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October 20, 2023, 11:52:44 PM
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I will answer you as a citizen of Ukraine who saw all this with my own eyes. The problem is that this is not some kind of “local, small dispute between two countries” where it would really be reasonable to find a compromise solution. Russia came to DESTROY us. Completely destroy. And as Golda Meir said: You cannot negotiate with someone who has come to kill you.
This is reality - a maniac whose goal is to kill you will not negotiate with you, because... His goal is not agreement, but your destruction. This is exactly what the situation looks like in Ukraine. For one thing, I highly recommend listening to Russian state news channels - there is the wildest mixture of Nazism, xenophobia, misanthropy, denial of rights, ... RASHIZM (Russian Nazism) is worse than the brown plague of Nazism! Therefore, Russia itself, with its policies and openly stated goals, left us no choice.

If we compare Israeli-Palestinian conflict with Russo-Ukrainian war, Israel has been so much more brutal and merciless so far. Did Putin cover-bomb the sh*t out of Ukraine? No. Did he deliberately target densely-populated residential areas? Not really. Israel doesn't give a damn about hostages! Some of them have already been killed in airstrikes. Did Russians cut off water, internet, electricity, gas supply to Ukraine? Nope.

Right now Israel is pulling heavy tanks and other armored vehicles to the Palestinian border. They offered 24 hours for the civilians to flee the area. Seriously? Over a million people in 24h?   Shocked   

Israel has chosen the most effective method of fighting terrorists - their total destruction. And this should have been done with Russia, but unfortunately our forces are not equal.
But all the same - rashism will also be destroyed!

Regarding what Putin and Russian citizens did in Ukraine: Entire large cities and hundreds of small towns and villages were destroyed, hundreds of thousands of civilians, peaceful cities were destroyed by brutal bombing, autumn 2022 - attempts to destroy the energy infrastructure of Ukraine, destruction of the heating system in winter, explosion Hydroelectric power stations, torture, kidnappings of children, constant shelling of peaceful cities with both missiles and UAVs.... This is pure terrorism + Nazism. And this evil is called - RACHISM! And only after the destruction of the center of world terrorism will the world economy be able to return to stability and development.

Then why in the world they're attacking peaceful residents of Gaza? Destroy the terrorists, not hospitals and nurseries.

Then I stopped reading your post, because a bit fat chunk of propaganda follows... "Entire large cities and hundreds of small towns and villages were destroyed" please name at least a single "large city" "destroyed" by Russia.  Grin
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October 21, 2023, 02:51:42 AM
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I will answer you as a citizen of Ukraine who saw all this with my own eyes. The problem is that this is not some kind of “local, small dispute between two countries” where it would really be reasonable to find a compromise solution. Russia came to DESTROY us. Completely destroy. And as Golda Meir said: You cannot negotiate with someone who has come to kill you.
This is reality - a maniac whose goal is to kill you will not negotiate with you, because... His goal is not agreement, but your destruction. This is exactly what the situation looks like in Ukraine. For one thing, I highly recommend listening to Russian state news channels - there is the wildest mixture of Nazism, xenophobia, misanthropy, denial of rights, ... RASHIZM (Russian Nazism) is worse than the brown plague of Nazism! Therefore, Russia itself, with its policies and openly stated goals, left us no choice.

If we compare Israeli-Palestinian conflict with Russo-Ukrainian war, Israel has been so much more brutal and merciless so far. Did Putin cover-bomb the sh*t out of Ukraine? No. Did he deliberately target densely-populated residential areas? Not really. Israel doesn't give a damn about hostages! Some of them have already been killed in airstrikes. Did Russians cut off water, internet, electricity, gas supply to Ukraine? Nope.

Right now Israel is pulling heavy tanks and other armored vehicles to the Palestinian border. They offered 24 hours for the civilians to flee the area. Seriously? Over a million people in 24h?   Shocked   

Israel has chosen the most effective method of fighting terrorists - their total destruction. And this should have been done with Russia, but unfortunately our forces are not equal.
But all the same - rashism will also be destroyed!

Regarding what Putin and Russian citizens did in Ukraine: Entire large cities and hundreds of small towns and villages were destroyed, hundreds of thousands of civilians, peaceful cities were destroyed by brutal bombing, autumn 2022 - attempts to destroy the energy infrastructure of Ukraine, destruction of the heating system in winter, explosion Hydroelectric power stations, torture, kidnappings of children, constant shelling of peaceful cities with both missiles and UAVs.... This is pure terrorism + Nazism. And this evil is called - RACHISM! And only after the destruction of the center of world terrorism will the world economy be able to return to stability and development.

Then why in the world they're attacking peaceful residents of Gaza? Destroy the terrorists, not hospitals and nurseries.

Then I stopped reading your post, because a bit fat chunk of propaganda follows... "Entire large cities and hundreds of small towns and villages were destroyed" please name at least a single "large city" "destroyed" by Russia.  Grin

After bombing a hospital in Gaza and an estimated death toll of around 700 civilians. The Israeli army continues to attack a hundred-year-old Christian church that shelters 500 civilians. Is that what they call anti-terrorism? Are all Palestinians terrorists? What is confusing is that many people cannot even distinguish between terrorists and civilians but always say that terrorists must be fought. What is happening in Palestine is terrible, the Israeli army is no different from brutal fascists and imperialists.

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October 21, 2023, 10:01:48 AM
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I will answer you as a citizen of Ukraine who saw all this with my own eyes. The problem is that this is not some kind of “local, small dispute between two countries” where it would really be reasonable to find a compromise solution. Russia came to DESTROY us. Completely destroy. And as Golda Meir said: You cannot negotiate with someone who has come to kill you.
This is reality - a maniac whose goal is to kill you will not negotiate with you, because... His goal is not agreement, but your destruction. This is exactly what the situation looks like in Ukraine. For one thing, I highly recommend listening to Russian state news channels - there is the wildest mixture of Nazism, xenophobia, misanthropy, denial of rights, ... RASHIZM (Russian Nazism) is worse than the brown plague of Nazism! Therefore, Russia itself, with its policies and openly stated goals, left us no choice.

If we compare Israeli-Palestinian conflict with Russo-Ukrainian war, Israel has been so much more brutal and merciless so far. Did Putin cover-bomb the sh*t out of Ukraine? No. Did he deliberately target densely-populated residential areas? Not really. Israel doesn't give a damn about hostages! Some of them have already been killed in airstrikes. Did Russians cut off water, internet, electricity, gas supply to Ukraine? Nope.

Right now Israel is pulling heavy tanks and other armored vehicles to the Palestinian border. They offered 24 hours for the civilians to flee the area. Seriously? Over a million people in 24h?   Shocked    

Israel has chosen the most effective method of fighting terrorists - their total destruction. And this should have been done with Russia, but unfortunately our forces are not equal.
But all the same - rashism will also be destroyed!

Regarding what Putin and Russian citizens did in Ukraine: Entire large cities and hundreds of small towns and villages were destroyed, hundreds of thousands of civilians, peaceful cities were destroyed by brutal bombing, autumn 2022 - attempts to destroy the energy infrastructure of Ukraine, destruction of the heating system in winter, explosion Hydroelectric power stations, torture, kidnappings of children, constant shelling of peaceful cities with both missiles and UAVs.... This is pure terrorism + Nazism. And this evil is called - RACHISM! And only after the destruction of the center of world terrorism will the world economy be able to return to stability and development.

Then why in the world they're attacking peaceful residents of Gaza? Destroy the terrorists, not hospitals and nurseries.

Then I stopped reading your post, because a bit fat chunk of propaganda follows... "Entire large cities and hundreds of small towns and villages were destroyed" please name at least a single "large city" "destroyed" by Russia.  Grin

Typical behavior of a Russian propaganda carrier...

Okay, I'll give you some training too.
Mariupol. More than 70,000 civilian corpses were found in the city morgues after the Russian attacks. But we know that Russian occupants in other cities organized mass executions of civilians and then tried to hide the traces of crimes, so the real number of destroyed civilians is unknown. The city itself is completely destroyed by more than 50%, and 95% of the city was destroyed by bombings and shootings.
Marinka. There is simply no city left. Earlier there lived more than 10.000 population.
Bakhmut. The city is completely destroyed, the city, before the Russian terrorist attack, was inhabited by more than 75,000 people.
Volnovakha, Izium, Popasnaya, Rubizhne, Severodonetsk, Brovary, Irpin, ..... it could go on for a very long time...
But you will deny everything. You will smirk and with sadistic pleasure tell some delusional tales "the U.S. and the Banderites are to blame for everything" What is the point of proving anything to you?
But the good thing is that you and your kind will no longer be able to promote the Russian narratives "it's an internal conflict in Ukraine", "Russia has nothing to do with it" and will not be able to hide the wildest crimes of Rashism !

What Russia with the Rashist ideology has arranged in Ukraine is already recognized as genocide. The same genocide, which the Kremlin for the last 80 years, organized against the inhabitants of Poland, Finland, Ichkeria, Georgia, Moldova and many other countries. But the time will come and the bearers of this ideology will be punished for their crimes. And then there will be no more sadistic smirks of sadists.....  

https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2023/09/26/oon-nachala-rassledovanie-protiv-rossiiskih-gospropagandistov-po-obvineniyam-v-podstrekatelstve-k-genotsidu-a108038


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- Hamas's militant wing, the al-Qassam Brigades, moved its Web site to Russian hosting days after a series of attacks on Israel. This was reported by the Insikt Group, the threat research arm of Recorded Future, a private intelligence company.
Where will the terrorists go? Only to their terrorist brethren.

- The part of the Russian population that does not support President Vladimir Putin should be isolated or destroyed, Duma deputy Andrei Gurulev said on the Rossiya-1 TV channel.
According to the idea of Gurulev, a unanimous Democrat and member of the lower house defense committee, about 20 percent of Russian citizens could be subject to "annihilation." That's about 29 million people, according to Rosstat, which estimates the country's permanent population at 146.4 million.
I would add here that the figures are overstated. Russia has no more than 100 million people. And that was ...

- Russia has offered 32 million hectares of Siberia for grain for China. Putin, going to his master Xi, decided to give him a gift - the land of Russia Smiley Thus begins the sellout of russia. And also "returning china's historical lands to its native harbor"  Grin Grin Grin

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October 21, 2023, 06:30:44 PM
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Okay, I'll give you some training too.
Mariupol. More than 70,000 civilian corpses were found in the city morgues after the Russian attacks. But we know that Russian occupants in other cities organized mass executions of civilians and then tried to hide the traces of crimes, so the real number of destroyed civilians is unknown. The city itself is completely destroyed by more than 50%, and 95% of the city was destroyed by bombings and shootings.
Marinka. There is simply no city left. Earlier there lived more than 10.000 population.
Bakhmut. The city is completely destroyed, the city, before the Russian terrorist attack, was inhabited by more than 75,000 people.
Volnovakha, Izium, Popasnaya, Rubizhne, Severodonetsk, Brovary, Irpin, ..... it could go on for a very long time...
Your posts are getting more and more idiotic each day...   Grin Grin Grin

Firstly, 70k is more than entire civilian death toll in all of Ukraine from the start of the war:

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From 24 February 2022, when the Russian Federation’s armed attack against Ukraine started, to 29 January 2023, the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) recorded 18,657 civilian casualties in the country: 7,110 killed and 11,547 injured.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2023/01/ukraine-civilian-casualty-update-30-january-2023

Next, I presume the AFU is the most effective army in the world? We already know they have 0 casualties, but according to you it seems they never hit a single civilian by mistake? AFU have magic bullets which kill exclusively Russian soldiers?  Grin  They never place artillery systems in residential neighborhoods and never use civilians as a cover? The "warriors of light" use anti-aircraft systems so precisely, that they only take down Russian missiles, drones and planes, debris and parts never hit the residential buildings - they fall on the ground only in uninhabited locations.  Grin Grin Grin

I'm sure such brainless trolls like you actually believe this propaganda crap. Israel killed more civilians in several days than Russia in 1.5 years!  

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But the good thing is that you and your kind will no longer be able to promote the Russian narratives "it's an internal conflict in Ukraine", "Russia has nothing to do with it" and will not be able to hide the wildest crimes of Rashism !
Not sure what you're talking about here. Some complete paranoid nonsense!  Grin

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What Russia with the Rashist ideology has arranged in Ukraine is already recognized as genocide. The same genocide, which the Kremlin for the last 80 years, organized against the inhabitants of Poland, Finland, Ichkeria, Georgia, Moldova and many other countries. But the time will come and the bearers of this ideology will be punished for their crimes. And then there will be no more sadistic smirks of sadists.....  
Not true. Google what genocide is.
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the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group:
You're too retarded to understand this. Big % Russians live in Eastern Ukraine and many also serve in AFU. So it's more like pro-Western Russians vs pro-Russia Russians. So it's in fact genocide of Russians sponsored by the US.

Btw, Ichkeria is not a country, it's a part of Russia.

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- Russia has offered 32 million hectares of Siberia for grain for China. Putin, going to his master Xi, decided to give him a gift - the land of Russia Smiley Thus begins the sellout of russia. And also "returning china's historical lands to its native harbor"  Grin Grin Grin
It's funny how a brainless troll can turn positive news into negative. It's actually Russia signing grain deal with China. 32 million hectares is a real number from real news but used by a troll in a wrong context. So a major grain deal had been signed between Russia and China:

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China and Russia are strengthening their partnership in food and energy, as both countries face mounting challenges amid tensions with the West, according to announcements made at recent forums in Beijing.

The two nations have signed a nearly 2.5-trillion-rouble (US$25.8 billion) grain-supply contract, the biggest in their food-trade history, under the Belt and Road Initiative, a Russian insider was quoted as saying by the TASS news agency on Wednesday during the third Belt and Road Forum.

Russia, which has been seeking more cooperation in Eurasia amid Western sanctions resulting from its invasion of Ukraine, is selling 70 million tonnes of grain, legumes, and oilseeds to its southern neighbour, according to Karen Ovsepyan, who leads the New Land Grain Corridor, a logistics hub being built in Russia's Ural Mountains, Siberia and its far east region to facilitate China-Russia trade.

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/money/other/china-and-russia-supercharge-trade-with-record-grain-order-bolstering-food-and-energy-security-as-western-pressure-persists/ar-AA1iz3If
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October 21, 2023, 06:55:09 PM
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3. War affects the stock market by causing a decline in stock prices.

What do you guys think? Is this true or false?
Let me give you a little shocker. There is a small exception to this . Not all stocks decline. See this news report from CNN some days ago about the Israel Palestine conflict and the stocks from these companies. So those who have invested in these stocks re cashing out right now. I don't like it because it seems like thet are supporting the conflict through their stock investment but then again what can they do.

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The iShares U.S. Aerospace & Defense ETF, which tracks companies including Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, General Dynamics and Northrop Grumman, has surged by about 7% since the initial attacks on Israel earlier this month.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/18/investing/premarket-stocks-trading/index.html#:~:text=The%20iShares%20U.S.%20Aerospace%20%26%20Defense,on%20Israel%20earlier%20this%20month.

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October 22, 2023, 12:41:05 PM
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Okay, I'll give you some training too.
Mariupol. More than 70,000 civilian corpses were found in the city morgues after the Russian attacks. But we know that Russian occupants in other cities organized mass executions of civilians and then tried to hide the traces of crimes, so the real number of destroyed civilians is unknown. The city itself is completely destroyed by more than 50%, and 95% of the city was destroyed by bombings and shootings.
Marinka. There is simply no city left. Earlier there lived more than 10.000 population.
Bakhmut. The city is completely destroyed, the city, before the Russian terrorist attack, was inhabited by more than 75,000 people.
Volnovakha, Izium, Popasnaya, Rubizhne, Severodonetsk, Brovary, Irpin, ..... it could go on for a very long time...
Your posts are getting more and more idiotic each day...   Grin Grin Grin

Firstly, 70k is more than entire civilian death toll in all of Ukraine from the start of the war:

I understand that Nazism, especially such a yardstick variety as RASHISM, has one concept - lie, lie, lie and lie again. Lie everywhere and always. And deny all the facts.
I will not continue this topic with you, you are behaving extremely disgustingly towards dead, peaceful, innocent people. This is called “dancing on bones” and denouncing crimes, trying to reduce the real tragedy.
I hope that sooner or later this will be rewarded to you, and you will know what the “boomerang of fate” is...
I apologize to all participants in this thread, but this is disgusting to read and listen to... This is the face of RASHISM and the “Russian world” - to kill, destroy... and then lie and deny, with a vile grin...

PS According to the Ilyichevsk morgue, 87 thousand deaths were documented in Mariupol.
There is also a database of unidentified people. Unidentified bodies of civilians are in mass graves. According to the latest data, there were about 26 thousand such people. There is a database on them in the Novoazovsky Prosecutor's Office.
However, even these figures are not final, because there are still bodies in the courtyards and under the rubble, and some of the dead were taken out by the occupiers and buried in unknown graves.

Only in the Mariupol Drama Theater, where civilians were hiding from the terrible bombing with FAB-500 bombs, at least 600 civilians died under the ruins. It will most likely not be possible to find out the exact number of victims. The Russian occupiers then simply brought in excavators, loaded the remains of the destroyed building mixed with body parts and took them away for a hidden burial so that no one would know the scale of this massacre....

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October 22, 2023, 05:05:47 PM
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Should we assume that war is a means of replenishment to delapidated economic performance all over the world or not, if we consider the past event of the experience in war, the cost of lives and the rate of amounts worth countless rates being lost at the cause together with the innocent souls being affected, we can see that war is not the perfect economical solution, but people are, if we can start the beginning of the change in us right from our individual behaviors in the society.

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October 23, 2023, 12:39:25 PM
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After bombing a hospital in Gaza and an estimated death toll of around 700 civilians. The Israeli army continues to attack a hundred-year-old Christian church that shelters 500 civilians. Is that what they call anti-terrorism? Are all Palestinians terrorists? What is confusing is that many people cannot even distinguish between terrorists and civilians but always say that terrorists must be fought. What is happening in Palestine is terrible, the Israeli army is no different from brutal fascists and imperialists.
It's absolutely terrible. Civilians are never in favor of war, they don't even want their own country to initiate wars unless they see that another country is invading and taking away all their civil rights and is killing innocent people and destroying the country without any reason, that is when maybe civilians start to think or say that their country should at least take a stand instead of just seeing such cruelty happening within the country and to their people.

A country that kills innocent civilians and then calls them terrorists is wrong, even if there are some terrorists residing within that country, that doesn't make it right for them to bomb the whole country, kill thousands of people just for maybe a few that they consider terrorists, that is not how things should be done and everyone should condemn such acts of cruelty.
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October 23, 2023, 01:28:04 PM
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You also forgot about the most important factor in an economy and a war: Manpower. When a large-scale war happens, people who are supposed to work in the production are instead pooled into military service to better give their country chances at winning the war. Thus the decline in stock prices and the ensuing economic collapse that happens right after the war. Not to mention the fact that most war veterans can't go back to work so it's not like they are given the job security they are hoping for.

War is never a good thing, the only ones who benefit from this are the arms dealers and those who resell war machines after the fact. No one, not even the rich are exempt when a threat of global conflict occurs.

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October 23, 2023, 02:23:01 PM
 #150

You also forgot about the most important factor in an economy and a war: Manpower. When a large-scale war happens, people who are supposed to work in the production are instead pooled into military service to better give their country chances at winning the war. Thus the decline in stock prices and the ensuing economic collapse that happens right after the war. Not to mention the fact that most war veterans can't go back to work so it's not like they are given the job security they are hoping for.

War is never a good thing, the only ones who benefit from this are the arms dealers and those who resell war machines after the fact. No one, not even the rich are exempt when a threat of global conflict occurs.
Manpower getting affected by war directly hits the economy through the product cut. When the required production cut takes place, automatically the demand rises and the same reflect on the pricing. Another thing, when war happens between two countries the transportation gets affected. This doesn't affect the specific countries involved in war, but it affects the rest of the world. This also have its effect over the pricing of essential services.

With most of the war, the war machine suppliers used to be the first world country. This means they get affected in one way through the economy getting disturbed, but through the other way they get an income. This is kind of mutually compensated.
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October 23, 2023, 05:56:09 PM
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You also forgot about the most important factor in an economy and a war: Manpower. When a large-scale war happens, people who are supposed to work in the production are instead pooled into military service to better give their country chances at winning the war. Thus the decline in stock prices and the ensuing economic collapse that happens right after the war. Not to mention the fact that most war veterans can't go back to work so it's not like they are given the job security they are hoping for.

What is clear is that this will definitely happen if war between countries will have a negative impact on the economy and health. Apart from veterans, if they win a war, this will also result in industry in the country not functioning because it is vulnerable to poor security conditions. In the end, many people do not work and do not earn money to meet their living needs.

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War is never a good thing, the only ones who benefit from this are the arms dealers and those who resell war machines after the fact. No one, not even the rich are exempt when a threat of global conflict occurs.

Sometimes I suspect that every time there is a war between countries, there must be a third party who deliberately causes the war to happen so that the arms trading countries gain profits from the war. Because it is impossible for a business to exist without buyers.

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October 25, 2023, 05:51:47 PM
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Okay, I'll give you some training too.
Mariupol. More than 70,000 civilian corpses were found in the city morgues after the Russian attacks. But we know that Russian occupants in other cities organized mass executions of civilians and then tried to hide the traces of crimes, so the real number of destroyed civilians is unknown. The city itself is completely destroyed by more than 50%, and 95% of the city was destroyed by bombings and shootings.
Marinka. There is simply no city left. Earlier there lived more than 10.000 population.
Bakhmut. The city is completely destroyed, the city, before the Russian terrorist attack, was inhabited by more than 75,000 people.
Volnovakha, Izium, Popasnaya, Rubizhne, Severodonetsk, Brovary, Irpin, ..... it could go on for a very long time...
Your posts are getting more and more idiotic each day...   Grin Grin Grin

Firstly, 70k is more than entire civilian death toll in all of Ukraine from the start of the war:

I understand that Nazism, especially such a yardstick variety as RASHISM, has one concept - lie, lie, lie and lie again. Lie everywhere and always. And deny all the facts.
I will not continue this topic with you, you are behaving extremely disgustingly towards dead, peaceful, innocent people. This is called “dancing on bones” and denouncing crimes, trying to reduce the real tragedy.
I hope that sooner or later this will be rewarded to you, and you will know what the “boomerang of fate” is...
I apologize to all participants in this thread, but this is disgusting to read and listen to... This is the face of RASHISM and the “Russian world” - to kill, destroy... and then lie and deny, with a vile grin...
They only liar here is you! You keep spreading false and misleading information without even trying to provide sources. You also keep ignoring facts provided by me which are always backed by valid sources from reputable Western media. I hope you realize you look like a complete bozo. Credibility of your posts is zero.   Grin

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PS According to the Ilyichevsk morgue, 87 thousand deaths were documented in Mariupol.
There is also a database of unidentified people. Unidentified bodies of civilians are in mass graves. According to the latest data, there were about 26 thousand such people. There is a database on them in the Novoazovsky Prosecutor's Office.
However, even these figures are not final, because there are still bodies in the courtyards and under the rubble, and some of the dead were taken out by the occupiers and buried in unknown graves.
Oh yeah, the world-famous Ilyichevsk morgue the most reputable source... who haven't heard of Ilyichevsk morgue?  Grin Grin Grin

87k dead in Mariupol could be true, but 87k AFU soldiers. As to the stats on civilian deaths see my source above.  Cool

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Only in the Mariupol Drama Theater, where civilians were hiding from the terrible bombing with FAB-500 bombs, at least 600 civilians died under the ruins. It will most likely not be possible to find out the exact number of victims. The Russian occupiers then simply brought in excavators, loaded the remains of the destroyed building mixed with body parts and took them away for a hidden burial so that no one would know the scale of this massacre....

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On 16 March 2022, during the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Russian Armed Forces[1][3] bombed the Donetsk Academic Regional Drama Theatre in Mariupol, Ukraine. It was used as an air raid shelter during the siege of Mariupol, sheltering a large number of civilians. The estimations of the number of deaths that occurred due to the bombing have varied, from at least 12[1] (Amnesty International) to 600 (Associated Press).

and then there's this:

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Russia denied the allegations and instead accused the Azov Battalion of blowing up the building

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariupol_theatre_airstrike

So it's actually your choice whom to believe.  Cool
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October 25, 2023, 06:31:19 PM
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War is never a good thing, the only ones who benefit from this are the arms dealers and those who resell war machines after the fact. No one, not even the rich are exempt when a threat of global conflict occurs.
Certainly 100% true. War means loss. Maybe those who know how to make good use of technology or those who are in a strong financial position are relatively less harmed in war, but it is sure to be harmed by both parties. However, the war that is being practiced in worldwide is definitely not a good sign. All the powerful countries here want to keep their power over other countries. When there is no agreement between the two then the war starts. Wherever war is consisted, it has more or less impact on the people of the world, directly or indirectly. Therefore, instead of supporting war, any conflict should be resolved through reconciliation. If war is seen as a tool to sell arms then surely those countries will lose everything at one stage.

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1. Increase in the national GDP is least likely to be caused by a war.
Kind of don't agree...

2. Oil is considered the most crucial resource in modern warfare.
Not sure if they are correlated but we have seen/read of   a few cases that has lead to war all because of minerals like gold, diamonds and in some cases all because of territory like we have see in the current Russia Ukraine war. Don't get me wrong, oil is another primary reason for war!!

3. War affects the stock market by causing a decline in stock prices.

What do you guys think? Is this true or false?
Stock market can be affected if the markets it supplies goods to one of these countries is caught in crossfire and because of the war can nolonger supply them as this market is closed then expect a red market.

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October 26, 2023, 04:40:00 AM
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War is never a good thing, the only ones who benefit from this are the arms dealers and those who resell war machines after the fact. No one, not even the rich are exempt when a threat of global conflict occurs.
Certainly 100% true. War means loss. Maybe those who know how to make good use of technology or those who are in a strong financial position are relatively less harmed in war, but it is sure to be harmed by both parties. However, the war that is being practiced in worldwide is definitely not a good sign. All the powerful countries here want to keep their power over other countries. When there is no agreement between the two then the war starts. Wherever war is consisted, it has more or less impact on the people of the world, directly or indirectly. Therefore, instead of supporting war, any conflict should be resolved through reconciliation. If war is seen as a tool to sell arms then surely those countries will lose everything at one stage.

War only brings losses to the participating nations and soldiers, while arms dealers receive the spoils unscathed. Therefore, war is the loss of innocent people, not the loss of some other people who create war for profit.

No one supports war except arms dealers and those who crave power. The ongoing wars are due to a struggle for power, so I think there will be no reconciliation if no country gives in first to reduce tensions.

By the way, I noticed that the countries that get rich through arms trade are mostly great powers and they are becoming stronger instead of losing everything like you said.

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October 26, 2023, 05:10:48 AM
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Wars doesnt harm every country. i think some of the country gets benefited because of it.

If you are talking in terms of power and money, you may be right, but in terms of ethics and human rights I don't think it benefits anyone.

And, as we've seen with Covid-19, globalization has broken the natural boundaries that always existed between countries/continents, so nowadays any war impacts every country in some degree. I don't know where you live, but chances are that you have witnessed it yourself the last time you went to a supermarket.

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October 26, 2023, 07:30:01 AM
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Wars doesnt harm every country. i think some of the country gets benefited because of it.

If you are talking in terms of power and money, you may be right, but in terms of ethics and human rights I don't think it benefits anyone.
War only benefited the industries that were responsible for global arms production. I am of the opinion that they have a big say in the war, and they might even lobby for a war in a particular region because, for them, war means business. Just take the example of the Russia-Ukraine war and the ammunition provided to both countries. These arms dealers are getting rich at the expense of human lives.

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And, as we've seen with Covid-19, globalization has broken the natural boundaries that always existed between countries/continents, so nowadays any war impacts every country in some degree. I don't know where you live, but chances are that you have witnessed it yourself the last time you went to a supermarket.

The war can only impact the World if it is between the two major countries. Wars are going on in Africa frequently, but they are not impacting the global economy; on the other hand, the war between Russia and Ukraine did impact every nation and the global economy.
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October 26, 2023, 05:16:09 PM
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In my opinion a war of between two countries can make economical problem of other country. War make a nation ill damage their economical condition. A country suffer a lot because of war. Not that country who has connect with it every country of the world suffer a lot because of the war. Not every Nation make everything there depend of the other national for those what they can make. Because of war there is shortest up that goods or item in the market. Because of the shortest supply of this item in the market the price of the items high. Because of war not the price increase of item sometimes oil gold etc price is too high. Because of increasing price of item or some other components are commodities the people of lower income suffer a lot because of increasing price. In every country there is huge amount of people who live under the provety line because of the price hike and mainly war is the reason of the price high that's the reason why impact on the global economy.
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October 27, 2023, 10:18:19 AM
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In my opinion a war of between two countries can make economical problem of other country. War make a nation ill damage their economical condition. A country suffer a lot because of war. Not that country who has connect with it every country of the world suffer a lot because of the war. Not every Nation make everything there depend of the other national for those what they can make. Because of war there is shortest up that goods or item in the market. Because of the shortest supply of this item in the market the price of the items high. Because of war not the price increase of item sometimes oil gold etc price is too high. Because of increasing price of item or some other components are commodities the people of lower income suffer a lot because of increasing price. In every country there is huge amount of people who live under the provety line because of the price hike and mainly war is the reason of the price high that's the reason why impact on the global economy.

The problem is that what is happening in the modern world, in our time, is not a "war between two countries". It is a war of the "axis of evil" against humanity, civilization, legality, and rules. This war is causing problems all over the world, although it seems to be very localized conflicts. Unfortunately, the world has played the game of loyalty and "let's negotiate," and this has allowed the hydra of terrorism, Nazism, and other anti-human concepts to grow stronger and claim their right to peace. And now we see for example Hamas terrorists uniting with the terrorist-Nazis of RASHISM, supported by other totalitarian anti-human regimes and groups. They do not want a free, developing world where there is a concept of legality. They need chaos, war, violence. They bring global destruction, death, total lies, propaganda of violence and misanthropy. They can make money only on grief and destruction, their audience is uneducated, poor people who do not see prospects and do not know what it is to live as a human being, stupefied by propaganda, and denying universal values

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October 28, 2023, 12:35:24 PM
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As we all know, war is never a good approach to conflict resolution, we see this menace continually occurring, where countries raise against countries because of either dominance or personal reasons, when there is war, so many business activities are being crippled and some commodities are temporary scarce, and this portrays a high-level demand in such commodity, the nations in one are been sanctioned as the case may be, the most nation that does business with them are being kept in jeopardy, the impact of war to the global economy is very enormous. 

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