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June 30, 2024, 02:29:55 PM
Last edit: June 30, 2024, 04:59:39 PM by Argoo
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 Ukraine has hit a beach in Sevastopol killing and injuring hundreds, including many kids.

In the case of the death of civilians on the beach of Sevastopol, one more important point should be taken into account. International law, it turns out, does not protect Russian civilians if they are in the occupied territory of Ukraine - in Crimea, Donbass or in other Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine.

The only document protecting the rights of citizens during war is the Geneva Convention of 1949, which also regulates the protection of citizens in occupied territories. According to this convention, citizens of all countries except the aggressor country are protected. That is, Russian citizens are not protected by international conventions while in Crimea.

This is why the Ukrainian army has the right to destroy Russian civilians in Crimea without taking into account their interests. For example, if there are 100 Russian citizens and one military man on the beach, the Ukrainian military has the right to launch missile attacks there.

Ukraine has long warned Russian citizens not to come to the occupied territory of Ukraine, because fighting is taking place almost everywhere there. If Russia encourages their arrival, then it is Russia that is responsible for their safety and their death from hostilities.


What a fucking nazi pig you are! I hope you understand you're trying to justify the killing of civilians including kids?

You are mentioning some laws and conventions but is there any war going on de jure? Did Russia declare war on Ukraine? No. Did Ukraine declare war on Russia? Again no. So why do you mention these conventions which are only effective during war?

Many people who live in Crimea are actually Ukrainian citizens or ex-Ukrainian citizens who decided to accept Russian citizenship only recently. Which makes this merciless attack even more horrific.

By the way, why are you still here? Your compatriots are dying in trenches and you're shitposting from the safety of your home?  Grin
I explained the legal aspects of the presence of Russian citizens in the occupied territories of Ukraine and do not at all justify their murder. But Russia should think about this first of all, calling on its citizens to go on vacation to the occupied Crimea, where the fighting is taking place. The Kremlin understands this very well. Therefore, Putin has not yet commented on the death of Russian civilians in the occupied territories, including in Crimea, precisely because he realizes that their death lies entirely with the political leadership of Russia, which started the war.

And regarding the fact that even Russian Z-patriots admit that Russian air defense was to blame for the incident on the beach of Sevastopol, which shot down a missile over the beach of Sevastopol, even former State Duma deputy Viktor Alksnis said in an interview with the propaganda resource “Stalingrad”.
https://www.dialog.ua/war/297622_1719746229

If Russia has not officially declared war on Ukraine, abandoning its armies to capture Ukraine, this does not mean that there is no war. The very fact of a massive military invasion and the start of hostilities already means war and does not require any additional acts. UN documents do not contain the term “declaration of war” at all.

Ukraine does not declare war on Russia for the reason that, from the point of view of international law, a state that declares war is an aggressor, even if it is the victim of an attack. That is, if Ukraine declares war on Russia, it will turn out that Ukraine will become an aggressor.
https://24tv.ua/ru/pochemu-ukraina-do-sih-por-ne-objavila-vojnu-objasnil-pervyj-genprokuror-24-kanal_n2475427

Aren’t you at all concerned that the Russian occupiers fire every day from all types of weapons at the front-line settlements of Ukraine, including every day striking with spotting bombs weighing from half a ton to three tons, and at the same time killing civilians in Ukraine every day? Are you not at all concerned that every day Russia is now striking the same bombs and missiles at the city of one million Kharkov, which happens to be closest to the Russian border and which Putin’s Russia is now trying to turn into ruins and a ghost town? For some reason, Russia actually screamed when four civilians were killed on the beach due to the negligence of Russian air defense and even initiated consideration of this issue at the UN.

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June 30, 2024, 05:48:07 PM
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1. Increase in the national GDP is least likely to be caused by a war.
2. Oil is considered the most crucial resource in modern warfare.
3. War affects the stock market by causing a decline in stock prices.

What do you guys think? Is this true or false?
I think war is a bad thing as war destroys any country. If a war breaks out in a country then the GDP will never increase in that country but will decrease. War has a detrimental effect on the citizens of that country even on the economy of that country.

We can mention the war between Ukraine and Russia as a small example of this. Ukraine has suffered so much due to the war between Russia and Ukraine that we have seen one of our forum members asking for donations here to help with ambulances in Ukrainian hospitals and help the people of that country. Maybe because of the war in Ukraine, their economic situation, GDP has suffered greatly and their capital market has also suffered. Which has an impact on the citizens of their country. In war-torn countries, poor citizens suffer the most.
Forget the GDP even and just a take good look at Palestine for example and to be specific @Gaza, the whole city has been leveled to the ground and there is absolutely nothing you can take out of that place and that is what we call the full effect of war. The whole Gaza is facing infrastructure and human decline just because of the toll of Israeli war on that zone and that's why no matter the cause war is never the answer or solution.

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July 03, 2024, 07:01:11 AM
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Forget about Crimea. It is no longer Ukrainian and will never be one. Russia has annexed it and according to their laws it's their territory, which essentially means that Russia has a right to use nuclear weapons in case there is an assault on Crimea. It's all over, let go.

Now the Ukrainian Armed Forces almost daily strikes at Russian military targets on the territory of the temporarily occupied Crimean peninsula. First of all, expensive Russian air defense systems, command posts, communications facilities, military airfields and everything else that support the war in Ukraine are being actively destroyed. Strikes are also carried out with various fire weapons on Russian territory, up to a thousand kilometers deep into Russia. And where then is the promised nuclear strike?

Russia was very worried that Ukraine would become a member of NATO and that US military bases would  be located on its territory. The attack on Ukraine led to Sweden and Finland quickly becoming members of NATO and Russia gaining a border of more than 1,200 kilometers with NATO member Finland.

Moreover, on July 1, the Finnish Parliament unanimously approved the Defense Cooperation Agreement between Finland and the United States. Under the treaty, which sets the stage for U.S. activities and a more permanent presence in Finland, the country will open 15 military bases for potential use by U.S. troops. The United States will also receive permission to import defense equipment, equipment, materials and soldiers into Finland. In addition, the agreement provides for the creation of certain military zones, which will include facilities to which only American personnel will have access.
https://focus.ua/voennye-novosti/655424-parlament-finlyandii-odobril-oboronnoe-soglashenie-s-ssha-postroyat-15-voennyh-baz-na-granice-s-rf

Russia had also previously threatened Finland with consequences if it became a NATO member. So what's the result? Now the units of Russian troops near the border with Finland have decreased by about 80 percent, and accordingly, military equipment has disappeared. Everything is thrown into Ukraine, where Russia is suffering colossal losses. And US military bases near the border with Russia have ceased to be a threat to Russia. Everything goes according to plan.

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July 04, 2024, 05:46:46 AM
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Economiy is more important of the country and country people. Economiy will not gowth. Country not will be growth. If need to growth economy in country Frist people growth important. So improve the people growth. Then easy to improve the country and cuntery people.

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July 04, 2024, 12:53:03 PM
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1. Increase in the national GDP is least likely to be caused by a war.
2. Oil is considered the most crucial resource in modern warfare.
3. War affects the stock market by causing a decline in stock prices.

What do you guys think? Is this true or false?
The impact of the war has a negative impact not only on oil but on all exportable and importable products, due to which many important stocks have decreased in the world market due to which the prices of daily necessities have increased at a huge rate.
Currently, the war between Ukraine and Russia, the war between Israel and Palestine has a huge impact on the world, and in my country, the prices of all imported goods from Ukraine, Russia, Israel and Palestine have a huge impact.
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July 04, 2024, 05:34:31 PM
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When a war takes place between two countries, the impact of that war can be felt all over the world, even if the two countries are very powerful and rich in natural resources. Russia supplies most of the world's nuclear power plants with fuel, and most of the fuel, oil, and coal, along with other essential commodities, are supplied by Russia to various countries. When the war broke out between Russia and Ukraine, all the world's communication with Russia was cut off, which had a bad effect on the economy of all the countries. So war can never bring anything good for both countries including other countries of the world.

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July 06, 2024, 04:36:25 AM
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When a war takes place between two countries, the impact of that war can be felt all over the world, even if the two countries are very powerful and rich in natural resources. Russia supplies most of the world's nuclear power plants with fuel, and most of the fuel, oil, and coal, along with other essential commodities, are supplied by Russia to various countries. When the war broke out between Russia and Ukraine, all the world's communication with Russia was cut off, which had a bad effect on the economy of all the countries. So war can never bring anything good for both countries including other countries of the world.
The war in Ukraine began and has been supported by Russia for three years now, trying to seize the territory of Ukraine. The paradox is that the Russian Federation currently presides over the UN Security Council, while at the same time continuously and grossly violating the fundamental principles of this international organization, the creation of which was Ukraine. The double paradox is that no one has ever accepted the Russian Federation into the UN, and it is in the UN absolutely illegally, and even more so illegally occupies a seat on the UN Security Council. Ukraine has repeatedly drawn attention to this at the UN.

The Head of the UN General Assembly, Dennis Francis, recently drew attention to this. He stated that he had not seen a single document confirming that the Russian Federation legally occupies the seat of a permanent member of the UN Security Council with the right of veto.

He also noted that the organization constantly demands that Russia withdraw its troops from the territory of Ukraine, but it still ignores this legal demand.

https://inforesist.org/glava-genassamblei-oon-postavil-pod-somnenie-zakonnoe-chlenstvo-rossii-v-sovbeze/

https://24tv.ua/ru/vyvod-rossijskih-vojsk-iz-ukrainy-glava-genassamblei-oon-sdelal_n2590944

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July 06, 2024, 03:16:21 PM
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I'm positive that in modern times civilized society can stop aggression by applying only economic pressure on the aggressor country. Just economic pressure, but a harsh one. And they are not doing it.

Large and especially developed states have a large margin of safety in the economy and therefore the application of only economic sanctions to such states can have an effective impact only in the medium and long term. We can see this in the example of Russia, which was subjected to all kinds of economic sanctions for unleashing military aggression against Ukraine. In the third year of their application, these sanctions begin to have a disastrous effect on Russia, but only a few states are able to withstand the military power of the aggressor state for years.

Here it is necessary to take into account that with any aggression there will always be states that will support the aggressor to varying degrees, and there will also be various ways to circumvent sanctions, and eliminating them will take some additional time. Therefore, we need a new international body that would have the right to quickly deploy international rapid reaction troops into the aggressor country, since the UN has not been able to cope with its functions for a long time. Now, for example, the UN Security Council is chaired by the aggressor country of the Russian Federation, which can always veto any UN decision directed against it. It is necessary that the new international body has equal rights for states and that the aggressor state does not have the right to vote.

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