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September 28, 2023, 08:05:36 PM
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It's safe to say that there's no guarantee but if we're going to study the past when halving occurred, we can also conclude that there's really a rally after that happens.
Yes the tendency of having a Bitcoin price bull run after the halving is extremely high reasons being that the block sieze have been reduced and that will build up into scarcity and ultimate break out of new market height, so this is the reason that many always speculates and anticipate bull run after halving so you cant blame them for that.


But we are also already aware of the possibility of not having a bull run after the halving
The chances that there won't be a bull run after the halving is pretty low. And we're all just basing it on the history and how it happened in the past.

because there have been some cases when Bitcoin bull run comes before the Bitcoin halving so that is the volatility and the nature of Bitcoin no one can predict what the price will be, we can only speculates.
When was it? But yeah, no one can predict what exactly will happen.

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Anyway, it's just a safe approach and expectation to say that it is not guaranteed when the halving comes.
I may likely not get you point in this statement, what is not guarantee when the halving come in your statement ?


Do you mean the bull run?
If yes then i will say you are right but if you mean the exact timing for Bitcoin networks halving then that have an estimated time frame which will be between march and April 2024.
Yes, I was talking about the bull run and just as you've said no one can predict what can happen in the future, while I am optimistic about the bull run coming soon.

But it's better to have that two expectation, one is the bull run and the second is nothing.

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September 28, 2023, 08:15:49 PM
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I havent done so before but like a lot if others I will sell some Bitcoin to take profits
and buy back again when the markets correct.

I know there has been plenty of people doing this for the last halving and been able
to make gains.

I think the  key is to not try time the absolute top before the bear market.
Selling first and taking some profits when the market is bullish is a pretty good decision, depending on how the initial strategy is implemented.
Then buy when the market is corrected to get a cheaper price. You have to pay attention to whether the price is really below or not because there are many traps which in the end continue to be bearish. Therefore, also carry out financial management to buy in stages. Halving is a good opportunity to double profits. Of course buying regularly from now on can be said to be a good opportunity.
Buying regularly is also called accumulation in bitcoin (or investment) world and that is exactly the time to do that right now. I have been trying to accumulate since 40k and down, started my first buy at 40k, bought some at 15k as well and all the prices in between.

I had some other issues which emptied my investments a bit, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with anything, it is just not going to end up with anything that would be dangerous if we keep on accumulating right now. You can do that until halving easily, but if you really want to do more then you can try to do more as well. I believe that we are going to end up with something that would change it on the long run and not really end up anything else.

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September 28, 2023, 10:17:42 PM
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I havent done so before but like a lot if others I will sell some Bitcoin to take profits
and buy back again when the markets correct.

I know there has been plenty of people doing this for the last halving and been able
to make gains.

I think the  key is to not try time the absolute top before the bear market.
Selling first and taking some profits when the market is bullish is a pretty good decision, depending on how the initial strategy is implemented.
Then buy when the market is corrected to get a cheaper price. You have to pay attention to whether the price is really below or not because there are many traps which in the end continue to be bearish. Therefore, also carry out financial management to buy in stages. Halving is a good opportunity to double profits. Of course buying regularly from now on can be said to be a good opportunity.
Buying regularly is also called accumulation in bitcoin (or investment) world and that is exactly the time to do that right now. I have been trying to accumulate since 40k and down, started my first buy at 40k, bought some at 15k as well and all the prices in between.

I had some other issues which emptied my investments a bit, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with anything, it is just not going to end up with anything that would be dangerous if we keep on accumulating right now. You can do that until halving easily, but if you really want to do more then you can try to do more as well. I believe that we are going to end up with something that would change it on the long run and not really end up anything else.

Yeah, I think that should be the mindset, continue to accumulate as much as you can. Even at the start of the bull run, you can still do that and not think of stopping or selling you stash just before the bull run has started.

That's how I did the last time, specially that the block halving occured during the pandemic, and so you have nothing to do outside but instead focus on your crypto and build it as long as you can. Although we are done with pandemic already, but still it is a effective method to just continue regardless of what cycle we are. In short save and save for the the rainy days as you really don't know what the future holds.

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September 29, 2023, 08:05:57 AM
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The general assumption for so many bitcoiners is that the bull run is a time to sell and make a profit. There is nothing wrong with selling and making a profit but it is also important to have an after-the-bull run plan. The bull run shouldn't be the end of your Bitcoin investment, so there is no need to sell all your holdings.
Every bitcoin investor must have their own plan. Likewise with the bitcoin halving plan and the bullish market that will occur. Perhaps one of the plans of some bitcoin investors is the long-term plan you outlined and I admit it is indeed a very good plan. But even so I have a different plan to face the upcoming bull market. I personally prefer to sell all the bitcoin assets I own at the price I have determined. then after I make a profit from the sale, I will set aside my initial capital, to be used as capital to invest in bitcoin again. I will buy it again when the price of bitcoin has decreased.

Indeed, what I did was a bit risky, because as you explained, Bitcoin has the potential to continue to rise again. But if that happens, maybe it will be a risk that I have to bear. But even so, I have analysis and have confidence that after the bullish market is over the price of bitcoin will definitely fall again.

Conclusion :
It is principal to note that in as much as Bitcoin halving has the potential of creating a very conducive market structure for price increase, It is never a guarantee.
It is true that Bitcoin halving does not necessarily guarantee that the market will be bullish. Because this is just a cycle that has happened several times and has indeed made the price of bitcoin expensive. So basically everything that happened in the bull market after the bitcoin halving was just the habits of investors, but these habits included a large scale that was able to move the market price of bitcoin up drastically. So I think the chances of a repeat bull market will be very high. Because in the last few years, bitcoin users have increased in number. Given such facts, the possibility of an upcoming bull market becomes even greater.

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September 29, 2023, 11:05:05 AM
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We are certain that bitcoin halving will occur sometime around march or April 2024 but then also we are not certain if the bull market will occure within that same time frame and this is where you were right in you concluding statements about the possibilities of Bitcoin value increase and when ot will happen.


Although we can be cery sure that, Bitcoin price and value will increas because of the blockrewards reduction which is the primary aim of the Bitcoin halving.

There is no surety about the results of halving but if you have bitcoin and suddenly the price become so higher to reach the value above 100k$ then you can easily take advantage of it but if you don't have any bitcoin them during halving every other investors will he happy as they will get the reward but you will sorrow for your extra patience and little trust on bitcoin.

certainty comes when you spend at least four years as bitcoin holder because four year will be enough to point out inconsistent occasion which will be suitable for you to officially accept the market volatility and take knowledge from it. We all heard from experts about halving but what will be the set up after halving is not investigated so we hope that set up build according to our wishes.
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Market Speculation: During this seasons we see traders and investors try to take advantage of the price movement around Bitcoin halving. Since this often leads to high speculative activities their is always chances of price volatility occurrence.


Bitcoin halving event will definitely start next season. Various investors and traders will certainly benefit a lot when the Bitcoin market moves upwards at high speed in the new year. Moreover, investors are waiting for the time until the price of Bitcoin goes higher and a bull market is seen. Although the price of Bitcoin has not increased much at present, a bull market will be seen next year after the Bitcoin halving. But currently investors are buying a lot of Bitcoin and holding it for a long time due to volatility in the Bitcoin market. Investors aim to make a lot of money from their Bitcoin investment and we will definitely see that very soon when Bitcoin turns into a bull market.

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IMO, hoarding as much as you can will be the key ingredient to making more profits. We don't really know what could happen once the halving comes. There are pre-bull runs that could happen because of the fear of missing out. Then, there's a post-bull run because of the market fluctuation that could happen.
To my friends outside this forum, I always suggest to them to buy what they can afford. It doesn't need to be 1 Bitcoin. Just a fraction of it will suffice as long as they are doing it consistently with the money after savings. That means the residue of their salary instead of going to their bad habits, it could be invested in Bitcoin and just wait if they can make some once the bull comes.

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September 29, 2023, 02:43:29 PM
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Many people cycle trade btc.   They buy the dip and hold till they make 4x or better profit.

So if you grabbed coin at 15 or 16 k you may want to sell most of your coins at 69k and up.  Then buy at the next crash.

It's true what you say about what community investors do. The simple cycle they do is just like that; but, because everyone has a different idea of when and what would be its ATH, they are constantly disputing over it.

And this is just illustrating how unpredictable the market is in the sense that no one can truly predict it. For this reason, it's critical for us as investors to have a target price in mind when we sell our holdings because it can be difficult to do so without ultimately regretting our decision as to why we chose not to sell.



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September 30, 2023, 06:52:31 AM
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IMO, hoarding as much as you can will be the key ingredient to making more profits. We don't really know what could happen once the halving comes. There are pre-bull runs that could happen because of the fear of missing out. Then, there's a post-bull run because of the market fluctuation that could happen.
To my friends outside this forum, I always suggest to them to buy what they can afford. It doesn't need to be 1 Bitcoin. Just a fraction of it will suffice as long as they are doing it consistently with the money after savings. That means the residue of their salary instead of going to their bad habits, it could be invested in Bitcoin and just wait if they can make some once the bull comes.
This is the right way to do this, when the average person imagines how an investor buys assets they think they call their broker and buy a lot of stocks in a single move, but that is something a trader would do, an investor takes a long term approach and simply use whatever money they have available at the time to buy the assets they want, early on the amount of the assets you like will not be very impressive, but after a few years you will have way more than what you imagined, and once you finally sell your profits will be very high, unluckily very few people have the discipline to invest in this way and they will never get to enjoy the benefits that comes with it.
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September 30, 2023, 11:55:43 AM
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Bitcoin is known to be cyclical so it is obvious that the market will go back to being bearish after the bull run.  So we should think of ways on how to take advantage of this cycle.  I believe selling during bull run and buying during the bear market is the simplest thing to do.  Due to the cycle repeating itself, we can just rinse and repeat this procedure increasing our portfolio and profit as the cycle repeats.
Every time there is an increase, there must be a decrease, this is the market law that has been in force so far, the bull run season is the moment that bitcoin investors have been waiting for because in this season there is an opportunity for us to get large returns, but it is advisable to remain careful and don't be greedy when you are in a bull run season because a bear market can happen at any time, like last year's bull run season when the price of Bitcoin soared to its highest price making many greedy people try to make purchases at the peak price because they thought the price would continue to rise to an even higher area, but unfortunately after they bought a bear market came and the price of bitcoin fell slowly so they had to get out of the market with a loss.
The ups and downs of the market is something we need to get used to by now, and unfortunately not a lot of people got used to it so far. I think it's quite important to realize that it is going to be a tough one, but we could make it work one way or another. I think it Is quite important to realize that we are going to end up with some return if we are smart about it, but that Is not going to be all that possible if we ignore it.

I believe that we are going to end up with something that will make it due eventually and should be important. Greedy is another way of just going all in but if we do that to something that is low cap that would be also a stupid greedy move, but if we do that to bitcoin that's actually a smart move.

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September 30, 2023, 02:19:21 PM
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I tend to stay as hodler until bull run hits deep. At that point market sentiment will always get very very crazy. I sometimes feel like markets give at least 3-4 chances to you to dump and rebuy Bitcoin to increase the amount you own. Altcoins are always rollercoaster... I think it can be very risky but beneficial to capture those moments/turning points so money you can make can go like 10-15x so quickly even through Bitcoin trading.
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September 30, 2023, 02:45:26 PM
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After every successful bullrun market, the bitcoin price tries to go dip and if we can speculate well during this period, there's a lot of opportunities to get because there will be steady volatility leading to gradual dips i the market while some may be preparing for the market to rise higher the more, instead it keeps going dip that those that could also grab the opportunity will make their own fortune through that, it may not be a prolonged one but closely study will indicate the opportunity for doing that for the sake of those who already missed out the bullrun or are still interested to invest in bitcoin.

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September 30, 2023, 03:53:59 PM
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Buy low, sell high is the ultimate strategy. Buy the Bitcoin when the price crashes ($15k to $20k) and sell when the price reaches ATH ($69k or above). And repeat the cycle.
Most investors do that, they buy when the market is down and sell when it goes up, but some tend to keep holding onto some of their assets even when the market reaches a new all-time high, maybe because they hope for a better price but that's not a wise thing to do, especially if the market starts coming down again.

Form profit, buy some more bitcoin when the price crashes after the pump, and invest the remaining in offline investments. Buy a property, Gold, Silver, Platinum, etc.
Making offline investments will only be possible if someone has made a very big investment and the profits they've earned are huge that they can use to buy a property or invest in Gold or Silver, but if the profit isn't that much, I think it's better if they buy more Bitcoin with it when the time is right.

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September 30, 2023, 11:31:51 PM
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After every successful bullrun market, the bitcoin price tries to go dip and if we can speculate well during this period, there's a lot of opportunities to get because there will be steady volatility leading to gradual dips i the market while some may be preparing for the market to rise higher the more, instead it keeps going dip that those that could also grab the opportunity will make their own fortune through that, it may not be a prolonged one but closely study will indicate the opportunity for doing that for the sake of those who already missed out the bullrun or are still interested to invest in bitcoin.

If a trader sells during the bull run then it is wise to accumulate when the market transitions bear market.  It is quite heavy to our finances if we failed to sell during the bull run and start accumulating when the bear market enters since we need a new fund for this accumulation activity.  Unlike when we sold during the bear market, we have the funds plus profit needed for our reentry.  Wise traders do this kind of strategy in order to strenthen their position as cycles repeats itself.

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October 01, 2023, 11:20:56 AM
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Millions of ppl own cryptos so what's the final result if each of them followed advice about buying or selling because of halving? I've seen videos and read posts. Advice about when to buy or sell isn't good. There isn't a trusted trading format so you shouldn't accept what ppl say. It's about doing your own research before taking risks.

Lastly in all investments and trading decisions ensure to conduct thorough research and pay more attention to the volatility of the market that could also serve as guide in what direction to take during the halving.

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If a trader sells during the bull run then it is wise to accumulate when the market transitions bear market.  It is quite heavy to our finances if we failed to sell during the bull run and start accumulating when the bear market enters since we need a new fund for this accumulation activity.  Unlike when we sold during the bear market, we have the funds plus profit needed for our reentry.  Wise traders do this kind of strategy in order to strenthen their position as cycles repeats itself.
Traders who do this kind of thing usually have more experience in various market conditions so they will always sell during bullruns and will also be very disappointed if they just pass through this moment. Because in general traders who pass through this precious moment actually have to use new capital again to buy at low prices if they don't have time to sell during the bull run, so this will actually make it a little difficult for them to maintain the capital they use so that they don't experience losses when the cycle repeats itself.

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October 03, 2023, 11:01:12 PM
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When the bull run comes and you know that you made a lot of money because you achieved the target goals in the holdings that you saved, that is, you got profits no matter how you are able to invest in properties, it is good to do this when you notice or feel that you are back in the bear market again.

Because, of course, the heat of the rise of Bitcoin or altcoins is over, it is time for you to harvest and take advantage of the assets that have given us good savings or profit so that we can buy assets that can also help us. And also allocate a budget for cryptos that will fall hard during the bear season.

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October 04, 2023, 06:40:04 AM
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After every successful bullrun market, the bitcoin price tries to go dip and if we can speculate well during this period, there's a lot of opportunities to get because there will be steady volatility leading to gradual dips i the market while some may be preparing for the market to rise higher the more, instead it keeps going dip that those that could also grab the opportunity will make their own fortune through that, it may not be a prolonged one but closely study will indicate the opportunity for doing that for the sake of those who already missed out the bullrun or are still interested to invest in bitcoin.

If a trader sells during the bull run then it is wise to accumulate when the market transitions bear market.  It is quite heavy to our finances if we failed to sell during the bull run and start accumulating when the bear market enters since we need a new fund for this accumulation activity.  Unlike when we sold during the bear market, we have the funds plus profit needed for our reentry.  Wise traders do this kind of strategy in order to strenthen their position as cycles repeats itself.
This is how massive profits can be made even when an asset by itself is not as volatile as before, during the last bull run bitcoin made a 22x from its lowest point to its all time high, however even if someone just got 10x back then, if they invested all their capital back in bitcoin then if they could get 3x they could get 30x in total profits, and if they could get 2x during the bull run caused by the 2028 halving then that would mean 60x in profits, and this means that as long as someone is willing to wait for a few years then they can get results like what you could get with new altcoins, except that your risk you will be minimal compared to what you need to endure with those coins.
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If a trader sells during the bull run then it is wise to accumulate when the market transitions bear market.  It is quite heavy to our finances if we failed to sell during the bull run and start accumulating when the bear market enters since we need a new fund for this accumulation activity.  Unlike when we sold during the bear market, we have the funds plus profit needed for our reentry.  Wise traders do this kind of strategy in order to strenthen their position as cycles repeats itself.
Traders who do this kind of thing usually have more experience in various market conditions so they will always sell during bullruns and will also be very disappointed if they just pass through this moment. Because in general traders who pass through this precious moment actually have to use new capital again to buy at low prices if they don't have time to sell during the bull run, so this will actually make it a little difficult for them to maintain the capital they use so that they don't experience losses when the cycle repeats itself.

Taking a profit and reinvesting in the dip is a wise course of action that can increase an investor's portfolio significantly. Although it is hard to predict the exact market peak but if you are planning on taking a profit along the way towards a new ATH then wait for the price to surge above the $100,000 level. Sentiment about breking this level in the next bull run is significantly higher and if we compare bitcoins previous ROI in every bull cycle then the feasible ATH is higher than $100,000. So it's worth holding until bitcoin surpasses that level.









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October 04, 2023, 08:30:41 PM
 #80

Yeah, I think that should be the mindset, continue to accumulate as much as you can. Even at the start of the bull run, you can still do that and not think of stopping or selling you stash just before the bull run has started.

That's how I did the last time, specially that the block halving occured during the pandemic, and so you have nothing to do outside but instead focus on your crypto and build it as long as you can. Although we are done with pandemic already, but still it is a effective method to just continue regardless of what cycle we are. In short save and save for the the rainy days as you really don't know what the future holds.
The bull run at the last ATH may have been the peak price that I used to take profits, but believe me I bought again at a cheaper price when the bearish occurred a few months ago.
Under $20k is the best entry price for me right now.
This time the block halving will occur without a pandemic and this is of course also an opportunity that cannot be ignored.
If during the pandemic people focused on crypto, now we also have to be more focused because this ATH will be bigger and make new history. Practice trading psychology, make the best investment plan for the long term.
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