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December 27, 2023, 03:54:21 PM
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He deleted all his trust ratings, withdrew all his flags, is no longer eligible for DT & hasn't logged in since Dec 11th, safe to say the story is over.

As he committed forum self-immolation in spectacular fashion, there's really no point to continue to stomp around on his charred remains.
It really is pretty much over as far as a story is concerned. There is always a chance the account could/will be re-sold in future but that is a different matter and no doubt will be addressed if/when it happens. As for now though, the story is over regardless of whether he fulfils his commitments made towards prizes in other threads. Other than that, it was mentioned previously that he probably had more accounts therefore if it is true he never left and is focusing on other accounts.

He could have sold his account in secret and do a homerun but he wanted all the fireworks instead  Grin
If he sold the account he doesn't have to care anymore if it's a secret or a firework. Fucked the buyer probably, or maybe not because the buyer seems to have profitably absconded with some signature money if I'm reading the latest nonsense correctly, but either way it's not like account buyers add any value to the forum.
After the account was re-named and seemed to have changed hand, it was on the Tumbler signature campaign for a short while. We do not know if the buyer managed to make enough for his outlay to be returned.

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December 27, 2023, 03:59:19 PM
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Unfortunately, user Ratimov is dead.

Please take this into account if you rely on his participation in this or use his data.

This account will be blocked soon.

Do not contact anyone who will try to speak on his behalf, these are all scammers and speculators.

I don't know where exactly I should write about this, but I just saw your private message with a link to this theme, so I'm reporting it here.

Why is the account getting blocked?

Selling accounts isn't against the forum rules.

Something is fishy. It smells.

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December 27, 2023, 06:08:46 PM
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Wow, what a timely death.

It looks like he had been preparing it.

God forgive me if I'm wrong here, but this was also first thought I had. If I am wrong may God rest his soul.

But it's hard to believe such thing. First of all, knowing the way Ratimov used to act, this individual always used to do the best he could to shock. To impress. To amaze. To do something which people would consider stunning. Like being a best of best at everything and everybody to forget looking around and see that all he built he did through lies, shady actions and fooling the audience. Just like magicians do those tricks called "magic in your eyes". You are so amazed by what you see that you never think to look behind the magician or at his pockets etc.

Such announcement, done now, precisely 3-4 days before Halab's contest is over, which could lead to having the account also accused by a flag initiated by a contest winner and which could lead also to more red tags -- oh well, such announcement precisely in these moments seems for me just like a trick of a magician. Like he thought about "What can I do now to shock all these people and forget about a flag against me if I don't pay what I promised to pay?".

This gesture also looks like a way to protect, eventually, the account buyer or even himself, in case he did not sell the account yet. This account is already dramatically affected by the red tags received and, in case these tags would be correlated with other tags or a flag, it would make it useless. Impossible to sell, if he didn't sell it already. At same time, perhaps the buyer (in case he sold it though) asked him to give him a hand of help here and avoid a flag or other red tags. If that's the case, then what could Ratimov do? Exactly what he did all these years: to try, once again, to amaze the audience, to shock it, to leave it speechless. So he made that announcement. What else could shut people's mouth if not such an announcement? Literally, there was nothing else for him to invent in order to avoid a flag or more red tags after not paying for Halab's contest.

Furthermore, if such a sad incident actually happened, who is the one which kept making posts? And why would anyone make (Bitcoin-related posts) from the account of someone deceased? Who is the one which made the announcement? The buyer? And if it's the buyer, it's hard to believe that a buyer kept contact with the seller after the transaction was done. There would be no purpose for this. Even if this happened, who informed the buyer that Ratimov died? There are too many details which just don't add up here to believe that announcement...

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December 27, 2023, 06:34:57 PM
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Please tell me anyone, I have been accused of "targeting someones [Symmetricks] personality" by pointing out his recent name change from Ratimov to Symmetrick was an attempt from Ratomov to cover up his abuses.

Former Ratimov account changed his name earlier to cover up his abuses, when GazetaBitcoin presented it. Ratimov account changed name to Symmetrick and because Symmetrick (formerly known as Ratimov) gets often nominated in Bitcointalk Community awards for Anti Hero, his name appears often.
I can't stop laughing reading your post, what for? I still can't decipher it. There is no charade that people will not use their alts to do. You've expressed yourself much enough to know that you are more familiar with the forum than those who appear regularly. But this time, to directly target someone's personality. I hope it will be easier for you in the court of law to defend the "to cover up his abuses" remark if charged.

Did he tell you, or did you assume it? I'm amazed how people get to just say whatever comes to their head without a rethink.

In my impression, Ratimov and his name change was clearly motivated to cover up his abuses.
If I'm wrong, please show me anyone where my assumption is wrong?
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December 27, 2023, 09:08:01 PM
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Although for forum purposes it is the same thing. He was dead before he announced it.
Interesting, I am out of emoji.
Bitcointalk is a ghost place now?

In my impression, Ratimov and his name change was clearly motivated to cover up his abuses.
If I'm wrong, please show me anyone where my assumption is wrong?
It was as clear as the crystal. The name change, the silence, and now the dead news. He is a mad man.

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December 27, 2023, 09:14:21 PM
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The Ratimov account essentially became worthless, I’d be surprised if somebody bought it. Bitcointalk never ceases to amaze me, so many supposedly trustworthy, high ranked accounts have a huge fall from grace. The likes of Quickseller, Trade Fortress. You can now add Ratimov to the list.

The cynic in me doubts he is dead, seems like BS. If he is, RIP, I don’t believe it though.

It’s a real shame the way it played out for him on the forum. Totally self inflicted but I liked him, I guess I was tricked like so many he manipulated here.

His presence here will not be missed.

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Where did the rumours about him being dead originate?

Keeping that aside, there were some posts about him being that far ahead of the game that is would have been highly unlikely he did not have other accounts. It does sound like a far-fetched idea but if he sold the Ratimov/Symmetrick account while at the same time having several others to concentrate on, he could accept the fall from grace. As for his presence not being missed here, maybe he never left.

The Ratimov account essentially became worthless, I’d be surprised if somebody bought it. Bitcointalk never ceases to amaze me, so many supposedly trustworthy, high ranked accounts have a huge fall from grace. The likes of Quickseller, Trade Fortress. You can now add Ratimov to the list.

The cynic in me doubts he is dead, seems like BS. If he is, RIP, I don’t believe it though.

It’s a real shame the way it played out for him on the forum. Totally self inflicted but I liked him, I guess I was tricked like so many he manipulated here.

His presence here will not be missed.

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December 27, 2023, 09:33:53 PM
Last edit: December 27, 2023, 10:25:08 PM by Kingf1sher
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Explain to me how you can delete your posts so quickly?


9 messages in 24 seconds..
although I think I understand, it opens a lot of tabs and then quickly deletes them..
or does it use software?
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December 28, 2023, 06:22:45 AM
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Where did the rumours about him being dead originate?
From himself.

Explain to me how you can delete your posts so quickly?
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December 28, 2023, 06:45:10 AM
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Where did the rumours about him being dead originate?
From himself.

I believe that it was he himself who, after his death, has seen fit to come to the forum to give us the bad news.

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December 28, 2023, 06:59:30 AM
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Hello forum.

I am mindrust.

I am sad to give you the bad news.

I am dead.

Rest in peace.

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December 28, 2023, 07:01:53 AM
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Regardless of whether this is true or not, he has basically admitted that the original owner no longer controls the account, so make of that what you will. I've already put him on my distrust list, personally.

I wonder whether his "death" was directly or indirectly caused by the exposure of his past plagiarism? Huh

Explain to me how you can delete your posts so quickly?
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Middle-mouse button on the Delete button can be a lot faster than that.

That seems powerful and dangerous at the same time. At least phones and tablets don't have a middle mouse button emulation. Smiley

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I am dead.

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December 28, 2023, 09:18:31 AM
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I believe that it was he himself who, after his death, has seen fit to come to the forum to give us the bad news.
I'm very curious to know which internet provider he uses up there Tongue

Middle-mouse button on the Delete button can be a lot faster than that.
That seems powerful and dangerous at the same time.
Wait until you use it on the Delete button instead of the Merit button in a self-moderated topic Sad

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December 28, 2023, 09:30:32 AM
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The Ratimov account essentially became worthless
Yes, I have been reading this thread for sometime and I have also noticed that a single thread destroyed the user Ratimov and he's no more a known member of the forum right now. Everyone had seen threads of Ratimov and he was considered as a highly reliable member of the forum but now no one even talks about him.

It's strange that a member like Ratimov has gone into dark and changed his name to Symmetrick ah, I think I didn't misspelled it, and now doesn't make any good posts at all. I'm shocked to see something like that but I still think that how can a user with so many merits can do that. If I'm not wrong then that guy has spent a lot of time on this forum.

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December 28, 2023, 11:22:52 AM
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The Ratimov account essentially became worthless, I’d be surprised if somebody bought it. Bitcointalk never ceases to amaze me, so many supposedly trustworthy, high ranked accounts have a huge fall from grace. The likes of Quickseller, Trade Fortress. You can now add Ratimov to the list.

The cynic in me doubts he is dead, seems like BS. If he is, RIP, I don’t believe it though.

It’s a real shame the way it played out for him on the forum. Totally self inflicted but I liked him, I guess I was tricked like so many he manipulated here.

His presence here will not be missed.

You are not the only one who is suspicious of this claim, the only death that is obvious here is for the Ratimov forum account. We've seen announcements about someone's death, but after all the controversies on his part, it's clear why we all have doubts.
 
The closest scenario to me is where he wants to leave the forum as Ratimov because his reputation is ruined. At the same time, he has to return a few thousand dollars that he took in advance for renting his signature, I would say a very good reason to terminate the account finally. Proclaiming death is the best excuse, at least in front of those who expect money back.

Not that I don't have empathy, but it's sad when no one believes you if you say you died.

Explain to me how you can delete your posts so quickly?
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9 messages in 24 seconds..
Middle-mouse button on the Delete button can be a lot faster than that.

Too fast for a dead man.

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December 28, 2023, 11:30:31 AM
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9 messages in 24 seconds..

Meanwhile the account has only 6492 posts remaining. It still does not make any sense for this continuous purge of posts. What does Ratimov / the new account holder believe he achieves by deleting post after post? I understood at some point: at that moment the purpose was for covering any remaining evidence of plagiarism. But now?



The closest scenario to me is where he wants to leave the forum as Ratimov because his reputation is ruined. At the same time, he has to return a few thousand dollars that he took in advance for renting his signature, I would say a very good reason to terminate the account finally. Proclaiming death is the best excuse, at least in front of those who expect money back.

This is precisely same thing I mentioned here...

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I understood at some point: at that moment the purpose was for covering any remaining evidence of plagiarism. But now?

I think he was just throwing a fit and trying to do as much damage as he could before leaving.

I doubt he cared about plagiarism when he decided to sell the account. It would have been the buyer's problem, who could just say "I bought the account" and get away with it. Even if there was no sale, he could probably log in from a different VPN/browser/etc and tell theymos "I bought the account". Much easier than deleting thousands of posts.
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Meanwhile the account has only 6492 posts remaining. It still does not make any sense for this continuous purge of posts. What does Ratimov / the new account holder believe he achieves by deleting post after post? I understood at some point: at that moment the purpose was for covering any remaining evidence of plagiarism. But now?

already 5420, I wonder where he ended up, in heaven or hell after death... they have good internet there and computers with at least 32GB of RAM)

His soul wants to delete all his messages, this will affect everyone who communicated with him, the moderator will have to delete most of the messages of these people...
This is a fair price for communication and friendship with this person..

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I think he was just throwing a fit and trying to do as much damage as he could before leaving.

I doubt he cared about plagiarism when he decided to sell the account. It would have been the buyer's problem, who could just say "I bought the account" and get away with it. Even if there was no sale, he could probably log in from a different VPN/browser/etc and tell theymos "I bought the account". Much easier than deleting thousands of posts.
None of it was needed. An apology with civilized behave could still keep this account as high as it was.
Symmetrick Ratimov messed up.

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December 28, 2023, 08:50:21 PM
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Where did the rumours about him being dead originate?
From himself.
Another interesting development.

Where did the rumours about him being dead originate?
From himself.
I believe that it was he himself who, after his death, has seen fit to come to the forum to give us the bad news.
If that is the case then there is a possibility the account has not traded hands after all. Suggestions made earlier were that the account had been sold because the style of writing had changed in the Russian language posts he was making. Now it would point to him changing the name from Ratimov to Symmetrick but he would have kept control of it.

This is becoming very strange indeed.

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