Oscar Awards and movies bets and discussions

[bbc.reporter]

In short, the Oscar Awards seem close... but it is the awards season that adjusts the reality of the "@" although they say otherwise many betting houses, which remain "stuck" with these initial "@."

Then, awards season can make our bet more precise, consequently Oppenheimer being the candidate for these Oscar Awards, but be careful, eh!

The list of awards is longer than indicated, without a doubt they are the most important awards, Golden Globe Awards, Directors Guild, Screen Actors Guild, I would add:
Independent Spirit Awards, Critic's Choice among others but one that closes strongly is the Bafta. So no matter what the "@" says, awards season better defines where the real winners are and still, surprises happen at the Oscar Awards.

You are correct, the Bafta awards is another important date. I will add this. However, the Bafta have a different set of voters with a different inspiration than the members of the Academy of motion pictures arts and sciences. There might be some similarities in the nominations but there are small differences in which movies in each categories are voted as the winners. The best director, the best actor and the best movie might go to Christopher Nolan, Cilian Murphy and Oppenheimer in the Bafta for very clear reasons hehehe. However, the Oscars might vote differently.

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[Rikafip]

That would be crazy to be honest, I don't think it's a bad movie, but we are talking about the award of the Oscars academy here. For me, it was more a children or teenage movie than an adult one. And especially, more a long advertising for Mattel and Barbie toys than a serious movie.

Oscars are not what they used to be so you shouldn't really be surprised if Barbie ends up being among "Best Picture" nomineed. I mean, ideologically it fitst current Hollywood agenda, it made shit load of money and is accepted by the critics meaning all the requirements are set.

Prior to 2009 there were only 5 movies nominated for that award and since then we have 10 so every year we have few movies that really shoulnd't be there.


Regarding the ones that will probably be nominated, so far I watched Past Lives and Anatomy of A Fall and while both are good movies, I liked former more and so far it has been the most I saw this year. I am waiting for Oppenheimer and Killers of The Flower Moon to come on streaming sites while The Killer (the one I am very interested in because its Fincher's movie) is coming to Netflix in a few days (November 8th).

[Hispo]

Is there any way to bet something unhinged will take place in this edition of the Oscar Awards, something similar to the unsavory slap in the face given by Will Smith Last time?
Because I have a personal theory of the Oscar organizers realizing such event helped to boost the number of viewers worldview, since they are not stupid, they will try to pull off even more drama to attract even more people to watch their espectacle. The more people watching the Oscars, the more money the organizers can ask for advertisement.

[bbc.reporter]

Regarding the ones that will probably be nominated, so far I watched Past Lives and Anatomy of A Fall and while both are good movies, I liked former more and so far it has been the most I saw this year. I am waiting for Oppenheimer and Killers of The Flower Moon to come on streaming sites while The Killer (the one I am very interested in because its Fincher's movie) is coming to Netflix in a few days (November 8th).

You should add Napoleon in your list of movies to watch. It will be released in cinemas on November 22. If this movie was created to be inspirational and if it can get your sympathy for the leading character then this movie might have the capability to win some awards as an underdog very much similar to Coda.

Also, as I have mentioned already, a Ridley Scott and Joaquin Phoenix partnership has similar chances to win awards as Martin Scorsese and Leonardo di Caprio partnership hehehehe. The last movie of Ridley Scott with Joaquin is the Gladiator which won awards including best movie and best actor.

[Rikafip]

Because I have a personal theory of the Oscar organizers realizing such event helped to boost the number of viewers worldview, since they are not stupid, they will try to pull off even more drama to attract even more people to watch their espectacle.

People still think that incident from last year has been staged? Smh..

Will Smith has been banned from Oscars for 10 years, his reputation ruined and even career damaged as some movies were delayed yet people think that anyone in their right mind and in Will Smith's position would do it? Not everything is a conspiracy, people do stupid things all the time and that was one of them.

You should add Napoleon in your list of movies to watch.

Napoleon is already on my watchlist but I only referred to the movies you mention in the first post. And yeah, I have high expectations from that one as last Ridley's history movie ((The Last Duel) was quite good + Joaquin Phoenix is in it.

[Hispo]

Because I have a personal theory of the Oscar organizers realizing such event helped to boost the number of viewers worldview, since they are not stupid, they will try to pull off even more drama to attract even more people to watch their espectacle.

People still think that incident from last year has been staged? Smh..

Will Smith has been banned from Oscars for 10 years, his reputation ruined and even career damaged as some movies were delayed yet people think that anyone in their right mind and in Will Smith's position would do it? Not everything is a conspiracy, people do stupid things all the time and that was one of them.

You should add Napoleon in your list of movies to watch.

Napoleon is already on my watchlist but I only referred to the movies you mention in the first post. And yeah, I have high expectations from that one as last Ridley's history movie ((The Last Duel) was quite good + Joaquin Phoenix is in it.

Indeed, there is people who believes it was all about a conspiracy to either give more attention to the Oscar Awards or to attack political incorrectness by slapping the face of a comedian who was making fun of someone's appareance.
I admit that I am myself a little inclined to believe there was something fishy going on, but it must be because I was not aware of the penalties and punishments Will Smith was going to suffer for having taken the spotlight of the night in such a negative way, in front of the world.
Let us see what happenes this year, the number of viewers will be likely higher than previous years, solely because of the expectation of people like who speculate on the next slap, which may or may not occur.

Keep in mind, these awards were consistently losing relevance and public until something as unhinged as that happened and became viral.

[FanEagle]

I do believe that Oppenheimer will definitely get the best picture and best director without a doubt. Why? Because it was literally shared like that, and it came in with a huge hype as well, along with Barbie, the marketing that was done with those two movies together was something insane, barbienheimer type of names and all that, it was a movie that was both made for award season but also done for popularity at the same time, a very old school success story if you ask me.

I think it will win without a doubt and should be considered one of the all time best participants for such an award. Not because it is the best movie, but because it is done the best way for awards like these. I think it will win very easily, the others do not have a chance, if I can see it in any of my favorite places, I will certainly wager, anything 2.00 or above will be great to bet, under that and it's too guaranteed and would not feel like it would worth the risk to wager on it.

[Rikafip]

Keep in mind, these awards were consistently losing relevance and public until something as unhinged as that happened and became viral.

Incident from last year won't make it any more popular or relevant. On the other hand, what will make it more relevant is when they finally stop to push their agenda but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

I think it will win very easily, the others do not have a chance, if I can see it in any of my favorite places, I will certainly wager, anything 2.00 or above will be great to bet, under that and it's too guaranteed and would not feel like it would worth the risk to wager on it.

Well, if you are 100% sure that it will win the award, then it shoulnd't matter for you to bet on it even if odds are below 2. Also, even though Oppenheimer is the favorite at the moment, many things can still change and Napoleon hasn't been released yet and that's another one that many expect to end up getting nominated.

[bbc.reporter]

Because I have a personal theory of the Oscar organizers realizing such event helped to boost the number of viewers worldview, since they are not stupid, they will try to pull off even more drama to attract even more people to watch their espectacle.

People still think that incident from last year has been staged? Smh..

Will Smith has been banned from Oscars for 10 years, his reputation ruined and even career damaged as some movies were delayed yet people think that anyone in their right mind and in Will Smith's position would do it? Not everything is a conspiracy, people do stupid things all the time and that was one of them.

You should add Napoleon in your list of movies to watch.

Napoleon is already on my watchlist but I only referred to the movies you mention in the first post. And yeah, I have high expectations from that one as last Ridley's history movie ((The Last Duel) was quite good + Joaquin Phoenix is in it.

It was not staged. Did everyone see Chris Rock's counterattack in his newest stand up special? It was very brutally truthful. Everyone should watch it. He was also premiering it in the town where his wife grew up.

[Hispo]

Keep in mind, these awards were consistently losing relevance and public until something as unhinged as that happened and became viral.

Incident from last year won't make it any more popular or relevant. On the other hand, what will make it more relevant is when they finally stop to push their agenda but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Politics aside. Don't you remember the reaction people had once Will Smith slapped Chirs in the face? It completely give a lot of attention to the Oscars, even people who did not follow the awards was aware of what happened and commented about it and also, it is not a lie or an exaggeration those awards were going through a period of decadence since some years ago, whether  because the agenda you talk about or because people were simply not as interested as before.
I would even dare to say more people are keeping an eye on this year's edition because of the scandal of Will Smith, staged or not. It would not stop the organizers to try to pull off something to keep people hooked on their event.

[Rikafip]

It was not staged. Did everyone see Chris Rock's counterattack in his newest stand up special? It was very brutally truthful. Everyone should watch it. He was also premiering it in the town where his wife grew up.

That's what people do now, spread all sorts of conspiracy theories out of ignorance.

By the way, I finally saw Oppenheimer and while its a decent movie, I really don't understand the hype around it and especially I don't see a reason for it being a favorite to for a Best Picture. At least two movies (that will probably end up among nomineed) I saw this year were clearly superior (Past Lives and Anatomy of a Fall) and I still have to watch Killers Of The Flowers Moon.

[bbc.reporter]

Keep in mind, these awards were consistently losing relevance and public until something as unhinged as that happened and became viral.

Incident from last year won't make it any more popular or relevant. On the other hand, what will make it more relevant is when they finally stop to push their agenda but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Politics aside. Don't you remember the reaction people had once Will Smith slapped Chirs in the face? It completely give a lot of attention to the Oscars, even people who did not follow the awards was aware of what happened and commented about it and also, it is not a lie or an exaggeration those awards were going through a period of decadence since some years ago, whether  because the agenda you talk about or because people were simply not as interested as before.
I would even dare to say more people are keeping an eye on this year's edition because of the scandal of Will Smith, staged or not. It would not stop the organizers to try to pull off something to keep people hooked on their event.

The slapping of Chris Rock occurred during 2022 Oscar ceremomies. The Academy of motion pictures arts and science asked Chris Rock to be the host again for the 2023 ceremonies which I speculate that the slapping could be used for marketing hehe. However, Chris Rock did not accept. He said it would be something similar to returning to a crime scene hehehehe.

@Rikafip. You are lucky you only watched it in your home with subtitles. I watched it in the cinema and I was scratching my head and telling myself that this movie is not for the big screen.

[Hispo]

Keep in mind, these awards were consistently losing relevance and public until something as unhinged as that happened and became viral.

Incident from last year won't make it any more popular or relevant. On the other hand, what will make it more relevant is when they finally stop to push their agenda but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Politics aside. Don't you remember the reaction people had once Will Smith slapped Chirs in the face? It completely give a lot of attention to the Oscars, even people who did not follow the awards was aware of what happened and commented about it and also, it is not a lie or an exaggeration those awards were going through a period of decadence since some years ago, whether  because the agenda you talk about or because people were simply not as interested as before.
I would even dare to say more people are keeping an eye on this year's edition because of the scandal of Will Smith, staged or not. It would not stop the organizers to try to pull off something to keep people hooked on their event.

The slapping of Chris Rock occurred during 2022 Oscar ceremomies. The Academy of motion pictures arts and science asked Chris Rock to be the host again for the 2023 ceremonies which I speculate that the slapping could be used for marketing hehe. However, Chris Rock did not accept. He said it would be something similar to returning to a crime scene hehehehe.

@Rikafip. You are lucky you only watched it in your home with subtitles. I watched it in the cinema and I was scratching my head and telling myself that this movie is not for the big screen.

That is the kind of thing I mean. The academy probably wanted to carry the some of the attention of the slap he received to this next edition of the Oscars, but it was fruitless.
It is a weird thing Chris Rock decided not to host the event again, if I had to guess I would say he wants to distance as much as possible from what happened there and focus in his professional career, instead being remembered from what happened there. There is also possible he thought that accepting such honor again would have implied to joke or make references about what happened while on the stage, which probably could erode the friendship between him and Will Smith even further, among other actresses and actors who did not laughed at the circus which took place last year.
It is a wise choice by him in the long term, not to squish as much money and fame out the stupidness of Will.

[Rikafip]

@Rikafip. You are lucky you only watched it in your home with subtitles. I watched it in the cinema and I was scratching my head and telling myself that this movie is not for the big screen.

What was the issue? You couldn't understand the conversations without subtitles or something?

While I love going to cinema, the main reason I didn't watch Oppenheimer that way is because its simply too long for me to watch it that way. I just can't force myself to sit in cinema chair for 3 hours straight and for the same reason I didn't watch Killers of The Flower Moon which is even longer (almost 3 and a half hours).

[el kaka22]

Honestly, as someone who has watched Oppenheimer, that movie deserves an Oscar without a doubt, there is no other movie that was made all this year since the last Oscars that could be even remotely as close to that as possible.

I mean just the very last sentence is chilling, "I think we did", anyone who watched it knows what I am talking about, I do not want to give any spoilers, but that alone, from Cillian Murphy, is just unbelievable. I have watched many scary movies in my life, I love them, and yet I can tell you that none of them ended as scary as that because it's the reality we are living in right now. That is why I have to say that this movie was definitely the best movie there ever was without a doubt, best movie I have seen in many years.

[bbc.reporter]

@Rikafip. You are lucky you only watched it in your home with subtitles. I watched it in the cinema and I was scratching my head and telling myself that this movie is not for the big screen.

What was the issue? You couldn't understand the conversations without subtitles or something?

While I love going to cinema, the main reason I didn't watch Oppenheimer that way is because its simply too long for me to watch it that way. I just can't force myself to sit in cinema chair for 3 hours straight and for the same reason I didn't watch Killers of The Flower Moon which is even longer (almost 3 and a half hours).

No, I might have a hearing problem hehehe. Also or movies that have much dialogue, I like to have the subtitles on for me to be more absorbed by the movie very much like reading a book.

In any case, my list to watch for Saturday and Sunday will be Killers of the Flowermoon, Poor Things and the Holdovers. There is also a movie by Bradley Cooper with the title Maestro. He starred, directed and produced this movie.

[Rikafip]

No, I might have a hearing problem hehehe. Also or movies that have much dialogue, I like to have the subtitles on for me to be more absorbed by the movie very much like reading a book.

Hah, its exactly the same situation for me. I started having hearing problems in certain situations few years ago so its also a problem for me to watch movies subtitles. I mean, I can watch it but I may miss some words here and there while I want to hear absolutely every word while watching.

In any case, my list to watch for Saturday and Sunday will be Killers of the Flowermoon, Poor Things and the Holdovers. There is also a movie by Bradley Cooper with the title Maestro. He starred, directed and produced this movie.

Poor Things already showing in cinema at your place? Here it comes in 3 weeks.

[bbc.reporter]

@Rikafip. Poor Things is removed from the list hehe. I only assumed it was released already because it is in the sportsbooks' list for best picture already. I watched the trailer and this gave me a feeling that is something similar to Everything Everywhere All At Once. It might be the best picture winner if the voters vote like they have done last year, I reckon.

Also on Rottentomatoes, the early reviews are very good and they declare that Emma Stone might win for best actress. She is also the favorite in the sportsbooks this early, very much similar to Michelle Yeoh for her performance on Everything Everywhere hehehehe.

[bbc.reporter]

Regarding the ones that will probably be nominated, so far I watched Past Lives and Anatomy of A Fall and while both are good movies, I liked former more and so far it has been the most I saw this year. I am waiting for Oppenheimer and Killers of The Flower Moon to come on streaming sites while The Killer (the one I am very interested in because its Fincher's movie) is coming to Netflix in a few days (November 8th).

This weekend I watched the Killers The Flower Moon, the Past Lives and the Holdovers.

On Killers of The Flower Moon, I was not very happy watching this movie. It gave me a similar bored feeling as Oppenheimer and yes I watched it with subtitles.

On Past Lives, I liked the movie especially the beginning. Watching it going to the ending began some boring moments, however, my curiousity on how it will end kept me absorbed by the movie. This movie might be my bet for best cinematography if it is nominated.

On the Holdovers, as of now this is the best movie of the list. My bet for best original screenplay. This is a winner! I wish the odds will be big hhehe.

[Rikafip]

This weekend I watched the Killers The Flower Moon, the Past Lives and the Holdovers.

You lucky bastard! 

Holdovers is coming here in January but I hope that decent quality screener will leak before that, as it usually happen during Oscar season. I have really high hopes for that movie,mainly because I loved Payne-Giamatti combo in Sideways so I happy to hear that you have such a high opinion on it.