Oscar Awards and movies bets and discussions

[bbc.reporter]

@Rikafip. No, I said I cannot watch Oppenheimer 4 times similar to what I did to Tenet where I liked Tenet very much on the second viewing then watched it again 2 more times. On Oppenheimer, I reckon 2 viewings is too much hehehe.

In any case, did you like Killers of Flower Moon?

I have already watched Anatomy of a Fall yesterday. The movie is simple and low budget, however, this is the type of movie that would make me run fast to get more snacks. It is a very good movie! Sandra Hüller will be my bet for best actress.

[STT]

Theres the danger of personal bias when judging these category winners.  Tenet is just an easier movie to watch, more entertaining but the awards are for exceptional performances etc.  personally I love all the action movies but they lack the depth to get a win often.  The best route can be in something like soundtrack category where some movies are awesome in the midst of a quite light plot or dialogue.    
  Of those two movies I'd be biased towards Oppenheimer even if its less watchable on repeat because the very nature of the events it describes are world changing and extremely sensitive to handle and describe to a global audience.   Its probably easier to win an oscar in that regard though it doesn't have to be true, a musical or any movie can win but I look out for new or different in some way to advance the  chances of any particular movie.

[FanEagle]

I didn't really consider Killers of Flower Moon as a big big movie and just wanted to see it because Leo and De niro was in it, and I still think that Oppenheimer was better. I still think Oppenheimer is not even remotely close to any other movie, if that doesn't win the best movie of the year then I do not know what I am watching because it is by far the best, not even maybe for me.

I would put 1.01 odds for that movie, that's how much I believe that they should win, doesn't mean they will, academy has made some terrible decisions here and there, so I would guess some years they pick the movie that should win and some years they are just picking something because they want to pick it, and that means we are going to just wait and see if they will give it to the movie that deserves it or the one that they want to give just because they feel like it. The decision making process is a bit weird, you do not exactly know what they look for, certainly not what the people wants, otherwise it would just be marvel movies with billions of box office returns.

[Rikafip]

@Rikafip. No, I said I cannot watch Oppenheimer 4 times similar to what I did to Tenet where I liked Tenet very much on the second viewing then watched it again 2 more times. On Oppenheimer, I reckon 2 viewings is too much hehehe.

Ah, I understand. I watched Tenet only once and I have no intentions watching it ever again.

In any case, did you like Killers of Flower Moon?

Nope, as movie is 3 and a half hours liong so i have to wait for weekend (most likely Saturday) to be able to watch it in one go.

Sandra Hüller will be my bet for best actress.

She is always great! If you haven't already, I suggest you to take a look at one of hers previous movies, Toni Erdmann and she has another inteersting one that should be out soon, The Zone of Interest]https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7160372/?ref_=nm_flmg_t_2_act]The Zone of Interest.

[Saint-loup]

@Rikafip. No, I said I cannot watch Oppenheimer 4 times similar to what I did to Tenet where I liked Tenet very much on the second viewing then watched it again 2 more times. On Oppenheimer, I reckon 2 viewings is too much hehehe.

In any case, did you like Killers of Flower Moon?

I have already watched Anatomy of a Fall yesterday. The movie is simple and low budget, however, this is the type of movie that would make me run fast to get more snacks. It is a very good movie! Sandra Hüller will be my bet for best actress.

Sandra Hüller is an interesting bet for the best actress award but personally I still stand with Lily Gladstone. Would you like to bet against me? 1 or 2mbtc (it could be less or more, if you prefer)
If none of them win the best actress Oscar, the bet would be voided. If Sandra Hüller win the award I would pay you Xmbtc in the week after the Oscar ceremony (currently scheduled for March 11, 2024 utc), if it's Lily Gladstone you would do the same. In case of high BTC fees, the settlement could be done in a large cap altcoin (failing to pay could lead to be tagged by DT members and a thread in the Reputation section, of course). What do you think?

[bbc.reporter]

@Saint-loup. Hehehehe are you a hustler? Why would I accept your offer if I can risk my money on the sportsbooks' offer with better odds. Sandra Hüller is presently on 7.50 for best actress. However, I will accept your offer if you agree that my bet is Emma Stone against your Lily Gladstone. Also, I cannot agree if the price is in crypto. This will be a problem for the loser. Let us agree on $50 and pay after the winner is announced using an acceptable altcoin if fees on bitcoin are high.

[Saint-loup]

@Saint-loup. Hehehehe are you a hustler? Why would I accept your offer if I can risk my money on the sportsbooks' offer with better odds. Sandra Hüller is presently on 7.50 for best actress. However, I will accept your offer if you agree that my bet is Emma Stone against your Lily Gladstone. Also, I cannot agree if the price is in crypto. This will be a problem for the loser. Let us agree on $50 and pay after the winner is announced using an acceptable altcoin if fees on bitcoin are high.

It's not the same thing as a sportsbook bet because at sportsbooks you would lose your stake if any other actress win, while here you would only lose $50 if Gladstone is the winner, and nothing else, so it's not the same thing. Especially if you think Killers of the Flower Moon is not good...
Anyway if Sandra Hüller is your favorite in your heart and your inner conviction it wouldn't be funny to bet on someone else you don't trust and you don't like simply because she is better rated by bookmakers (who are wrong most of the time).
So if you still want to bet on her I'm ready to take your bet at those odds (ie 7.50). It means it would be a 6.5 to 1 paying bet (6.5:1). If you win I would pay you 6.5 what you would pay me if I win. For $50, I would pay you $325. On a sportbook you would pay $50 to bet and receive $375(7.5x) if you win because you would receive your stake back($50) along with your winnings($325)(6.5x). Here you don't pay anything to bet, so you keep your stake but you receive the winnings only(6.5x). What do you think of that?
If you prefer betting on Emma Stone, I can accept it but only if you really like the movie and the actress's performance. So we would need to wait for its release.

[bbc.reporter]

@Saint-loup. It appears you do not understand. Similar to my enjoyment for the movie the Holdovers, I liked Sandra Hüller's performance and to win $100 I would only need to bet $15. This is a bet for fun on the Oscar awards. If this is a bet of inner conviction then I would bet everything I have. You make it appear that this is a serious challenge hehehehe.

In any case, if we are talking about a winning bet. Lily Gladstone is very much praised by the critics and speculated to win but only very few people have taken notice on Sandra Hüller's performance. Also, I can use the same argument on you, if you have Lily Gladstone with inner conviction then why would we need to wait for Emma Stone's performance?

However, I will accept your bet and it appears that you might be afraid that I might not pay by telling me I will be tagged by DT members. I will send you the money and you will also become the escrow for this bet. We use 1mbtc as the price for me to win 6.5 mbtc from the bet. But I have my proposal, if Sandra Hüller is not in the final list of nominations the bet will not continue.

[Saint-loup]

@Saint-loup. It appears you do not understand. Similar to my enjoyment for the movie the Holdovers, I liked Sandra Hüller's performance and to win $100 I would only need to bet $15. This is a bet for fun on the Oscar awards. If this is a bet of inner conviction then I would bet everything I have. You make it appear that this is a serious challenge hehehehe.

In any case, if we are talking about a winning bet. Lily Gladstone is very much praised by the critics and speculated to win but only very few people have taken notice on Sandra Hüller's performance. Also, I can use the same argument on you, if you have Lily Gladstone with inner conviction then why would we need to wait for Emma Stone's performance?

However, I will accept your bet and it appears that you might be afraid that I might not pay by telling me I will be tagged by DT members. I will send you the money and you will also become the escrow for this bet. We use 1mbtc as the price for me to win 6.5 mbtc from the bet. But I have my proposal, if Sandra Hüller is not in the final list of nominations the bet will not continue.

To be honest, it would really bore me to have to care about that bet during several months and to waste transaction fees for nothing at the end if your actress is not qualified. So I have a counterproposal, if Sandra Hüller is not nominated, your bet will be replaced by another one, on another actress, with other odds then. It would be a kind of joker.
So you would need to choose 2 actresses instead of one and we would need to agree with the payout of the 2nd choice. Of course if Hüller is nominated, your 2nd choice will be voided, and won't count anymore for the victory.  
I would have a joker too, but my joker would be Gladstone Lily   LOL  
If our joker is not qualified either, there is no 3rd joker, and the bet will continue to the end.

My other proposal is to change the bet into a bet against Gladstone at 1:1 in case of failure of Hüller's nomination (while Gladstone being nominated), instead of a 2nd actress bet. That is to say I would pay you 2mbtc(your stake+mine) if Gladstone doesn't win the best actress award and I would keep your 1mbtc stake if she wins. If she's not nominated I would send back your stake(1mbtc).

[bbc.reporter]

@Saint-loup. This proposal of yours is very good. This will certainly make the Oscar ceremony more exciting next year hehehehe.

Final clearance from you. If Sandra Hüller is not included in the final list of nominations, my bet against your Lily Gladstone will be Emma Stone for odds of 1:1, however, if Sandra Hüller is nominated for best actress then this bet continues and it will be on odds of 1:6.50. Correct? Bet is 1mbtc and I want you to be the escrow. I will send once the fees are lower. Also, it might be yours already ehhehehehehehee.

Send me address.

[Rikafip]

I will send once the fees are lower. Also, it might be yours already ehhehehehehehee.

Why bother with sending as I don't think fees will go down anytime soon. Isn't it more convenient for both sides to simply wait to see who wins and at the end whoever losses, sends BTC?  I honestly doubt that any of you will try to scam each other and effectively ruin your reputation here.

Regarding Emma Stone, from what I hear, she really kicked ass in Poor Things (I have to admit that I have a crush on her for a loing time, ever since Superbad  ). Can't for that damn movie to come to cinemas.

[bbc.reporter]

@Rikafip. However, the voters do not only consider the performance. They might also be considering their agenda, their politics and what statement their pick would make to the world.

Emma Stone is a white, American girl who is a good actress but Lily Gladstone is an American native who will certainly make a statement if she wins for best actress. This will open a storyline on how her people were persecuted, killed and moved from their lands by the American settlers. It might also help in Hollywood's woke agenda.

In any case, @Saint-loup has not sent a bitcoin address yet. I will wait until Wednesday and I will assume the discussions for this bet is cancelled if there is no address.

[Saint-loup]

Why it would be cancelled bro, you think I start to be scared of losing against you? LOL I'm kidding of course
Before giving you my address I want to sum up things in order to avoid any future boring contentious disputes about the agreement.

So do you agree with this :

If Sandra Hüller wins, you will receive 6.5mbtc + 1mbtc from your stake
If Lily Gladstone wins, you won't receive anything I'll keep your 1mbtc
If Sandra Hüller is not nominated but Emma Stone(your jocker) wins, you will receive 1mbtc + 1mbtc
If Sandra Hüller is not nominated and any other actress than Emma Stone (and Lily Gladstone) wins, you will receive 1mbtc(your stake back)
If Sandra Hüller is nominated and Emma Stone wins or any other actress (except Lily Gladstone), you will receive 1mbtc(your stake back)

Are you ok with that bro?

[AmoreJaz]

@Rikafip. However, the voters do not only consider the performance. They might also be considering their agenda, their politics and what statement their pick would make to the world.

Emma Stone is a white, American girl who is a good actress but Lily Gladstone is an American native who will certainly make a statement if she wins for best actress. This will open a storyline on how her people were persecuted, killed and moved from their lands by the American settlers. It might also help in Hollywood's woke agenda.

In any case, @Saint-loup has not sent a bitcoin address yet. I will wait until Wednesday and I will assume the discussions for this bet is cancelled if there is no address.

i have the same feeling also on this one. they have other considerations here, you know, even if we say we are in the film industry, you can't also avoid the politics surrounding it. so the likelihood of lily gladstone being the winner is very high. a very good statement for their cause. and if that happens, it may very well stir the interest of more audience to check out this film even if the run time is so long, longer than the usual movie films. but i surprised myself on this one, normally i am bored with longer films but this one is good in my opinion as i stayed on this movie til the end. just bring more popcorn and drinks.  

for the other movies nominated for this event, i still have to see some of them so i don't know yet about the chance in other categories. by the way, if you want to bet in other interesting money lines different from the usual betting lines from bookies, you can check out  - futuur

but you can check the odds like in best actress, stake is indeed favouring stone and gladstone as the top contenders on this category, whereas, murphy and cooper on the best actor top choices based from the odds.


https://stake.com/sports/politics-entertainment/entertainment/outrights

[bbc.reporter]

Why it would be cancelled bro, you think I start to be scared of losing against you? LOL I'm kidding of course
Before giving you my address I want to sum up things in order to avoid any future boring contentious disputes about the agreement.

So do you agree with this :

If Sandra Hüller wins, you will receive 6.5mbtc + 1mbtc from your stake
If Lily Gladstone wins, you won't receive anything I'll keep your 1mbtc
If Sandra Hüller is not nominated but Emma Stone(your jocker) wins, you will receive 1mbtc + 1mbtc
If Sandra Hüller is not nominated and any other actress than Emma Stone (and Lily Gladstone) wins, you will receive 1mbtc(your stake back)
If Sandra Hüller is nominated and Emma Stone wins or any other actress (except Lily Gladstone), you will receive 1mbtc(your stake back)

Are you ok with that bro?

Why would anyone assume that you were scared? Your Lily Gladstone is very much praised by the critics, she is the predicited winner for best actress and you are the escrow for this bet. I should be the one who should be afraid hehhehehe.

In any case, yes I agree. Your latest proposal is only a repitition of the original proposal that I have discussed with you.

Send address and I will send you 1mbtc as soon as the fees are low. I will use my campaign payment for the bet to show that I have received the coins from the manager and sent coins to you.

[Rikafip]

@Rikafip. However, the voters do not only consider the performance. They might also be considering their agenda, their politics and what statement their pick would make to the world.

Of course Academy has its own agenda and rarely awards Oscars purely based on the performance + it also depends on the amount of money film tudio invests in "lobbying". 

Emma Stone is a white, American girl who is a good actress but Lily Gladstone is an American native who will certainly make a statement if she wins for best actress. This will open a storyline on how her people were persecuted, killed and moved from their lands by the American settlers.

True, those are all the things that Academy might take into consideration, but I also think that topic of "Poor Things" (afaik feminism) might also be attractive to them, and as AmoreJaz shown even Stake favors her over Lily Gladstone.

[Saint-loup]

Why it would be cancelled bro, you think I start to be scared of losing against you? LOL I'm kidding of course
Before giving you my address I want to sum up things in order to avoid any future boring contentious disputes about the agreement.

So do you agree with this :

If Sandra Hüller wins, you will receive 6.5mbtc + 1mbtc from your stake
If Lily Gladstone wins, you won't receive anything I'll keep your 1mbtc
If Sandra Hüller is not nominated but Emma Stone(your jocker) wins, you will receive 1mbtc + 1mbtc
If Sandra Hüller is not nominated and any other actress than Emma Stone (and Lily Gladstone) wins, you will receive 1mbtc(your stake back)
If Sandra Hüller is nominated and Emma Stone wins or any other actress (except Lily Gladstone), you will receive 1mbtc(your stake back)

Are you ok with that bro?

Why would anyone assume that you were scared? Your Lily Gladstone is very much praised by the critics, she is the predicited winner for best actress and you are the escrow for this bet. I should be the one who should be afraid hehhehehe.

In any case, yes I agree. Your latest proposal is only a repitition of the original proposal that I have discussed with you.

Send address and I will send you 1mbtc as soon as the fees are low. I will use my campaign payment for the bet to show that I have received the coins from the manager and sent coins to you.

Ok dude, here is my address for your 1mbtc stake : bc1q8rsz94pfk32x6ukrxkq7hh74trfunla6evy53m
Unfortunately mining fees have lowered since yesterday but they're still high. I hope you will be able to send the amount before 23th January, day of the Oscar Nominations Announcement though. If the transaction hasn't been mined before this day it's not a problem as long as it had been sent.

[bbc.reporter]

Why it would be cancelled bro, you think I start to be scared of losing against you? LOL I'm kidding of course
Before giving you my address I want to sum up things in order to avoid any future boring contentious disputes about the agreement.

So do you agree with this :

If Sandra Hüller wins, you will receive 6.5mbtc + 1mbtc from your stake
If Lily Gladstone wins, you won't receive anything I'll keep your 1mbtc
If Sandra Hüller is not nominated but Emma Stone(your jocker) wins, you will receive 1mbtc + 1mbtc
If Sandra Hüller is not nominated and any other actress than Emma Stone (and Lily Gladstone) wins, you will receive 1mbtc(your stake back)
If Sandra Hüller is nominated and Emma Stone wins or any other actress (except Lily Gladstone), you will receive 1mbtc(your stake back)

Are you ok with that bro?

Why would anyone assume that you were scared? Your Lily Gladstone is very much praised by the critics, she is the predicited winner for best actress and you are the escrow for this bet. I should be the one who should be afraid hehhehehe.

In any case, yes I agree. Your latest proposal is only a repitition of the original proposal that I have discussed with you.

Send address and I will send you 1mbtc as soon as the fees are low. I will use my campaign payment for the bet to show that I have received the coins from the manager and sent coins to you.

Ok dude, here is my address for your 1mbtc stake : bc1q8rsz94pfk32x6ukrxkq7hh74trfunla6evy53m
Unfortunately mining fees have lowered since yesterday but they're still high. I hope you will be able to send the amount before 23th January, day of the Oscar Nominations Announcement though. If the transaction hasn't been mined before this day it's not a problem as long as it had been sent.

I am quite certain the fees will be low before January 23. I already have the incoming transaction for me waiting to be confirmed. I will send 1mbtc to you immediately once the coins are confirmed and available.

@Rikafip. Have you watched Killers of the Flower Moon already?

Also, anyone who has watched Poor Things, please no spoilers and no hype. I might want my expectations to be low to like the movie hehehehe.

[slaman29]

Sadly, I think above discussions about "hotness of issue" will decide winner for best actress. I'm Asian but last year's Oscar winner for best film was not deserving. I liked the movie but I think it won because it was Asian. Same as best actress. Michelle Yeoh did way better in old films but anyway. I guess I don't need to be afraid of offending anyone since I'm self-offending lol.

@Rikafip. No, I said I cannot watch Oppenheimer 4 times similar to what I did to Tenet where I liked Tenet very much on the second viewing then watched it again 2 more times. On Oppenheimer, I reckon 2 viewings is too much hehehe.

Ah, I understand. I watched Tenet only once and I have no intentions watching it ever again.

I'm ok watching it once too. The thing for me I find modern movies are way too focused on style and complicating. Oppenheimer was "cool" but I like cool until a certain extent after that it's too over the top. Tenet overcomplicated to lead audience into thinking they are "intelligent".

Best Film Oscar should always be to me something that is timeless and yet surprised everyone the first time.

I watched Oppenheimer after I watched Peaky Blinders. I kinda expected the acting!

[FanEagle]

@Rikafip. No, I said I cannot watch Oppenheimer 4 times similar to what I did to Tenet where I liked Tenet very much on the second viewing then watched it again 2 more times. On Oppenheimer, I reckon 2 viewings is too much hehehe.

Ah, I understand. I watched Tenet only once and I have no intentions watching it ever again.

I'm ok watching it once too. The thing for me I find modern movies are way too focused on style and complicating. Oppenheimer was "cool" but I like cool until a certain extent after that it's too over the top. Tenet overcomplicated to lead audience into thinking they are "intelligent".

Best Film Oscar should always be to me something that is timeless and yet surprised everyone the first time.

I watched Oppenheimer after I watched Peaky Blinders. I kinda expected the acting!

I think action and chatting are different things. There isn't that many scenes where something happens at Oppenheimer, it's mainly people talking, it's a story telling for sure but it's just talking people, that's about it, maybe the nuclear explosion is the only thing that may matter, but that's about it.

I believe that Tenet is opposite of that, something is constantly happening, there are so many things that are going on and there is action all around, so it makes you feel alive and you want to watch it again. That difference is style preference, I prefer where actors actually act the hell out of it, I do not like Tom Cruise type of movies, I like movies like marriage story, where it's not action, it's the acting performance that matters and Oppenheimer is a great example of that. This is of course not to say that it's a better movie or anything, movies are personal experience, it's as good as you think it is, and for everyone that's true, there isn't a single true in this, we all have our own truth about it.