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October 03, 2023, 07:28:18 AM |
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As with another service I use, the situation is similar here in terms of casino bonuses, it is difficult to withdraw easily with the criteria that most players will lose more than they win. Maybe it's their own plan to attract users, but honestly it makes me more alert to not rush into casino bonuses. Most of us can easily click on promotional campaigns with familiar products, but if they are willing to reward, they can eliminate some really unreasonable procedures, but we are just gambling player.
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Mauser
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October 03, 2023, 07:34:39 AM |
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Playing without any VIP and bonus benefits on a casino is pretty dull because this feature gives player extra boost to our profitability. I decided to leave the casino and register to new one that gives me bonus. I'm just curious on why casino offer a bonus that they can't handle once user keeps winning using this. They can adjust the requirements to make it more competitive instead of removing all the benefits to user just because he keeps winning. It's not player problem if he is very lucky.
Sharing this experience to be an eye opener that we can't have a consistent profit on a casino without being restricted. Just enjoy the game and don't focus much on profit. In the end, I decided to just focus on trading and rest on gambling.
That is a bit harsh from the casino to remove you from all their promotions. How long have you been gambling at the casino and where there any emails before that or was it the first interaction about the bonuses? From the email it sounds like they have quite a lot of different bonus schemes running. Because a deposit bonus is usually a onetime event and after you took advantage from it, it wouldn't make sense for the casino to ban you from it. Even in your case with a 20/20 winning streak, this is just one lucky gambler out of a huge number of players. Another question would be if you never deposit any new money and only use their daily bonuses to make a profit. I would expect that casino don't like such kind of behaviour, but they could always limit the withdrawals to a large number of games played. Not sure how I would have reacted in your case, but switching casinos is definitely a good idea. There must be a reason why they only limit you from their promotions and not all the other gamblers, it feels a bit like they don’t want you at their casino anymore. At least you can still withdraw your money and move on. Better not to risk it and start playing at a different casino.
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October 03, 2023, 12:06:08 PM |
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This is what I dislike most with casinos, such as this one is not worth using anymore, just change casinos with the same or similar service and try to replicate this luck you defined. The moment I was reading what you wrote, I suspected that it might be your luck shining that caused this restriction, and lo and behold, you made mention of it. This is not a fair casino and it's not worth using since they cannot guarantee you the service others are benefiting.
It's still good that they didn't delay your withdrawal, after all, it's still about bonus denial, so you should weigh your options around it.
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delfastTions
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October 03, 2023, 01:12:58 PM |
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Playing without any VIP and bonus benefits on a casino is pretty dull because this feature gives player extra boost to our profitability. I decided to leave the casino and register to new one that gives me bonus. I'm just curious on why casino offer a bonus that they can't handle once user keeps winning using this. They can adjust the requirements to make it more competitive instead of removing all the benefits to user just because he keeps winning. It's not player problem if he is very lucky.
Sharing this experience to be an eye opener that we can't have a consistent profit on a casino without being restricted. Just enjoy the game and don't focus much on profit. In the end, I decided to just focus on trading and rest on gambling.
That is a bit harsh from the casino to remove you from all their promotions. How long have you been gambling at the casino and where there any emails before that or was it the first interaction about the bonuses? From the email it sounds like they have quite a lot of different bonus schemes running. Because a deposit bonus is usually a onetime event and after you took advantage from it, it wouldn't make sense for the casino to ban you from it. Even in your case with a 20/20 winning streak, this is just one lucky gambler out of a huge number of players. Another question would be if you never deposit any new money and only use their daily bonuses to make a profit. I would expect that casino don't like such kind of behaviour, but they could always limit the withdrawals to a large number of games played. Not sure how I would have reacted in your case, but switching casinos is definitely a good idea. There must be a reason why they only limit you from their promotions and not all the other gamblers, it feels a bit like they don’t want you at their casino anymore. At least you can still withdraw your money and move on. Better not to risk it and start playing at a different casino. As soon as a player begins to notice some strange things in the behavior of casino administrators, of course this should always puzzle and alarm you. In my opinion, if you notice such strange things, then you should not immediately contact the support of this casino with a request to explain what is happening with your games and, especially, with your bonuses, if they are used in the game. Support administrators, responding to your requests, in this case will already add you to a certain list of clients with whom they themselves should communicate a little differently than with the bulk of other clients. And they may begin to explain to you at length and tediously why, if you play fairly, you are not able to win quite like all the other players. Well, they will explain to you and even give you arguments that everything is not as you thought. If you belong to that small group of pathologically lucky players, that is, those who win a little more than the average player, then it is probably better to change casinos and play in a new casino. All the same, you are in a group of lucky players, and this will most likely not change in the new casino. Yes, it's worth changing casinos.
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SamReomo
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October 03, 2023, 02:34:38 PM |
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If a casino does that then they are surely not among the transparent ones. If a player is winning then a trusted casinos would never take any action to stop those players in anyway and if a casino does that then that casino can't be trusted. I think playing without bonus is good for the players because all the bonuses come with their own terms and conditions and wagering requirements. A casino mostly give those bonuses to grab more and more money from the gamblers and they add wagering requirements because most of the times the gamblers aren't able to win that much and as a result they will lose the bonus money plus their deposited funds. I believe that most of the casinos will pose such restrictions for players who win a lot and basically win with the help of the bonuses. The reputed casinos won't do that but the less-reputed ones will always do that.
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Doan9269
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October 03, 2023, 04:36:42 PM |
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This is what I dislike most with casinos, such as this one is not worth using anymore, just change casinos with the same or similar service and try to replicate this luck you defined. Fine and good he can decided to check on alternative gambling platforms, but before doing so, the gambler too should also try every necessary steps to ensure that what happened from where he was coming from does not repeated itself with the new casino he's trying out, we also have some lapses that were as a result of the activities we do when using their platform which some are not permitted under their ToS. The moment I was reading what you wrote, I suspected that it might be your luck shining that caused this restriction, and lo and behold, you made mention of it. This is not a fair casino and it's not worth using since they cannot guarantee you the service others are benefiting.
It's still good that they didn't delay your withdrawal, after all, it's still about bonus denial, so you should weigh your options around it.
I don't think a reputable gambling organization will take such action without a cause, if you're eligible for any bonus they will give accordingly without any denial as long as you're not being suspected.
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fapar
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October 03, 2023, 04:39:37 PM |
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This is my first time experiencing restrictions to a casino bonuses and other benefits for a loyal casino player. I become extremely lucky to this certain casino that makes me have a 20/20 winning percentage to all my deposit that ranging from 100% to 200% of my original deposit including the bonuses.
I'm expecting this restriction to happened to me since casino will surely doesn't allowed anyone consistently winning. I view this punishment as compliment since it's very rare to defeat a casino.
Playing without any VIP and bonus benefits on a casino is pretty dull because this feature gives player extra boost to our profitability. I decided to leave the casino and register to new one that gives me bonus. I'm just curious on why casino offer a bonus that they can't handle once user keeps winning using this. They can adjust the requirements to make it more competitive instead of removing all the benefits to user just because he keeps winning. It's not player problem if he is very lucky.
Sharing this experience to be an eye opener that we can't have a consistent profit on a casino without being restricted. Just enjoy the game and don't focus much on profit. In the end, I decided to just focus on trading and rest on gambling.
In this case, the casino logic is very simple and justified from a practical point of view. Initially, loyalty bonuses are provided for all new players (for example, freerolls), later VIP levels are established based on the amount of deposited funds. In your case, the ratio of the casino's net gaming revenue to your deposits showed a negative or close to it result. And since bonuses (actually a loss for the casino) are also taken into account when calculating net gaming revenue, they were canceled for you.
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Ever-young
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October 03, 2023, 06:03:35 PM |
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There intentions are to use the bonus to drag you to the casino in the means of chasing and trying to complete the bonus requirements you will lose your initial deposit to them and they will be the ones to record the winning. But in your case you happed to defeat them on their own game and have been able to complete all their bonus requirements causing them to lose money and you going home with more money, which don’t look fair to them looking at it in a business mindset, but from your own end it’s really cool as a good gambling you should be winning and making profit.
So to make things fair now, since you have proven to them that you are a good gambler, please gamble with only your money and let’s keep our bonus anything you win please take it as your reward for your gambling skill, but you see for the bonuses we don’t want to give that to you again. This is just what I figure out that the casino just did. In other to reduce the amount you win on a daily basis they have to remove all bonus offer you get from them for peace to reign.
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Hamphser
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October 03, 2023, 06:28:37 PM |
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This is my first time experiencing restrictions to a casino bonuses and other benefits for a loyal casino player. I become extremely lucky to this certain casino that makes me have a 20/20 winning percentage to all my deposit that ranging from 100% to 200% of my original deposit including the bonuses.
I'm expecting this restriction to happened to me since casino will surely doesn't allowed anyone consistently winning. I view this punishment as compliment since it's very rare to defeat a casino.
Playing without any VIP and bonus benefits on a casino is pretty dull because this feature gives player extra boost to our profitability. I decided to leave the casino and register to new one that gives me bonus. I'm just curious on why casino offer a bonus that they can't handle once user keeps winning using this. They can adjust the requirements to make it more competitive instead of removing all the benefits to user just because he keeps winning. It's not player problem if he is very lucky.
Sharing this experience to be an eye opener that we can't have a consistent profit on a casino without being restricted. Just enjoy the game and don't focus much on profit. In the end, I decided to just focus on trading and rest on gambling.
In this case, the casino logic is very simple and justified from a practical point of view. Initially, loyalty bonuses are provided for all new players (for example, freerolls), later VIP levels are established based on the amount of deposited funds. In your case, the ratio of the casino's net gaming revenue to your deposits showed a negative or close to it result. And since bonuses (actually a loss for the casino) are also taken into account when calculating net gaming revenue, they were canceled for you. Yes and this is how they would really be setting out those bar lines when it comes to their threshold on which it would really be just that normal that they would really be putting up those limits considering that it is really just that a business on which it would really be just so normal that whenever a certain player on their platform do really be able to hit up those lines then for sure restriction would really be that imposed after that and this is why it wont really be shocking that they would really be drawing out those bar lines or limitatins on which it would really be cancelling your bonuses or wouldnt really be able to get those things since they've seen that you are doing pretty well with your betting and seeing that it would really be a great danger if you do continue. This a business on which it would really be just that normal that they would really be setting out those kind of limits because it would greatly be affecting out their revenue if they would really just let it slide and make players do really continue.
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qwertyup23
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October 03, 2023, 06:37:22 PM |
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I really admire your perspective on winning, OP.
Generally, people view gambling as a money-making venture due to the potentials of winning that is involved. More importantly, lots of gambling players create various accounts on different gambling websites in order to maximize all the bonuses and rewards that are being offered. Also, some casinos offer loyalty bonuses to players who have reached a certain threshold of deposits for them to retain these players.
Very rarely do I encounter a post where a gambling company is stripping your bonuses due to winning so much. What I admire is that despite this move, you do not even feel bad about it because on how you view gambling, which is more of an entertainment rather than a money-making venture.
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tusandii
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October 03, 2023, 08:34:22 PM |
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As with another service I use, the situation is similar here in terms of casino bonuses, it is difficult to withdraw easily with the criteria that most players will lose more than they win. Maybe it's their own plan to attract users, but honestly it makes me more alert to not rush into casino bonuses. Most of us can easily click on promotional campaigns with familiar products, but if they are willing to reward, they can eliminate some really unreasonable procedures, but we are just gambling player.
Yes, you are right, I also said the same thing before, always be careful with promotions and always read whatever the rules are. In this scenario promotions don't seem to be to blame because they are one way to get more customers and it all comes back to the gambler who has to control his mind not to think that bonus promotions can be achieved easily and sometimes they can accidentally reach the conditions that have been determined and entitled to receive this bonus, usually scam casinos will still refuse to give promotional prizes because basically gambling never loses. Unless there are promotions that can be obtained easily without using any conditions but it is difficult to find gambling sites like this but there are several big casinos here that give bonuses to their customers only for the total bet amount and this can be achieved easily when having fun gambling by accident. bet increases and can get a $10 bonus.
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October 03, 2023, 09:00:45 PM |
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As with another service I use, the situation is similar here in terms of casino bonuses, it is difficult to withdraw easily with the criteria that most players will lose more than they win. Maybe it's their own plan to attract users, but honestly it makes me more alert to not rush into casino bonuses.
If that's the case then the casino is rigged. Crypto casinos/online casinos do have algorithm for their games, however it is uncontrollable meaning they cannot influence the result of every game - this is the case for fair playing casinos - it is such an accusation for a casino that is known for having many losing player than normal, around 40% to 50% I assume. Casino bonuses are made to attract players, not for them to lose but to have a web traffic and of course possible profit. At the end of the day, casinos do gamble with these bonuses. Most of us can easily click on promotional campaigns with familiar products, but if they are willing to reward, they can eliminate some really unreasonable procedures, but we are just gambling player.
Promotions should not have any connection with how the games should be played, hence if you could prove that there are casinos who makes bonuses to acquire money then that's something that should be look out for.
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October 03, 2023, 09:54:13 PM |
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If a casino does that then they are surely not among the transparent ones. If a player is winning then a trusted casinos would never take any action to stop those players in anyway and if a casino does that then that casino can't be trusted. I think playing without bonus is good for the players because all the bonuses come with their own terms and conditions and wagering requirements. A casino mostly give those bonuses to grab more and more money from the gamblers and they add wagering requirements because most of the times the gamblers aren't able to win that much and as a result they will lose the bonus money plus their deposited funds. I believe that most of the casinos will pose such restrictions for players who win a lot and basically win with the help of the bonuses. The reputed casinos won't do that but the less-reputed ones will always do that. Winning 100% of 20/20 bets is difficult - but it's true that the OP needs to avoid these casinos if he doesn't want to be considered a cheater when he manages to win something big. The casino may consider you cheating if you never fail to use the bonus to win - especially if the percentage is 100%. In fact I'm sure some casinos could do in-depth research on gamblers who win 100% of their deposit if they are able to win 20/20 bets. I know it's not fair - but realize some of them don't want you to win that much.
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kingvirtus09
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October 04, 2023, 05:54:56 AM |
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This is what I dislike most with casinos, such as this one is not worth using anymore, just change casinos with the same or similar service and try to replicate this luck you defined. Fine and good he can decided to check on alternative gambling platforms, but before doing so, the gambler too should also try every necessary steps to ensure that what happened from where he was coming from does not repeated itself with the new casino he's trying out, we also have some lapses that were as a result of the activities we do when using their platform which some are not permitted under their ToS. The moment I was reading what you wrote, I suspected that it might be your luck shining that caused this restriction, and lo and behold, you made mention of it. This is not a fair casino and it's not worth using since they cannot guarantee you the service others are benefiting.
It's still good that they didn't delay your withdrawal, after all, it's still about bonus denial, so you should weigh your options around it.
I don't think a reputable gambling organization will take such action without a cause, if you're eligible for any bonus they will give accordingly without any denial as long as you're not being suspected. So, based on what you said, you want to emphasize that OP was suspected by the casino, which is why he was immediately barred from participating in the gambling platform's tournament. The question is whether Op is aware that the casino platform on which he is playing suspects him. It's similar to the difficulties of that: you have no information that the casino is a suspect who is one of those who do evil things on their platform, but they are still open to you depositing money on their gaming platform, and still you considered it. On their platform, they treat you poorly or as offenders.
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arwin100
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October 04, 2023, 06:01:30 AM |
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This is what I dislike most with casinos, such as this one is not worth using anymore, just change casinos with the same or similar service and try to replicate this luck you defined. Fine and good he can decided to check on alternative gambling platforms, but before doing so, the gambler too should also try every necessary steps to ensure that what happened from where he was coming from does not repeated itself with the new casino he's trying out, we also have some lapses that were as a result of the activities we do when using their platform which some are not permitted under their ToS. The moment I was reading what you wrote, I suspected that it might be your luck shining that caused this restriction, and lo and behold, you made mention of it. This is not a fair casino and it's not worth using since they cannot guarantee you the service others are benefiting.
It's still good that they didn't delay your withdrawal, after all, it's still about bonus denial, so you should weigh your options around it.
I don't think a reputable gambling organization will take such action without a cause, if you're eligible for any bonus they will give accordingly without any denial as long as you're not being suspected. So, based on what you said, you want to emphasize that OP was suspected by the casino, which is why he was immediately barred from participating in the gambling platform's tournament. The question is whether Op is aware that the casino platform on which he is playing suspects him. It's similar to the difficulties of that: you have no information that the casino is a suspect who is one of those who do evil things on their platform, but they are still open to you depositing money on their gaming platform, and still you considered it. On their platform, they treat you poorly or as offenders. If he don't know if there's something like that happening maybe he should clarify it to them so he can justify for his self on why this casino taken out his opportunity to get a bonus from them. Its hard if this happen to anyone especially if you are legitimately playing using your own hard earned money. If that incident will happen to me I guess its better to go out on that casino since who knows they would provably put more heavier claims and stuck up our balance if they casino representative see him continuously winning. Maybe OP is playing on unreputable casino that's why they are just quick for deciding to take out what I maybe think OP deserve especially if he's spending a lot of money on the casino he plays.
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LUCKMCFLY
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October 04, 2023, 06:23:03 AM |
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I am on your side that if the casino can not give the bonuses then why offer them? If a player wins repeatedly then he cannot be blamed. And if he cannot be blamed then he must be given his benefits. But in this case, the casino has taken a crooked path instead of going straight, which is not right. It is not right that the casino will restrict a loyal player.
These things are what usually look bad in a casino, I don't know what casino it will be, but I have always seen that some casinos, in this case it is casino No. 2 and that I have seen that always do something nice so that I can retain the money of a Jaguar, from what I have seen is that they no longer offer him anything, but what did the Player abuse? well did he abuse the system? When it is said that they abuse the system, as I have said in previous threads, it is because obviously the system is not well programmed, because if it allows this type of things it is because things are not right, so what can be done in this case? blame the player? Maybe the player is actually to blame ? If in a casino that has been programmed by one or more programmers, if the player is allowed to do a particular thing, it is because he is allowed, otherwise whoever tries to do something improper, the casino platform does not allow it, it is logical, it's just what we can always do and see anywhere, but if the place allows it to be done and then they say that this was an abuse, they shouldn't say it like that, because they are saying that they have a sung return, so if they have that, What can you expect for security systems, for me it becomes a casino that is not worth it. I see it this way, this reminds me of some casinos that always imitated freebitco.in, especially in their faucet, when they were in a faucet, the players became multi-accounts and then the casino claimed that they were cheating, but that's not true. It was allowed, but then I was wondering, why do they allow multi-accounts to be created? Why didn't they foresee that this could be done and a restriction applied Once ? If it is because of IP or something like that, then that is a programming problem , that is becoming a vulnerability, if things happen like this only this Casino Becomes an easy Target for any hacker , it is not a lie , it is like that.
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EarnOnVictor
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October 04, 2023, 09:25:18 AM |
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This is what I dislike most with casinos, such as this one is not worth using anymore, just change casinos with the same or similar service and try to replicate this luck you defined. Fine and good he can decided to check on alternative gambling platforms, but before doing so, the gambler too should also try every necessary steps to ensure that what happened from where he was coming from does not repeated itself with the new casino he's trying out, we also have some lapses that were as a result of the activities we do when using their platform which some are not permitted under their ToS. The moment I was reading what you wrote, I suspected that it might be your luck shining that caused this restriction, and lo and behold, you made mention of it. This is not a fair casino and it's not worth using since they cannot guarantee you the service others are benefiting.
It's still good that they didn't delay your withdrawal, after all, it's still about bonus denial, so you should weigh your options around it.
I don't think a reputable gambling organization will take such action without a cause, if you're eligible for any bonus they will give accordingly without any denial as long as you're not being suspected. So, based on what you said, you want to emphasize that OP was suspected by the casino, which is why he was immediately barred from participating in the gambling platform's tournament. The question is whether Op is aware that the casino platform on which he is playing suspects him. It's similar to the difficulties of that: you have no information that the casino is a suspect who is one of those who do evil things on their platform, but they are still open to you depositing money on their gaming platform, and still you considered it. On their platform, they treat you poorly or as offenders. Can you hear yourself? You certainly have not shared any value at all, maybe you don't write if you don't have something valuable to say. A casino stopped you from their bonuses while others still enjoy it and also your style is good and the bonus is leverage to you and you still doubt this? Do you think this will happen if the guy is losing? Stopping a flourishing player from accessing their bonus should be proof that something is wrong, and to make it worse, they never disclosed the reason. When you are good, it's a risk to the house that you make more, while the bonus will increase the risk for them especially if you are the patient type that carefully utilizes the bonus effectively. And you think they will be happy with such a person? Or do you think it's normal, that they will just come out of the blues to bar the OP without being a threat to them and still not give any reason for their action? Wake up.
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Broadanbig
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October 04, 2023, 09:54:54 AM |
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Such casinos are not worth patronage if they could do this to a loyal member that has long been with them just for the fact that the member keeps winning back to back and they decided to restrict that member from bonus does not make any sense. It shows how shallow minded and weak of a casino they are. I understand that they are profit making venture but doing this could cost them their members if they do not realize that and already OP already said he left them and I believe any member here would do the same if they are in OPs position. OP it would be nice you mention the casino so we could take note because this is how they start before you know they would start banning and restricting many accounts and next thing is that they absconded with players funds and winnings.
OP i think your resolve in looking for another casino is absolutely the best because this they have done does not show any customer friendly relationship from them but instead a caution sign for one to take note of because anything can happen. These are the signs one needs to look for whenever a casino is beginning to act this way.It is either they are having challenges as it regards funds or otherwise.
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Coin_trader
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October 04, 2023, 10:08:23 AM |
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Such casinos are not worth patronage if they could do this to a loyal member that has long been with them just for the fact that the member keeps winning back to back and they decided to restrict that member from bonus does not make any sense.
Guess what, Almost all crypto casino can or will do this if you happened that you keep winning using their bonuses that’s why there’s a short line on their ToS that they have the right to exclude or terminate all existing bonuses on your account without further explanation. This is surely not professional for players but we don’t have a choice than to accept that not unless we have pending balance which casino is holding due this bonus win. This same scenario when casino ask as KYC despite they didn’t mention definite time when they will ask, It’s either still continue by following casino decision or just leave it.
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Dunamisx
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October 04, 2023, 10:20:15 AM |
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As with another service I use, the situation is similar here in terms of casino bonuses, it is difficult to withdraw easily with the criteria that most players will lose more than they win. Maybe it's their own plan to attract users, but honestly it makes me more alert to not rush into casino bonuses. Maybe we should just say it this way that most of the gamblers doesn't know the casinos intents for making bonus offers, this is not for every gambler to just register and claim them, withdraw and left, is that how business is been done, they will place some certain conditions as well for you to find it suitable for your stay with using their platform, thereby both of you get these benefits altogether. Most of us can easily click on promotional campaigns with familiar products, but if they are willing to reward, they can eliminate some really unreasonable procedures, but we are just gambling player.
In OP case, he was restricted and i believe he must have made a violation that lead to that decision from the casino or rather, he might have exhausted all the acrued bonuses assigned and remain ineligible for more participation, this also happens in some cases.
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