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October 03, 2023, 09:57:45 PM
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digaran-I am ignoring you because you are one of the many shitfaces here. I cannot respond to your stupidity.

If you ignore him, how do you know that he is not the one you need to talk to?
In fact, doesn't ignoring someone mean that you don't respond to their statements at all? You're confusing a bit here.

I have to agree with the feedback DaveF left on your account.  Huh

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October 03, 2023, 10:12:15 PM
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examplens-I am ignoring those chlurmcks by refusing to respond to the content of their posts, but since I am aware that they have posted, I will respond to the existence of the post without responding to the comment. I do this by telling those chlurmcks that they are shitheads. The reason you agree with shitheads is because you yourself are a shithead. Go play with your mother's left big toe.
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October 04, 2023, 11:45:53 AM
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PytagoraZ-"From the past until now the way to eat and drink is the same, the only difference is using a spoon, chopsticks or fork. And no one has ever complained that their way of eating hasn't kept up with developments in technology and AI"-That is a very weak argument. You have made a false analogy because spoons and forks have absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin. "Then just leave the bitcoin community, it seems like bitcoin will not be affected by anything about it."-May I not post on this forum? Or are you triggered?


From the past until now, people don't care about how to mine gold, the most important thing is getting gold. I think it doesn't matter whether bitcoin is advanced or not, but that people believe in bitcoin. You definitely know that everything that has value is based on trust, and that is the most important thing because bitcoin is value.

Today there are many altcoins or shitcoins that are methodically sophisticated but centralized and thus devoid of trust. From the past until now, freedom is an expensive value

Yes, you are entitled to say whatever you want about bitcoin here or anywhere, I have no problem with that. Apart from that most people out there don't know and don't care about Bitcoin  Wink

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The Bitcoin has a lot of resources being used for mining, so those resources should be used for a good purpose.
That's your opinion which has nothing to do with why Bitcoin was created. Read the whitepaper to learn more. Mining is essential to record new transactions and improve the network's security. It's a hard money that requires electricity and expensive hardware, setting it apart from other unsound types of money. 

And I want nothing to do with this network.
You are free to leave any time you want. Have you seen the name of this forum? It's called Bitcointalk. It's obviously not a place you should be spending time on. 

The public is fucking stupid.
Did you learn that studying for your PhD?

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October 04, 2023, 03:41:18 PM
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Trolls only want attention and reactions, please avoid responding to their post is the best solution, let them alone, basically Don't Engage

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ETFbitcoin-"Few thread could be defined like that."-That is not grammatically correct. Try again.

"I see. Anyway, Primecoin isn't only cryptocurrency which use proof of useful work (PoUW). Take note i simply use term people usually use and whether it's actually useful or not depends on each person."-Now you are dissing on objectivity and sound judgment?

"That's weird statement when cryptocurrency bring many new scientific research where some of them recognized by cryptocurrency community. An example, http://web.archive.org/web/20220412122303/http://cs-people.bu.edu/heilman/eclipse/."-Oh. The great Boston University. That University in Boston with a bio-safety level 4 laboratory that does not implement adequate bio-safety standards. I am not judging the Bitcoin community for their information security. I am judging them because Bitcoin has a mining algorithm that was never designed to advance science.

"I do not understand how that supposed to be used as identity verification."-If you want me to give more verification, then please tell me on this forum who you are? If you are not willing to do this, then shut the fuck up.

PytagoraZ-Bitcoin may be more closely related to gold than Bitcoin is to silverware, but your analogy still needs work. I am not talking about replacing mining with a system built on trust. I really do not want that. Besides, it is easy to build a system on trust, but it is hard to make it trust free. I am not willing to compromise any of the cryptographic properties that Bitcoin mining has in order to solve a scientific problem because that would be way too easy. We need to both solve the scientific problem and secure the network with mining.

Pmalek-

"That's your opinion which has nothing to do with why Bitcoin was created."-That is a fucked up excuse to waste energy.

"Read the whitepaper to learn more."-I already read the whitepaper. Have you?

"Mining is essential to record new transactions and improve the network's security. It's a hard money that requires electricity and expensive hardware, setting it apart from other unsound types of money."-You forgot about the issue where the mining is not used to solve any scientific problem so Bitcoin attracts a whole bunch of really dumb people, and the few smart people are not interested in this shitshow.

"You are free to leave any time you want. Have you seen the name of this forum? It's called Bitcointalk. It's obviously not a place you should be spending time on."-Yes. This is Bitcointalk. And here we criticize Bitcoin. If we are not allowed to criticize Bitcoin here, then this is a cult.

"Did you learn that studying for your PhD?"-Yes. When I was studying for my Ph.D., I learned about how fucking stupid most people are. But after I got my Ph.D., I became more and more enlightened about how nearly everyone knows absolutely nothing and is a worthless pile of trash.

albert0bsd-You clearly do not have any rebuttal to what I am saying so you are just closing your ears and saying I AM NOT LISTENING. UH BUH BUH BUH. UH BUH BUH BUH. UH BUH BUH BUH. That is anti-intellectual.

"In the long run this users will become a zero on the left"-'users' should be singular you stupid ass moron. And please end your sentence with a period.

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PytagoraZ-Bitcoin may be more closely related to gold than Bitcoin is to silverware, but your analogy still needs work. I am not talking about replacing mining with a system built on trust. I really do not want that. Besides, it is easy to build a system on trust, but it is hard to make it trust free. I am not willing to compromise any of the cryptographic properties that Bitcoin mining has in order to solve a scientific problem because that would be way too easy. We need to both solve the scientific problem and secure the network with mining.


The point is, you already know what I'm analogizing and it seems like I don't need to add any more analogies to strengthen my argument. You also know that Bitcoin is actually just ordinary, but why is it so popular and trusted by so many people? Maybe because of the vision of "freedom" that bitcoin has and as an opposition to the fiat system.

If you have a new thought or idea, make it have value. However, the public will know whether this value has hidden interests or not. That goes for altcoins, they talk about decentralization but they are centralized so the freedom is abstract and pseudo.

I think the concept you built by belittling and harshly criticizing bitcoin did not have a positive effect on you because before you there were many more people who did this and none of them succeeded. This is the same as many parties who criticize the fiat system, but up to now fiat is still very strong. So? Never mind, you are free to say whatever you want and no one will stop you here. Welcome to freedom of speech

- I know very little about the general overview of bitcoin, technically and cryptographically I know nothing
- My English is also bad, I hope my writing can be read

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Feel free to stay local to your constantly devalued fiat currency or create a shitcoin in an attempt to make yourself rich and see if anyone cares. Sure, you are welcome to criticize Bitcoin, and having a different view from the rest is okay. But no one is going to pay any attention to your moronic Bitcoin mining doesn't improve science claims and telling everyone they are against science. I think I will follow albert0bsd's advice and just ignore you from now on. I won't even bother to put you on my ignore list, I will just stop replying to you and suggest other members to do the same. Then you can talk to yourself and be forgotten.

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PytagoraZ-It is best not to make any analogies when making a case for why something should be the way it is. Bitcoin is not gold.


I care about the freedom of using cryptocurrency mining to solve the most important scientific problem. Bitcoin does not give me this freedom.

"If you have a new thought or idea, make it have value. However, the public will know whether this value has hidden interests or not."-The public is full of shit. The public knows absolutely nothing. They will fall for literally anything. Why do you think that everyone worshipped Sam Bankman Fried so much?

"I think the concept you built by belittling and harshly criticizing bitcoin did not have a positive effect on you because before you there were many more people who did this and none of them succeeded."-Sorry. I will criticize anyone who deserves criticism.

"This is the same as many parties who criticize the fiat system, but up to now fiat is still very strong."-This is because most people are bitches who just accept Fiat because they have been scammed. But whenever I go to the grocery store to buy shit, I always inform the clerk that the fiat money is racist with racist images of slave owners who sexually abused their slaves (well, at least in the USA). I also inform people everywhere I go that they need to hand over their racist fiat money to me so that I can dispose of it properly, and if they don't hand over their fiat money, then they are racist racists.

"- I know very little about the general overview of bitcoin, technically and cryptographically I know nothing"-You can start with the Bitcoin whitepaper and a description of SHA-256,Merkle trees, and digital signatures.

Pmalek-"Feel free to stay local to your constantly devalued fiat currency or create a shitcoin in an attempt to make yourself rich and see if anyone cares."-Well, I have also tried to make sure that biological laboratories implement proper safety standards so that they don't release another bug that will wreck billions of people. And nobody cares about that either because most people are stupid and worthless fucking pieces of shit.

"I think I will follow albert0bsd's advice and just ignore you from now on."-I will do the same because you are a shithead.

"Then you can talk to yourself and be forgotten."-Yes. And biological laboratories will also forget about safety standards so that fuckers like you perish in the next pandemic.
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Trolls only want attention and reactions, please avoid responding to their post is the best solution, let them alone, basically Don't Engage

Just Add this user to the ignore list



In the long run this users will become a zero on the left

To be honest, the worst case scenario is not actually this user being a troll or just doing this for the sake of amusement (like many do on the internet). If there is something I have learn through years posting around here and other places, is how people with actual behavioral or psychological struggles can act up in communities like this one.  So I am leaning on the option of this person being someone who actually needs to get off internet and talk to someone who can help.
It has been repeatedly told to him he is being irrational and he is supposed to not engage here if he feels mad, but won't listen. He even told me he does not have anyone who can talk to irl, that could be taken as a signal of actual problems...

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October 15, 2023, 07:35:47 PM
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This means that the entire cryptocurrency community cannot be trusted with anything because they reject science and reasoning. I have had enough of this madness.

Why did you join the community that can never be trusted at the first place?
Like I understand people always join a community they finds interest and trusted maybe, seen some reliability before joining them but, if you would come here to say is not a trusted place then I don't think you know the reason of being here if not for knowledge and interest.
Though everyone with the way the understand the forum and bitcoin including altcoin, and I don't mind saying that is your level of knowledge so you need to learn more and advanced more for you to know the whole concept.

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The purpose of this board have hundred of good and valid reasons to be here i am sure of!
In my two months here I seen a lot of drama that have nothing to do with crypto, it's more or less some members that don't get along and choose to make their arguing here, I don't say it's wrong or right its up to them.
But what they could do instead is maybe call each other on Skype or something and solve your problems in private and end up as friends instead or just block each other that what I recommend, but that is not up to me to decide, they also have the right to use this board as they please.  Smiley

Here is some examples why I think it's a good idea for this board to exist if anyone cares.


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But a Reputation board is almost vital, let me explain why imagine if a new person come in here and create his account, and he don't know everyone here yet, same as nobody know him.
And after a week or two he gonna do a trade or something with a user that been here much longer then him and if that user got none or very little feedback this board is so good!
Because the user that been here long time probably is not a scammer, but it's hard to tell if the feedback wall is empty.
Then you can go here, search or read yourself if he has any reputation here.


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You doing a deal with someone and the deal don't turn out good at all, BUT he did not scam you, but he was not kind, and paid late.. or whatever it could be.
Then you can post it here so people on the forum know about it. (of course you could also leave feedback on his profile, but if you make a post here maybe he could explain why it happen instead of counter-feedback you)


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If you find a website on the internet that sells crypto and you want to buy it from them but you are a bit unsure if they are legit or not, open a thread here and ask the community and I promise you that you will get enough answers to make a decision! But still, the decision should be made by you and your own research, here can you just add more information to your research, don't take anything people say here for granted.
I don't say people lie here, but people maybe have wrong information or outdated information.


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If you have bad feeling about a user about the forum, but he hasn't scam anyone but maybe you think he will do so?
So it's kinda hard to know what to do, right? Posting feedback on his/hers profile maybe is wrong?
But what you can do is, you post a thread in this board, you explain as good as possible what have happen and why you think as you do, you do it friendly with respect because you are not sure about the other person, you just have a feeling, then you letting other users be aware of it, and give the user a chance to explain himself, and if you where wrong you just apologize and lock the thread and remove the first post you did and change it to something else like "Solved. I was wrong sorry CryptoKing" if CryptoKing was his name here, it was just an example.


And don't lets forget all these helpful souls that making this threads for us all to visit and find information! Good and solid threads that is perfect to have in a forum like this.

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Sorry if i missed someone, I am sure it's many more similiar good threads, I just checked the first page.


This was only a few examples that I think fit's in this board, and I am sure its hundreds of hundreds more good reasons for this board to exist! Cheers buddie.  Cool

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October 16, 2023, 06:38:44 AM
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Snip, snip, snip....
Informative and cool story, I'm sure if OP wasn't banned he would have sent a few juicy cusses your way. 🤣

But I like the way you expect the trust/reputation system to work, that's not gonna happen. This is a free zone where you can do anything, only if you kiss the ring of certain individuals first, then you are packed for life.  This board is just a facade to make things legit.

When you see the door for gaming the system open and do nothing, you'll end up looking like a joke.

Though to be fair, we can use this board to reveal a few things for the public, but everyone here is looking for more money, they don't have the time for the "truth", so at the very least we can use this board to enlighten those interested in the truth.  Well this became too philosophical. Lol.

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October 16, 2023, 04:54:49 PM
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Informative and cool story, I'm sure if OP wasn't banned he would have sent a few juicy cusses your way. 🤣

I've seen this many times. OP started the discussion maybe even in a slightly aggressive way. However, despite the fact that a lot of good comments and explanations appeared here, I did not see that the OP continued to participate in the on-topic discussion.
Then I would ask the question, why does someone start a discussion at all if he is not interested in the opinions of other members?

Also, why is it difficult to accept the fact that the Bitcointalk forum is a platform for discussion, and sharing of opinions and information, not some kind of monster that eats people?

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I've seen this many times. OP started the discussion maybe even in a slightly aggressive way. However, despite the fact that a lot of good comments and explanations appeared here, I did not see that the OP continued to participate in the on-topic discussion.
Then I would ask the question, why does someone start a discussion at all if he is not interested in the opinions of other members?
Probably because he expects it be one-sided. Or better yet, he doesn't think there's any sense that could be made of his useless ramblings that's why when someone does and tries to set him straight, he goes on a word slaughter. I think he relishes being the sole authority.
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Also, why is it difficult to accept the fact that the Bitcointalk forum is a platform for discussion, and sharing of opinions and information, not some kind of monster that eats people?
It's quite simple. With his narrow minded way of thinking, its hard to see past plain things and even when they are explained (which are unnecessary sometimes), he still stands by his ideas. And the most annoying part is, he'd bring up a very abstract theory to buttress his point and would expect you to believe it. Well, too bad I'm amongst those who see the forum as a place for sharing and receiving information which also has rules that are not meant to strangle its users. Grin

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October 18, 2023, 02:47:19 PM
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Hispo-Actually, the worst case scenario (which is actually the correct scenario) is that I am right about everything and that you along with all the other chlurmcks on this site are completely and totally lacking in all sanity. Not only are the people here insane, but they are also exceedingly angry and hateful. You think I am irrational, so I must ignore you from now on. This means that in order to communicate with me, someone who I did not ignore yet needs to quote you. If you consistently say something intelligent and people consistently quote you, I may unignore you. Your intense hatred is consuming you. You are evil. You are worthless.

The reason I can't talk to people in real-life about this stuff is that people are just as @#$%ed up in real life and I really do not want to talk to @#$%ed up people unless I have to. Friends do not exist.

SmartGold01-Most people are @#$%ing insane and their bodies are a waste of meat. I am in this community because I have things to say here. But people are too @#$%ed up to listen.

". . . I don't mind saying that is your level of knowledge so you need to learn more and advanced more for you to know the whole concept."-You know nothing. You therefore cannot tell me what I do or do not know.

BabyBandit-"But a Reputation board is almost vital, let me explain why imagine if a new person come in here and create his account, and he don't know everyone here yet, same as nobody know him."-On this site, people should trust nobody. Anyone who trusts people on this site is a chlurmck. This means that this board is useless because we should not be trusting each other. I do not want to hear the opinion from untrustworthy and evil people about who to trust. Those opinions are unsubstantiated rumors and should just be ignored. I do not do deals with people. I assume that the people here are scammers and chlurmcks because they know nothing.

"If you have bad feeling about a user about the forum, but he hasn't scam anyone but maybe you think he will do so?"-The people here are all dishonest chlurmcks who know nothing, always lie, and have absolutely nothing of value to say.

digaran-I am still ignoring you, so I will only talk to you if someone quotes you.

examplens-Thank you for quoting digaran so that I can now talk to him. Yes. I cuss at people because they are @#$%ed up.

"Then I would ask the question, why does someone start a discussion at all if he is not interested in the opinions of other members?"-This is because I have nothing to learn from you, but the chlurmcks here have a lot to learn from me. But they cannot learn anything from me because they are completely and utterly incapable of learning anything of value.

"Also, why is it difficult to accept the fact that the Bitcointalk forum is a platform for discussion, and sharing of opinions and information, not some kind of monster that eats people?"-Don't say that the people here are not monsters. You should instead act in a manner that is not monstrous.

Majestic-milf-"Probably because he expects it be one-sided."-You have a lot that you can learn from me, but there is absolutely nothing I can learn from you.

"Or better yet, he doesn't think there's any sense that could be made of his useless ramblings that's why when someone does and tries to set him straight, he goes on a word slaughter."-How can you set me straight if you know nothing?

"I think he relishes being the sole authority."-Well, I am the only one here who realizes that science is actually a thing.

"It's quite simple. With his narrow minded way of thinking, its hard to see past plain things and even when they are explained (which are unnecessary sometimes), he still stands by his ideas."-You do not care about any ideas because you are an anti-intellectual.

"And the most annoying part is, he'd bring up a very abstract theory to buttress his point and would expect you to believe it."-You hate science and mathematics because you lack intelligence. You are worthless.

"Well, too bad I'm amongst those who see the forum as a place for sharing and receiving information which also has rules that are not meant to strangle its users."-How can you tell which information is valuable if you hate science, intelligence, and reasoning so much?

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October 18, 2023, 03:43:43 PM
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Look doc, I know you were banned for a week or so, that should have some meaning, I also know anyone interacting with you will have the same opinion and that is, you are either insane, or just enjoy trolling.
More you continue like this the more isolated you will become. Few month ago I asked you to come and join us in solving 1000 BTC puzzle challenge, if you are really a scientist, but you refused or you might have participated with an alt account.


What I'm trying to say, you should accept your fate, the coin you developed didn't work the way you intended, get over it and try to do something different, join me in breaking elliptic curve cryptography and receive a prize worth more than a nobel prize.
So what do you say? Are you really a scientist/mathematician or just a meth-matician?
Visit this link and prove your self not to this community, but to the world.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.0
Enough of your empty words about intelligence, time to prove yourself with actions.

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October 18, 2023, 04:09:24 PM
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digaran-Sorry. I cannot respond to your @#$%shit because you are being ignored. You will need someone to quote you.
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October 18, 2023, 07:48:10 PM
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You will need someone to quote you.

If you already know about "quote" when discussing here, why don't you use that way when you reply to someone? What you wrote in your previous post is completely confusing and is very hard to read.

If you are already bitter about this forum and the people here, don't make it clear why you are still struggling here. Isn't it the best solution for you to set the entire bicointalk.org domain with all the fuckers on it to ignore? Besides ignoring digaran, you still had to come and address him, this shows your certain masochistic tendencies.

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October 18, 2023, 08:24:33 PM
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examplens-This forum is full of horrible heinous people. They are harassers. They are worthless. There is nothing with what I wrote in the previous post.

"Besides ignoring digaran, you still had to come and address him, this shows your certain masochistic tendencies."-You are a horrible worthless bag of scum. I am going to put you on ignore too because you have been consumed by evil as well. digaran is a harasser. That is all it is good for. digaran has nothing to say. It should be banned from this site. It is pure evil. It worships Hitler and Satan.
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