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February 23, 2024, 10:42:01 PM
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We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
To me, oil can play an important role in the economic power of a country, although agriculture will play a much more important role in that regard. Even if a country is not agricultural, it can be managed by trade from unique countries if that country has enough money to supply. If my country has enough oil resources, I can sell that oil to feed my country, but if my country does not have oil, I will not be able to do any work. So oil has essential important role in all fields of energy agriculture system also oil plays a very important role in economic importance.

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February 24, 2024, 01:15:38 AM
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Today's development in agriculture would not have been possible if the mechanical revolution had not taken place.
Due to the mechanized revolution in agriculture, the production of agriculture has become possible many times more than what it was before.
Without oil, the mechanical revolution would never have been possible. So oil machining and agriculture are interrelated.
Both oil and agriculture must be sustained if you want to sustain the current civilization. Both oil and agriculture are important and valuable to modern civilization.
From this point of view, it is not possible to go either side of agriculture or oil.

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February 24, 2024, 11:41:41 AM
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Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Mate it's the 21 century, we can't really be having this argument, agriculture is a major part of a countries economy if its been used properly and by now you know that normal agriculture without using modernised machined is much slower and the work rate would be high making it an unprofitable sector for business men, in or current world power in term of electricity is one the most important thigns cause every other sector now largely depends on it for productivity, and oil continues to be a major source of power cause its by products are used as chemical fuels, how would the agricultural sector even thrive and be able to produce food on a large scale with using machinery which later depends on oil, even other sector like development and technology still depends on oil, transportation still depends on oil especially large machines that needs high supply of power like airplanes, ships and all the rest.

With electricity many other sectors would reduce in productivity and that is fact.

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February 25, 2024, 10:39:03 AM
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We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

In case you have a steady income from high value commodities like oil then you don't have to worry about your agricultural sector. You will always find a country that is willing to sell your food for the right price. Even though many industries are trying to get away from oil to be more environmentally friendly, there is no way that the world is going to abandon the use of oil and fuel any time soon. Countries like in the Middle East that get the oil almost for free, just by opening up the Earth will always be competitive to sell their oil on the world market. It also doesn't really make sense to make large agricultural sectors in the desert with a small population. Better to let countries where the climate is much better to do it and then just export it. The problem with agriculture is that it's labour intensive and highly competitive. In western countries with high labour cost, it's almost impossible to have a competitive agricultural sector. Better to focus on the things where your country is competitive and have a small subsidized agricultural sector.
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February 25, 2024, 03:54:52 PM
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Is it really necessary to fight agriculture and oil? because they have the same benefits that are given to every country in the whole world, it's just real talk, This is just my guess.
As in agriculture, it is necessary for human survival, and besides that it also provides renewable resources.

Whereas oil can provide help through energy sources and technological advancement, although they also have challenges that can be faced.



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February 26, 2024, 07:21:02 AM
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Is it really necessary to fight agriculture and oil? because they have the same benefits that are given to every country in the whole world, it's just real talk, This is just my guess.
As in agriculture, it is necessary for human survival, and besides that it also provides renewable resources.

Whereas oil can provide help through energy sources and technological advancement, although they also have challenges that can be faced.
Both are equally important for the continuity of human life, mutually necessary and inseparable. It is clear that you really have the benefits that are needed now and in the future.
But petroleum oil will always have limits and will be used up. Who knows when, but it will definitely happen. Apart from that, the effects of its use are very polluting and not good. That's why we need a replacement that is environmentally friendly and alternatives can be found. However, agriculture will always be needed throughout time and cannot possibly be replaced because the necessities of life must remain available to humans.

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February 26, 2024, 03:52:50 PM
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We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Oil is a commodity, but Food is a basic necessity.

Countries like China and Thailand who were once purely agricultural countries 10-15 years ago were now massive powerhouses who are able to carry the whole world's economy and produce section under their shoulders. Why? Food export at the start and then diversifying your ventures later on. China did that in the past, once they got the proper channels taken care of they switched to factory work and production, eventually they also took the field of the Internet of Things and made their very own versions of websites that are available outside their country anyway to further seclude the country within this bubble that they have formed. Albeit it eventually backed fire against them, the whole ordeal made them fucking rich and had it not been for the mishaps of their massive tycoons they would've remained in their seat of power these years.

On the other hand Oil is what made the Middle East exceptionally rich and martially powerful all these years, I mean that's why the US became suckups to the Arabs all these decades. But we're slowly shifting towards renewable sources of production, and last I checked people will still need to eat food for the next hundred or thousand years onwards. So yeah, Agriculture all the way for me. Both solve a problem and both are heavily required in our current setting, but food will remain a need of the people and the planet forever, Oil will not.

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March 24, 2024, 06:37:21 AM
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Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Mate it's the 21 century, we can't really be having this argument, agriculture is a major part of a countries economy if its been used properly and by now you know that normal agriculture without using modernised machined is much slower and the work rate would be high making it an unprofitable sector for business men, in or current world power in term of electricity is one the most important thigns cause every other sector now largely depends on it for productivity, and oil continues to be a major source of power cause its by products are used as chemical fuels, how would the agricultural sector even thrive and be able to produce food on a large scale with using machinery which later depends on oil, even other sector like development and technology still depends on oil, transportation still depends on oil especially large machines that needs high supply of power like airplanes, ships and all the rest.

With electricity many other sectors would reduce in productivity and that is fact.
I fully agree with your argument that there is no justification for making a distinction between oil and agriculture in the current context. In today's competitive and progressive world market oil and agricultural products are interrelated like tea and sugar.
According to the results of the co-integration tests and Granger's causality tests there is no causal relationship between world oil prices and agricultural products. However their experimental analysis shows that the correlation between agricultural products and world oil prices is between 1% and 5%.
Now it is said that there is a slight price difference and whether or not there is without oil it is almost impossible to produce and market that product with the current modern agricultural technology or the production cannot be increased in any way.

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March 24, 2024, 06:49:14 AM
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Agriculture provides food to people whereas oil is a commodity that we need so in this case agriculture is more important than oil.

For me there is no difference or distinction between oil and agriculture. Just as oil provides money to a country, agriculture also provides money to a country, so we have no reason to differentiate between the two. There are different types of edible oils that are produced through agriculture around the world. These edible oil producing countries meet the demand of oil in their country and export it to other countries as a result of which they earn remittances from abroad.

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March 24, 2024, 07:53:35 AM
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Both are important but i think oil is way important. You can grow basic food almost anywhere. Potatoes for example, they grow very fast and easy and we consume them every day. There are also greenhouse products. This tech lets you grow anything anywhere. Let’s just say, if you invest enough time and money, you can grow your own food but if you don’t have oil, you can‘t grow it no matter how hard you try. You can only buy it from somebody else. Oil and gas are the most important energy sources. Without them the civilization would collapse.

Tldr; oil > agri
Currently, Japan is one of the best agricultural countries in the world, they have used advanced technological tools to process their agricultural land, Japan also has high creativity, but they do not have large areas of land, unlike Indonesia, the land area is not comparable to Other agricultural production countries will, however, Indonesia is very far behind in the way of agricultural processing so that a lot of empty land is just left like that. Currently, with advances in technology, the country can boost the people's economy through agriculture so that they don't have to work in industry and mining. What is important when focusing on agriculture is willingness. good water or irrigation

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March 24, 2024, 11:20:07 AM
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Agriculture provides food to people whereas oil is a commodity that we need so in this case agriculture is more important than oil.

For me there is no difference or distinction between oil and agriculture. Just as oil provides money to a country, agriculture also provides money to a country, so we have no reason to differentiate between the two. There are different types of edible oils that are produced through agriculture around the world. These edible oil producing countries meet the demand of oil in their country and export it to other countries as a result of which they earn remittances from abroad.
It is true that these two things will certainly be able to provide income for every country that can manage them well and for countries that can manage these two things it will certainly make them a prosperous country and people will be able to live their lives without having problems in the economic sector. It is very important to be able to manage these two things in order to run a good economic system so that people do not have problems in terms of their economy.

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We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

There are many that depend on agriculture for their food or their economy.  For example, if 95% of people in Bangladesh work and they are dependent on agriculture because if they do not work or they do not collect food, they will reduce their food dependence and they will die for food.  If you look in Bangladesh, there is no such thing, but their economy is fairly good depending on the economy, not only on the economy, but on the workers of our factories in Bangladesh.  But in that case if you notice Qatar Qatar but they've come a long way in developing their oil fields because they've exploited them and they've been so dependent on oil they've gone so far that they've used them and exported all over the world.  In that case, the economy of Bangladesh, which is mostly dependent on mining or any other means, like agriculture, as well as oil and agriculture in Qatar, will need two economies.
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March 24, 2024, 05:36:05 PM
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Is it really necessary to fight agriculture and oil? because they have the same benefits that are given to every country in the whole world, it's just real talk, This is just my guess.
As in agriculture, it is necessary for human survival, and besides that it also provides renewable resources.

Whereas oil can provide help through energy sources and technological advancement, although they also have challenges that can be faced.

 They are some countries that solely depends on their agricultural produce for international trades, Malaysia is one country, they built their country with the exportation of palm fruits and other resources too, In as much as oil is seen as a bigger money compared to the agricultural production, It still serve its purpose and is still very important to the world. Agricultural Economics is important because it uses the principles of Economics to understand and solve the problems of agriculture sector. Its micro theories provide answer to questions of farmers like what to produce, how to produce and how much to produce. It tells him about farm planning and budgeting and provide optimal combinations of farming and allied activities to maximize his profits. The macro aspect of Agriculture Economics is important to understand growth and development related aspects, econometric models for policy analysis, national and international trade and natural resource economics. It is a subject related to your day to day news, it makes you understand that most of the political decisions have hidden economic agendas at its base. it makes you aware why people are doing what they are doing. In short it makes you understand life.
   Oil is not about to disappear and there is plenty of it for centuries to come. I don’t think oil production will collapse anytime soon, and by the time it does I think we’ll have new sources of energy. If it would collapse the effect on agriculture would be devastating, at least in the U.S. and other Western nations. Everything from fertilizer, to pesticides, to equipment needs petroleum to exist, and without them production would plummet. And if we they should cease to farm, they will be starvation in the globe. I think every industry is interdependent to each other, each has their importance and effects too.
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Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
agriculture plays it own unique role in improving the growth of a nation and oil has it own function also. Regardless of how rich a nation is in terms of the available oil that's in their desposition, you can't rely only on oil. Producing local agricultural product helps a lot in ensuring that a nation is dependent on themselves and less on others.

If your soil isn't all that fertile to support agro produce, with your oil it's easy to relate with other nation and get some of thier resources from the money you get from the sales of the crude oil. Every resource that a nation has is as important as the other and they are necessary for the effective working and harnessing of the full economic potential of a nation.

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Malaysia also has tourism as well, many do have additional possibilities in their economy besides agriculture.  The most obvious benefit to agriculture is to cut imports or a requirement for reliance on other nations for basic needs of the population.   Malaysia has technology its not nearly an agrarian economy as that perspective would suggest, I think they have many options available for growth within their economic sectors not just one choice which is dangerous if you think about.
  I know someone from Malaysia who works in telecoms for a Japanese firm who are desperate for staff, reason being they are fully capable of fluent formal Japanese speech with customers and that made their labor available internationally through their skills.

Farming crops can fail and over reliance is a dangerous prospect for an entire nation to face as history would reflect.   In the example I gave Malaysia is exporting its labor and Japan has a requirement to import that skilled labor quite often as they famously have a skewed demographic and falling working population.   Not everyone knows this is also true of even China who will suffer consequences of less workers every year, this will alter their economy.

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March 25, 2024, 03:16:51 AM
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Both of them are important atleast for now hahhaha there are so much product that derived from OIL and deal with it that we all depend on this black gold no matter what.

Tho Agriculture is highly important like you have said before because we all need food etc but if I am the government Im also gonna see this sector because oil itseft is not sustainable for the future but food always need in the future so money from the Black Gold gonna use it for research in agriculture

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March 26, 2024, 07:10:31 AM
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Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
agriculture plays it own unique role in improving the growth of a nation and oil has it own function also. Regardless of how rich a nation is in terms of the available oil that's in their desposition, you can't rely only on oil. Producing local agricultural product helps a lot in ensuring that a nation is dependent on themselves and less on others.

If your soil isn't all that fertile to support agro produce, with your oil it's easy to relate with other nation and get some of thier resources from the money you get from the sales of the crude oil. Every resource that a nation has is as important as the other and they are necessary for the effective working and harnessing of the full economic potential of a nation.

It may not be right to choose just one. All resources for a country should be complementary, that is, income should be provided from both agriculture and oil and this income should be permanent. Each resource has its own unique function.

As you said, every resource is important for a nation to use its economic potential. The most important issue is the effective use of these resources and obtaining benefits as a result of this use.

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We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.
In fact, people in countries with larger oil producers do not ignore other local natural resources, but they only care more about the potential for greater income, so they no longer care about income through agriculture. But that doesn't mean they will eliminate agriculture in their own country because they will still look at this sector even if only to meet their needs because the income sector already exists through oil resources.

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But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .
The agricultural sector is indeed a very important sector for all countries because it is related to the issue of food and the daily needs consumed by all people. But other sectors such as oil natural resources also need to be considered to make the country's income bigger and more advanced. You can look at the oil producing countries in the world which on average can become more developed, and do not experience excessive difficulties in other economic sectors such as agriculture.

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No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.
That is quite logical, but countries that have progressed through oil resources can also use small areas of land for agriculture even though the state is not so focused on their own agricultural products because perhaps the government has its own way of making sure that the country does not experience difficulties in agricultural sector.
Agriculture and oil are two things that cannot be separated, in this case palm oil, like in Indonesia, the palm oil industry has a very large and important role in growing the community's economy. So every year there is diplomacy with developed countries to encourage the price of agricultural products in Indonesia, especially oil, to be purchased at high prices. This opportunity continues to be exploited by farmers.so that there is sustainability throughout the international world, advanced agriculture, happy society

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March 26, 2024, 08:38:52 AM
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As it stands right now I believe oil has the upper hand in this argument though I don’t think it will remain so in the future, Speaking from the angle of futuristic development. I believe the world as a global village is gradually shifting away from oil as a source of energy to more sustainable sources like solar and electricity.

I can also see this futuristic development affecting the agricultural industry positively cause everyday more and more companies and countries are investing and advancing in developing the robotics industry, this will also affect the oil sector because robots don’t run on oil although it will lead to more agricultural production so I believe in some years to come agriculture will surpass oil.
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Today's world without oil would be challenging for a moment. And the use of oil in agriculture has ushered in a revolutionary chapter. It is because of this demand for oil that the global energy competition is going on around it.
Agriculture for food production, and oil for agriculture, each element is closely related to each other. Without oil, agricultural production would be greatly reduced. Likewise, if agricultural production declines, food shortages may occur throughout the world.
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