Should Merit-Sources send merit based on their feelings or quality of the post?

[_BlackStar]

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I totally agree with you here, they should and can and give sMerits to whoever they fell deserve it and I think they all doing a great job.

Since you have drawn the correct conclusion - then you should immediately lock this thread rather than leaving it open any longer.

Merit source are a voluntary task – but they have full rights to the source they have and are not prohibited from giving them to whom and in what rank. The main thing expected from a merit system is an increase in the quality of posts - so it is advisable to distribute them to quality posts regardless of who created them.

[BabyBandit]

Since you have drawn the correct conclusion - then you should immediately lock this thread rather than leaving it open any longer.

Absolutely not.

[Woodie]

Hey! I was thinking of something this night, this thing about merits and the merit-sources. If you are a merit-source, should you always give away merit to good posts even if you dislike the user that created the post?
Or are you allowed to be controlled by your feelings and only give away merit to people you like or don't know?

The brutal truth is if they don't like you, then chances are slim of receiving any from such sources

Besides the only way around this is to try to make yourself visible to be noticed by the merit sources, but it gets ugly if he/she puts you on their ignore list meaning whatever meritable content you put out there won't be seen and you can not complain of any foul play as merit-sources have the discretion to send merit(s) to whoever they think is deserving!!

It's a different a user can give merit to whoever he wants, because it's his/hers own merit and they can do whatever they want with it. But a merit-source how should he act? Without feelings or with feelings?

Naturally, this service to the forum should be done without feelings but being humans we are prone to mixed emotions !!!

Btw You make this sound like a job of which they need to go through all threads to find all these good posts, which is unrealistic as everyone has a life away from the forum.

I don't trying to blame anyone, or create any drama and I am not disappointed with my low merits, I am quite happy and proud that I already got ten merit and being a member rank, so I am in no rush what so ever to rank up, I actually love the farming and the journey, because when and if I reach Legendary nobody can say I didn't earn it the right way.

Nothing tastes better than the fruit of your hard work, good luck BabyBandit.

[Pmalek]

Actually, it's not a bad question. And everyone approaches it differently. I doubt there will be that many people who merit those they don't like or are in a conflict with. If you compare it with a real-life scenario, you wouldn't be spending time with or going out with those you don't like.

Being completely objective is a plus, but hard to achieve. I wouldn't say that there is a spotlight on merit sources, but their merit distribution is easier to spot since there is much more of it. It's possible that a person might ask themselves, should I really merit this user? They are such a controversial and negative figure. Or, what will other people think if they see me merit this person?

There aren't many rules about merit distribution for merit sources, so everyone has their own modus operandi. If I don't know the person I want to give merits to for their post, I check if they participate in the merit game. That means, I want to see that they award other users with merits if they receive some. If their distribution is 0 when they have merits to give, I won't merit them.   

[BabyBandit]

Nothing tastes better than the fruit of your hard work, good luck BabyBandit.

Thank you  & Congratulations to 800 merit.

Actually, it's not a bad question. And everyone approaches it differently. I doubt there will be that many people who merit those they don't like or are in a conflict with. If you compare it with a real-life scenario, you wouldn't be spending time with or going out with those you don't like.

Being completely objective is a plus, but hard to achieve. I wouldn't say that there is a spotlight on merit sources, but their merit distribution is easier to spot since there is much more of it. It's possible that a person might ask themselves, should I really merit this user? They are such a controversial and negative figure. Or, what will other people think if they see me merit this person?

There aren't many rules about merit distribution for merit sources, so everyone has their own modus operandi. If I don't know the person I want to give merits to for their post, I check if they participate in the merit game. That means, I want to see that they award other users with merits if they receive some. If their distribution is 0 when they have merits to give, I won't merit them.    

Good way to handle a situation if you wanna give out Merit, something I also will take after.
It's a interesting question indeed and yes people are taking it their own way.  
Example for me: when I go into a thread for the first time I always go in without feelings and read what is presented and act after that, not after who presented it.
But I guess it's no wrong or right just different ways to approach something that in the end is totally irrelevant.

[EarnOnVictor]

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I totally agree with you here, they should and can and give sMerits to whoever they fell deserve it and I think they all doing a great job.

Since you have drawn the correct conclusion - then you should immediately lock this thread rather than leaving it open any longer.

Merit source are a voluntary task – but they have full rights to the source they have and are not prohibited from giving them to whom and in what rank. The main thing expected from a merit system is an increase in the quality of posts - so it is advisable to distribute them to quality posts regardless of who created them.

I like the concluding part but I strongly disagree that this thread should be locked, it's a very good thread to remind those who are in the habit of distributing merits with sentiments. This is not applicable to merit sources alone but to all and I noticed those who are favoured with merits don't often like discussion. You might not be doing what the OP says but many do it and there is no speech you can ever give to exonerate them. Some people take things personally and once you are in the opposite of their view (even if they are wrong), then you are out of their favour, while some just have their preferences.

This thread should continue to be a gentle reminder for those of them who still have a conscience that "to whom much is given much is required," and that much is beyond personal sentiment or I do as I like.

[Etranger]

If I don't know the person I want to give merits to for their post, I check if they participate in the merit game. That means, I want to see that they award other users with merits if they receive some. If their distribution is 0 when they have merits to give, I won't merit them.   

That is exactly what I keep repeating about subjective nature of the merit system and existence of really different criteria which users use when they decide to send merits to somebody. I totally get your position on this matter, because merit circulation is important to keep the system alive and effective. However, this way you may leave unmerited some quality posts only for a reason that this member won't send any merits to another person. And this is not exactly what the merit system is pursuing. Its main focus still lies on valuing good, quality posts, no matter what the rewarded user choose to do with sMerits he gains.

[SmartGold01]

There aren't many rules about merit distribution for merit sources, so everyone has their own modus operandi. If I don't know the person I want to give merits to for their post, I check if they participate in the merit game. That means, I want to see that they award other users with merits if they receive some. If their distribution is 0 when they have merits to give, I won't merit them.   

You absolutely correct on your opinion here, there are some users especially low rank profiles some of them don't like distribution but they are always wanting people to send to them without involved in distribution sides, again we can't truly judge how we distributes our merits but with the real life scenario you gave made me to understand we do have fans..
.. that is, those whom we felt that are mostly correct or that also loves sharing merits to them as well, we can feel the same but whenever there's a beef and a kind of misunderstanding I don't think anyone would spare their merits to user who isn't their fans or friends. Although there are people who finds it difficult to merit some users naturally because they felt such people has enough without knowing that merits are being distribution according to how helpful/meaningful and creatives a post is,  Yes we can't questioned anybody how they chose to distribute their merits and even if they don't it doesn't add any meaning and values to their life's because it will not change anything.

[Pmalek]

I totally get your position on this matter, because merit circulation is important to keep the system alive and effective. However, this way you may leave unmerited some quality posts only for a reason that this member won't send any merits to another person. And this is not exactly what the merit system is pursuing. Its main focus still lies on valuing good, quality posts, no matter what the rewarded user choose to do with sMerits he gains.

You are not wrong, and I have been told the same thing before. But that's my way of doing it and I am not going to change it. I believe that merits aren't supposed to be hoarded. Imagine if 8/10 people who receive merits refused to reward others with merits? It wouldn't make sense. The entire merit system would, in that case, rely exclusively on merit sources. But if regular users share merits as well (which the majority does), it's a much healthier-looking system with more opportunities for people to be on the receiving end.   

[Etranger]

You are not wrong, and I have been told the same thing before. But that's my way of doing it and I am not going to change it. I believe that merits aren't supposed to be hoarded. Imagine if 8/10 people who receive merits refused to reward others with merits? It wouldn't make sense. The entire merit system would, in that case, rely exclusively on merit sources. But if regular users share merits as well (which the majority does), it's a much healthier-looking system with more opportunities for people to be on the receiving end.   

Sure, I totally understand this, and frankly, I feel this way as well, because only in this case the system would work as I think it was designed by admins. I don't see any reason in keeping sMerits, because it doesn't give you anything, but it slows down the whole merit distribution instead. You have the right to do as you think would be better and correct, because it's yours sMerits to give away and you are in charge and get to decide. I believe, this is another prove that Merit Sources and just regular givers use their feelings, their own interpretations and I don't see anything wrong with it, because it is impossible to make this system objective, although it is possible to make criteria people use while rewarding some posts more clear and transparent and you did so, which could be very helpful to others when they hesitate to give their sMerits to others.

[KaosanRoad]

Humans mostly doing things based on their feelings. 

[Shamm]

Every merit source have thier own way if giving thier sMerits as we all know that they will have thier taste and if they were like your post cause it will contains a lot of positive and helpful topics then merit source will came across your profile and once you are qualified then you will be given by them.  And also there are some merits source having a task in order to give his sMerits for those users who are the best contributot her in our community.

[The Cryptovator]

Before becoming a merit source, we were a general forum member. So for me, I always act like I did before. Merit source doesn't mean something extra ordinary. I merit a post where I like it and find it worthy. Sometimes I send a large number of merits even if the post is not worth it because of rank. When someone is struggling to rank up and needs some merit, I help them. We have emotion as well, but we don't necessarily need to show it through merit. I merited my enemy posts as well, when I found them worthy. So for each merit source, thoughts would be different.

[BabyBandit]

Before becoming a merit source, we were a general forum member. So for me, I always act like I did before. Merit source doesn't mean something extra ordinary. I merit a post where I like it and find it worthy. Sometimes I send a large number of merits even if the post is not worth it because of rank. When someone is struggling to rank up and needs some merit, I help them. We have emotion as well, but we don't necessarily need to show it through merit. I merited my enemy posts as well, when I found them worthy. So for each merit source, thoughts would be different.

Hey! Thanks for taking your time and reply in this thread, I appreciate it and thank you for sharing your way how you see it as a merit source. Keep up the good work mate! 💪

[Richbased]

You know humans, if they do not like someone, they will not do anything in favour of the person they dislike. And can theymos know, he can not know. But we have 109 merit source with approximately 33940 smerits given by theymos almost every 30 days. If a merit source do not like you, another merit source will like you unless you are not posting something useful.

Sure I believe that before merit source is given to someone, they must have been scrutinize if they ain't gonna be biased in distributing merits accordingly and merits are mostly awarded to good and quality posters as their is never a way all the merit sources can skip a quality posts that deserves to be merited. And I also believe that merit sources are also checked from time to time to know if they're fair in giving out merits to quality posters.

[FinePoine0]

Humans mostly doing things based on their feelings. 

Anyone giving wrong information in this forum will be punished. Helping each other with proper information and right decision is the key to success. To live here is to live by yourself, because you can never meet others with proof. The subject of intellectual circulation must be carefully guarded and kept alive. Send qualification only in standard post or no qualification in any other normal post. And no qualifications can be sent in any way (personal message) with anyone. Therefore, you will receive merit gift of all the posts in the same way that you will send your accumulated Smerit to others only on quality posts.

[Etranger]

And I also believe that merit sources are also checked from time to time to know if they're fair in giving out merits to quality posters.

If they are, than the criteria for such checking is very wide, because behaviour of merit sources differ a lot. Some of them don't usually give more that 10 merits for good, quality posts, others could give more that 40 for a short, but capacious reply. That is why we can not follow some common logic behind those actions, because everyone has a special treatment for users here.

[348Judah]

And I also believe that merit sources are also checked from time to time to know if they're fair in giving out merits to quality posters.

If they are, than the criteria for such checking is very wide, because behaviour of merit sources differ a lot. Some of them don't usually give more that 10 merits for good, quality posts, others could give more that 40 for a short, but capacious reply. That is why we can not follow some common logic behind those actions, because everyone has a special treatment for users here.

I don't think if there's any check on the way merits sources disburse their merits, however, member can discuss any kind of suspicious type on the reputation board if found, but I want you to also know that merits sources were chosen base on their level of reputation and contributions they have achieved or earned from the forum, with how the admin is more convinced about their discharge in meriting other people, the scrutiny would have been done properly before they were made a merit source as well.

[Zoomic]

I can say most of merit sources are objective, while most of non merit sources are subjective.

Example:
1. A merit source with 5K merits give someone merit, then this user will merit back the merit source in the next post or other post because he want to make the merit source notice to him or giving more merit.

2. Someone only meriting or give more merit to their gangs or friends, but the other users who create a same or higher quality from their gangs or friends will not receive higher merits.

Since giving merit like that will not result in ban or negative feedback, we can only accept this culture.

You made so many statements that are true and that is the reality. Many people will deny this obvious reality but we would not die in denial. Some people keep cycling merits and to the extent that what determines your growth as a low rank member is two things;

• You must be exceptionally intelligent and have a good knowledge of bitcoin, this is the best way to grow yourself. Unfortunately, it's never easy to be among this category. We only have them 1 in every hundred
• Another way is to have a good relationship with some merit sources. If no merit source loves you, your method of posting or knows your username, your growth will be largely limited.

However, I love your conclusion, that we can only accept the culture. Although there is no perfect system anywhere.

[Etranger]

And I also believe that merit sources are also checked from time to time to know if they're fair in giving out merits to quality posters.

If they are, than the criteria for such checking is very wide, because behaviour of merit sources differ a lot. Some of them don't usually give more that 10 merits for good, quality posts, others could give more that 40 for a short, but capacious reply. That is why we can not follow some common logic behind those actions, because everyone has a special treatment for users here.

I don't think if there's any check on the way merits sources disburse their merits, however, member can discuss any kind of suspicious type on the reputation board if found, but I want you to also know that merits sources were chosen base on their level of reputation and contributions they have achieved or earned from the forum, with how the admin is more convinced about their discharge in meriting other people, the scrutiny would have been done properly before they were made a merit source as well.

I didn't question the integrity of merit courses in any way, I am fully aware about them being the most reliable and honoured members of the forum. I simply made an accent that all of them have criteria which are different from one another. And I believe this is a good thing, because such diversity is able to cover a larger field of posts that are considered high-quality and interesting. This way, features which can be merited are being replenished. These are not the same principles that absolutely everyone must follow in order to receive merit and rise in rank. Good posts are a broad concept that can be interpreted differently by everyone, increasing an individual member's chances of being noticed and rewarded.