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October 12, 2023, 02:45:01 AM
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Before you talk further about Merit, you must understand the purpose and function of implementing Merit on the Bitcointalk forum. The main aim of implementing the Merit function in forums is to eradicate Spammers who are increasingly multiplying in forums, they only need a sufficient amount of activity as one of the requirements for rank up.
However, after the merit system was implemented in the forum. Spammers are like chickens that have lost their mothers, those who find it difficult to rank up will choose to leave the forum. Meanwhile, members who are willing to abandon old habits will continue to exist in the forum by improving the quality of their posts in order to gain merit.

Op, you are no longer a newbie who doesn't know how merit works in forums. Questions like this should be asked by Newbies who have just joined the forum, not users who are already at Full Member rank.

 
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October 12, 2023, 02:55:22 AM
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As far as I know, old members received airdropped merits according to their rank and activity. So, Full members received 100 airdropped merits to get their rank, Sr 250, hero 500, and Legendaries 1000. There are a lot of inactive accounts that have not earned a single merit other than the air-dropped merits. So, when I see high-rank accounts without earning a single or very little amount of merits, I tend to think those are sold accounts. The account changed hands. The account owner does not even know if they have a high-ranked Bitcointalk account because of their previous activity. So, if you see a Legendary member with zero earned merits, it means they did not earn it with their knowledge.
True. When the merit system was applied, any rank of old members got airdropped merits depending on their activities. OP seems having 100 merits got from airdropped merits, it means he was already a full member in 2017. He only got 1 earned merit so far. It indicates that OP is less active and he didn't make valuable posts. It is easy to check it, OP was never active in 2022, the latest post was on December 2021. He just woke up on July 2023, but he suddenly feels jealous with the way to earn merits. I guess OP doesn't know anything about merit system. He needs to learn it first, so won't misunderstood about how people earn merits.
I'm not sure Op really doesn't know how this Merit system works. In 2020 he was still active on the forum and there was a history of him sending sMerits to other members in 2019.
I would rather believe the account changed hands than the Op who has been asleep for a long time and doesn't know anything about how the Merit system works.
Moreover, there are findings related to Op's alt account that have been discovered. It's possible that the account changed hands because it was sold. I haven't got any proof yet, maybe it will be revealed soon.

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October 12, 2023, 09:59:45 AM
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The best advice you will get is to engage actively and positively on the forum, and you will be rewarded with merit. Just have something real to give to the forum, and you might be lucky enough to earn a merit like the one you earned from your local board a few hours ago.

There is one statement I came across in this forum: "Don't chase merit; make quality posts and allow merit to chase you." Some local boards are also good at helping one another, especially when they see you contributing actively to your local board.
 
My advice: Look for that area where you can be productive and start making organic posts there; genuinely, don't try to outsmart anyone in the name of chasing merit, as that might land you into trouble.

Chasing merit causes some new users to lose their accounts because some of them engage in behaviour that can also result in account loss. Merits are merely rewards for your efforts, and before you can receive rewards for any work, you must first take actions that will enable you to merit them. As such, new users shouldn't begin chasing merits as soon as they join the forum. The ideal strategy is to learn how to write posts that grab readers' interest and make them want to read more of what you have to say, or at least some of it. This requires being honest in your writing so that readers will feel free to remark.

Others join the forum and rank up within a few months, but some people stay for more than a year before moving to any rank that makes them feel comfortable there. If you lack patience as a human, you will also find the site challenging. What I want us to realise is that the forum is simply a place where we are not all the same, we don't all approach things the same way, and it's also a place where you meet people who are either better or worse than you. In my opinion, we should exercise patience in everything we do, but especially in regards to forum-related activities.

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October 12, 2023, 01:30:29 PM
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Hi guys, I want to ask some tips on getting some merits. I somehow feel jealous when I see other full members having tons of it even if they're just new to the forum. I know that there are some ways to earn it like being active in your local board, engaging in the gambling threads talking about particular sports, create an informational thread, or have some deep knowledge about bitcoin's technical like block size, hash rate, etc. And that's my concern, I am not good with any of those stuffs. I am not a sports enthusiasts nor good in bitcoin technical. Our local board is not that active also compared to others where I see some members' their main merit source.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for taking my time to read my post. Cheers!  Smiley

Hello Op good day it seems that you are asking for help how to get merits? But when I take a look at your profile it seems that your account is registered way back 2017 which is pretty sure that if this is yours then you already know how to earn that.  Honestly I have a doubt that this is your account or not or else if this is your account maybe you you've leave Bitcointallk for a while and now you are here active again in forum.
Anyways Op the best thing to earn merits is you need to contribute her in our community.
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October 12, 2023, 01:52:56 PM
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It would be interesting to get some feedback on this thread from the OP, especially in light of what was pointed out here in the first instance, and then subsequently refined both here and here

Maybe he’s hoping for things to just blow away, though it’s something that can bite back at any point in time. Before worrying about earing Merits I’d be more concerned with what the wallet address seem to be pointing at through the linked accounts …
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October 12, 2023, 02:07:52 PM
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It would be interesting to get some feedback on this thread from the OP, especially in light of what was pointed out here in the first instance, and then subsequently refined both here and here.
With these findings, OP chance to get merit in the thread is zero.

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Maybe he’s hoping for things to just blow away, though it’s something that can bite back at any point in time. Before worrying about earing Merits I’d be more concerned with what the wallet address seem to be pointing at through the linked accounts …
He just does boring things and hope his boring posts can earn merit. It did not work and he tried to create some topics to again hope gaining merit with boring threads.
If you view the forum as some sort of "job" where you complete some basic tasks and get paid, then you will almost certainly be disappointed, and the forum administration will not be sympathetic. If you do make money using the forum, then it will be through innovation and entrepreneurship, not any sort of mindless busywork.

He only did opposite things than what is advised by the admin in welcome message.
When you start out, you are a Newbie, and you will run into various annoying limits. These limits will be reduced to the point where you shouldn't usually notice them after you have participated in the forum for a few weeks. If you are on the forum to talk, then that's all you really need to know about rank. Don't worry about it too much, and you will eventually rank up.

If you want to maximize your rank, then you need to increase two statistics which are listed on your profile:
  • Activity, which is maximized by posting once per day on average. Posting more than that is useless in raising your activity.
  • Merit, which is gained by making good posts.

If you make ten thousand posts in a week, your activity will be capped and you will still be a Newbie. If you make ten thousand useless posts over any period of time, you will gain zero merit and you will still be a Newbie. You can rank up only by making good posts consistently. It's quality over quantity.

When trying to write quality posts, a lot of people act as though they're writing a book report for school: putting facts that we already know into their own words. Nobody wants to read that, and you will not get merit for it. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.

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October 12, 2023, 02:23:28 PM
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True. When the merit system was applied, any rank of old members got airdropped merits depending on their activities. OP seems having 100 merits got from airdropped merits, it means he was already a full member in 2017. He only got 1 earned merit so far. It indicates that OP is less active and he didn't make valuable posts. It is easy to check it, OP was never active in 2022, the latest post was on December 2021. He just woke up on July 2023, but he suddenly feels jealous with the way to earn merits. I guess OP doesn't know anything about merit system. He needs to learn it first, so won't misunderstood about how people earn merits.
I'm not sure Op really doesn't know how this Merit system works. In 2020 he was still active on the forum and there was a history of him sending sMerits to other members in 2019.
I would rather believe the account changed hands than the Op who has been asleep for a long time and doesn't know anything about how the Merit system works.
Moreover, there are findings related to Op's alt account that have been discovered. It's possible that the account changed hands because it was sold. I haven't got any proof yet, maybe it will be revealed soon.
It sounds very ridiculous when someone who has distributed merit to someone else's account asks how to get Merit. Your assumption is correct, the account has changed hands to someone who is new to the forum. Op question has invited various speculations between the history of the account and the one just asked. I'm not sure Op doesn't understand the merit system works in forums unless the account has been managed by someone else.

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October 12, 2023, 07:51:50 PM
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... I am not a sports enthusiasts nor good in bitcoin technical. ..

In this case, it is unclear what made you return to the forum again. You should still have some section that is interesting to you. Try to thoroughly understand this issue so that in the future your posts will be interesting to others and carry not only your knowledge, but also relevant news.

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October 12, 2023, 11:19:49 PM
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Hi guys, I want to ask some tips on getting some merits. I somehow feel jealous when I see other full members having tons of it even if they're just new to the forum. I know that there are some ways to earn it like being active in your local board, engaging in the gambling threads talking about particular sports, create an informational thread, or have some deep knowledge about bitcoin's technical like block size, hash rate, etc. And that's my concern, I am not good with any of those stuffs. I am not a sports enthusiasts nor good in bitcoin technical. Our local board is not that active also compared to others where I see some members' their main merit source.
Ways to get merits are not that hard; all you need is to be active here and share meaningful content with forum members, and your posts will be appreciated by those you see with many merits. Those you see with many merits also do the same thing, there is nothing much to say again. However, if your local board is not active like other boards, it is not a big deal. We have many boards here where you can go and post meaningful contents, and your effort will be appreciated by others. It is not compulsory to create sport threads or technical boards. We have many boards where you can choose and specialise yourself with the discussions that are taking place there, and you will find it easy and start getting what you want. It is not compulsory, you must know that every discussion taking place on all boards has its own section in which they like posting, so you can also look for a way around to choose a board and specialize  yourself.
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October 12, 2023, 11:42:14 PM
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Hi guys, I want to ask some tips on getting some merits. I somehow feel jealous when I see other full members having tons of it even if they're just new to the forum. I know that there are some ways to earn it like being active in your local board, engaging in the gambling threads talking about particular sports, create an informational thread, or have some deep knowledge about bitcoin's technical like block size, hash rate, etc. And that's my concern, I am not good with any of those stuffs. I am not a sports enthusiasts nor good in bitcoin technical. Our local board is not that active also compared to others where I see some members' their main merit source.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for taking my time to read my post. Cheers!  Smiley

I do recommend that creating various topics on your local boards is a great way to start your merit journey.

Since you have mentioned that your local board is not active, that is the perfect opportunity for you to introduce certain topics that can potentially make it active again. In fact, this can be a great advantage to you so that you could earn dozens of merits on the process after you shared various topics.

At the end of the day, focus on contribution rather than reward. Merits would come and go and this would be your second priority once you have discovered a way to contribute to the forum as a whole.
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Engage in threads you are interested in, just be genuine, try not to hanker after merits, they will come naturally. Slow or fast doesn't matter when you don't care for it in first place.
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It sounds very ridiculous when someone who has distributed merit to someone else's account asks how to get Merit. Your assumption is correct, the account has changed hands to someone who is new to the forum. Op question has invited various speculations between the history of the account and the one just asked. I'm not sure Op doesn't understand the merit system works in forums unless the account has been managed by someone else.
while I'm pretty sure the accounts are operated by different people, that's just a guess. there is still no strong evidence. because the account is still making posts on the same local forum, there is little activity that is different from before. where the account previously appeared to be very active on altcoin boards, and now the account has changed its posting habits.
The proof is still not enough, but what is clear is that this account will definitely attract the attention of other members. although I'm sure from now on he will be more careful in making posts.
and I'm sure the user of the account is not a beginner. I'm sure of that.

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October 13, 2023, 06:28:57 AM
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Look: It's like asking how to climb the corporate ladder. You simply will be ranked up if you actually deserve it.

Heck, a lot of us here aren't even trying so hard. If you truly know a lot of about Bitcoin/crypto/security/trading/investing/etc, people with merits will see it and give you merits. It's really that simple. There's no secret sauce here.
You forgot about the part where if the applicant has a strong backer, they can easily climb that corporate ladder which would make your comparison of climbing the corporate ladder to reach a new position to ranking up in the forum moot unless it's proven otherwise. But you're right though, if you're actively participating in discussions, people that will give you merits will just give it to you. And to you OP, I don't think that you really need to chase for that because doing so, it will only continue to elude you even further, focus on getting better at your posting and seeing your first 2 pages of recent posts, I think you are due for an improvement.
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Look: It's like asking how to climb the corporate ladder. You simply will be ranked up if you actually deserve it.

Heck, a lot of us here aren't even trying so hard. If you truly know a lot of about Bitcoin/crypto/security/trading/investing/etc, people with merits will see it and give you merits. It's really that simple. There's no secret sauce here.
You forgot about the part where if the applicant has a strong backer, they can easily climb that corporate ladder which would make your comparison of climbing the corporate ladder to reach a new position to ranking up in the forum moot unless it's proven otherwise. But you're right though, if you're actively participating in discussions, people that will give you merits will just give it to you. And to you OP, I don't think that you really need to chase for that because doing so, it will only continue to elude you even further, focus on getting better at your posting and seeing your first 2 pages of recent posts, I think you are due for an improvement.

They don't actually need a backer since the only thing they need is knowledge about what they are engaging since if there post is really helpful to the community for sure they can get a merits coming from people who think that their post is very helpful or informative to them.

Also don't forget that sharing your merit to many people will result good to you since they also remember that you give merit to them and they return the favor to. So remember that the more you give the more you receive so we should not let our merit got stuck since its meant for sharing.

If we are eager to be a better forum member and search for improvement for sure those merits will come then it will help those people to rank up.

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Hi guys, I want to ask some tips on getting some merits. I somehow feel jealous when I see other full members having tons of it even if they're just new to the forum. I know that there are some ways to earn it like being active in your local board, engaging in the gambling threads talking about particular sports, create an informational thread, or have some deep knowledge about bitcoin's technical like block size, hash rate, etc. And that's my concern, I am not good with any of those stuffs. I am not a sports enthusiasts nor good in bitcoin technical. Our local board is not that active also compared to others where I see some members' their main merit source.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for taking my time to read my post. Cheers!  Smiley

You should always post according to the questions asked and you should always impress other people with your answers i.e. good posts and better posts are always taken note of. You can also pay some users the amount they require some time, for example, if a user needs 10$ in Tron and he says it will give you back in USDT, then you should make a post about it with the transaction hash, and also that should be look whether it is some real user or if a person is scamming. So, in this way, you should always be aware of scams. Another way of earning merit is to write from yourself, don't try to copy or change paraphrase, etc., in this way your account may be banned and you will be not allowed to post again. Taking care of these factors your post should be genuine.

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An advice coming from someone with lesser merit than most is, just keeping showing your dedication and contribute in more boards than one to the discussion and analysis.
I also think there are some term usage that might show that one is merit worthy and to know these terms means we as newbies have understood what this forum is all about and the message of Bitcoin it is trying to teach is grasped in the smallest bit.
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Hi guys, I want to ask some tips on getting some merits. I somehow feel jealous when I see other full members having tons of it even if they're just new to the forum. I know that there are some ways to earn it like being active in your local board, engaging in the gambling threads talking about particular sports, create an informational thread, or have some deep knowledge about bitcoin's technical like block size, hash rate, etc. And that's my concern, I am not good with any of those stuffs. I am not a sports enthusiasts nor good in bitcoin technical. Our local board is not that active also compared to others where I see some members' their main merit source.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for taking my time to read my post. Cheers!  Smiley
The gambling section is one of the least merited boards. People who post in the gambling section are not after merit but to get entertained and complete their signature quota. Nobody was born with the knowledge of bitcoin.  Every member you see discussing bitcoin in all sections if the forum took time to read and understand the Bitcoin space. I am sure you can learn many things that can make you make helpful contributions. Learning about some aspects of bitcoin might be challenging but is is not impossible. If you can pay close attention to threads and do research, you might make post that will attract merits.

Learning and mastering the rules of the forum can also be an added advantage in your determination to advance in the forum. This can help you to guide newbies and make contributions in some boards. You can also help to keep the forum clean by busting spammers, scammers and cheaters. Some members also earn merits by taking part in various contests in the forum.

But if you want to excel in the forum, the best path will be to keep learning about Bitcoin and contribute positively  to the forum

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October 15, 2023, 07:59:05 AM
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Hi guys, I want to ask some tips on getting some merits. I somehow feel jealous when I see other full members having tons of it even if they're just new to the forum. I know that there are some ways to earn it like being active in your local board, engaging in the gambling threads talking about particular sports, create an informational thread, or have some deep knowledge about bitcoin's technical like block size, hash rate, etc. And that's my concern, I am not good with any of those stuffs. I am not a sports enthusiasts nor good in bitcoin technical. Our local board is not that active also compared to others where I see some members' their main merit source.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for taking my time to read my post. Cheers!  Smiley

You should always post according to the questions asked and you should always impress other people with your answers i.e. good posts and better posts are always taken note of. You can also pay some users the amount they require some time, for example, if a user needs 10$ in Tron and he says it will give you back in USDT, then you should make a post about it with the transaction hash, and also that should be look whether it is some real user or if a person is scamming. So, in this way, you should always be aware of scams. Another way of earning merit is to write from yourself, don't try to copy or change paraphrase, etc., in this way your account may be banned and you will be not allowed to post again. Taking care of these factors your post should be genuine.

Sometimes its hard its frustrating for other for not getting those merits but if they just post something have sense to read then provably they will get that since there are people actively giving merits to the post they like to read.

Also they also need to participate on several forum events since to many people give them some merits for appreciation of their task done for said threads. There are also generous members posting to give merits to review their quality post so they should follow the rules set by these user so that they will be notice and review if they are eligible to receive the merits coming from those guys.

But overall we shouldn't stress ourselves about getting merits since this is not everything in this forum since what's more important is the knowledge you can acquire and what you can share to other people.

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October 15, 2023, 02:08:59 PM
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Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for taking my time to read my post. Cheers!  Smiley
As far as I know, there are many members in the Philippines who are generous in giving Merit to other members, while they provide ideas and information that are useful and interesting for other members, If you are from the Philippines and have something meaningful to post there, of course you don't bother to apply for Merit here.

Merit comes without realizing it and is asked for, as long as you are innovative or creative in your posts, you can easily get everything, The point is, do something useful and useful for other communities, it will automatically be easy to achieve your desires.

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October 15, 2023, 03:35:44 PM
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Hi guys, I want to ask some tips on getting some merits. I somehow feel jealous when I see other full members having tons of it even if they're just new to the forum. I know that there are some ways to earn it like being active in your local board, engaging in the gambling threads talking about particular sports, create an informational thread, or have some deep knowledge about bitcoin's technical like block size, hash rate, etc. And that's my concern, I am not good with any of those stuffs. I am not a sports enthusiasts nor good in bitcoin technical. Our local board is not that active also compared to others where I see some members' their main merit source.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for taking my time to read my post. Cheers!  Smiley
As long as the posts and threads you create meet the requirements for quality, constructive and informative posts, the sMerit owners will reward your posts with Merit Prizes.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Try reading the quote theymos wrote above, Merit should be given to quality posts and threads written by a member. Other members (who have sMerit) will assess the quality of a post based on their respective points of view. Although it is often found that there are still people who give sMerit outside of the context above, basically giving sMerit is absolutely the choice of the smerit owner.

One way you can get merit from other members is just by making quality posts and threads. But if the posts and threads that you make, no one appreciates them with merit, Don't give up easily and give up, you have to keep trying or in other words you have to introspect yourself and find a solution to why Merit is still hard to get.

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