Free - Crypto Casino Script Plinko + Crash Full Installation Document

[degika]

Code:

You can ask for a refund if part of the terms is they are going to install the script or there is support for a specific time, you never resell a script you bought especially here in Bitcointalk you're going to get a tag for reselling without permission.

He never gonna refund me anything as he is only using discord channel (little empire for himself).
over 400+ $ ive paid for it.
he said "real life... real life..." i got it, he may have real life situation! i dont mind that.
But "Ill install tomorrow / next day / cmon bro i have real life / i have family take care ... you have to pay me more..."
do you really think he is gonna refund me ?
should i call discord police ? - nah
i just wanted to show his real face.

[swaga]

I never presented the code as my own - the updates I did are my own.

You blame me as i am reseller of your script/code.
And now you are saying you are not the real owner of script/code.
I'm conflicted. so you are with yourself.
Anyway good luck.
I will update link soon for everyone.

I am the owner of over 100 updates.
You can share the code all you want but anyone who really needs it understands its useless with new updates + my support.
By breaking the agreement two of us has you lost the access to future updates / my server.

Just accept the fact you got caught trying to resell my work and I caught you.

Anyhow, I wont lose sleep over a turksih kid trying to hurt my business.

[swaga]

Code:

You can ask for a refund if part of the terms is they are going to install the script or there is support for a specific time, you never resell a script you bought especially here in Bitcointalk you're going to get a tag for reselling without permission.

He never gonna refund me anything as he is only using discord channel (little empire for himself).
over 400+ $ ive paid for it.
he said "real life... real life..." i got it, he may have real life situation! i dont mind that.
But "Ill install tomorrow / next day / cmon bro i have real life / i have family take care ... you have to pay me more..."
do you really think he is gonna refund me ?
should i call discord police ? - nah
i just wanted to show his real face.

1) I told you I was busy with something irl that I didn't plan for so the final agreement was the installation would take place on 9.10.
2) you posted my code for sale on 7.10 which means you KNEW you broke the agreement yet you still kept demanding an installation and then a refund after you realise I caught you.
3) you lied to my face about not trying to resell the code when I asked you
4) you used 2 accounts to talk to me to make me believe you had a friend who referred you to me in hope of getting free stuff in the future.

You can't get a refund since Ive delivered everything you paid for + you broke the agreement we had. That's how it works. If you break the agreement why should I still carry on with it as if nothing happened?

Overall this is a very sad display of what living in Turkey does to a person.

[examplens]

I was quoting for reference, because this leads to a red flag.

Code:

You can ask for a refund if part of the terms is they are going to install the script or there is support for a specific time, you never resell a script you bought especially here in Bitcointalk you're going to get a tag for reselling without permission.

He never gonna refund me anything as he is only using discord channel (little empire for himself).
over 400+ $ ive paid for it.
he said "real life... real life..." i got it, he may have real life situation! i dont mind that.
But "Ill install tomorrow / next day / cmon bro i have real life / i have family take care ... you have to pay me more..."
do you really think he is gonna refund me ?
should i call discord police ? - nah
i just wanted to show his real face.

1) I told you I was busy with something irl that I didn't plan for so the final agreement was the installation would take place on 9.10.
2) you posted my code for sale on 7.10 which means you KNEW you broke the agreement yet you still kept demanding an installation and then a refund after you realise I caught you.
3) you lied to my face about not trying to resell the code when I asked you
4) you used 2 accounts to talk to me to make me believe you had a friend who referred you to me in hope of getting free stuff in the future.

You can't get a refund since Ive delivered everything you paid for + you broke the agreement we had. That's how it works. If you break the agreement why should I still carry on with it as if nothing happened?

Overall this is a very sad display of what living in Turkey does to a person.

@swaga as far as I can see from the screenshots degika posted, you promised the installation "tomorrow" several times.
For example, on 3rd Oct. you promised "this evening/ tomorrow morning all done" ref: https://i.ibb.co/WB6r9sT/this-3.png Also, on 2 Oct. "tomorrow probably"

So, we can conclude that you did not comply with the agreement from trade.

[swaga]

I was quoting for reference, because this leads to a red flag.

Code:

You can ask for a refund if part of the terms is they are going to install the script or there is support for a specific time, you never resell a script you bought especially here in Bitcointalk you're going to get a tag for reselling without permission.

He never gonna refund me anything as he is only using discord channel (little empire for himself).
over 400+ $ ive paid for it.
he said "real life... real life..." i got it, he may have real life situation! i dont mind that.
But "Ill install tomorrow / next day / cmon bro i have real life / i have family take care ... you have to pay me more..."
do you really think he is gonna refund me ?
should i call discord police ? - nah
i just wanted to show his real face.

1) I told you I was busy with something irl that I didn't plan for so the final agreement was the installation would take place on 9.10.
2) you posted my code for sale on 7.10 which means you KNEW you broke the agreement yet you still kept demanding an installation and then a refund after you realise I caught you.
3) you lied to my face about not trying to resell the code when I asked you
4) you used 2 accounts to talk to me to make me believe you had a friend who referred you to me in hope of getting free stuff in the future.

You can't get a refund since Ive delivered everything you paid for + you broke the agreement we had. That's how it works. If you break the agreement why should I still carry on with it as if nothing happened?

Overall this is a very sad display of what living in Turkey does to a person.

@swaga as far as I can see from the screenshots degika posted, you promised the installation "tomorrow" several times.
For example, on 3rd Oct. you promised "this evening/ tomorrow morning all done" ref: https://i.ibb.co/WB6r9sT/this-3.png Also, on 2 Oct. "tomorrow probably"

So, we can conclude that you did not comply with the agreement from trade.

Ive also told him some irl things got in the way. He agreed to wait.
My friend who works with me also told him I had some irl issues and he agreed again to wait.
I don't know why he didn't post those screenshots too?

The issue could've been solved on 9th when i'd finally install the script for him but he chose to go against me.

[swaga]

Here are some screenshots he didn't care to post.

7.10. Saying he can wait. (same day, 10 hours after he posted our code for sale)
https://i.imgur.com/jEkPFhv.png

8.10. Saying he can wait. (1 day after he posted our code for sale) - I told him I'd install the script tomorrow not long after he sent that message at 9pm tho which HE AGREED
https://i.imgur.com/YNvMiWm.png

9.10. Lying he didn't post our code for sale. (same day the installation was supposed to take place)
https://i.imgur.com/XvnyLry.png


What more proof do you want to show you he is a scammer who tried to play me but failed miserably.

[examplens]

Ive also told him some irl things got in the way. He agreed to wait.
My friend who works with me also told him I had some irl issues and he agreed again to wait.
I don't know why he didn't post those screenshots too?

The issue could've been solved on 9th when i'd finally install the script for him but he chose to go against me.

These are just your words, and you haven't really earned a reputation for sticking to them.
You always can post proof here if it shows that there is a different agreement. Instead of doing that and giving all the explanations about this deal, as well as your participation in the ownership of the script, you decide to get into an argument and ask other members for evidence.
I saw he asked you to give them an exact date when you will finish this deal, why didn't you immediately say that you needed 10 days? At the very least, you should give him back the money you took to install the script.

[swaga]

These are just your words, and you haven't really earned a reputation for sticking to them.

We never had a set date - I was going through something irl and I had informed him about it - He agreed to wait each time. - This doesn't mean i didn't stick to the set date as it was never really set in the first place.

You always can post proof here if it shows that there is a different agreement.

He cherry picked 3 screenshots and yall jumped on me - After I posted 3 more screenshots suddenly theres not enough information??

I saw he asked you to give them an exact date when you will finish this deal, why didn't you immediately say that you needed 10 days?

Then when he asked me for an exact date I gave it - 9.10.2023.

At the very least, you should give him back the money you took to install the script.

I can't give him a refund for multiple reasons.
1) He broke the agreement we had - no reselling or leaking
2) he lied to me on multiple occasions
3) he used multiple accounts to contact me in hopes I would give him free stuff.
4) He agreed the installation would take place on 9.10. and then cancelled that agreement - regardless of whether i started the installation or not.

If you think the buyer who tries to manipulate, lie, scam and then ruin your business deserves a refund well God help you if you ever decide to sell something online.
Or better yet, message me once you do so we can repeat this with reversed roles  

[decodx]

I never presented the code as my own - the updates I did are my own.

You're lying again!

Here are just a few examples where you have stated that you believe you are allowed to claim the code as your own:

I'm allowed to change the code that is public and brand it as my own given the enough code was changed.

I plan to market it as my own since it is my own. Given enough code is changed Im allowed to call it my own.

Im sorry but our discussion has no point as you keep coming back to the same point where you claim "i scammed because I claimed i made the code" while in fact I never claimed that and if you joined my discord and did some actual research you'd realise that.

Give my earlier messages another read; I don't plan on rephrasing it just because it didn't click the first time. And, by the way, I'm not interested in your discord.

Also please let me know: How do I prove something doesnt exist? Logically and mathematically.

I didn't ask you to prove something that doesn't exist. I asked you to prove your statements,
specifically this:

It's not so black and white as people here make it seem. Phoenix gambling is a scamming group of people who stole the "code" and now is pretending they made it.
Original developers published their 1st version of the code long time ago and gave permission to anyone to change it, modify it and resell it.

and this:

Please note that Phoenix gambling is still selling the code full of bugs (over 100 of them) and they refuse to fix any - because they think its not necessary or because they cant? you decide.

If you can't back up your claims with solid evidence, it basically means you're making things up to spin a fake story.

You also inverted/twisted half of what I said about Klaus and Adam. All i said was: let them come here and show they made the code.

You're making things up again.  I didn't mention anything about those two. I clearly stated that it's not relevant to this discussion.

[degika]

3) he used multiple accounts to contact me in hopes I would give him free stuff.

Free stuff ?
Our common friend already have everything that you have.
I know as he told me, he just ask you 1 simple question and 1 html file if possible, because you guys in same sector but you are also representing that games to ppl as a "Mobile" which is desktop version again.

https://screenrec.com/share/i1QcEzJNG0

Here what he have already and he shared with many ppl for free, not like you for money.

[swaga]

I never presented the code as my own - the updates I did are my own.

You're lying again!

Here are just a few examples where you have stated that you believe you are allowed to claim the code as your own:

I'm allowed to change the code that is public and brand it as my own given the enough code was changed.

I plan to market it as my own since it is my own. Given enough code is changed Im allowed to call it my own.

Im sorry but our discussion has no point as you keep coming back to the same point where you claim "i scammed because I claimed i made the code" while in fact I never claimed that and if you joined my discord and did some actual research you'd realise that.

Give my earlier messages another read; I don't plan on rephrasing it just because it didn't click the first time. And, by the way, I'm not interested in your discord.

Also please let me know: How do I prove something doesnt exist? Logically and mathematically.

I didn't ask you to prove something that doesn't exist. I asked you to prove your statements,
specifically this:

It's not so black and white as people here make it seem. Phoenix gambling is a scamming group of people who stole the "code" and now is pretending they made it.
Original developers published their 1st version of the code long time ago and gave permission to anyone to change it, modify it and resell it.

and this:

Please note that Phoenix gambling is still selling the code full of bugs (over 100 of them) and they refuse to fix any - because they think its not necessary or because they cant? you decide.

If you can't back up your claims with solid evidence, it basically means you're making things up to spin a fake story.

You also inverted/twisted half of what I said about Klaus and Adam. All i said was: let them come here and show they made the code.

You're making things up again.  I didn't mention anything about those two. I clearly stated that it's not relevant to this discussion.

You're very fast to accuse someone of lying, a true sign of an intellectual.

Let me paint you a picture here since you maybe don't understand the written word:

If i find a broken car in the middle of the road, all rusty and dusty and I take it home and fix it and then try to sell it -> IS THAT CAR MINE OR SOMEONE ELSES?
If i find an abandoned dog in a cardboard box and I take it home and it grows old with me -> IS THAT MY DOG OR SOMEONE ELSES?


If you're not interested in joining my discord to read what I wrote there then why should I go the extra mile to prove anything to you?

Whatever I write here won't be enough for you as you're clearly taking part in this discussion for some personal agenda.
I'm not going to go and dig through forums to find the original dev's post where he shared the code - thus I asked real "phoenix gambling" (not you, dont worry, you don't have to do anything) to prove they're the person in question (aka. original dev) - if they can prove that then I'll respect their wish and stop updating and selling the source code.

This all boils down to this: Bunch of people on this forum think they're competent to play the judge roles whilst the "phoenix gambling" doesn't have to prove anything to anyone.
Why is it that they can simply come here, leave one comment and suddenly they're marked as the sole owners and developers of the code in question?

Why is it that I have to keep jumping through hoops to prove that I'm in fact allowed to sell what I sell?
And lastly, if im not allowed to sell what i sell will the original owner please come here, present the proof of ownership and then inform me that I'm not allowed to do what i do?

Until that happens your comments won't hold any value and we both know that. You nor any other person on this forum can play the role of a judge and say this is right that is not right.
Why you ask? Because you're not informed enough - and you refuse to inform yourself on the matter - all you care is leaving a comment here, just as its the case with multiple other threads on this forum.

I suggest you go back and read all 3 threads again, spend some of your time googling and then come back and leave a comment that actually makes sense.

Also also, why don't you address the comment on the OP actively lying, trying to scam and manipulate me? How come you're only interested in the vigilantism that relates to my "wrongdoings"?


So, let's make it clear once and for all.
The source code that I used as a base - WAS PUBLISHED ONLINE FOR ALL TO SEE WITHOUT ANY "LICENCES" - I took the source code and fixed it (made it useable).
Unless the REAL OWNER can come here and prove their ownership + forbid me from selling it I will not stop selling it.

If the source code in question WAS in fact owned by "phoenix gambling" it would not be able to stand still on github for over 3 years - phoenix would be able to take it down.
WHY DON'T THEY TAKE IT DOWN THEN???

And if all this is not enough - here's a little trick we'll do.
I will NOT sell the base source code - I will give it out for free.
I will only sell updates for the free source code.

Does that work or am I not even allowed to sell 100% my own code, your Honor?

[swaga]

3) he used multiple accounts to contact me in hopes I would give him free stuff.

Free stuff ?
Our common friend already have everything that you have.
I know as he told me, he just ask you 1 simple question and 1 html file if possible, because you guys in same sector but you are also representing that games to ppl as a "Mobile" which is desktop version again.

https://screenrec.com/share/i1QcEzJNG0

Here what he have already and he shared with many ppl for free, not like you for money.

You literally just proved my point. There is no "friend". You're using all those accounts yourself.
And I myself gave you those files for free - which proves you actively manipulated me into giving you free stuff.

Also heres something else: How come you had no problem taking the free version of goldsvet from Sarcasm's discord and then trying to sell it here?
How come that was all fine?

Lets face it, you're likely child with 0 coding knowledge who can only steal other peoples work and try to quickly resell it. Only this time you got caught so you made a show out of it.

[degika]

3) he used multiple accounts to contact me in hopes I would give him free stuff.

Free stuff ?
Our common friend already have everything that you have.
I know as he told me, he just ask you 1 simple question and 1 html file if possible, because you guys in same sector but you are also representing that games to ppl as a "Mobile" which is desktop version again.

https://screenrec.com/share/i1QcEzJNG0

Here what he have already and he shared with many ppl for free, not like you for money.

You literally just proved my point. There is no "friend". You're using all those accounts yourself.
And I myself gave you those files for free - which proves you actively manipulated me into giving you free stuff.

You are Incorrect again!
ZenXo is different person which is very powerful and respectful person in tukish forums.
I got that ss from him.
i can even share our chat if you want.
Everything is clear from my side.
There is nothing to hide for myself also for ZenXo

And I myself gave you those files for free - which proves you actively manipulated me into giving you free stuff.

Stop lying check pragmatic games uplaod date also he have at google drive also. lol

https://screenrec.com/share/Uy4k71LoNG

[swaga]

3) he used multiple accounts to contact me in hopes I would give him free stuff.

Free stuff ?
Our common friend already have everything that you have.
I know as he told me, he just ask you 1 simple question and 1 html file if possible, because you guys in same sector but you are also representing that games to ppl as a "Mobile" which is desktop version again.

https://screenrec.com/share/i1QcEzJNG0

Here what he have already and he shared with many ppl for free, not like you for money.

You literally just proved my point. There is no "friend". You're using all those accounts yourself.
And I myself gave you those files for free - which proves you actively manipulated me into giving you free stuff.

You are Incorrect again!
ZenXo is different person which is very powerful and respectful person in tukish forums.
I got that ss from him.
i can even share our chat if you want.
Everything is clear from my side.
There is nothing to hide for myself also for ZenXo

Why did you block me on telegram once I asked you to stop reselling my code?
I think anyone whith half a brain can see you tried to pull a quick scam here and you failed.

Btw, in your goldsvet thread - did you write a single line of that code?
If you have - please show it and I'll apologise.

[swaga]

Also decodx how come you don't comment anything on degika selling stolen source codes that have owners with real name and last name?
Why are you after me and not him?

I put in over 500 hours into this project, I made the code useable and bug free -> I get shit from people like you for "selling something that is not mine but the owner is nowhere to be seen".
He put exactly 0 hours into setting his sale threads in hopes some idiot buys something that is free AND unusable (aka. the games he sells can't even run and he admitted it) -> you defend him, with your life it seems.

[degika]

3) he used multiple accounts to contact me in hopes I would give him free stuff.

Free stuff ?
Our common friend already have everything that you have.
I know as he told me, he just ask you 1 simple question and 1 html file if possible, because you guys in same sector but you are also representing that games to ppl as a "Mobile" which is desktop version again.

https://screenrec.com/share/i1QcEzJNG0

Here what he have already and he shared with many ppl for free, not like you for money.

You literally just proved my point. There is no "friend". You're using all those accounts yourself.
And I myself gave you those files for free - which proves you actively manipulated me into giving you free stuff.

You are Incorrect again!
ZenXo is different person which is very powerful and respectful person in tukish forums.
I got that ss from him.
i can even share our chat if you want.
Everything is clear from my side.
There is nothing to hide for myself also for ZenXo

Why did you block me on telegram once I asked you to stop reselling my code?
I think anyone whith half a brain can see you tried to pull a quick scam here and you failed.

Btw, in your goldsvet thread - did you write a single line of that code?
If you have - please show it and I'll apologise.

Where is the scam ?
Ive paid for it.
Codes ?
I am not developort but i know ZenXo also prepared installatin document with every detail but he never said, " this is my script, you cannot resell" unlike you.

https://screenrec.com/share/lgnwjcqDOU

[swaga]

3) he used multiple accounts to contact me in hopes I would give him free stuff.

Free stuff ?
Our common friend already have everything that you have.
I know as he told me, he just ask you 1 simple question and 1 html file if possible, because you guys in same sector but you are also representing that games to ppl as a "Mobile" which is desktop version again.

https://screenrec.com/share/i1QcEzJNG0

Here what he have already and he shared with many ppl for free, not like you for money.

You literally just proved my point. There is no "friend". You're using all those accounts yourself.
And I myself gave you those files for free - which proves you actively manipulated me into giving you free stuff.

You are Incorrect again!
ZenXo is different person which is very powerful and respectful person in tukish forums.
I got that ss from him.
i can even share our chat if you want.
Everything is clear from my side.
There is nothing to hide for myself also for ZenXo

Why did you block me on telegram once I asked you to stop reselling my code?
I think anyone whith half a brain can see you tried to pull a quick scam here and you failed.

Btw, in your goldsvet thread - did you write a single line of that code?
If you have - please show it and I'll apologise.

Where is the scam ?
Ive paid for it.
Codes ?
I am not developort but i know ZenXo also prepared installatin document with every detail but he never said, " this is my script, you cannot resell" unlike you.

https://screenrec.com/share/lgnwjcqDOU

You took the installation document from Sarcasm's discord as well.
Also how come you claim it's completely bug free when it's not?
How come you sell pragmatic games for $600 when they're not even able to run?

Also if you ask where is scam? -> it says on my discord DON'T RESELL MY CODE.
If you want to sell code then take the free version from github and sell that. Why don't you do that??
Why is it more attractive to sell my version? maybe because it actually works??

[degika]

3) he used multiple accounts to contact me in hopes I would give him free stuff.

Free stuff ?
Our common friend already have everything that you have.
I know as he told me, he just ask you 1 simple question and 1 html file if possible, because you guys in same sector but you are also representing that games to ppl as a "Mobile" which is desktop version again.

https://screenrec.com/share/i1QcEzJNG0

Here what he have already and he shared with many ppl for free, not like you for money.

You literally just proved my point. There is no "friend". You're using all those accounts yourself.
And I myself gave you those files for free - which proves you actively manipulated me into giving you free stuff.

You are Incorrect again!
ZenXo is different person which is very powerful and respectful person in tukish forums.
I got that ss from him.
i can even share our chat if you want.
Everything is clear from my side.
There is nothing to hide for myself also for ZenXo

Why did you block me on telegram once I asked you to stop reselling my code?
I think anyone whith half a brain can see you tried to pull a quick scam here and you failed.

Btw, in your goldsvet thread - did you write a single line of that code?
If you have - please show it and I'll apologise.

Where is the scam ?
Ive paid for it.
Codes ?
I am not developort but i know ZenXo also prepared installatin document with every detail but he never said, " this is my script, you cannot resell" unlike you.

https://screenrec.com/share/lgnwjcqDOU

You took the installation document from Sarcasm's discord as well.
Also how come you claim it's completely bug free when it's not?
How come you sell pragmatic games for $600 when they're not even able to run?

Also if you ask where is scam? -> it says on my discord DON'T RESELL MY CODE.
If you want to sell code then take the free version from github and sell that. Why don't you do that??
Why is it more attractive to sell my version? maybe because it actually works??

Abosutely not!
He help to his discord group so many times.
Like i said when someone talks about you/your group always gets ban! wow
Because you guys have a big EGO, and thinking only you people knows something.
here response from ZenXo to you
https://screenrec.com/share/oMBXUtKLjT
He cant even run games ?
go try to fuck with him, he is former Godaddy Engineer

[swaga]

And lastly for any other person doubting me, watch the little demonstration and then come back and tell me I'm selling same thing as "phoenix gambling".
Better yet! Go to their site and go to my site and CHECK THE PLINKO FOR YOURSELF - DON'T TRUST MY WORD!!!

https://imgur.com/a/aycQDmk

Too many clowns on here to take this thread seriously anymore.
If anyone can get ahold of Phoenix - I'll sell them the plinko update for $5000 (BUT NOT THE BASE CODE - JUST THE UPDATE   )

[swaga]

and FINALLY:

here's the GoDaddy engineer (definitely not a broke fuck who can't afford to pay for someone elses work)

https://imgur.com/a/wzDArzd