Ever heard about financing a gambler?

[dansus021]

Ever heard about financing a gambler? No I mean maybe there is a person who loses in gambling and borrows some money But in financing trading I hear it a lot. some high-yield investment program has a similar case like that.
But gambling is a different story in my opinion even tho there is person like that I don't want it tho.

But the last time I remember there is someone out of nowhere DM me in telegram and said that he is one of employees gambling company and he said to me "I can make you always win" he showed me but the website was total cap. and the chat deleted.

[Blitzboy]

Well, we can comfortably say anyone that’s financing a gambler is in a way gambling himself. But the only thing is the financier is only the one that would bear all the losses.
The one doing the financing has to know that winning doesn’t come all the time irrespective of how good the person doing the actual gambling is.

Personally, I think it’s too risky to partake in. Cause you’re the only one who bears all the losses while the person you’re financing would play with funds that’s not his and be totally safe from any risk irrespective of the outcomes of any bets placed.

Surprisingly, funding a gambler is a gamble. Like you, I think this is risky. Why? Since the financier becomes an indirect player, sustaining losses without the joy of the game. Almost like a shadow gambler, invisible but involved. Shouldnt risk be assessed for sustainability rather than short-term gains?

Healthy gambling emphasizes control and awareness, although rapid wins sometimes eclipse it. Financers, blinded by possible wins, disregard this. They ignore human nature, which favors hope over reason. Thus, they bet on luck and human behavior as well as money. A dangerous venture. Why not invest in risk comprehension and mitigation rather than mindlessly financing them?

[vv181]

As I said, it is just a different case. Speaking about the whole picture, addiction is complex, surely a single method to help an addicted person won't work. Every addiction must be handled with a different case and scenario. Even if some single method to overcome addiction works, with some particular people it will be different.

So, with what you say, I agree and indeed every case that occurs should be handled with several different methods because that way it will be easier to see the progress of changes in person to recover in the most effective way.
Moreover, what you said previously was only about different cases, not about how to handle it as whole.

What I meant, is if at some point in time, they need a word of encouragement it is a good thing, but that should not be the sole reason that will magically solve the problem.

I know that and indeed giving certain words will provide encouragement and motivation so that they can continue to make various efforts in the healing process or solving problems that are currently occurring.
But just relying on words like that will not be affective because everything can go according to plan in success in recovering or solving problems if there is evidence or guidance in the process.
Most people don't really care about words and they can only accept and apply them if direct steps are taken.

I'm not a medical professional and based the post on my personal experience, so surely it is incomplete and not thorough about what and how to handle such a case.

A lot of ways and methods are required to help such kind of person, and mere words contrasted with the issues the person got is a no match. Nevertheless, we should not discredit its importance when it is being handled by the therapist or professionals. They might seem does not to care, but if it is done gradually, it will have an effect no matter how big or small, that is to assume it is part of the healing processes.

[GiftedMAN]

Ever heard about financing a gambler? No I mean maybe there is a person who loses in gambling and borrows some money But in financing trading I hear it a lot. some high-yield investment program has a similar case like that.
But gambling is a different story in my opinion even tho there is person like that I don't want it tho.

But the last time I remember there is someone out of nowhere DM me in telegram and said that he is one of employees gambling company and he said to me "I can make you always win" he showed me but the website was total cap. and the chat deleted.

We can borrow money to bet if we want but we don't have to make it an habit. Gambling can be very interesting when we are making consistent profits from it but that should not make us to be too focus on gambling since we can easily get accustomed to it. If we are generous gamblers, it shouldn't be a hard thing for us to sponsor people around us that might be interested in gambling. Gambling is suppose to be simple and less often.

If we keep gambling and we don't control ourselves we can become a bad gambler which the endpoint can be addiction. Once we are disciplined and know how to reduce our interest in gambling, then we end more as a reward.

[wxa7115]

Ever heard about financing a gambler? No I mean maybe there is a person who loses in gambling and borrows some money But in financing trading I hear it a lot. some high-yield investment program has a similar case like that.
But gambling is a different story in my opinion even tho there is person like that I don't want it tho.

But the last time I remember there is someone out of nowhere DM me in telegram and said that he is one of employees gambling company and he said to me "I can make you always win" he showed me but the website was total cap. and the chat deleted.

We can borrow money to bet if we want but we don't have to make it an habit. Gambling can be very interesting when we are making consistent profits from it but that should not make us to be too focus on gambling since we can easily get accustomed to it. If we are generous gamblers, it shouldn't be a hard thing for us to sponsor people around us that might be interested in gambling. Gambling is suppose to be simple and less often.

If we keep gambling and we don't control ourselves we can become a bad gambler which the endpoint can be addiction. Once we are disciplined and know how to reduce our interest in gambling, then we end more as a reward.

That is a door which must never be opened, asking for a loan to gamble or giving a loan to someone else so they can do so is a bad idea.

One of the most basic principles when it comes to gambling is to only do it with money you can afford to lose, and money that you have received as a loan does not qualify as money you can afford to lose, as by asking for a loan you are basically admitting you have no money you can dedicate to your gambling hobby, and if that is the case then you must not gamble.

[angrybirdy]

Ever heard about financing a gambler? No I mean maybe there is a person who loses in gambling and borrows some money But in financing trading I hear it a lot. some high-yield investment program has a similar case like that.
But gambling is a different story in my opinion even tho there is person like that I don't want it tho.

But the last time I remember there is someone out of nowhere DM me in telegram and said that he is one of employees gambling company and he said to me "I can make you always win" he showed me but the website was total cap. and the chat deleted.

We can borrow money to bet if we want but we don't have to make it an habit. Gambling can be very interesting when we are making consistent profits from it but that should not make us to be too focus on gambling since we can easily get accustomed to it. If we are generous gamblers, it shouldn't be a hard thing for us to sponsor people around us that might be interested in gambling. Gambling is suppose to be simple and less often.

If we keep gambling and we don't control ourselves we can become a bad gambler which the endpoint can be addiction. Once we are disciplined and know how to reduce our interest in gambling, then we end more as a reward.

That is a door which must never be opened, asking for a loan to gamble or giving a loan to someone else so they can do so is a bad idea.

One of the most basic principles when it comes to gambling is to only do it with money you can afford to lose, and money that you have received as a loan does not qualify as money you can afford to lose, as by asking for a loan you are basically admitting you have no money you can dedicate to your gambling hobby, and if that is the case then you must not gamble.

Precisely! You should gamble what you can afford to lose and you don't have to find a financer or borrow a money to a bank or other lending company just to satisfy your gambling addiction because if you do so, You're giving yourself a chance to ruin your life because we all know how debts and addiction ruin everything especially if you cannot control them.

[maydna]

You should gamble what you can afford to lose and you don't have to find a financer or borrow a money to a bank or other lending company just to satisfy your gambling addiction because if you do so, You're giving yourself a chance to ruin your life because we all know how debts and addiction ruin everything especially if you cannot control them.

That is very true because gambling with the money we can afford, we only lose the amount of money we can afford, and we will not break that limit. If we violate it, we will regret it because we have used more money than usual, and that will disrupt our financial position. You also don't need to look for other people to finance your gambling because that will only increase your difficulties even higher. Just imagine if we lose using the money we borrowed. We will definitely have difficulty returning the money. And if we have no income, it will be even more difficult because we will have absolutely nothing to pay back the borrowed money.

[dansus021]

That is a door which must never be opened, asking for a loan to gamble or giving a loan to someone else so they can do so is a bad idea.

One of the most basic principles when it comes to gambling is to only do it with money you can afford to lose, and money that you have received as a loan does not qualify as money you can afford to lose, as by asking for a loan you are basically admitting you have no money you can dedicate to your gambling hobby, and if that is the case then you must not gamble.

I agree with you

In the other day, there was a person who made a thread about he loan big amount of money and he regretted gambling This is what happens when you get loan for fun and not something for some productive thing. and this statement is very true "by asking for a loan you are basically admitting you have no money"

[tech30338]

That is a door which must never be opened, asking for a loan to gamble or giving a loan to someone else so they can do so is a bad idea.

One of the most basic principles when it comes to gambling is to only do it with money you can afford to lose, and money that you have received as a loan does not qualify as money you can afford to lose, as by asking for a loan you are basically admitting you have no money you can dedicate to your gambling hobby, and if that is the case then you must not gamble.

I agree with you

In the other day, there was a person who made a thread about he loan big amount of money and he regretted gambling This is what happens when you get loan for fun and not something for some productive thing. and this statement is very true "by asking for a loan you are basically admitting you have no money"

In my country a lot of people are doing this but, most people who borrow are foreigners and it does not always have good results, some are being kidnaped and asked for money from families abroad, and they are hooked to casinos where they sell their houses and cars in my country and even though they see others being killed, they just continue with their vice.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?

Because the only place this makes a bit sense is the skills base niche like forex trading or crypto trading, how can gambling/gambler be financed?

Have you heard of such before? What is the end result if you have?

Why would you trust anyone to gamble better than you can when it's all about luck?

Is anyone doing this on here?

Someone explained this to me, and I believe he is already a victim because to me it doesn't make sense, I believe he is been used because he lacks knowledge about gambling, do you think my judgment is wrong?

      -   That has happened to me, and it's my best friend, so it's okay, as long as what was discussed is that I will have a cut of 25% of the winnings that he will get. And he didn't win, so I don't have a cut of 25%.

That depends on whether they are close to you or if you trust them completely. Maybe what Op is thinking is that when he is granted the opportunity to finance it, he suddenly destroys what was discussed, and I think there are many people like that who are talking about a large amount of money.

[Richbased]

Ever heard about financing a gambler? No I mean maybe there is a person who loses in gambling and borrows some money But in financing trading I hear it a lot. some high-yield investment program has a similar case like that.
But gambling is a different story in my opinion even tho there is person like that I don't want it tho.

But the last time I remember there is someone out of nowhere DM me in telegram and said that he is one of employees gambling company and he said to me "I can make you always win" he showed me but the website was total cap. and the chat deleted.

The reason why some persons finance a gambler sometimes is due to maybe he plays gamble and records winning most times then maybe he must have placed a bet and lost huge amount of money then someone who is aware that he wins a lot may just decide to give him funds in other to continue gambling with the belief that he's gonna win. Most times it doesn't turn out well as no matter how successful someone might claim they know gambling, there are also times they lose a lot but you won't know that, it's only when they win that they can let you know with the impression that you will see them as people that wins a lot.

Those gamblers that walks up to people in other to convince them that they're gonna win, if winning a bet is that easy I believe that person that walks up to you to convince you needs money as well and if they're so sure they would have taken a loan and stake the bet then after which they return the loan.

[rozak]

The reason why some persons finance a gambler sometimes is due to maybe he plays gamble and records winning most times then maybe he must have placed a bet and lost huge amount of money then someone who is aware that he wins a lot may just decide to give him funds in other to continue gambling with the belief that he's gonna win. Most times it doesn't turn out well as no matter how successful someone might claim they know gambling, there are also times they lose a lot but you won't know that, it's only when they win that they can let you know with the impression that you will see them as people that wins a lot.

Those gamblers that walks up to people in other to convince them that they're gonna win, if winning a bet is that easy I believe that person that walks up to you to convince you needs money as well and if they're so sure they would have taken a loan and stake the bet then after which they return the loan.

who cares about persuasion to definitely win in gambling games? maybe if it was a card game at an offline table, it could still happen. but still gambling is related to luck. never mind asking people and financing them to play for us. if we are not lucky, then we will not win. even if it is you or someone else playing for you.
maybe some games require skill. and it happens that you don't master the game. but you see a chance of winning, so you attract someone who is more familiar with the game to play for you. although we will never know how big our chances of winning and our luck are.

[lienfaye]

Surprisingly, funding a gambler is a gamble. Like you, I think this is risky. Why? Since the financier becomes an indirect player, sustaining losses without the joy of the game. Almost like a shadow gambler, invisible but involved. Shouldnt risk be assessed for sustainability rather than short-term gains?

Exactly. Why finance a gambler if you can do it yourself? At least you can enjoy the game even you're not fortunate to win. Because in gambling, profits are not guaranteed. Therefore it's not a wise idea (if you value your money) to finance someone to play if the chances of gaining from gambling is just based on this player's luck. Anyway, if you decided to take risk by financing a gambler, might as well consider your money as a throw away so you won't be disappointed if worst case happened.

[ethereumhunter]

Surprisingly, funding a gambler is a gamble. Like you, I think this is risky. Why? Since the financier becomes an indirect player, sustaining losses without the joy of the game. Almost like a shadow gambler, invisible but involved. Shouldnt risk be assessed for sustainability rather than short-term gains?

Exactly. Why finance a gambler if you can do it yourself? At least you can enjoy the game even you're not fortunate to win. Because in gambling, profits are not guaranteed. Therefore it's not a wise idea (if you value your money) to finance someone to play if the chances of gaining from gambling is just based on this player's luck. Anyway, if you decided to take risk by financing a gambler, might as well consider your money as a throw away so you won't be disappointed if worst case happened.

By doing it ourselves, we don't need to worry except worrying about how much money we can use to gamble. That's not a good way because financing someone to gamble will only cause problems for us and them. The problem will become bigger if the people we finance are unable to return the money because they lost it. Unless someone goes to a loan shark to borrow money, that will be a different story because he will be the one who gets into trouble and not the loan shark. After all, a loan shark will definitely ask for his money, no matter what. The person who borrows the money will definitely encounter even bigger problems because he must be able to provide the money to pay the debt.

[carlisle1]

Surprisingly, funding a gambler is a gamble. Like you, I think this is risky. Why? Since the financier becomes an indirect player, sustaining losses without the joy of the game. Almost like a shadow gambler, invisible but involved. Shouldnt risk be assessed for sustainability rather than short-term gains?

Exactly. Why finance a gambler if you can do it yourself? At least you can enjoy the game even you're not fortunate to win. Because in gambling, profits are not guaranteed. Therefore it's not a wise idea (if you value your money) to finance someone to play if the chances of gaining from gambling is just based on this player's luck. Anyway, if you decided to take risk by financing a gambler, might as well consider your money as a throw away so you won't be disappointed if worst case happened.

Yeah, unless you are willing to risk your money without enjoyment, that kind of promises where your money can grow because of the knowledge
gambler can offer, that's easy to say but in reality, it's hard to make it happen or better to say it's only limited to happen.

Just like you, it's much better to use your money and play it can bring enjoyment if you will not exceed with the amount that you can let go.

financing a gambler without any collateral is like giving away your hard-earned money, nothing to expect aside from luck which may
give that chance to be compensated.

[temple]

How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?

Because the only place this makes a bit sense is the skills base niche like forex trading or crypto trading, how can gambling/gambler be financed?

Have you heard of such before? What is the end result if you have?

Why would you trust anyone to gamble better than you can when it's all about luck?

Is anyone doing this on here?

Someone explained this to me, and I believe he is already a victim because to me it doesn't make sense, I believe he is been used because he lacks knowledge about gambling, do you think my judgment is wrong?

It is a common practice for poker players to give away stakes in exchange for money, usually proportionally to the entry fee. I never really understood why someone would do that unless you can go to the venue and watch your poker player play the game, but I think that is usually possible when they reach the final table and an audience is allowed to observe the game. But other than that when it comes to gambling I would rather play myself and enjoy the game than giving my money away to someone else and hoping for a financial return only.

[summonerrk]

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I think that only an aloha gambler or trader will agree to take money from other people for their activities. The fact is that the laws of proper trading state that you need to play or trade only with your own money. Especially for extra money, the loss of which will not affect the quality of life in any way.

And no greedy intentions should interfere with this law. Because if you borrow money from friends, and then lose it, then it's so sad to lose the most precious thing - family and friends.

[sompitonov]

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I think that only an aloha gambler or trader will agree to take money from other people for their activities. The fact is that the laws of proper trading state that you need to play or trade only with your own money. Especially for extra money, the loss of which will not affect the quality of life in any way.

And no greedy intentions should interfere with this law. Because if you borrow money from friends, and then lose it, then it's so sad to lose the most precious thing - family and friends.

Under no circumstances should you give money to your friends or relatives, because this is the best reason to destroy your relationship with them forever. I have seen this happen in real life and I will say that it is better to be smarter and learn from other people's mistakes. The same applies to gambling or poker in particular. Even if you have a super brilliant friend who beats everyone, even in this case I would not sacrifice our relationship because of some money that we will spend on something unnecessary and forget about them altogether. Friendships often last a lifetime.

[Dickiy]

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I think that only an aloha gambler or trader will agree to take money from other people for their activities. The fact is that the laws of proper trading state that you need to play or trade only with your own money. Especially for extra money, the loss of which will not affect the quality of life in any way.

And no greedy intentions should interfere with this law. Because if you borrow money from friends, and then lose it, then it's so sad to lose the most precious thing - family and friends.

Under no circumstances should you give money to your friends or relatives, because this is the best reason to destroy your relationship with them forever. I have seen this happen in real life and I will say that it is better to be smarter and learn from other people's mistakes. The same applies to gambling or poker in particular. Even if you have a super brilliant friend who beats everyone, even in this case I would not sacrifice our relationship because of some money that we will spend on something unnecessary and forget about them altogether. Friendships often last a lifetime.

That's right it makes sense, paying someone else or even one of your friends or relatives to gamble will really cause a lot of problems, not just losing money if you lose but more than that, as you said that indirectly it will make your relationship with them experience problems. Yes that's right, I also often see cases like this happen, which in the end becomes a problem that shouldn't be a problem, basically you don't have to try it first to be able to realize that such actions are really not recommended, but like you said that we can see and make lessons from the experiences of others who have experienced such impacts.

I think that applies to all types of gambling, whether it's poker, sports or slots that are purely about luck. But unfortunately not everyone can think this way, they don't really pay attention to some of the potentials that can make them end up with bad things and a lot of problems, it's ridiculous if you sacrifice the relationship that you have built for a long time with them just because of gambling, so paying someone to gamble is really an act that is not recommended and should be avoided.

[piebeyb]

But the last time I remember there is someone out of nowhere DM me in telegram and said that he is one of employees gambling company and he said to me "I can make you always win" he showed me but the website was total cap. and the chat deleted.

There are many fraudsters on Telegram who offer cooperation that will make us rich, if he can do that, why not just make himself rich himself, even though that makes more sense than him offering us to win in every game, that's It's a bit strange and I also often get DM messages like that but I always ignore them and then they will delete the messages as well as their account to remove traces of their crimes.

There is no one who is truly sincere on the internet offering big wins without asking us for money, everyone of course wants to get the benefits even if we only register as their referral, BTW, whatever it is, never respond to DMs related to that because usually they are just there to deceive beginners. Just in gambling because beginners are more easily tempted by offers like that.