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December 23, 2023, 11:42:19 PM
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We can't say that because many gamblers are easily tempted to accept the offer especially if they have no money just like the amount offered by the financer, But at least let's be aware the possible effect and outcome of this kind of negotiation. In the end, you will still be able to make the decision on your own even if the financier forces you, it is still on you whether you will accept it or not, but hopefully the suggestions that people give in the forum will help.

As I said before, there is a possibility that they will accept the offer or be easily tempted because they need money and hope that later they can earn an income here. Of course, if you are going to make a decision, you have to have good thinking and awareness so that later you don't lose out and regret the decision you made. because a good opportunity doesn't come a second time.😊

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December 24, 2023, 02:23:10 AM
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In one of my things and my thoughts, I have always started to think about a scene like this, where one is very nice and someone sees the way to play and follows him, but of course that is something that I see as very fantastic, no. I think there is someone like that, but as has been said, it could be that there are some people who always like to share this because they like others to spend their money, you have to be a very millionaire person to do it, so in this order of things things can be quite strong, I might think that when it comes to things like that I always like to emphasize the fact that it can make a difference by taking considerations like:

1.-Friends who have a lot of money, I say friends, because they are the ones you already know and they know who you are, and the ones you can do and achieve.

2.- Be very lucky, find a stranger who would like to sponsor you.

Where I see that things are very possible is when it comes to gamers but not in the casino but in other types of games that in reality there is a large community, for Example on the PS5 and it is played online, where they know each Other and have a Great love for games because they are Capable of doing incredible things with this, however when I say about gamers it is because they must be very nice, in fact this makes me remember a movie that I recently saw, which is about this What a stupid thing to say, it's called: "Gran Turismo" and it's based on real events, and in the game of Gran Tourism, which I think we've all played at some point in our lives, I played it, but I didn't know that the game had technical aspects so good as to make it generate so much importance in reality, and a great simulation, for this reason it is said that in this way if it is easy to find a Sponsor , but the person has to be very good , in The casinos have to be someone who always has a lot of luck , which I find Difficult.




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December 24, 2023, 04:36:38 AM
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I am not surprised to hear something about financing a gambler. There are many things that are yet unknown to me in the gambling industry and as you read and research the gambling industry you will hear of many things and some of them are totally strange. As op has said we have seen people that collect money from others and trade forex for cryptocurrency and the end of the day they reward them with profit. But this system is not guaranteed in gambling because gambling is  prohibited in some countries.
Apart from what I have said above. It can also be seen that you that is financing a gambler can be a culprit if the gambler eventually turns to be a gambling addict.
I would guess that something like this is very rare, since the gamblers that are really good not only have their gambling profits already, they can find other ways to make money, by either becoming an influencer and show to others how they obtain their profits or depending on their preferred game they could become sponsored by casinos themselves.

So a gambler looking for someone else to finance their gambling habit is probably not part of the group of successful gamblers, and most likely you will just waste your money if you were to give it to them.
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December 24, 2023, 04:49:27 AM
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In one of my things and my thoughts, I have always started to think about a scene like this, where one is very nice and someone sees the way to play and follows him, but of course that is something that I see as very fantastic, no. I think there is someone like that, but as has been said, it could be that there are some people who always like to share this because they like others to spend their money, you have to be a very millionaire person to do it, so in this order of things things can be quite strong, I might think that when it comes to things like that I always like to emphasize the fact that it can make a difference by taking considerations like:

1.-Friends who have a lot of money, I say friends, because they are the ones you already know and they know who you are, and the ones you can do and achieve.

2.- Be very lucky, find a stranger who would like to sponsor you.

Where I see that things are very possible is when it comes to gamers but not in the casino but in other types of games that in reality there is a large community, for Example on the PS5 and it is played online, where they know each Other and have a Great love for games because they are Capable of doing incredible things with this, however when I say about gamers it is because they must be very nice, in fact this makes me remember a movie that I recently saw, which is about this What a stupid thing to say, it's called: "Gran Turismo" and it's based on real events, and in the game of Gran Tourism, which I think we've all played at some point in our lives, I played it, but I didn't know that the game had technical aspects so good as to make it generate so much importance in reality, and a great simulation, for this reason it is said that in this way if it is easy to find a Sponsor , but the person has to be very good , in The casinos have to be someone who always has a lot of luck , which I find Difficult.




First, gaming, especially PS5 communities, is a culture and lifestyle. Gamers, especially the "very good" ones, are artists and digital experience architects. Now, about sponsorships: it's a symbiotic relationship. Sponsors want talent, and what better place than a place with untapped potential? Let's not forget casinos - high stakes, great payouts. Luck is important, but talent, strategy, and an almost intuitive understanding of the game are too. Casinos are dream theaters for the brave. Finding sponsors in these arenas? Being so good they can't ignore you is more important than luck. Being unique amid a sea of mediocrity. Whether it's digital gaming or digital casino, investors are drawn to the daring, skillful, and dreamers

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December 24, 2023, 05:05:07 AM
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We can't say that because many gamblers are easily tempted to accept the offer especially if they have no money just like the amount offered by the financer, But at least let's be aware the possible effect and outcome of this kind of negotiation. In the end, you will still be able to make the decision on your own even if the financier forces you, it is still on you whether you will accept it or not, but hopefully the suggestions that people give in the forum will help.

As I said before, there is a possibility that they will accept the offer or be easily tempted because they need money and hope that later they can earn an income here. Of course, if you are going to make a decision, you have to have good thinking and awareness so that later you don't lose out and regret the decision you made. because a good opportunity doesn't come a second time.😊
We all want to earn an extra income. But not through financing a gambler (regardless how good or knowledgeable the gambler to a certain game). Because the profits are not guaranteed since it's still based on the player's luck. Therefore if you want to make money, why not look for a side hustle to earn? Because if you can be easily convince and will bite the offer of financing a gambler due to the promised profit if they win. It's a problem if they lose since you already expected something in return. But keep in mind that there's no assurance and if it's really profitable why they have to look for a financer and not use their own money, right?

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December 24, 2023, 07:20:35 AM
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We can't say that because many gamblers are easily tempted to accept the offer especially if they have no money just like the amount offered by the financer, But at least let's be aware the possible effect and outcome of this kind of negotiation. In the end, you will still be able to make the decision on your own even if the financier forces you, it is still on you whether you will accept it or not, but hopefully the suggestions that people give in the forum will help.

As I said before, there is a possibility that they will accept the offer or be easily tempted because they need money and hope that later they can earn an income here. Of course, if you are going to make a decision, you have to have good thinking and awareness so that later you don't lose out and regret the decision you made. because a good opportunity doesn't come a second time.😊
We all want to earn an extra income. But not through financing a gambler (regardless how good or knowledgeable the gambler to a certain game). Because the profits are not guaranteed since it's still based on the player's luck. Therefore if you want to make money, why not look for a side hustle to earn? Because if you can be easily convince and will bite the offer of financing a gambler due to the promised profit if they win. It's a problem if they lose since you already expected something in return. But keep in mind that there's no assurance and if it's really profitable why they have to look for a financer and not use their own money, right?

Of course yes. and what is clear is that we all want to earn additional income.
However, it depends on each gambler and how they will do it. And here in gambling there are still many people who rely on or hope to win.
Therefore, it is better to look for a real job and we will get paid or salary every month.
Yes, of course it is better to use your own capital rather than borrowing from other people, because whether you win or not is already a risk in gambling and we will not have additional problems by having to pay or return the capital.

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December 24, 2023, 11:01:43 AM
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It's vital to acknowledge the risks associated with gambling as a means of earning additional income. Relying on luck can be unpredictable, and it's wise to consider more stable sources of income like a regular job. Using one's capital is certainly a prudent approach to managing the potential risks involved. Exploring alternative avenues for additional income, such as investing or developing new skills, could also be worth considering.
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December 24, 2023, 12:10:06 PM
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It's vital to acknowledge the risks associated with gambling as a means of earning additional income. Relying on luck can be unpredictable, and it's wise to consider more stable sources of income like a regular job. Using one's capital is certainly a prudent approach to managing the potential risks involved. Exploring alternative avenues for additional income, such as investing or developing new skills, could also be worth considering.

And providing loan to a gambler who came to situation like this is so risky since they would not provably ask for loan if they are fine so for sure those lenders who put a trust with these guys will surely get disappointed with the result since that gambler might default on the loan he take especially if he lose to much and can't recover to situation he experience.

I guess exploring alternative  avenues for additional income will not be their solution since most of those guys especially those who experience addiction have more time to spend on gambling sites rather than seeking an opportunity since they might find it not entertaining and they are so much hooked with playing on the games they are more interested on.

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December 24, 2023, 12:27:19 PM
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Someone explained this to me, and I believe he is already a victim because to me it doesn't make sense, I believe he is been used because he lacks knowledge about gambling, do you think my judgment is wrong?
It can happen in some situations. I have people who tried to give me money to invest, as they saw me making money. I declined as it would probably make me a bad investor, as i would change my methods when i would be responsible of someone elses money. Also i wouldn't want to provide info about every trade and tx fee for tax reports. It seems like a lot's of work. Combined with the burden of responsibility.

These people approached me because they didn't know anything about crypto or trading. They wanted someone else to do the work. Same happens when you don't know anything about sports or sports betting. But you see someone getting rich by it. They want in for the profits. This makes more sense to me as i understand trading and crypto but i don't understand sports betting as a deep level as crypto scene. If i saw someone making bucks with gambling, i would definitely want to fund it. Especially in Finland as gambling winnins when playing on "veikkaus" are tax free income.

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December 24, 2023, 12:29:30 PM
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It's vital to acknowledge the risks associated with gambling as a means of earning additional income. Relying on luck can be unpredictable, and it's wise to consider more stable sources of income like a regular job. Using one's capital is certainly a prudent approach to managing the potential risks involved. Exploring alternative avenues for additional income, such as investing or developing new skills, could also be worth considering.

I think there's absolutely no reason why someone would want to make gambling their main source of income, or even their main source of income. Because after all gambling only depends on your luck in every session you do, as you said and obviously then there is absolutely no way that can make them produce winnings just by relying on luck, I'm not saying that you won't win because obviously victory is definitely occasionally you can get, but the problem is if you make gambling your main place of income that means shouldn't you always be able to get a win? while on the other hand what if luck is far from you?

So of course I think it's more realistic in choosing something, use common sense to consider because after all gambling is only recommended for entertainment only, because the risks there are far greater than the chances of winning, and obviously it's true that it's better for them to find a job that is certain - certain, especially in terms of income. Starting an investment is a good suggestion if they have skills in that field or other things that they are certainly capable of doing.

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December 24, 2023, 01:42:28 PM
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It's vital to acknowledge the risks associated with gambling as a means of earning additional income. Relying on luck can be unpredictable, and it's wise to consider more stable sources of income like a regular job. Using one's capital is certainly a prudent approach to managing the potential risks involved. Exploring alternative avenues for additional income, such as investing or developing new skills, could also be worth considering.
The risk would not be worth it if they wanted to finance someone in their gambling. That will only give them problems where, in gambling games, someone will not always be able to win. They will have the possibility of losing the gambling game and will be unable to return the money. They cannot expect to earn additional income from gambling, considering how difficult it is to win. And yes, gambling using your own money is better than borrowing money from other people or asking other people to finance your gambling.

Someone should look for alternative ways that can provide additional income than asking other people to finance their gambling. Using money from his salary and providing a sufficient portion to be deposited into his gambling account will not affect his financial position so he can gamble comfortably. And this will depend on how he can manage his finances when gambling. If he can manage it well, he will not encounter any difficulties and enjoy his gambling activities well.

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December 24, 2023, 02:50:37 PM
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Of course, because the sponsor doesn't want to make a loss in it, the lure of wanting to finance other people to gamble even though there is an ulterior motive in it. Well... we must immediately realize this and don't easily fall into his sweet seduction. Because if we are easily trapped then the consequences can be fatal, we want to be happy but instead we get regret there.
It is because of the temptation from the sponsor that desperate gamblers are willing to follow the suggestions given to them so that they will receive money from the sponsor who will finance their gambling. This should not happen to us because it will only put us at risk where we might not be able to win easily. Unfortunately, there are still many people who are trapped by the sponsor's persuasion and make people take out gambling financing so they can immediately start gambling. But after a while of gambling, they see that there is no chance for them to win more than they lose. They will regret that they have accepted gambling financing from sponsors but it will be too late to stop because they have to keep playing until they get the final result. And if they can't win or even lose, they must be able to return the loan money to that person. Otherwise, they will have even bigger problems.

That's right, hopefully we can avoid things like this and hopefully we won't be easily tempted by the persuasions of gambling sponsors.
If there are still people who are tempted and want to accept advances from sponsors, in my opinion there are two reasons, namely they only see it in terms of luck which they themselves are not sure they will get or maybe they are forced to do it because they need the money and hope to get lucky here. .
And it is true that if someone cannot win, then he should think of a way to win or think about stopping and just returning the money he has used.
That will be hard to do for a gambler who is on a losing streak. I bet he would probably just keep on going and try if his luck will come out after a few more bets rather than waving the white flag mid-game.
Temptations will always be there which is why I'd rather invest with poker players than those who play casino games where the gambling site's system is the one deciding if we will win or not.
With poker players, it's skill-based and some luck to decide who will win a hand. There are those who are also good at bluffing their opponents and can win rounds where they are possibly losing because of a weak hand.
I won't invest with dice players because those have a lower chance of being winners especially if their accounts are filled with a winning streak. A possible outcome after that will be a losing streak and he won't be able to climb back again after a lot of bets.

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December 24, 2023, 03:40:55 PM
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Someone should look for alternative ways that can provide additional income than asking other people to finance their gambling.

This has been diverted to the topic already. It's not the content of the topic since "financing a gambler?" means like a professional work, like a gambler has the skills but doesn't have the capital in gambling, and with that, he'll be looking for financers and they'll have an agreemnet on how they'll split up the profit in case the gambler wins, but if it goes otherwise, the gambler will have not liability, or whatsoever.

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December 24, 2023, 03:47:54 PM
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This has been diverted to the topic already. It's not the content of the topic since "financing a gambler?" means like a professional work, like a gambler has the skills but doesn't have the capital in gambling, and with that, he'll be looking for financers and they'll have an agreemnet on how they'll split up the profit in case the gambler wins, but if it goes otherwise, the gambler will have not liability, or whatsoever.

the situation becomes unfavorable for capital owners if it is like that. but of course, such events occur because the capital providers certainly have confidence in the skills of the gamblers they pay to play with their money.
When I see stories like that, I remember several films I have watched regarding offline gambling carried out in cruise ship casinos or other casino places. A rich man whose hobby was gambling found a gambler with excellent skills and persuaded him to play for the rich man.

I don't know whether this kind of thing is related or not at this time. but for me, it's better to play with the money we have ourselves. Whatever the risk, we bear it ourselves. there's no pressure of having to win, and it's fun.

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December 24, 2023, 04:19:09 PM
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Of course, because the sponsor doesn't want to make a loss in it, the lure of wanting to finance other people to gamble even though there is an ulterior motive in it. Well... we must immediately realize this and don't easily fall into his sweet seduction. Because if we are easily trapped then the consequences can be fatal, we want to be happy but instead we get regret there.
It is because of the temptation from the sponsor that desperate gamblers are willing to follow the suggestions given to them so that they will receive money from the sponsor who will finance their gambling. This should not happen to us because it will only put us at risk where we might not be able to win easily. Unfortunately, there are still many people who are trapped by the sponsor's persuasion and make people take out gambling financing so they can immediately start gambling. But after a while of gambling, they see that there is no chance for them to win more than they lose. They will regret that they have accepted gambling financing from sponsors but it will be too late to stop because they have to keep playing until they get the final result. And if they can't win or even lose, they must be able to return the loan money to that person. Otherwise, they will have even bigger problems.

That's right, hopefully we can avoid things like this and hopefully we won't be easily tempted by the persuasions of gambling sponsors.
If there are still people who are tempted and want to accept advances from sponsors, in my opinion there are two reasons, namely they only see it in terms of luck which they themselves are not sure they will get or maybe they are forced to do it because they need the money and hope to get lucky here. .
And it is true that if someone cannot win, then he should think of a way to win or think about stopping and just returning the money he has used.
That will be hard to do for a gambler who is on a losing streak. I bet he would probably just keep on going and try if his luck will come out after a few more bets rather than waving the white flag mid-game.
Temptations will always be there which is why I'd rather invest with poker players than those who play casino games where the gambling site's system is the one deciding if we will win or not.
With poker players, it's skill-based and some luck to decide who will win a hand. There are those who are also good at bluffing their opponents and can win rounds where they are possibly losing because of a weak hand.
I won't invest with dice players because those have a lower chance of being winners especially if their accounts are filled with a winning streak. A possible outcome after that will be a losing streak and he won't be able to climb back again after a lot of bets.
Your gambling investing approach intrigues me. I think poker is a more skillful investment. The combination of strategy, psychology, and luck creates a dynamic environment. Poker players seem more controlled and strategic. This may improve investment reliability. However, your suspicion of dice games may be rigid. These games are mostly luck-based, yet they capture the thrill of gambling: the unknown. Its amazing to watch dice players with great timing and risk assessment. All gambling, whether poker or dice, should be done with caution and understanding. Responsible gambling matters. Its about understanding the dangers, appreciating chance, and acknowledging skill, regardless of the game.

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December 24, 2023, 04:49:38 PM
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We all want to earn an extra income. But not through financing a gambler (regardless how good or knowledgeable the gambler to a certain game). Because the profits are not guaranteed since it's still based on the player's luck. Therefore if you want to make money, why not look for a side hustle to earn? Because if you can be easily convince and will bite the offer of financing a gambler due to the promised profit if they win. It's a problem if they lose since you already expected something in return. But keep in mind that there's no assurance and if it's really profitable why they have to look for a financer and not use their own money, right?
Indeed, when it comes to making money, it would definitely be better to look for a side job that doesn't involve the risk losing money. but the problem is that other people think that funding other gamblers they can make profit without spending much effort and this can be done as long as they choose right place.

I mean at that time I remember someone here talking about hiring professional gamblers who bet on skill based games and this was the right way to fund a professional gambler and bet on skill based games that not really have big risk like luck based games like slot and this what someone said in this thread and I really agree with this kind of understanding because it makes a lot of sense compared to having to fund gamblers who are not professionals and also bet on game that are luck based.

I support your argument about all that there no guarantee whatsoever but as professional gambler they will not offer to be funded but people come to fund it without forcing any party and professional gamblers usually dont always accept fund from anyone because they also have to ensure conditions mind and body so that betting in a focused manner does not disappoint those who fund it.

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December 25, 2023, 01:42:41 AM
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That will be hard to do for a gambler who is on a losing streak. I bet he would probably just keep on going and try if his luck will come out after a few more bets rather than waving the white flag mid-game.
Temptations will always be there which is why I'd rather invest with poker players than those who play casino games where the gambling site's system is the one deciding if we will win or not.
With poker players, it's skill-based and some luck to decide who will win a hand. There are those who are also good at bluffing their opponents and can win rounds where they are possibly losing because of a weak hand.
I won't invest with dice players because those have a lower chance of being winners especially if their accounts are filled with a winning streak. A possible outcome after that will be a losing streak and he won't be able to climb back again after a lot of bets.

Yes,. it could be that he has experienced depression because he often loses rather than wins at gambling and it is true that because of these losses he will try to replace the money he lost by gambling continuously or excessively and that is what is called temptation in gambling if he does not immediately realize that he will experience a lot of defeat and many problems in his life.

Each person will have their own views in determining the gambling they will do. For example, by choosing poker gambling which you think is a game that suits your own criteria, that is, you are already equipped with playing skills, then there is a possibility that you will often get lucky there, and in my opinion that is a normal thing and you can also anticipate it. not to spend too much money there.

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December 25, 2023, 06:13:23 AM
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Someone should look for alternative ways that can provide additional income than asking other people to finance their gambling.

This has been diverted to the topic already. It's not the content of the topic since "financing a gambler?" means like a professional work, like a gambler has the skills but doesn't have the capital in gambling, and with that, he'll be looking for financers and they'll have an agreemnet on how they'll split up the profit in case the gambler wins, but if it goes otherwise, the gambler will have not liability, or whatsoever.
Actually, not really because if we meet a friend who asks us to finance his gambling and we can advise him to find a job so he can have money to finance his gambling. After having money from his job, he does not ask other people to finance his gambling and he is free to use his salary to gamble and to meet his living needs.

It would be better for him because he would not face the risk of returning his money to the money lender. And he also won't have problems with other people and can gamble using his own money. Hopefully, you can understand what it means.

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December 25, 2023, 06:55:15 AM
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It's vital to acknowledge the risks associated with gambling as a means of earning additional income. Relying on luck can be unpredictable, and it's wise to consider more stable sources of income like a regular job. Using one's capital is certainly a prudent approach to managing the potential risks involved. Exploring alternative avenues for additional income, such as investing or developing new skills, could also be worth considering.

And providing loan to a gambler who came to situation like this is so risky since they would not provably ask for loan if they are fine so for sure those lenders who put a trust with these guys will surely get disappointed with the result since that gambler might default on the loan he take especially if he lose to much and can't recover to situation he experience.

I guess exploring alternative  avenues for additional income will not be their solution since most of those guys especially those who experience addiction have more time to spend on gambling sites rather than seeking an opportunity since they might find it not entertaining and they are so much hooked with playing on the games they are more interested on.

Another source of income may not be possible for an addicted gambler. The only process is to stop lending him some money. Because he'll be having some difficulty with paying the loan. In the context of Op's thread, I'd say that it's not safe for a person to finance a gambler, hoping for a big win. Even in Forex, the risk of such things will end up in regret. No need to ask for another person to take care of the expenses of a gambler while gambling. I think gamblers should focus more on the journey and don't involve people to help them with funds. If that happens the gambler won't have any reason to look for money elsewhere except his own money. Most people when entitled to their friend's money may be gambling recklessly, with the hope that they'll talk to their friend to give them some funds. Whatever, requires a third party in gambling is not comfortable with me, it's between the gambler and the house.

If a gambler's money finishes, he should stop gambling and focus on other things. But, in the brain of the gambler, it's not simple to see a gambler who stops after losing all his money. The addiction creates more opportunities in the player's brain, to look out for means of earning money. That's why a good number of gamblers do the wrong thing to gamble. Most times the avenue they explore is mainly illicit, endangering the life of the gambler and his family in the long run. Because once he can't pay his debts, the gambler's family may be compelled to clear it on behalf of the gambler. The process now gets harder for the gambler and his loved ones. Such gamblers who don't mind managing their funds, even when equipped with a good paying business or work, they'll lose out on it and crumple the business. It's quite a tough experience to see gambling as a way of earning money. The game may offer wins, but the thoughts can be damaging to the wealth of inexperienced gamblers.

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December 25, 2023, 03:01:31 PM
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Someone should look for alternative ways that can provide additional income than asking other people to finance their gambling.

This has been diverted to the topic already. It's not the content of the topic since "financing a gambler?" means like a professional work, like a gambler has the skills but doesn't have the capital in gambling, and with that, he'll be looking for financers and they'll have an agreemnet on how they'll split up the profit in case the gambler wins, but if it goes otherwise, the gambler will have not liability, or whatsoever.
Actually, not really because if we meet a friend who asks us to finance his gambling and we can advise him to find a job so he can have money to finance his gambling. After having money from his job, he does not ask other people to finance his gambling and he is free to use his salary to gamble and to meet his living needs.

It would be better for him because he would not face the risk of returning his money to the money lender. And he also won't have problems with other people and can gamble using his own money. Hopefully, you can understand what it means.

The point is someone needs help in terms of financing his gambling activities, things that have arrangements between the person either a friend
or a relative who's asking for assistance, though still not a good idea even how good the gambler is.

Still at risk since the investment or the loan money will be used for gambling and there's no assurance that you can always win even how good
you are in terms of controlling yourself or managing your emotions and bankroll.

The outcome still unpredictable and if things didn't go well the money will disappear.
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