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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic. These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
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November 03, 2023, 03:36:49 PM |
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic. These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously? I don't think AI can replace every job out there. Nursing for example can't be done by AI imo. How teh fuck AI can fix your pipe? Many jobs will be lost without a doubt but saying that there won't be any work is not realistic. AI can't even finish programming jobs. All we'll have is better (human) software engineers because they can save so much time now. I think people are overrating AI a bit too much. People said the same thing when kiosks invaded McD's but here we are, they still have many human employees taking orders. Kiosks only reduced the lines in these stores. Also these machines are not set and forget. There will always be some people doing their maintenance and they won't work for free too. Machines ain't as cost effective as people think it will.
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November 03, 2023, 04:20:44 PM |
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This is not just a normal prediction, but the space CEO really has a point right there; this is already beginning to happen. Robots are already gradually taking over the tech industry with their programming skills, which are little to no different from what humans are doing. They have been said to be even faster at getting work done and detecting problems where there is a perfect solution for them. Most companies are now replacing their customer support agents with AI's. When you call or need any assistance, the AI will be there for you, and they get things done up to some certain level. Unless the issue is now more complicated, they will redirect you to the banking sector, which is doing this right now. They now have a robot that helps them attend to customer complaints through their app or designated number. How long do you think it will take them and the programmer to perfect this AI to the point where they will not be needing a human agent to get issues resolved? Currently, there are fewer people working on most companies support systems, and due to this new AI technology, many might have been transferred to other departments or fired due to their attention no longer being needed.
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November 03, 2023, 04:27:07 PM |
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic. These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously? Of course, what Elon Musk said should not be taken lightly, currently many people are competing for a job, but when robots + AI develop further, human competitors will also increase, in the future humans must prepare themselves because several types of jobs will be available replaced by robots and AI, and actually, we cannot stop this, currently what we have to think about is a way out so that humans can still get money to meet their daily needs later, and cryptocurrency is actually the answer, but we have to develop it deeper.
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November 03, 2023, 04:37:48 PM |
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Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.
That's quite biased coming from him, as he would naturally have a positive view of his project since he owns an AI company. While we can't deny that AI can handle tasks that don't require human involvement, it's unlikely to completely replace people in the workforce. However, we need to embrace these changes and the best approach is not to complain, but to enhance our skills so we aren't left behind in terms of opportunities, because AI is capable of handling some of our tasks. We appreciate that AI is making our work easier. However, we may not be aware that if we rely entirely on AI, it could replace our jobs. So, even though Elon's statement might be exaggerated, we should think about this chance. We need to find ways to avoid negative consequences when AI becomes more prevalent.
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November 03, 2023, 04:46:17 PM |
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I don't think AI can replace every job out there. Nursing for example can't be done by AI imo. How teh fuck AI can fix your pipe? Many jobs will be lost without a doubt but saying that there won't be any work is not realistic. AI can't even finish programming jobs. All we'll have is better (human) software engineers because they can save so much time now. I think people are overrating AI a bit too much. People said the same thing when kiosks invaded McD's but here we are, they still have many human employees taking orders. Kiosks only reduced the lines in these stores. Also these machines are not set and forget. There will always be some people doing their maintenance and they won't work for free too. Machines ain't as cost effective as people think it will.
imagine a machine that uses the full light spectrum on a camera to see a patients vein and uses a robotic arm that doesnt shake or slip with a 0.001mm precision to put a canular in a vein and then knows precise dosages to pump into the patient imagine a machine that can see plumbing and and can scan the piping to know what replacement is needed and cut and fit it with robotic arms when most programs are just a jumble of pre existing commands/functions/api's and engines with a bit of custom code to link it all together. AI can certainly do more in less time to turn code into game storyline those McD's kiosks may look complicated. but just attach motorised wheels underneath and they can self remove themselves from public space and a replacement drives into its spot when one fails. McD's are already working on robot chefs.. did you know that all them ready meal burgers(90second microwave) are 90% cooked and packaged at a factory are not cooked and packaged by humans. McD's just has to emulate the mass production factories, but on a individual scale where they just cook til finished rather than stop at 90%.. self cleaning toilets is a thing too. as are roomba's and other floor cleaning robots if you think that the mcD's kiosks, roomba's are hand built by humans.. you might want to look at a electronics factory. machines build those kiosks
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November 03, 2023, 04:46:45 PM |
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<...> do you think we should take him seriously?
In this respect, I agree with freedomgo: That's quite biased coming from him, as he would naturally have a positive view of his project since he owns an AI company.
To begin with, if what someone tells you coincides with their economic interest, it should raise suspicions. It is clear that AI is already causing a change in the labour market. At the very least it will make jobs disappear and change the way others are done, but it remains to be seen whether all human labour will disappear or not, and in any case it will not happen overnight. If the change is very radical and many people become unemployed, a universal basic income will eventually be introduced.
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November 03, 2023, 04:54:14 PM |
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic. These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously? The article was interesting but they are using lots of smoke and mirrors. There was a remake of battlestar galatica around 2004. In it there are ai robots that appear to be human in everyway. I do not think we will get there more likely we will die before that.
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November 03, 2023, 05:10:12 PM |
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The world of business has always pivoted about reducing cost of production or rendering a service with regards to maximizing profit. With AI stepping into the scenes, it cuts across payment of salaries/wages to staff while spending a few $ on maintenance. Although, some AI are just programs within the system and as well, cuts the human effort that would have been needed in taking note of critical data and its analysis.
The fine line of cost of production or acquiring some of these AI and the need for a human interaction has been some of the maintained distance between having these AIs flooded in various fields but then, it’s sure to harm the lab out market if allowed to be the other of the day. Not everyone is meant to be CEOs and we can’t all be in the civil service job.
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November 03, 2023, 05:28:32 PM |
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He may be correct about humanoids being friends to the people that struggles to have friends in real life. Since they'll just be programmed to be friendly with their serving master and will be considered it as their friend for interaction. But with several sectors that employs people, I don't think that AI will replace them. Let's say that there have been helpful technologies that will to increase the production and accuracy of a company but some certain jobs can't be replaced. Maybe he's just too futuristic at all and not everything he says will happen and are correct. That's still based on what he think is approaching in the nearest future but still, we're still humans and I don't believe those movies that AIs or robots will go beyond human's thinking.
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November 03, 2023, 05:33:35 PM |
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These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
Even a simple machine without AI already removed tons of job opportunities from human especially on factory which manpower is needed. Heavy Machines makes a lot of people not needed for the job since it’s more efficient. I believe his prediction on AI effect in the future has some merit on it considering how human become more lazy due to technological advancement. I doubt robot can replace human in terms of socialization problem but AI technology might dominate the manpower industry especially the call center area and other work that can be done through the use of internet as source.
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November 03, 2023, 05:46:54 PM |
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic. These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously? That is a real possibility even if I think we will still need a few decades before that happens, but it is surely coming, however I do not think you can stop it, a business owner has the incentive to reduce costs in order to boost their profits, and without a doubt AI and robotics will be cheaper than human labor, however what to do when that happens? Charge a massive amount of taxes to those business and create Universal Basic Income for everyone? I do not know but that could be an alternative once that happens.
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November 03, 2023, 06:13:07 PM |
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These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
AI is a threat to workers as they are already doing people’s jobs and their perfection is almost 100% compare to human as they do no error and work as programmed. If people keep using AI, they will find the use of AI very easy and more cheaper than employing human because working with human have some disadvantages which include human error, theft and others. AI work is good but will make humans to lose their jobs and most people who work for pay do depend on that money to feed their family.
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November 03, 2023, 06:13:50 PM |
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic. These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously? I can't really disagree to Elon's statement. There will be many jobs that AI can't replace. But there are many jobs as well, where AI will eventually replace humans. Especially those jobs, which are repetitive in nature. For example accounting! I have personally led a team to automate the entire bank reconciliation process for a large international travel company in the past. Now that entire function of bank reconciliation is just manned by one very experienced person who check the contras thrown by the system. Which used to be a department, is now manned by only one person. So there will be many jobs that will get eventually replaced by AI in future. So I feel a strong urge to regulate AI. Elon is a visionary. I wouldn't dare to take his words lightly.
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November 03, 2023, 06:15:32 PM |
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If AI can replace the human labor force then let it be. We will create other job categories where AI can not be used. It seems impossible to some people but just think AI was also impossible to imagine in the 18th century. So you will never know how things are going to evolve. These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
I don't know about others but I am taking him seriously. If a car can drive on its own and Alexa can book an appointment for you with your doctor then it is also possible that a humanoid machine will work on the field, mine, or in factories. I don't think we need to be concerned about it. I think this will boost our production rate and work efficiency. Our economy will create other job opportunities that can not be done by AI. It is not possible to 100% depend on AI.
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He talks about the future as if its about to happen but this isn't something that can happen during the lifetime of his child. I mean not at least when he is a child, could be true when that child is old, but I do not think that it would be much of a help. All that "I robot" type of things are not happening anytime soon, neither AI nor humanoid robots could takeover anything for decades and decades, they are at infancy stages, humanoid robots not even that. So we are just going to have to accept the fact that we will have to keep on working for our life, maybe our grandchildren will be luckier than us, or maybe even their children, but not us, we will keep on working until we retire for sure.
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Renampun
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November 03, 2023, 06:51:01 PM |
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He talks about the future as if its about to happen but this isn't something that can happen during the lifetime of his child. I mean not at least when he is a child, could be true when that child is old, but I do not think that it would be much of a help. All that "I robot" type of things are not happening anytime soon, neither AI nor humanoid robots could takeover anything for decades and decades, they are at infancy stages, humanoid robots not even that. So we are just going to have to accept the fact that we will have to keep on working for our life, maybe our grandchildren will be luckier than us, or maybe even their children, but not us, we will keep on working until we retire for sure.
I can't imagine what will happen to our children and grandchildren when humanoid robots become perfect and live side by side with humans, it will definitely be an extraordinary and tense experience, however I agree with you that the thing that Elon Musk is afraid of is probably will happen in the next few decades and until now there are many big companies competing to develop their own robots, including Elon Musk himself, what I'm quite surprised about is Elon Musk insinuating about robots and AI which he is actually also developing lol.
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Twentyonepaylots
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November 03, 2023, 06:55:02 PM |
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It is such a complex topic to talk about, it is indeed true that AI we can see the massive help of AI on every industry but we've got so much to learn about AI whether it could replace all of our work. Yes, AI does a great job in automating tasks and most of our jobs but there are some things that AI can't do especially with jobs that suggests or may need a very sharp decision making. We have seen AI enhancing what we created, thus giving us more ideas and creative innovation but I don't think that this is enough to conclude that it will end our working power. What I see in the future is a collaboration of humans and AI, unfortunately it is inevitably to affect the employment rate of one's country because human+AI is less work.
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ZAINmalik75
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November 03, 2023, 07:21:23 PM |
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic. These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously? A lot of topics have been made to discuss this issue, but from all of them, I learned that AI cannot replace humans, no matter how efficient they are, how complex they are, how easy they are, or how obeying they are. It does not matter to humans; they can't have feelings, they can't sense fear or the terror of death, and they can't have the instinct to survive in disasters like humans do. I don't think Elon is some guy who has full information or ideas about AI and how it can replace humans, but I do agree that he has seen things we don't, he must have experienced technologies we haven't even heard about. But in the end, AI is just a program that is designed and manufactured by humans and will need maintenance and grading. And do you really think that the friend or ROBO friend that Elon is suggesting to have for his son will be a genuine one? Will that robo friend keep all the secrets safe and not share them with the dad Elon? That robot friend will be a spy, not a friend.
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Miles2006
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November 03, 2023, 07:22:37 PM |
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there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant.
Even if this is possible, even if robots wants to take over human services, of which it can never be possible why? Not all companies can afford robots for service, even in this digital dispensation some people will not be part of the modern technology. Even if this is possible is there any need. First let's be realistic can Robots take over humans services, robots are only programmed to carry some certain task not all task, secondly humans are always cooperative so when it comes to task that needs group of people to accomplish a particular aim how can robots fulfill those task. I see no reason comparing an artificial made with humans, despite the digital world where every companies and organization wants to be part of all this new technology and robots saying robots service are the best, fast and accurate good no doubt but how sure we can trust these robots to carry out task
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