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November 04, 2023, 10:15:53 AM
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And even in cases where automation does replace certain repetitive (or routine tasks), there are usually new opportunities that arise, requiring human creativity, empathy, and problem-solving skills. For example, empathy is not something you can get from AI.

You have well observed this lacuna in AI technology and that has been identified by the neuroscience even though I have read that they are working on that to at least have a mimic version of human emotion. This I don't believe is perfectly achievable because it will all confirm the fake version of the original.

Well musk might be laying his staff off while replacing them with AI because they could be perfect for his kind of investment but definitely not for all spheres of live.

He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends.

He should tell his son to think like a human being and not a robot then certain he would attract his likes. Human have blood, feelings and emotion, feels empathy and happy at a point but robots lack those.

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November 04, 2023, 10:24:52 AM
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If AI/robot can become a doctor, business owner, pilot, driver or engineer, it's true if AI will take over every jobs.

Above jobs I mentioned are need situational decision because the situation and condition are always changing. Maybe AI/robot could do that in the future since technology always improving, but in our generations, I could say we're safe.

The AI/robot need to have a very good sensory and tons of codes to have every decisions in different situation and condition.


But this should only be limited as it's impossible that AI will replace human in the working field. You know, the population increases in a daily basis...., as according to https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/planet-earth/state-of-the-planet/world-population-clock-live

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If AI continues to be the main thing, it could lead to a problem called underemployment. That's not good because it can cause significant issues, such as more crime due to people not having enough work and going hungry. This wouldn't make the world a better place to live.

So, let's not worry too much. AI is going to stay, and it's very helpful. But it would be a problem if the people who make AI end up taking away jobs from humans and causing them to struggle.

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November 04, 2023, 11:53:43 AM
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I am not a fan of Elon Musk but obviously, a lot of us can say the same. AI will not only grow in the future but it also develop into something big which will become a necessity just like the internet. AI will continue to replace human workers but not the entirety of course but it could take most of the jobs in the future.

I am not worried for myself. But people should seriously start being more responsible in starting a family. Children in the future will have a harder time getting jobs without having college degrees. People in the future should stop relying on the hope of getting a job outside their country because most of these rich countries are the ones to start using AI.

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November 04, 2023, 12:35:08 PM
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It won’t put an end to all work but a large number of occupations could be done by AI. Obviously physical jobs like neighbourhood garbage disposal teams can’t be done by AI but clerical jobs can be undertaken by computer systems. I think AI is a brilliant innovation that can really help humanity but there is a fine like between helping & hindering. I think we need to be very careful with how far AI can go, how far it is pushed.

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These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
AI can clearly be both beneficial and detrimental, I think the gap is significant. AI can really make things easier for humans, especially work, on the other hand, it is very dangerous if used for crime. I once watched Elon in an interview on TV, he even said that AI is more dangerous than nuclear if controlled by bad people. In essence, AI can be programmed to be more evil and it can be programmed to be better. it depends on who makes it, for good or for evil.

The main danger of AI is that rich people no longer need ordinary people, everything can be done with a few factory workers using AI, soldiers need AI and drones, police and others are also the same. I think it must be taken seriously, indeed AI cannot replace humans, but what if it is used by bad people?
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November 04, 2023, 02:18:42 PM
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These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
AI can clearly be both beneficial and detrimental, I think the gap is significant. AI can really make things easier for humans, especially work, on the other hand, it is very dangerous if used for crime. I once watched Elon in an interview on TV, he even said that AI is more dangerous than nuclear if controlled by bad people. In essence, AI can be programmed to be more evil and it can be programmed to be better. it depends on who makes it, for good or for evil.

The main danger of AI is that rich people no longer need ordinary people, everything can be done with a few factory workers using AI, soldiers need AI and drones, police and others are also the same. I think it must be taken seriously, indeed AI cannot replace humans, but what if it is used by bad people?
That is the current problem so that many parties do not agree with the development of AI because it has the potential for many negative things to happen when it is misused and there are also many parties who will suffer losses, especially workers, although on the other hand, factory entrepreneurs and others can take advantage of it. more effectively than human work.

In fact, AI may replace humans in certain places, but currently there are still many pros and cons, so AI development is not very fast because there are still people who reject it.
Personally, I don't agree that AI will replace human jobs.
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November 04, 2023, 02:26:59 PM
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
If AI can work instead of humans and humans will be able to spend their time freely instead of working, why is that bad? But if there is no need of human involvement in work, then that can really become a problem because if humans won't be occupied with job, violence may increase or humans will only prioritize to get max pleasure and that is the moment when population will shrink because its a well known fact that people in developed countries where salaries are high, tend to born less children than those who live in poor countries.
In one of his interview, he also said that he believes there were nations before us, those who build pyramids and they all died. He said that he thinks humans will die too but he hopes we will live as long as possible. His prediction is probably right because right now we are entering the era of artificial intelligence, an era where robots can work instead of humans. It has pros and cons but increased development also leads to other increased risks that I already talked about.

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November 04, 2023, 02:43:59 PM
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I am not a fan of Elon Musk but obviously, a lot of us can say the same. AI will not only grow in the future but it also develop into something big which will become a necessity just like the internet. AI will continue to replace human workers but not the entirety of course but it could take most of the jobs in the future.

I am not worried for myself. But people should seriously start being more responsible in starting a family. Children in the future will have a harder time getting jobs without having college degrees. People in the future should stop relying on the hope of getting a job outside their country because most of these rich countries are the ones to start using AI.

In as much as I think Artificial intelligence is growing rapidly over the internet, I still think it will remain within the reach of internet. AI only has the knowledge of what is been programmed into his system, AI can't do without human as well. What I think AI is going to do for human is to help reduce efforts and time spent in doing or carrying out works that we do.

If a doctor spent 13 hours a day for research, AI will help him in doing research to reduce that time to 6 - 7 hours of time to do his research, but as I said AI cannot exist on their own, they need the help of intelligent men to built this, without them understanding the nature of human, it cannot be established or program into this machine that can help humans.

However, I'm concerned about how lazy people will become if they depend on this AI of a thing. People now use AI to write articles, do research and also assignment and this is going to a challenge because it will make student become too lazy to do things on their own. Imagine having a graduate who use AI to write an article throughout his entire time in school can't write it by himself after graduation. Who is going to impact real knowledge to the younger generations. Real Education will die with the revolution of AI.

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November 04, 2023, 03:19:25 PM
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Not every country is as technologically advanced as the U.S.

good point, even if ai were to replace all humans in the workforce it will take a really long time for less developed countries to have ai operating as effectively as ai in say first world countries ai wouldn’t be cost-friendly so countries or companies would really have to invest a huge amount of their money to have ai working compared to if they just hired employees who could just be as good as ai

i’d say that there is a possibility for ai to replace at least 60% of humans in the workforce although that’s still far in the future ai still can’t generate art with precise details or create images that seem natural

ai can not read social cues or empathize like humans do so for sure there will still be plenty of jobs, especially those that require human interaction, left for well… humans.

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So lets say a quality robot gets made and we as humans no longer need to work.

We all can't be artists what would we do with our spare time?

Most likely we would fuck up and hurt ourselves and others. For most of us timing in our self-esteem to our job has been the normal thing to do. I would think many people would simply drink or drug themselves into a stupor.

So we then have 1 or 2 billion stoners wandering around that used to work. The job kept them out of trouble.

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November 04, 2023, 03:46:51 PM
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Elon Musk's opinion doesn't mean anything to me, but let's discuss the topic itself. AI is pretty disruptive and exciting, but even Elon Musk doesn't say AI will put an end to jobs. In the video clip, he says people would be able to do jobs for self-satisfaction, but not out of necessity, so it's not a gloomy prediction, really.
If there's no need for people to work, it doesn't mean people will be poor. If robots generate wealth, it can simply be distributed among the people. Also, I honestly don't think that will happen in the near future. New technologies tend to create new kinds of jobs, not just take the previous ones. And there are still lots of jobs AI can't perform nearly as good as human specialists, despite all the progress we've seen. So I don't think we'll see that world where all jobs can be done by robots/AI and humans only work out of desire within our lifetimes.

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November 04, 2023, 04:39:51 PM
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I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.
In general, it may not replace humans en masse, but it will limit humans due to the presence of sophisticated AI tools in certain jobs. Elon Musk is crazy about developing something he wants and he is not the typical person who likes to give up when he fails. In fact, he failed several times on the rocket project built by SpaceX, but that didn't stop his intention to develop it and the series of businesses he developed will definitely become pilot projects. So I still think this is a crazy project that he wants to develop successfully and he will not stop at the small failures experienced.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
I saw this long before Elon Musk said it. For example, in the agricultural sector, which used to use traditional methods which were done using human power, but now many have been replaced by machines so that many people have lost their jobs in this sector. There are times when we need to take this matter much more seriously because in technological developments nothing is impossible, it's just that we will wait for the time to come.

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November 04, 2023, 04:42:22 PM
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It must be admitted that AI is developing very quickly and it is likely that it will replace humans in some fields, especially manual, heavy jobs. But to say that it will completely replace humans in all fields is impossible. The world cannot exist with only machines and machines. Furthermore, I don't think the world will fall into a scenario like Marvell's fantasy films, that's quite far from us. It will not be possible for robots to have emotions and take over our planet. Humans are smarter than robots or anything else in this world, it is humans who create AI and robots, not them who create humans.
Yeah, I know that AI bots are not filled with emotions to deal with related things but it's true that they can take care of some sort of things. And it is also true that we made them but it's not like a chemical reaction which causes disease and for its containment we made medicines. We are talking about AI robots which are smarter than humans, but if they are out of control and they know everything because of knowledge and access how we can control them what will we do? Today I watched a video with a caption that horses are the first ones who lose their job because of AI. Below I am giving the link of that video so you can easily watch how AI can replace things.

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November 04, 2023, 05:09:02 PM
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Sometimes technological developments cannot be stopped, so we have to keep up with developments. In my opinion, AI can be said to be a complement to being more productive. For those involved in digital marketing and digital writing, it is very helpful. because it must also be instilled in our mindset. AI is not a substitute for human creativity, but it still requires human creativity.

AI cannot replace humans, but it can streamline the workforce in companies and if everyone uses AI, small businesses will go bankrupt. In my opinion, not everything is done by AI and there are some parts that AI cannot do. The development of AI is still very far away so there is no need to be too afraid of the development of AI as a substitute for human work.

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November 04, 2023, 05:14:45 PM
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Yes it will put an end to work but the poverty would still be there, what Elon's trying to say is that AI will replace a large number of workers which is going to benefit the companies because with more AI on the workforce, the less people working on the company they're going to pay and with less people to pay then they will get more profits out of the company and when there's more profits then they can further influence the government through lobbying so people won't be able to complain about how they've lost their jobs to AI and that they should be compensated because they're occupationally displaced but with the lobbying it becomes impossible to do so, that's what those little words mean at least to me.
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
If AI can work instead of humans and humans will be able to spend their time freely instead of working, why is that bad? But if there is no need of human involvement in work, then that can really become a problem because if humans won't be occupied with job, violence may increase or humans will only prioritize to get max pleasure and that is the moment when population will shrink because its a well known fact that people in developed countries where salaries are high, tend to born less children than those who live in poor countries.
In one of his interview, he also said that he believes there were nations before us, those who build pyramids and they all died. He said that he thinks humans will die too but he hopes we will live as long as possible. His prediction is probably right because right now we are entering the era of artificial intelligence, an era where robots can work instead of humans. It has pros and cons but increased development also leads to other increased risks that I already talked about.
Bad in the sense that they would really be losing up some work and this isnt something that very good into our hearing considering that each one of us does really need up that dayjob.
If there would really be some integrations then it would really be putting up that kind of harm into someones job not unless if they are that jobless on the time but if its a sudden decision that
you've been kicked out or removed into a certain job because of such thing then that would really be definitely a bad news for you and this is something that wont really be that ideal on the first place.
In overall, we do know on whats the pros or advantage of it which it would really be that bringing out that big convenience specially for us who do make out some hard work which this kind of
integration would really be making up things to be more that convenient.

It do really just turns out that effects and those replacing up peoples job would really be having that significant impact on a certain industry which it would really be leaving up that trace
on not needing anymore workforce or something that involves human but just like on what others been saying that there are really indeed still jobs which
AI cant really be able to handle.

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November 04, 2023, 05:36:44 PM
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These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
Computers took over the job of typewriters. We've heard that AI will take over the jobs of humans but that is not the problem. The problem is,  what are humans doing about it particularly those who are afraid. Are they up skilling to get themselves ready? Or are they whining. There is a certainty that the jobs that exist today will not exist in the next 50 years whether there is AI or not the only people who would benefit from job change are those who upgrade their skill sets or learn a new different skills to fit into their reality. I don't care what Elon says, you all need to re-read the writing on the wall.

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These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
Computers took over the job of typewriters. We've heard that AI will take over the jobs of humans but that is not the problem. The problem is,  what are humans doing about it particularly those who are afraid. Are they up skilling to get themselves ready? Or are they whining. There is a certainty that the jobs that exist today will not exist in the next 50 years whether there is AI or not the only people who would benefit from job change are those who upgrade their skill sets or learn a new different skills to fit into their reality. I don't care what Elon says, you all need to re-read the writing on the wall.

The world is changing faster than our age especially the economy. There is a wide range of jobs we have in our economy that no one imagined 50 years ago. If your grandpa ever thinks of it, there will be jobs for data analysts, marketing experts, web security expert etc! There are so many new job positions that exist in the market right now that will be occupied by the AI but that doesn't mean there won't be new job positions for humans that we can not think of today. Those who are whining are afraid of new changes when the solution is to adapt them in our lives.

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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

With the presence of AI, of course this can provide certain benefits and can help and make it easier for us to do our work. However, AI not only brings benefits but also comes with threats. And one of the threats from the presence of AI is the potential replacement or loss of human jobs, especially in the manufacturing, banking and service sectors. So that people who work in this sector are threatened with layoffs which results in the number of unemployed continuing to increase.

And in responding to this problem, however, we cannot go against the development of the times "and will only die silly if we have to collide with such a big wave." But we also can't just sit around without doing anything. Before we completely lose the job we are enjoying now, prepare yourself to face all the possibilities that will happen in our lives, one of which is by continuing to increase our creativity and abilities so that we can have jobs that cannot be replaced by AI. And several observers have indicated that there are several types of jobs that cannot be replaced by AI, including; Artists, politicians, health workers, engineers, athletes and farmers. So before AI completely replaces our jobs, make sure that we have mastered one of the jobs that cannot be replaced by AI so that we always have the income to survive in an era full of challenges and threats.
Tons of people would really be jobless since AI would really be taking over and this is something that we dont really like to hear but we know that advancement is really that inevitable on which means that in case if this one happens then there's no other choice but to find for another job on which we do see that we could really be able to fit out. This is why if you are currently on a certain field of work on which you do see
that it does have potential to be replaced with some AI integration then it would be wise that you should really be that already prepared for possible things to happen in the future.
This is why it would really be that recommended that you do have your own business or investment so that on the time that you are been fired off or laid off then you arent that scared
since you know that you could really make yourself that able to survive even if it would happens.

I personally for now have begun to diligently save a portion of my income every week. And besides that, I have also made small investments, one of which I invested in crypto. Even though the value of savings and investments that I do is not large, I always try to remain consistent in doing this so that the value of my savings and investments continues to grow every week, month and every year. And I do this so that at least when I get laid off, I still have some money to build a new business and as a provision for life in the next few years.

Apart from the threat of AI trying to replace some human jobs, but we will also never know what threats will face our lives next, so prepare everything as well and as much as possible so that we can always find solutions to every problem that comes.

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November 04, 2023, 07:28:46 PM
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I can't imagine what will happen to our children and grandchildren when humanoid robots become perfect and live side by side with humans, it will definitely be an extraordinary and tense experience, however I agree with you that the thing that Elon Musk is afraid of is probably will happen in the next few decades and until now there are many big companies competing to develop their own robots, including Elon Musk himself, what I'm quite surprised about is Elon Musk insinuating about robots and AI which he is actually also developing lol.
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This is where capitalism comes into play. When the first machinery for automation and so forth started, with Henry Ford making it perfect with assembly line, people assumed we would get a lot more free time, and that did not happen, capitalists made more money while we starved. If AI and Humanoid robots happen one day, it all depends on how capitalists approach it. Look at Tesla that Elon owns now, has factories with minimum working people, does that make Tesla more affordable, or life cheaper for us? Of course not, we are just unemployed and doing horrible. When the world reach that level, if we do not have universal basic income for everyone, then we will just be fired and unemployed and starving while rich just use robots to get richer.

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