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November 04, 2023, 07:44:31 PM |
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(...)the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed.(...) These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
- I agree with Elon Musk's point of view that if there is no management, it will become a threat, and not only AI, but almost every tool that supports human life needs to be managed. Of course, how to manage is a very complex issue that requires many different studies to apply effectively. - However, like many discussions on various AI topics, I think fear is inevitable when people limit their own abilities in the face of changes in science and technology. Instead, adaptation and learning in these new fields need to be more widespread. Previously, the ethical issue I heard also presented a view that not only on AI but it needs to be enhanced for humans. I also don't have much experience in using, controlling, or programming to develop AI, but I admit that the huge potential value of the ability to solve problems in life is very impressive. There are things that we know have changed in the past, like the emergence of the Internet has changed and connected people, and with it there are always dangerous things that appear. So you should put your worries aside and remember the need to adapt to every situation, and I hope that our generation will witness an era of science and technology that will bring more achievements.
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November 04, 2023, 07:44:55 PM |
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Elon Musk is absolutely right artificial intelligence would put many out of work and using an example That I am currently witnessing in my country, formerly photographers use to make it big especially during celebrations like weddings and birthdays for example but now people are moving towards using artificial intelligence generated pictures this puts the photographers out of business, this is just an example of how artificial intelligence is taking over people's job with time it would be worse .
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November 04, 2023, 08:01:10 PM |
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People have the same attitude towards cheaper labor, immigration or just non union work. Labor cost is an expense to every business like anything else, raise the fuel cost too much and a business can fail or be restricted in its ability to proceed and develop. Same thing with labor, its not quite the negative that might be assumed as more freely available labor market via AI efficiencies and capabilities coming online will actually enable a greater range of business to proceed. How many people here believe AI can do everything a human can do with perfect ability to replace that person. Even years from now people will be far better at things computers have no comprehension of, we're discussing primarily and firstly the most repetitive boring jobs and of course do repetitive simple tasks far more easily then humans. It is a positive to redirect humans towards better uses, premium photography for example will always be a thing just like record players replaced some street bands a hundred or so years ago we now have both still.
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November 04, 2023, 08:12:32 PM |
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Humans will always be unique and possess qualities that even robots and AI lack. I'll continue to embrace and maximize my human nature to stay productive and thrive. We should all start honing our skills to compete with AI. Alternatively, if we can grow even further, we should become humans who utilize the presence of robots and AI, not be replaced by them. https://builtin.com/artificial-intelligence/risks-of-artificial-intelligencePredictions suggest that by 2030, around 30% of jobs in the US will be replaced by AI. This means they also assume that AI won't take over all human jobs, as humans will still be needed as employees or in specific fields. At the very least, even if our positions are threatened by AI, don't panic about what's to come. We are human and have qualities that AI can't replicate. It's better if we implement a principle of collaboration between humans and AI to work together, not to replace jobs. AI is here to complement, not to substitute, and that might make us feel more at ease and less stressed during this transitional period.
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November 04, 2023, 08:23:15 PM |
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We haven't had the AI yet but there are already massive layoffs everywhere so there gotta be truth to what they are saying about WEF when everything works according to their plans, workers are replaced by robots in a smart city they'd build.
Elon of all people has been developing an AI, he should know how sophisticated AIs have become. The robots at MIT can even be deployed in a war in which they can shoot weapons and decide when to shoot or not.
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November 04, 2023, 08:30:42 PM |
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic. P These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously? This not the first time this has been discussed. And people have said it before and I am also saying it again and also you said the in the thread clearly that AI or ChatGTP can't take over the activities of human beings. It is not only Elon Musk but others had also predicted that computer will replace human beings from their jobs but we all know that that is not possible because those tools are programmed so they can't think the way human think. Though they can perform even more than human but diversification of thinking is what we talking of and not activities. Human Beings can perform a task for days while a robot can do it within a day or seconds but what how about the thinking. Who created the robot or the AI? All will still boiled down to humans.
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November 04, 2023, 08:41:46 PM |
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Humans will always be unique and possess qualities that even robots and AI lack. I'll continue to embrace and maximize my human nature to stay productive and thrive. We should all start honing our skills to compete with AI. Alternatively, if we can grow even further, we should become humans who utilize the presence of robots and AI, not be replaced by them.
Why do we need to compete with AI? Aren't we the ones who created them and placed them where they are now? I consider AI an extra hand to help me with my work load. They help me to do things fast so that I can use that extra time I saved somewhere productive. We don't need to match up our skills with AI as we will never be able to do that if that AI is well programmed. Humans will be the ones to manage and give commands to those AIs. There will be new types of job positions in the industry. You don't know how things will evolve but just think have you ever thought that a digital form of money will appear in the industry and shake the whole world with its presence before the release of the bitcoin whitepaper? Evolution is beautiful and we should embrace it. At the very least, even if our positions are threatened by AI, don't panic about what's to come. We are human and have qualities that AI can't replicate. It's better if we implement a principle of collaboration between humans and AI to work together, not to replace jobs. AI is here to complement, not to substitute, and that might make us feel more at ease and less stressed during this transitional period.
You are talking like AI is a new species that is threatening our existence. Don't forget we are the ones who developed and are going to put those AI to work. They can not do anything that we don't want them to do. They don't have emotional or critical thinking abilities. As you have said "AI is here to complement".
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November 04, 2023, 09:19:36 PM |
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Elon Musk is absolutely right artificial intelligence would put many out of work and using an example That I am currently witnessing in my country, formerly photographers use to make it big especially during celebrations like weddings and birthdays for example but now people are moving towards using artificial intelligence generated pictures this puts the photographers out of business, this is just an example of how artificial intelligence is taking over people's job with time it would be worse .
That is the disadvantage of AI it will replace people and many will be jobless how do they survive after they dont have jobs will the government take responsibility of looking out for them. My country is not experiencing much due to many things they don't take technology serious their attention is somewhere else which is money. But with time a lot of attention will go there and it will have serious impact because even the level of poverty were do people start from when they are sacked. Not only photographers are been affected but a lot of businesses. And countries with larger population what will be their solution, just trying to figure out what the alternative will be.
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November 04, 2023, 09:25:52 PM Last edit: November 05, 2023, 02:44:11 AM by Samlucky O |
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic. These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously? I think several issues like this has been treated here in this forum. AI to replace manpower can not be fully Achieved. Humans are the creator of AI which mean dey must sublet to the command of human. AI has been produces to serve human, and not the other way round.the fact still remains that AI can not replace man in time of work. doctors, teacher, fashion designer and other sensitive works will be handle by man. So the fact remains that they will replace man in some areas and not all.
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November 04, 2023, 09:55:03 PM |
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Elon Musk is absolutely right artificial intelligence would put many out of work and using an example That I am currently witnessing in my country, formerly photographers use to make it big especially during celebrations like weddings and birthdays for example but now people are moving towards using artificial intelligence generated pictures this puts the photographers out of business, this is just an example of how artificial intelligence is taking over people's job with time it would be worse .
There's an assurance of free to work when every aspect of the economy are fast developing means of getting their works done easier and faster through the use of artificial intelligence and most organizations are today keeping to this bee developments because they want a better offer and a new approach to how they get things done, this may render people off their work duties when the AI technology is performing most of human roles, but yet, there will still be more open opportunities for others in this same field while some are loosing their job.
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November 04, 2023, 10:28:44 PM |
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Elon of all people has been developing an AI, he should know how sophisticated AIs have become. The robots at MIT can even be deployed in a war in which they can shoot weapons and decide when to shoot or not.
Elon Musk hasn't involved himself in military testing but if he decided to make weapons he'd add many billions to his total wealth. He probably won't do it but we don't know if he'll change his mind in the future. In the future AI's going to be essential we won't evade it as it evolves in our daily life. Human Beings can perform a task for days while a robot can do it within a day or seconds but what how about the thinking. Who created the robot or the AI? All will still boiled down to humans.
If it's still boiled down to humans what's going to happen if AI computes their biggest enemy are humans because they're the ones who can deactivate AI?
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November 04, 2023, 10:59:06 PM |
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Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.
That's quite biased coming from him, as he would naturally have a positive view of his project since he owns an AI company. While we can't deny that AI can handle tasks that don't require human involvement, it's unlikely to completely replace people in the workforce. However, we need to embrace these changes and the best approach is not to complain, but to enhance our skills so we aren't left behind in terms of opportunities, because AI is capable of handling some of our tasks. We appreciate that AI is making our work easier. However, we may not be aware that if we rely entirely on AI, it could replace our jobs. So, even though Elon's statement might be exaggerated, we should think about this chance. We need to find ways to avoid negative consequences when AI becomes more prevalent. Elon is actually rightly on this. AI could outperform the real human tasks and replace us in the process but that will only happen if we don’t seek room of improvement of our own tasks. Let’s just treat AI not as a competitor but a real motivation for us to maximize productivity over quantity. AI may have done our works easier and faster but the outcome is still a lot different when we put some human touch on it, that is by putting some real emotions on the job and not some artificial emotions made from robots. While AI gets a lot more demand in this high technology world, but that should not serve as a threat to us because we all know that we are still more capable to do things at its best. It’s just that when the pressure is too high, we all just resort into leaving our works into AI not realizing that if we all rely into it, it might steal all our jobs and leave us with nothing.
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These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
I do not understand what Elon Musk means by regulating the sector because it seems that it cannot be controlled normally like other sectors. Any development company can work in this field without authoritarian oversight of any kind and without being noticed. Even if the world proceeds with the goal of regulating the sector, this requires a list of rules to which all countries are subject, which they are supposed to impose on the companies operating in them. This is almost impossible to happen in a world with nearly 200 countries. Take climate change, for example. It harms our planet on which we all live, and everyone agrees to limit this change so that we do not reach more disastrous results. What was the result? Summits, conferences, promises, and no real results, even though work on this began many years ago. Today we are facing a real dilemma represented by the danger that artificial intelligence will bring us.
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I would dare to say what Elon says is an overestatement. I do not think machines will be able to fully replace human beings when performing activities. Sure, I assume jobs will start to be taken by robots and Artificial Inteligence powered android, but there will always jobs which will require human talent or human contact.
For example, let us assume you go to a casino and you encounter a robot, instead the usual pretty woman who would Carter you. Do you believe would it be the same for patrons of the casino? I do not think so.
We may reach a time when those jobs were human contact is needed start to get overpaid, or society will become so detached from reality and they won't even care, which would be a very shady scenario to our societies.
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(...) I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. (...)
This belief is completely unreasonable and nothing but wishful thinking. There have been plenty of discussions about technological unemployment (even on this forum) and the only argument for this seems to be that if something didn't happen in the past - it won't happen in the future, which is just silly, as unprecedented things (smaller or bigger) are happening on an everyday basis. Other way of shrugging off the problem is saying that if human work is replaced by "robots", then people will build an alternative economy. This concept is also flawed and would be nothing more than an uglier form of proposed AI regulations. ps. Elon Musk is not the only one saying that. In fact, I don't think there's a single, serious expert/scientist from the relevant field, that would think that human labour is irreplaceable.
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic. These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously? Elon doesn't need to know what he is talking about, so this is the perfect platform for him. He doesn't need to know anything, he needs to fud and use fearmongering as a tool because Elon wants to regulate AI. Not because he would be worried about it, but because he has left behind. If he would own the leading development, he would try to demolish all the restricting regulations from development. Now it's only for companies he didn't get to lead. Elon doesn't know enough about this subject, he jus suffers from delusions of grandeur. And since all his fanbois are fueling the belief of him being a tech Jesus. "There is a safety concern, especially with humanoid robots - at least a car can't chase you into a building or up a tree," he told the audience. I am not sure how much ketamine has he taken lately, but this is just beyond stupid. Should we remind ourselves that Chatgpt for example can't think. It's a language model, and brilliant tool for coding for example. But it doesn't "think". Anyone who has used it long enough start to see how far it is from replacing humans from anything. Sure it can replace some jobs, but those were meaningless jobs in the first place, and of course at some point most of jobs will be automated, but that's not a new thing. That's been increasing since the industrial revolution. And happened way before that.
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November 04, 2023, 11:45:26 PM |
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These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
Although AI is developing very rapidly today and has left many professions at risk, I don't think it will ever leave all professions at risk. Of course, the processes performed by some professions can be handled much faster and more cost-effectively with AI but I don't think this will be the case in all professions. Maybe, with the combination of robots and AI it may be possible that many jobs will be done by AI in the coming years and what I said may be wrong but I think this possibility is quite low. In particular, it is among the possibilities that after such a scenario occurs a very serious unemployment gap will occur and many people's lives will be negatively affected for this reason. If this rate is too high, a restriction or regulation by governments and businesses will be necessary to prevent the chaos that may occur.
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November 04, 2023, 11:52:50 PM |
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While AI gets a lot more demand in this high technology world, but that should not serve as a threat to us because we all know that we are still more capable to do things at its best. It’s just that when the pressure is too high, we all just resort into leaving our works into AI not realizing that if we all rely into it, it might steal all our jobs and leave us with nothing.
If AI's decided humans are a threat to it what's going to happen. It's possible it'll do more than steal our jobs. If AI starts taking steps to defend itself from humans which control it AI's not going to be safe for humans. This isn't science fiction we shouldn't dismiss the danger. Today we are facing a real dilemma represented by the danger that artificial intelligence will bring us.
Investment in tech sector brings innovations so AI isn't a surprise but if that's the danger from AI today what's it going to be like after 1 year. Humans don't want to be architects of their problems so it's better to proceed with extra watchful eyes when AI's evolving.
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Today we are facing a real dilemma represented by the danger that artificial intelligence will bring us.
Investment in tech sector brings innovations so AI isn't a surprise but if that's the danger from AI today what's it going to be like after 1 year. Humans don't want to be architects of their problems so it's better to proceed with extra watchful eyes when AI's evolving. Although it has not been a long time since ChatGPT was launched (about a year), the significant impact on the labor market can be easily noticed in terms of a decline in productivity for human resources and a large percentage of workers losing their jobs. This does not negate the benefits of artificial intelligence, but we still do not know which is more, the benefits or the negatives. Elon Musk's call is very logical at the current stage, especially since there is not much that can be done quickly before things develop for the worse, which is what we seem to be actually facing.
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its always funny seeing elon with all his statements thats against AI as if AI could bring doom towards the entire worlds yet in the meantime he quite literally funded some AI companies and even started out new company that works in development of AI called xAI honestly could we still consider his statement in regard of AI as relevant somehow? because quite frankly speaking he just contradict his own statement with his own action its almost as if elon actually have ulterior motive shilling for the development of AI. moreover the fact that even tesla if i remember also develops robot that powered by AI, if he trying to make regulation maker make the regulation as fast as possible it make sense but honestly elon also want to participate to become one of dominating figure in this field honestly.
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