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November 09, 2023, 07:20:10 AM
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AI won't be able to replace humans in every job but if we're looking at what the future's going to look like it's going to perform some jobs in a better way. AI's going to be perfected to take over any job that's reliant on calculations and accuracy which humans won't be able to do better than AI.

No doubt that AI has made a lot of jobs easier and made people convenient that are in line of their works for the usage of it.
But there are people that should just stop worshiping and idolizing what AIs can do. It's still made by human and there's always the limitation with our knowledge just as is.
There's always the basis of its knowledge and I don't really think that all jobs will be replaced and removed by it.
Yeah, as I have said that there's no doubt with that that some of the jobs will be easier because of AIs and more productive.
But it seems that there are people that have been over exaggerating what AIs can do as of now. I know that in some years in the near future, there can be more of what they can do because they are being developed continuously. But let's just all set to what is in the current.


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November 09, 2023, 07:54:27 AM
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AI won't be able to replace humans in every job but if we're looking at what the future's going to look like it's going to perform some jobs in a better way. AI's going to be perfected to take over any job that's reliant on calculations and accuracy which humans won't be able to do better than AI.

No doubt that AI has made a lot of jobs easier and made people convenient that are in line of their works for the usage of it.
But there are people that should just stop worshiping and idolizing what AIs can do. It's still made by human and there's always the limitation with our knowledge just as is.
There's always the basis of its knowledge and I don't really think that all jobs will be replaced and removed by it.
Yeah, as I have said that there's no doubt with that that some of the jobs will be easier because of AIs and more productive.
But it seems that there are people that have been over exaggerating what AIs can do as of now. I know that in some years in the near future, there can be more of what they can do because they are being developed continuously. But let's just all set to what is in the current.
You should brace for the worst my friend, the AI threat is real if you are an employee, although there is a limit to what they can do. But if not well regulated, it would surely affect the labour market. Whether people exaggerate or not, it's evident around us now and I'm certain that with much development of AIs in some sectors, it might take about 75% of the workforce, it's already happening though people have not started seeing it. AI is just like a human on its own, only that it can't feel but would practically do all that humans could do if it could be coded and built for that task. There is an FX company, one of my mains that is now dealing with clients with AI and this is with over 95% of the deals according to my recent experience.

This ranges from whatever service you can think of to the point I now wonder if there is still a human being there, all fully automated now but was fully manual before. Imagine, such a company would have laid off hundreds of employees but would have gotten away since the world has not started seeing it as an offence or a threat. Thankfully, there are AI conferences many times a year, such started recently by world powers, and I believe it's a way to find a lasting solution to this potential menace.

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November 09, 2023, 11:25:40 AM
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AI is artificial intelligence completely a robot. So a robot can never fully think like a human. It is true that AI will make our jobs much easier and the world of the future will be largely run by robots. However, although Ai is a popular and versatile tool today, in the future I think there will be more powerful tools because today's people always want to innovate.  Humans have created many things since ancient times and this will continue in the future. They will be in trouble for those who cannot upgrade themselves over time.  And these tools will not create any problem for those who can be updated with time

There are so many opportunities that are now available through AI. I think that AI may rule the world. I sometimes wonder what will happen to ordinary workers when all businesses are run by AI. Will ordinary workers lose their jobs?  I don't know if they will lose it or what they will do. But now almost people are enjoying many kinds of benefits using AI. I hope to see AI in a more powerful form in the future.

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November 09, 2023, 11:57:02 AM
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Yeah, as I have said that there's no doubt with that that some of the jobs will be easier because of AIs and more productive.
But it seems that there are people that have been over exaggerating what AIs can do as of now. I know that in some years in the near future, there can be more of what they can do because they are being developed continuously. But let's just all set to what is in the current.
You should brace for the worst my friend, the AI threat is real if you are an employee, although there is a limit to what they can do. But if not well regulated, it would surely affect the labour market. Whether people exaggerate or not, it's evident around us now and I'm certain that with much development of AIs in some sectors, it might take about 75% of the workforce, it's already happening though people have not started seeing it. AI is just like a human on its own, only that it can't feel but would practically do all that humans could do if it could be coded and built for that task. There is an FX company, one of my mains that is now dealing with clients with AI and this is with over 95% of the deals according to my recent experience.

This ranges from whatever service you can think of to the point I now wonder if there is still a human being there, all fully automated now but was fully manual before. Imagine, such a company would have laid off hundreds of employees but would have gotten away since the world has not started seeing it as an offence or a threat. Thankfully, there are AI conferences many times a year, such started recently by world powers, and I believe it's a way to find a lasting solution to this potential menace.
I'm aware of its potential but I wouldn't scare of the innovation that it's going to offer in the real life. The ones that should be threatened are those that are passive and are not willing to upscale their skills.
And the other guy who has said that there are certain labors that it can't replace and that's why it's not going to that extent that everything will be replaced by it.
But you're right, to those that don't skill up, they should embrace for the worst as they're not prepared for it.


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November 09, 2023, 01:16:47 PM
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Possible and those movies that we've watched before that have robots and rebelled against their masters and humanity, that could happen. As much as I don't want to think about it that won't make sense honestly because they're just a few taps away. They are continuously learning and that's what we're seeing with AI and even the developers of it know that it's plausible.
The movies aren't exaggerating there's a real risk to humans if we don't have frame works to regulate AI. If ppl know what's allowed they'll stick to the rules or else they'll go beyond limits. When it's about AI we shouldn't take it with a relaxed outlook because it's serious.
Yes, I know that there's a certain fact from those movies and the situation that we might be in the future. I think that the responsibility are with those developing companies that are into robots and AI. The integration that they make with it should be regulated so that they won't go that far but are we going to stop them with that? no.

But if the time comes that they go against humanity and they're violently programmed, I just hope that there will be organizations or unions for developers that they're going to avoid such programs that can develop into such. Someday works that can be done by AI will be there but I am sure that there will be newly generated tasks and jobs that can only be done by people.
If AI's going to be sentient it's always going to be a risk to humans so there's a possibility AI's going to turn against humanity.
The possibility is there but I won't be thinking that it will come to that point. We're still superior on this matter and I'm sure that those exaggerations won't come and I hope that it won't. Well, the potential is there but I don't want to think about that situation.

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November 09, 2023, 01:21:24 PM
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

Well, you should overestimate Ilona. He is an ordinary person, just like you and me. He has a lot of strange fantasies and vices: does everyone remember that he slept with Cara Delevingne and Amber Heard at the same time? He is a pcst and a very smart person, but at the same time a visionary and a speculator. He speculated with tweets, earning a lot of money.
Do you remember the genius Vitalik Buterin doing something like that? I'm not.

In general, we must not forget that these geniuses are also people, and they cannot predict the future.

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November 09, 2023, 01:30:33 PM
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AI won't be able to replace humans in every job but if we're looking at what the future's going to look like it's going to perform some jobs in a better way. AI's going to be perfected to take over any job that's reliant on calculations and accuracy which humans won't be able to do better than AI.

No doubt that AI has made a lot of jobs easier and made people convenient that are in line of their works for the usage of it.
But there are people that should just stop worshiping and idolizing what AIs can do. It's still made by human and there's always the limitation with our knowledge just as is.
There's always the basis of its knowledge and I don't really think that all jobs will be replaced and removed by it.
Yeah, as I have said that there's no doubt with that that some of the jobs will be easier because of AIs and more productive.
But it seems that there are people that have been over exaggerating what AIs can do as of now. I know that in some years in the near future, there can be more of what they can do because they are being developed continuously. But let's just all set to what is in the current.
I agree, people are over-exaggerating the power of AI when its power depends entirely on us humans. If we don't provide it with data, it will just be a pile of useless scrap metal, so there will be no way AI or robots can replace humans in all fields or even control the human world.

AI is created to help and bring convenience to humans, it is not created to replace or destroy humanity, so we should stop making exaggerated assumptions about AI.

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AI is created to help and bring convenience to humans, it is not created to replace or destroy humanity, so we should stop making exaggerated assumptions about AI.

Well, there is a theory that AI one day will launch missiles, as they are controlled by programs. But this theory is a complete fiction, movie or book plot. Not a single reasonable human will ever believe in that. As well as I wont believe that one day we will have manufactures that will provide so many robots (not exactly they must be managed by AI), that they will replace humans, and the only tasks humans would do are clicking button and creating new tasks for them. There are robotic helpers, but they work they can do is greatly limited. They wont be able to do something, where creativity is required

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I agree, people are over-exaggerating the power of AI when its power depends entirely on us humans. If we don't provide it with data, it will just be a pile of useless scrap metal, so there will be no way AI or robots can replace humans in all fields or even control the human world.

AI is created to help and bring convenience to humans, it is not created to replace or destroy humanity, so we should stop making exaggerated assumptions about AI.

If people directly involved in developing AI tell you it's a potential huge threat, than maybe you should take it seriously.
What makes an AI an AI is the ability to learn and expand on it's own, and it could do it exponentially. AI is not just a database that filters out results according to a prompt. And no, it's not always created with the best intentions in mind, it could very well also be used to gain geopolitical advantage of one country over others.
From materialistic point of view, there's nothing special about humans. We are just a biological robots that could be replaced by something better, more efficient and designed for a special purpose.

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November 09, 2023, 06:07:06 PM
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These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
It is true as Elon musk has said it artificial intelligence will put an end to work but not in the entirety of it. AI will not take over the jobs of astronauts working at space x neither will AI take over the jobs of the engineers whose work is to ensure that the machines are functioning at its optimal to assemble battery parts at Tesla. I also will not take over the jobs of people working at X, the social media company. What a I will do instead is that we would see better results output we would see efficiency we will see organizations meeting their key performance indicators as a result of these super human computers without have been utilised in their places of work.
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It is true as Elon musk has said it artificial intelligence will put an end to work but not in the entirety of it. AI will not take over the jobs of astronauts working at space x neither will AI take over the jobs of the engineers whose work is to ensure that the machines are functioning at its optimal to assemble battery parts at Tesla. I also will not take over the jobs of people working at X, the social media company. What a I will do instead is that we would see better results output we would see efficiency we will see organizations meeting their key performance indicators as a result of these super human computers without have been utilised in their places of work.

Can you actually produce any logical argument on why all the jobs you mentioned can't be automated? What is it that humans can do that is impossible to be made by AI/robots?
So far this thread is full of wishful thinking and empty phrases with no real substance.

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Yeah, as I have said that there's no doubt with that that some of the jobs will be easier because of AIs and more productive.
But it seems that there are people that have been over exaggerating what AIs can do as of now. I know that in some years in the near future, there can be more of what they can do because they are being developed continuously. But let's just all set to what is in the current.
I agree, people are over-exaggerating the power of AI when its power depends entirely on us humans. If we don't provide it with data, it will just be a pile of useless scrap metal, so there will be no way AI or robots can replace humans in all fields or even control the human world.

AI is created to help and bring convenience to humans, it is not created to replace or destroy humanity, so we should stop making exaggerated assumptions about AI.
That's right, there's a basis to what it produces and it all depends to the gathered data that it gets from its developer and through the web.
When they don't have those things then that means that they're equipped with zero knowledge and will learn on its own.
It might learn as fast as it can be but it won't learn everything that it knows without a source.


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November 09, 2023, 09:49:48 PM
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AI is created to help and bring convenience to humans, it is not created to replace or destroy humanity, so we should stop making exaggerated assumptions about AI.

Well, there is a theory that AI one day will launch missiles, as they are controlled by programs. But this theory is a complete fiction, movie or book plot. Not a single reasonable human will ever believe in that. As well as I wont believe that one day we will have manufactures that will provide so many robots (not exactly they must be managed by AI), that they will replace humans, and the only tasks humans would do are clicking button and creating new tasks for them. There are robotic helpers, but they work they can do is greatly limited. They wont be able to do something, where creativity is required
In the end, human skills and knowledge are still different from these AI. Maybe some type of work can be replaced with these robots but having said it replacing all, that seems impossible in the sense that their actions are limited. Yes, I really admire how this AI has been created to fill some important roles, especially in big companies but still, it is not enough to say that it takes everything otherwise, many people will become jobless which badly affects the economic growth of the country.
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AI is created to help and bring convenience to humans, it is not created to replace or destroy humanity, so we should stop making exaggerated assumptions about AI.

Well, there is a theory that AI one day will launch missiles, as they are controlled by programs. But this theory is a complete fiction, movie or book plot. Not a single reasonable human will ever believe in that. As well as I wont believe that one day we will have manufactures that will provide so many robots (not exactly they must be managed by AI), that they will replace humans, and the only tasks humans would do are clicking button and creating new tasks for them. There are robotic helpers, but they work they can do is greatly limited. They wont be able to do something, where creativity is required
In the end, human skills and knowledge are still different from these AI. Maybe some type of work can be replaced with these robots but having said it replacing all, that seems impossible in the sense that their actions are limited. Yes, I really admire how this AI has been created to fill some important roles, especially in big companies but still, it is not enough to say that it takes everything otherwise, many people will become jobless which badly affects the economic growth of the country.
Humans are superior
Humans are literally creator of AI
Humans does have sense
Humans does have capability on assessing things
Humans does have that adjustment and versatility
etc...

We arent that blind on not to see these advantage compared to AI.
The truth about AI advancement is that it is really that something beneficial for humankind but there would really be still certain limitations.
Yes, it could be able to cover up some jobs and others which can be done automatically and efficiently but still there are jobs or works on which human beings
are the only ones who could really be able to do so.

It is really just that people are over exaggerating on what AI could do and some do even have that kind of worry about taking over the human race. Lol!
Lets just cherish out this kind of advancement and wont really be thinking about negative things which arent really that suppsosed to happen in the first place.
Better stop to see those common sci-fi movies so that you wont really be that a fan on connecting things around.

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November 09, 2023, 11:03:45 PM
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I wouldn't say ppl are exaggerating when there's a concern about how AI's going to make impressions in our lives. If we don't provide robots any data it won't be AI. If we program machines with AI to allow them to become sentient we don't know where it's going to take humanity.

I agree, people are over-exaggerating the power of AI when its power depends entirely on us humans. If we don't provide it with data, it will just be a pile of useless scrap metal, so there will be no way AI or robots can replace humans in all fields or even control the human world.

AI is created to help and bring convenience to humans, it is not created to replace or destroy humanity, so we should stop making exaggerated assumptions about AI.

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Anyone into AI should be reading all of Arthur C Clarke books, he explored this all years ago.   Im not sure Elon will have done so but its relevant for exploring all the logical constructs that a robot might be need when it has the power in multiple avenues to maybe threaten humans.    
    I think they are finding with AI being slightly considerate of the person is relevant, you cannot just dismiss someone's presence and declare them last or least valuable employee or worker in a situation.   Also giving out instructions for explosives and all kinds of possible solutions a robot or AI might not recognize is restricted not freely spoken information, this interface with humans has been considered going back many decades in sci-fi I think its becoming finally relevant now.


In the vast majority AI should be an obvious positive to society, a few times a persons job might become eclipsed in some way but my main take is none of this is new as a transformation its a continuation of the industrial revolution imo.

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November 10, 2023, 01:19:17 AM
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I wouldn't say ppl are exaggerating when there's a concern about how AI's going to make impressions in our lives. If we don't provide robots any data it won't be AI. If we program machines with AI to allow them to become sentient we don't know where it's going to take humanity.

I agree, people are over-exaggerating the power of AI when its power depends entirely on us humans. If we don't provide it with data, it will just be a pile of useless scrap metal, so there will be no way AI or robots can replace humans in all fields or even control the human world.

AI is created to help and bring convenience to humans, it is not created to replace or destroy humanity, so we should stop making exaggerated assumptions about AI.

Yeah, it's not an exaggeration, and it seems that AI will be the newest technology, the future for mankind. And with that, Elon being a visionary, obviously has a lot of things in his mind with regards to his AI technology.

And he could be right now, there could be jobs that might replace by AI. But I doubt though that people will be somewhat of no use to the society. We will still be the dominant species despite the coming of AI. And we should look at how this technology can bring to us and make everything better.

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I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that AI will end all work, at least for now. Maybe after few decades, but yeah not anytime soon. Sure, AI's advanncing fast, but there's a ton of stuff that AI cannot replicate. We all know AI lacks natural empathy and intuition. Also AI's aren't as creative as we think they are right now. We're still gonna need people for loads of jobs, especially those requires "humans". And think about it, how much we have moved forward and the big leaps like different revolution in the fields of industry – yet it didn't "put an end to work"; it just changed how people work and in fact it created even more jobs/work. The same could happen when AI takes over, freeing us up from tasks that are repetitive, boring and risky while letting us focus on something more.

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November 10, 2023, 05:13:01 AM
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I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.
He can say whatever he wants and he can also develop any potential because he has sufficient work tools. Elon Musk is a human figure who never stops innovating and he is an accomplished businessman who will do anything for the business he runs. Our fear in the future is that the level of competition between humans and robots will increase because it is not impossible that robots will replace the work done by humans.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
Get ready for new breakthroughs in the era of computerization and if we don't prepare ourselves well then robots will replace human jobs. Humans are starting to feel the sophistication of technology now because there are several robots that are starting to be developed to work like humans. The level of seriousness that Elon Musk is talking about will be proven when this program runs in the future and if we are still alive we will probably say something in our hearts, that what Elon Musk said at that time has happened.

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November 10, 2023, 08:28:30 AM
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I wouldn't say ppl are exaggerating when there's a concern about how AI's going to make impressions in our lives. If we don't provide robots any data it won't be AI. If we program machines with AI to allow them to become sentient we don't know where it's going to take humanity.

I agree, people are over-exaggerating the power of AI when its power depends entirely on us humans. If we don't provide it with data, it will just be a pile of useless scrap metal, so there will be no way AI or robots can replace humans in all fields or even control the human world.

AI is created to help and bring convenience to humans, it is not created to replace or destroy humanity, so we should stop making exaggerated assumptions about AI.

It sounds easy but do you think creating a robot and giving it sentience is as easy as you think? It's not as simple and easy as Tony Star creating Ultron, man. We are living in a real world, not the Marvell superhero world, we need reality, not such excessive illusion. Surely some scientists are pursuing this idea because they also have ambitions, but reality and movies are completely different. We humans have a lot of ideas but to turn all of them into reality, do you think it will take us thousands of years more?

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