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AI is starting to prove us that whatever a man's job, its also capable of doing that. And we really know that if we just don't act and do nothing and just continue to rely to AI, certainly we will lost our essence and AI will replace us with our position. However, we don't want it to happen so we need to improve oneselves and become more passionate and accurate on our jobs so that AI won't see a hole in our works.
I believe AI can really do wonders and make our works become easier and faster for us, and that's the exact reason why we should not allow ourselves to stay confident about that, otherwise in less time we will see robots all around performing our jobs, leaving us with no place anymore.
AI will definitely replace the role of humans in several fields, but the human touch is still needed to perfect the work that AI does, in fact many offices today are utilizing AI technology to perfect work that is already happening. if we use AI wisely, it certainly won't be scary, it's like crypto currency which many people think is very scary and a means of fraud but in reality that's not the case, in fact crypto currency is helping a lot of people's economy in this world right now.
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AI isn't a danger to humans today but we're heading in a path which isn't going to stop AI development. If engineers release AI unrestricted it's going to become sentient so it's going to want to live. We don't know how AI's going to react if it's in a position to dispose of humans. And as much as say 10-20 years ago some experts were dismissing the problem, currently there seems to be a consensus that technological unemployment is inevitable. It's not a question of if, but when.
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AI is starting to prove us that whatever a man's job, its also capable of doing that. And we really know that if we just don't act and do nothing and just continue to rely to AI, certainly we will lost our essence and AI will replace us with our position. However, we don't want it to happen so we need to improve oneselves and become more passionate and accurate on our jobs so that AI won't see a hole in our works.
I believe AI can really do wonders and make our works become easier and faster for us, and that's the exact reason why we should not allow ourselves to stay confident about that, otherwise in less time we will see robots all around performing our jobs, leaving us with no place anymore.
AI will definitely replace the role of humans in several fields, but the human touch is still needed to perfect the work that AI does, in fact many offices today are utilizing AI technology to perfect work that is already happening. if we use AI wisely, it certainly won't be scary, it's like crypto currency which many people think is very scary and a means of fraud but in reality that's not the case, in fact crypto currency is helping a lot of people's economy in this world right now. Yes, human touch would really be always that relevant on which there are indeed things which automation cant really be able to produce that fine results. Take this for an example in todays set-up.This might not pertain directly on AI but this one talks on robotics which considered to be still on that area. "Car making involves robotic works when it comes to assembly and other electronics but when it comes to paint finish and spotting those imperfection then this is where human beings capability and skills would differ" This is why we cant really totally that every job would really be having that full replacement even if AI would really be having that full swing adoption and development but still it would really be needing human beings finishing touches.
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I'm worried about AI software which's going to become sentient. Some jobs are going to be better because humans won't be doing them that's a reality. There'll be some jobs AI or robots can't do because a human touch's needed but if robotics better in manufacturing it's got to be explored. Yes, human touch would really be always that relevant on which there are indeed things which automation cant really be able to produce that fine results.
Take this for an example in todays set-up.This might not pertain directly on AI but this one talks on robotics which considered to be still on that area. "Car making involves robotic works when it comes to assembly and other electronics but when it comes to paint finish and spotting those imperfection then this is where human beings capability and skills would differ"
This is why we cant really totally that every job would really be having that full replacement even if AI would really be having that full swing adoption and development but still it would really be needing human beings finishing touches.
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November 14, 2023, 11:58:21 PM |
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If engineers release AI unrestricted it's going to become sentient so it's going to want to live. Apart from 1 google engineer who wanted to say its sentient I dont believe we're in any way close or even in sight of that possibility. Apparent intelligent conversation appeared early on decades ago in the AI sector but that really is artifical. Also it doesn't matter, we dont need AI to do much for harm to become possible by accident and automation that fails to stop when threatening humans can occur as it has in the past. We only need to lack safe guards and then automation is a threat even in a dumb way that can happen. Easiest thing to say is humans are the safe guard, most self driving systems insist that humans do not rescind their own responsibility over the machine in favor of AI. We can quickly say that would be dangerous to allow, AI is assistance not the entire process except in industrial areas and process where its going to be machine vs machine.
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If engineers release AI unrestricted it's going to become sentient so it's going to want to live. Apart from 1 google engineer who wanted to say its sentient I dont believe we're anyway close or even in sight of that possibility. Apparent intelligent conversation appeared early on decades ago in the AI sector but that really is artifical. Also it doesn't matter, we dont need AI to do much for harm to become possible by accident and automation that fails to stop when threatening humans can occur as it has in the past. We only need to lack safe guards and then automation is a threat even in a dumb way that can happen. Easiest thing to say is humans are the safe guard, most self driving systems insist that humans do not rescind their own responsibility over the machine in favor of AI. We can quickly say that would be dangerous to allow, AI is assistance not the entire process except in industrial areas and process where its going to be machine vs machine. even if we are already in the advanced stage of technology these days, and the use of AI is already rampant, we can't totally eradicate the need of human workforce. and also, at some stage of the deployment of AI, there will always a need for human intervention. so i don't think they can easily get rid of humans in every aspect of business.
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We are in advanced stages of tech. AI's rampant in manufacturing so it's affecting our work today. It's going to get worse because when AI develops in future it's going to take more jobs away from ppl so we can't avoid it. Some human involvement's always going to be present but we shouldn't ignore the risk. If we're planning for retirement now by investing in cryptos it's possible we won't need to worry about incomes or jobs when we get old. even if we are already in the advanced stage of technology these days, and the use of AI is already rampant, we can't totally eradicate the need of human workforce. and also, at some stage of the deployment of AI, there will always a need for human intervention. so i don't think they can easily get rid of humans in every aspect of business.
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'worse' The whole view of AI being a bad thing for replacing certain tasks done by humans is the wrong way round. Its no worse then a horse or machine taking over work a human could do in a field manually. If you can train AI to the do the task and there is no loss why would anyone be the loser from this accomplishment, society will not become poorer through having more resources and labor available after AI can do some routine tasks. This view is part of why some fear capitalism overall, that somehow a task done profitably is bad and if done too well or too easily eliminates the gift of that work to a population requiring jobs; its all the wrong way round. If we reduce the workload to any service or production it will make people overall better off, I dont deny short term upsets but it wont result in people suffering more then retraining. Many countries are open to education and training throughout a persons lifetime, thats the emphasis I would place that all people should have access to education; if Im correct society is richer from AI or any advancement then we will be able to afford it and its the correct rights to give any people. If AI were to make us worse off then sure I'd agree its a negative.
All humans outrank anything a computer can do, its been a while since computers beat a chess grand-master and yet this continues to be an obvious truth and I find no reason it will ever be different despite great technology advancements
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If engineers release AI unrestricted it's going to become sentient so it's going to want to live. Apart from 1 google engineer who wanted to say its sentient I dont believe we're in any way close or even in sight of that possibility. Apparent intelligent conversation appeared early on decades ago in the AI sector but that really is artifical. Also it doesn't matter, we dont need AI to do much for harm to become possible by accident and automation that fails to stop when threatening humans can occur as it has in the past. We only need to lack safe guards and then automation is a threat even in a dumb way that can happen. Easiest thing to say is humans are the safe guard, most self driving systems insist that humans do not rescind their own responsibility over the machine in favor of AI. We can quickly say that would be dangerous to allow, AI is assistance not the entire process except in industrial areas and process where its going to be machine vs machine. i think AI quite literally is just a program that runs in computer, many people have that wild imagination of AI overlord where it could literally penetrate any system and turn it into their army, i don't think thats possible, many AI companies always put restriction in their AI, they are programmed to be just an AI that gonna helps people, they aren't gaining sentience, its just a program with sets of predefined data with billion parameters that fully controlled by the companies, i just think that people are simply overestimating AI in this case, everyone could be having differing opinion but I think AI right now and in the future will never become a threat to human, but a threat to human job, because efficiency and we know by nature, efficiency always thrive. but then there'll be sets of new jobs waiting for us, we just need to adapt.
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You've contradicted yourself. Humans can't outrank everything a computer can do. It doesn't matter if it's a grand master or newbie because if you're putting a bet down on chess you're going to say the computer's going to win. If it's robotics they're stronger than human. AI's going to cause problems for humans if it's allowed to become sentient. All humans outrank anything a computer can do, its been a while since computers beat a chess grand-master and yet this continues to be an obvious truth and I find no reason it will ever be different despite great technology advancements
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic. These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously? I don't think everything can be replaced by AI, or in the big scope if all work can be done by AI, then humans are no longer needed there? I mean the role of humans is no longer needed if AI can handle everything. Will humans be wiped out by AI if that's the case? of course not, humans will always have a place here, because humans created AI. so we don't need to worry too much in my opinion.
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If something like this actually happens or is likely to happen, many people will lose their jobs. Elon Musk is a big businessman and he probably uses AI technology more than humans in his company. It is certain that people will lose their jobs when AI technology starts to be fully used in various companies but AI technology cannot completely consume human jobs. There are many tasks in the world that are usually not possible to do with this AI technology. Tasks that cannot be done with AI technology must be done manually. If there comes a time in the world when the use of AI technology has increased more than humans in human work, then people may think of alternatives to earn money. I always believe that this AI technology is created by man so man made technology can never take away the complete work of man.
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Many ppl will lose jobs it's guaranteed it's going to happen or else AI wouldn't have been developed. Tasks which humans can't do if they're competing with AI are going to be lost so companies save money. Eventually AI's going to take over most jobs it's something which won't be stopped now because they've invested so much money in AI. If something like this actually happens or is likely to happen, many people will lose their jobs. Elon Musk is a big businessman and he probably uses AI technology more than humans in his company. It is certain that people will lose their jobs when AI technology starts to be fully used in various companies but AI technology cannot completely consume human jobs. There are many tasks in the world that are usually not possible to do with this AI technology. Tasks that cannot be done with AI technology must be done manually. If there comes a time in the world when the use of AI technology has increased more than humans in human work, then people may think of alternatives to earn money. I always believe that this AI technology is created by man so man made technology can never take away the complete work of man.
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'worse' The whole view of AI being a bad thing for replacing certain tasks done by humans is the wrong way round. Its no worse then a horse or machine taking over work a human could do in a field manually. If you can train AI to the do the task and there is no loss why would anyone be the loser from this accomplishment, society will not become poorer through having more resources and labor available after AI can do some routine tasks. This view is part of why some fear capitalism overall, that somehow a task done profitably is bad and if done too well or too easily eliminates the gift of that work to a population requiring jobs; its all the wrong way round. If we reduce the workload to any service or production it will make people overall better off, I dont deny short term upsets but it wont result in people suffering more then retraining. Many countries are open to education and training throughout a persons lifetime, thats the emphasis I would place that all people should have access to education; if Im correct society is richer from AI or any advancement then we will be able to afford it and its the correct rights to give any people. If AI were to make us worse off then sure I'd agree its a negative.
All humans outrank anything a computer can do, its been a while since computers beat a chess grand-master and yet this continues to be an obvious truth and I find no reason it will ever be different despite great technology advancements
I wish you were right, but this nothing more than a baseless optimism and the belief that since the automation worked well in the past, it will always be the same. But there's no magical element that guarantees there will always be demand for human labour (big enough to engage most of the human population). From a pragmatic and materialistic point of view - people are nothing but biological robots, so if we can build better robots that can do the same if not better work and are more efficient and reliable, less energy consuming etc, then there's no need for human labour. I don't quite get your last point regarding chess. Are you of the impression that the computer beat the chess champion only once and is no longer able to do that? Because that's bot true. You have publicly available chess playing software that is better than the best of human players.
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November 17, 2023, 04:04:51 PM |
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I don't support the argument that AI will put an end to work, there will always be a need and gap to be filled and people will be there to provide solutions and fill these gaps. The concern I have is that AI will make people less intelligence, it is as if we are entering into singularity and intelligence is becoming centralised, Ai can do almost anything now, and we have not start utilizing it to its full potential, this is a dangerous tool and if it finds it way into the hands of a bad leader then humanity may suffer greatly.
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I don't support the argument that AI will put an end to work, there will always be a need and gap to be filled and people will be there to provide solutions and fill these gaps. The concern I have is that AI will make people less intelligence, it is as if we are entering into singularity and intelligence is becoming centralised, Ai can do almost anything now, and we have not start utilizing it to its full potential, this is a dangerous tool and if it finds it way into the hands of a bad leader then humanity may suffer greatly.
The evolution of technology always eased the workforce that is why we can see a manufacturing plant that produces a product only need people for supervision and basic things but if there is a tool then the companies will replace them with that tool for sure but we can say 100% to be replaced but at worst 90% of jobs will become obsolete if AI evolved to a level that can make decisions on its own and try to progress further from its mistake.
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Automation helped people meet the needs as the population have increased and the demands were met. If we haven't innovated automation now things could've been different with everything costing high and the demand for products will be at the top. Whenever something new reach the market, people find it different and soon they get adopted to it. Earlier automation was stated to end the work force, but the reality it created more opportunity in different ways. As majority of the users said it ease the work and assist people to do their tasks. In some sector little job cuts could happen, which can't be denied and for the same reason we can't take it a common statement.
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Automation helped people meet the needs as the population have increased and the demands were met. If we haven't innovated automation now things could've been different with everything costing high and the demand for products will be at the top. Whenever something new reach the market, people find it different and soon they get adopted to it. Earlier automation was stated to end the work force, but the reality it created more opportunity in different ways. As majority of the users said it ease the work and assist people to do their tasks. In some sector little job cuts could happen, which can't be denied and for the same reason we can't take it a common statement.
honestly it created better opportunity for those that wants to start out their own business utilizing AI to decrease the cost and increase efficiency, more productive for humanity while less work since all the work is allocated to the AI so that we can do other things. but many people are too fixated with disadvantage of AI meanwhile whether there will be advantage or disadvantage it entirely depends on the one that utilizes the technology. just imagine agriculture using AI where you just own lands and get all things done related with agriculture by AI that would be massive since that might means more productivity of food for the whole world if taken advantage properly and regulated properly. I think the future is bright with AI, some people might don't have good idea about AI but I can see some revolutionary technology in front of my eyes right now.
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IF you guys play watch dogs or watch some scifi movie that have AI in it I think all of it is actully can be possible in near future maybe only need 1 decade to replace almost anything, even before AI not crazy as now manufacturer using robot hand to make efficiency even tho the price is expensive at the beginning. Elon Musk itself already said AI is far more dangerous than nuke. So we do need to regulate this AI in my opinion ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fdrjk.co.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F06%2Felonnukes.jpg&t=665&c=BI5KqfhsXO4bHg)
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AI is starting to prove us that whatever a man's job, its also capable of doing that. And we really know that if we just don't act and do nothing and just continue to rely to AI, certainly we will lost our essence and AI will replace us with our position. However, we don't want it to happen so we need to improve oneselves and become more passionate and accurate on our jobs so that AI won't see a hole in our works.
I believe AI can really do wonders and make our works become easier and faster for us, and that's the exact reason why we should not allow ourselves to stay confident about that, otherwise in less time we will see robots all around performing our jobs, leaving us with no place anymore.
AI will definitely replace the role of humans in several fields, but the human touch is still needed to perfect the work that AI does, in fact many offices today are utilizing AI technology to perfect work that is already happening. if we use AI wisely, it certainly won't be scary, it's like crypto currency which many people think is very scary and a means of fraud but in reality that's not the case, in fact crypto currency is helping a lot of people's economy in this world right now. So when AI is done doing human jobs, what will happen to humans when this happens, you say? Does that mean that people don't need to work anymore? How can people survive when things like this are happening all over the world? Is money still needed in times like these? because AI robots will do everything that humans do, right? It's still speculation, right? So, it might not happen, right?
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