Conclusion after losing millions! that games are rigged.

[Westinhome]

Betting more would give you the assurance of winning? Not winning means the machine or platform itself is rigged? I hope all of us are aware of what algorithm is and how it works. You are not the only player; sometimes you lose and sometimes other players are winning. But this is not to close the doors for the possibility that it is not rigged; there should be other instances as well or experiences by more players not only OP alone.

The most common words for the person who loss the money in gambling was you are blaming the site for the loss.Did you blame the same gambling site for the biggest win in the game.So the gambler should act like the matured person,he should take responsibility for the win and loss.The gambling game based on the algorithm,So we can’t say the particular person will win daily because he had made the big win on one day.The Algorithm itself change daily in every day,So if you feel loss in the particular games on the certain day.It’s better to quit the gambling games on that particular day.So you may be saved on that particular day loss,the next day may give you million dollars we can predicted it.

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[stomachgrowls]

I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.

The game are rigged because you have not won. Gambling has always been to the favor of the Casino more and the betting platform, not the gambler who is playing, so whenever you gamble, there is big chance you loose than the chance that you win. Gamble for fun or do not gamble at all since you cannot handle loosing money to gambling. Any money you spend gambling, take it that you have spent that money to have fun so that you do not feel remorseful and bitter after loosing.

We do always have that reasoning mechanism on which it is really just that very common or do really happen to anyone on which there would really be those moments that you would really be that thinking that it wasnt really that fair at all but to think that house do always have the advantage or the edge then it would really be normal that we would really be experiencing such losses on which it would really be just that normal on having this kind of situations. If there would be winners then there would be tons of losers in the other side and come to think that gambling is indeed a business on which it would really be just that normal
that they would really be making out money and of course they cant really just afford on having no advantage to their players. This is how they do make revenue.

[goaldigger]

You can't say it's rigged based on that alone though.  With any games there are variabilities.  Same on the winning side I've seen people go on crazy runs playing terrible odds and beating the odds.  I will be honest I haven't delved too far into some of these "it's rigged" to make a complete determination but anyone who loses always feels like it's rigged against them.

If you lose that much doesn’t mean that the game is rigged and the casinos are cheating, remember that the house will always have the advantage and losing is already part of gambling. If you want to earn real money then gambling should not be the option because profit here is not guaranteed. Those streamer probably are just trying to hype a casinos but if you are going to follow them and expect the same result, then that is wrong.

[freedomgo]

What can you expect to hear from a guy who's lost millions in gambling? Even if the system is proven to be fair, a statement from a gambler who's lost a significant amount of money could be biased because it's driven by frustration.

Consider this simple logic: If a gambling site were rigged, why would a gambler risk millions on it, along with other gamblers? His statement should not be taken too seriously; he might just be venting his emotions and could return to gambling once he's in a calmer state of mind.

[o48o]

hey guys,
I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.

Here's a example what happens with me:
When I bet big suddenly on crash game on stake it every time stops and seems like the computer is thinking about results after waiting for sometimes i bust at 1x to 1.10x, I would had believed that it is random when this incident happens with me once or twice but it happened with me more than 10 times, I betted my all funds but every time on crash it waits and think to how to bust me on short time.

other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

Why are these people always thinking it's rigged when they lose? It's like they are thinking that they deserve to win. I guess probabilities are hard pill to swallow because people don't seem to understand why they win or lose. Instead accepting that you are losing in crash, which is mathematically likely, you think that you can spot how computer is thinking how it bust your bets. Are you aware that sounds crazy?

Online casinos get constantly audited by different parties, And all it would take is a one time bust that they would get caught and their reputation would end. Why in the name of everything holy they would want to risk that. And to top of that to leave you visual clues where you can spot the rigged machine?

[livingfree]

If casinos allows everyone to win, we'd all be rich.

That guy has to understand the system should be in favor of the casino. They're not a freaking charity to give that high percentage of win rate to the gamblers.

We all know this in the first place when we gamble. But I think there's an ego part on it when you've been doing it with large amounts. That's why it is always being said to "gamble only with what you can afford to lose".

[uneng]

Here's a example what happens with me:
When I bet big suddenly on crash game on stake it every time stops and seems like the computer is thinking about results after waiting for sometimes i bust at 1x to 1.10x, I would had believed that it is random when this incident happens with me once or twice but it happened with me more than 10 times, I betted my all funds but every time on crash it waits and think to how to bust me on short time.

other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

It does happen with every gamblers who play a game for too long. Sooner or later results will start happening like that. It's part of the randomness of gambling games, therefore you shouldn't rely on big bets supposing it's going to be a safe strategy to play, because in fact, they can be your ruin. I say that, because it has already happened to me before when I was playing multiplier game with 1,01 odds, but more than 90% winning chance, still I lost more than 3 times in a row. Anyway, I can't say the game is rigged due to that happening.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

Well, if bets are verifiable, we really can't say games are rigged... It seems you don't want to hear the answer you have to hear. Change your strategy, don't put big funds in risk and forget about safe betting methods. It just doesn't exist. You can play mines with lowest risk available, but the risk is still there all the time.

[Ultegra134]

What can you expect to hear from a guy who's lost millions in gambling? Even if the system is proven to be fair, a statement from a gambler who's lost a significant amount of money could be biased because it's driven by frustration.

Consider this simple logic: If a gambling site were rigged, why would a gambler risk millions on it, along with other gamblers? His statement should not be taken too seriously; he might just be venting his emotions and could return to gambling once he's in a calmer state of mind.

I didn't watch the full video because I don't believe there's any reason to. But yes, I agree with you. His video doesn't actually prove anything in particular; it's his own theory that has no valid data to back up his statements. I don't believe that gambling games are rigged, but they're a business after all; they're counting on your losses to survive. Betting millions of dollars in the first place is something malignant to do. Who does that and expects a positive outcome from something so reckless? What kind of point would he be trying to prove? Because he certainly didn't waste millions in an attempt to demonstrate that the casino is rigged, there's no valid proof to support such a claim.

He's most likely another frustrated gambler who needs some help managing his money and his lack of self-control over gambling.

[PX-Z]

As long the probably fair works and has the same result in any verifier talking about being rigged is not possible unless you have proofs, or your seed doesn't change which can be seen in every rolls. About the type of game, its possible but rarely happens, especially for a huge casino like stake. All losers will probably doubt in such way, i even think about it when i consecutively loss in 8-10 rolls, then win after it lmao.

[Hispo]

If casinos allows everyone to win, we'd all be rich.

That guy has to understand the system should be in favor of the casino. They're not a freaking charity to give that high percentage of win rate to the gamblers.

We all know this in the first place when we gamble. But I think there's an ego part on it when you've been doing it with large amounts. That's why it is always being said to "gamble only with what you can afford to lose".

Right, If I was given a dollar each time some unfortunate gambler said the game was rigged against them, then I would probably retire by next year, in my opinion.
Also, if anyone is willing to wager literal millions, then we should be talking about a person who does not even need that money and has their life pretty much secured, spending their endless days gambling or doing whatever they please.
The last place I would expect someone of that profile would be here complaining bout their bad luck, OP probably does not even know how provable Fairness works or how to corroborate the results he is getting while gambling on games which use such mechanism.

This thread does not have a clear purpose unless very damaging evidence is presented which would translate into an actual investigation by the community of gamblers. Very unlikely, but we are supposed to be open to that slim possibility.

[Chikito]

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

You have to check it multiple times before making the conclusion. Gambling is online, that possible on that time you have a bad connection internet and lag. or that possible RAM on your computer is slow to read memory. So, everything possible could be happen outside your conclusion above. You didn't mention the website either, maybe you play on a small casino which newly opened, we don't know the exact problem. but, I am sure if you play at the biggest casino, the problem may be on your side.

[Darker45]

Well, results of provably fair games are verifiable by anybody. So there's that. But I'm curious, is it possible that crypto casinos utilize open-source software in whatever they implement?

Anyway, in general, don't be too surprised when you gamble and lose. That should be the general outcome, anyway. There's the house edge. You cannot turn it the other way around. That would mean death to the casino industry.

I'm not sure if this is partly psychological. I have experienced this in gambling both online and offline. So, it's possible that it's our brains that are tricking us. The reality could simply be that we lose or we're unlucky or it's coincidence.

[Wexnident]

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I think this is something similar to survivor bias? If you don't know what it means it's like making armor for people who survive a war, thinking that the damages in their armor were the parts where it should be more protected due to damages but in fact, it only showed that because dead people don't bring their armor back. Same thing here imo, kind of, you don't exactly identify every wins/losses that affect the big picture, you just identify ones that are relevant to you. It's biased. If this was house edge then yea, we've always been cheated by casinos but that goes for every business to be fair. But in scenarios like this? Unless a comprehensive research is done, I can only cause this a biased view.

[danherbias07]

They are always rigged.
I understand your feeling about the Crash game because I played it too for a long time. I also tried analyzing the game and whenever there are heavy gamblers joining in I also saw that the game crashes below x1.30. It will happen for like 5 to 6 rounds until that heavy gambler surrenders or he will cut his bet to half or maybe less. When that happens, that's when you will see a change in multipliers. It could go x5 - x500 depending on how many heavy bettors cashed out early.
I had a chance before to get x200 and x500 in Crash although I didn't really see it because I left my PC on with an automated bet for just a small wager.
If you are saying they are rigged then believe it, they are rigged so it's on you with how you will be wise at playing against them.
Heavy bettors don't really go beyond x1.50 just a little win is okay for them.

[Blitzboy]

Its a known fact that there are times when people in the gaming business try to trick people. When you add the streamer's comments to your own, they do bring up an important question: Is there something behind the scenes that is working against the player? Even though rigging is a very serious charge, the fact that you keep losing, especially in crash games and slots, points to a chance that needs to be looked into.

The phrase "provably fair" is used a lot in a business world driven by computers and profit margins. Accountability and openness are very important. When players say something is fair, they should expect proof that can be checked. Data research, public pressure, and regulatory scrutiny are the only real ways to find out if someone is rigging. Join communities, talk about these trends, and work together to make platforms more accountable.

[livingfree]

If casinos allows everyone to win, we'd all be rich.

That guy has to understand the system should be in favor of the casino. They're not a freaking charity to give that high percentage of win rate to the gamblers.

We all know this in the first place when we gamble. But I think there's an ego part on it when you've been doing it with large amounts. That's why it is always being said to "gamble only with what you can afford to lose".

Right, If I was given a dollar each time some unfortunate gambler said the game was rigged against them, then I would probably retire by next year, in my opinion.
Also, if anyone is willing to wager literal millions, then we should be talking about a person who does not even need that money and has their life pretty much secured, spending their endless days gambling or doing whatever they please.
The last place I would expect someone of that profile would be here complaining bout their bad luck, OP probably does not even know how provable Fairness works or how to corroborate the results he is getting while gambling on games which use such mechanism.

This thread does not have a clear purpose unless very damaging evidence is presented which would translate into an actual investigation by the community of gamblers. Very unlikely, but we are supposed to be open to that slim possibility.

Yeah, for someone who gambles a lot and with that money. We don't care whether he can afford that or not but for him, he can spend that no matter what will be the outcome of his gambling.

We always have these people complain of how unlucky they are and how much they've lost. If they don't gamble in the first place, they wouldn't have any problems at all.

All they need to do is to stop gambling and let their money spend somewhere else so that they're not going to lose it through gambling.

[piebeyb]

I think we all know that and it's not even a figment, after all other people often experience losses like that but they don't say it's cheating, understand that it's part of the risk of gambling so that when you feel like you're losing don't think of it as part of cheating. by casinos, it is a risky game where in every game there are winners and there are also losers.

Even though we know that the casino still always wins against all its users, I think you understand what I mean, everything is set up to win the casino more than it wins the user, if the users win more then the casino will go bankrupt, have you ever seen a casino go bankrupt, I don't think so Unless the casino is empty of users, you need to learn more about it because I can only give you a clue to understand how the casino system works even though it uses a "probably fair" system. 

[ethereumhunter]

Even if our computer is cheated, we will never know. Even if we try to find out, it will also take time before we really know that the casino is cheating us. And when we know that the casino is cheating us, we better immediately move to another casino that can be fair. I never verify bets on casino sites because I don't think about cheating, even though I know it can happen. And to prevent cheating, we should choose a trusted and popular casino, even though that is not guaranteed. You said that we have to be responsible, so that means we have to be responsible in choosing the casino and not just follow other people's advice.

[angrybirdy]

Even if our computer is cheated, we will never know. Even if we try to find out, it will also take time before we really know that the casino is cheating us. And when we know that the casino is cheating us, we better immediately move to another casino that can be fair. I never verify bets on casino sites because I don't think about cheating, even though I know it can happen. And to prevent cheating, we should choose a trusted and popular casino, even though that is not guaranteed. You said that we have to be responsible, so that means we have to be responsible in choosing the casino and not just follow other people's advice.

We can't deny the fact that there's a possibility of online cheating issue since online casinos is operated by the developers, and there's always a risk that it may not operated fairly. An individual must ensure that the casino site that they are playing is trustworthy and legitimate. Do some research and make sure that the site has a good reputation, Also many individuals doesn't want to read Terms and Conditions which is important especially if there's a monetary involved, T&C plays a huge part because it states the rules of the games, restrictions and some requirements needed prior playing.

[Synchronice]

I can't really swear for Stake or any casino, I don't know their code but I can say that Casinos don't need to be rigged because they can legally set house edge or RTP on their games. Fixed house edge means fixed advantage for casino and fixed RTP (Return To Player) means that doesn't matter how much you bet, finally casino will be left with profit and only some percent of it will be returned to their players. House edge guarantees casinos to profit long-term and RTP can probably set for each day. For example, 90% RTP means 90% of money will go to players pocket while 10% will be left purely for casino.
My piece of advice is to just gamble for fun and don't spend millions in it. If high budget was enough to beat casinos, then they wouldn't really exist.