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November 13, 2023, 06:10:07 PM
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Such a unique and epic thread! I truly applaud op for the manner in which he is trying to help gambling addicts around the world along with the rest of his team since very, very few would think of doing all of this for free.

This seems like a legitimate operation when compared to certain imbeciles in this forum(Cabalism13 etc) who took advantage of warmhearted people for their own good.

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November 13, 2023, 10:00:30 PM
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It's so annoying when one is left helpless in using a casino when the contact system aren't giving the necessary attention to guide through.

It is mostly because agencies which are supposed to help people with problems like alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide ideation and gambling addiction are commonly unfunded, since most of them are non-profit organizations. That kind of entities mostly rely on donations and rarely get active funding from the government. So for example, of there are 100 people who are addicted to gambling and need counseling, the organization (in order to manage their limited services in a wise way) only hire 4 operators to take care of the questions and problems of those 100 gamblers who are seeking help.
The result is obvious, many (if not all) of those gambler will feel neglected by the system they attend to for help.
That is why I personally believe the most important thing to have when facing these problems is a good relationship with family and friends, to supplement the counseling one could get, public or private.

I think government has left much of the role of rehabitating addicts to NGOS. Government is said to be corrupt and can not freely handle organizations like that because money meant for such agencies end up in private accounts while affected persons languish in their own helplessness. Lately, it is the NGOs that have taken up such duties to cater for people who need such help. One thing about NGOs that is better than government in such case is that they have close contacts with the those affected unlike the government that seem far and ineffective because of corruption.

However funding is still the challenge of NGOs except those own by philanthropist and wealthy people then they can comfortably finance and take care of persons of such challenge.

One also needs to point out that the relationship governments have with NGOs can vary, depending on the political standing and the personal interest of those who are in power within the country. Perhaps, there must be some cases where people working as member of the congress get directly benefited from casinos and gambling activity in the country, so they do not care to fund organizations or hospitals which would help people in need because their addiction. Even if a NGO is well funded and willing to help in a specific country, some leaders do not think of their presence kindly, since it can imply the administration in such country is a failure when comes to social problems. That was the case in my country: the central government campaigned on being highly sensitive towards social problems and promised to take care of those how needed assistance, when they failed to make their promises a reality, those with addictions to substances and gambling had to seek for help in NGOs headquarters, there is when the friction between them and the government started. Specially because those NGOs openly speak of the atrocities the government allow to happen by not providing money to their own hospitals and psychiatric facilities.

There are too many NGO that are simple money grabbing groups that serve just to place the goverment list of people "owed a favour". However there are many legit ONGs in which they help people with strong social issues and integration problems, so I am sure there are many legit opportunities for those who are seeking to control their response to gambling and getting it under control.

But how much could the casino or these gambling organizations and platforms go in rendering this help to the people in need, also how effective could this be to the life of every gambler for their own benefits, we cannot compare the way the gamblers will first help themselves to how the other external rescues could be effective in making them have a better experience and change like never.



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November 13, 2023, 10:23:48 PM
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We have worked out our method to help people over time. We had ideas 5 years ago, and I have talked with 100s of addicts since then. Every time you learn something new. The biggest challenge we face is lack of motivation. Our members are often depressed, and I remember a time when I was depressed. You simply don't care about anything then. How do you motivate someone who has no motivation or energy? This is a topic I want to explore and find a solution to.
Giving motivation to someone who has lost their will is very difficult. I've encountered this where many people have tried to give him motivation but it doesn't work at all. He became increasingly lost in his own thoughts.

Last I heard, he almost fell into depression but fortunately, at that time, his consciousness came and made him accept what happened to him. And he was lucky because the people around him immediately provided help to get out of his depression. Maybe someone should be able to open their mind to accept their situation, whether slowly or using other methods.

Usually, after an acknowledgment from him that he is tired of his situation, he will experience an emotional upsurge. He can experience seizures because he cannot control his emotions. Someone should make him realize that he has a second chance to fix what is wrong. Someone needs to show you the way and when your consciousness begins to accept someone's explanation, continue with the method you are using.

You also use the same method as when you are depressed. Maybe it will work. You have to try more ways that might be different from before. Good luck.

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November 14, 2023, 02:42:58 AM
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There are no problems with registration. But i don`t want to register. At least i don`t want to leave any data for unknown site. I get enough spam letters yet to add some more. And without registration i can`t see anything interesting except several videos. Everybody can choose himself to register and test site, or just leave it. The OP asked feedback - he got it.
I think the data they get from the registration is the only thing that they can get from providing free access or free guide on how to quit gambling. Most of us will put dummy details into the registration form to achieve anonymity and I don't see a problem with that but I think the developers are thinking to use the data to improve their contents and monitor the flow of users in their application. The website has a good intention and I think that a few minutes and false information is enough for us to get contents on how to quit gambling.
I haven`t try it. But i don`t sure that everything is like it looks. If they just want to help and give you such content for free - they don`t need to make us register. And i think that at least i will get spam messages.
And i repeat it one more time. You can register if you want, it is your decision. I don`t want to register, it is my decision. We both can choose what to do ourselves. It is my feedback for the OP. He can change something or not, it is his decision.
A person's advice to quit gambling doesn't do much if someone doesn't try it themselves, there is a website with some scripts on how to help a gambler quit gambling.  Quitting gambling requires hard work on your part.  Gambling is one thing that can easily make a person addicted to its deep addiction.  To save ourselves from this addiction, we have to be careful from the beginning of gambling.  But when a person becomes deeply addicted, it becomes very difficult for him to quit gambling.  So I think it's enough if someone tries to gamble on their own.  I don't think it's very logical to quit gambling with the help of a website
Gambling is for others a disease , that almost Uncurable because if it is easy to cure then for sure there will be no addict gamblers that losing all their money evert single day.

Quitting needs both cooperation , from the involved gambler and for the method he uses to quiit.
some use family or friends while others uses professional help but this is how it works to act accordingly together.









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November 14, 2023, 04:04:25 AM
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It's so annoying when one is left helpless in using a casino when the contact system aren't giving the necessary attention to guide through.

It is mostly because agencies which are supposed to help people with problems like alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide ideation and gambling addiction are commonly unfunded, since most of them are non-profit organizations. That kind of entities mostly rely on donations and rarely get active funding from the government. So for example, of there are 100 people who are addicted to gambling and need counseling, the organization (in order to manage their limited services in a wise way) only hire 4 operators to take care of the questions and problems of those 100 gamblers who are seeking help.
The result is obvious, many (if not all) of those gambler will feel neglected by the system they attend to for help.
That is why I personally believe the most important thing to have when facing these problems is a good relationship with family and friends, to supplement the counseling one could get, public or private.

I think government has left much of the role of rehabitating addicts to NGOS. Government is said to be corrupt and can not freely handle organizations like that because money meant for such agencies end up in private accounts while affected persons languish in their own helplessness. Lately, it is the NGOs that have taken up such duties to cater for people who need such help. One thing about NGOs that is better than government in such case is that they have close contacts with the those affected unlike the government that seem far and ineffective because of corruption.

However funding is still the challenge of NGOs except those own by philanthropist and wealthy people then they can comfortably finance and take care of persons of such challenge.

One also needs to point out that the relationship governments have with NGOs can vary, depending on the political standing and the personal interest of those who are in power within the country. Perhaps, there must be some cases where people working as member of the congress get directly benefited from casinos and gambling activity in the country, so they do not care to fund organizations or hospitals which would help people in need because their addiction. Even if a NGO is well funded and willing to help in a specific country, some leaders do not think of their presence kindly, since it can imply the administration in such country is a failure when comes to social problems. That was the case in my country: the central government campaigned on being highly sensitive towards social problems and promised to take care of those how needed assistance, when they failed to make their promises a reality, those with addictions to substances and gambling had to seek for help in NGOs headquarters, there is when the friction between them and the government started. Specially because those NGOs openly speak of the atrocities the government allow to happen by not providing money to their own hospitals and psychiatric facilities.

There are too many NGO that are simple money grabbing groups that serve just to place the goverment list of people "owed a favour". However there are many legit ONGs in which they help people with strong social issues and integration problems, so I am sure there are many legit opportunities for those who are seeking to control their response to gambling and getting it under control.

But how much could the casino or these gambling organizations and platforms go in rendering this help to the people in need, also how effective could this be to the life of every gambler for their own benefits, we cannot compare the way the gamblers will first help themselves to how the other external rescues could be effective in making them have a better experience and change like never.
OP had mentioned about Him using His own Money to fund this from His own pocket which means whatever the effect or the outcome , the most important thing is the motivation , dedication and of course their mentorship to others in the future to extend their hands helping gamblers to learn how to decently play gambling and not to turn being addict .
it may be a long hard way but eventually it will pay off, that is in he long run.

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November 14, 2023, 05:01:18 AM
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From a casino affiliate that could easily earn some $$$$ to working with people that have problems coping
with gambling is selfless and commendable !!!

And looking at how good the idea is from its facevalue, is this service free of charge, and for users that face a language barrier do your have other options available...

Otherwise hope casino's around can find a way to work with you guys and get to intergrate your services into their platforms Smiley

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November 14, 2023, 06:36:34 AM
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You have not checked the site and you make conclusion. I only read the introductory path which has no complete information and I may not be exactly be correct either. The introductory path does not talk about quitting though.

I have not gone through the entire site details, but I made a quick preview of how to stop gambling addiction from the link provided in the OP.

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People that want people to quit addiction want addicted people to stop doing that thing that makes them addicted, like to stop smoking or gambling. It is better to stop than to continue to be addicted.

Too much of everything is bad, but being in control of whatever you are doing keeps you on the right track, and no one will criticise you for that. Unless those who have already made up their minds see such activity as bad, there is no point in stopping gambling.
 
If you can learn how to come out of the addiction page, then there is no problem with continuing to gamble. That's only if you are sure you can't go back there. The main reason why people are advised to leave whatever they get addicted to entirely is because there is no guarantee that, at the end of the day, they won't get addicted again.
There are things you really can't help yourself with unless you stop coming eye to eye in contact with that thing, I have my addictions too and it's not about gambling or money, it is food and taking too much do hurt me in the end but since I can't control myself I need to rescue myself, the only thing that worked for me is avoiding the food, I can't control myself to eat a little part and do the same another day.

I think this is what smokers are facing too, once they decide to go closer to someone who smokes they will end up going back to been a smoker, with addiction I believe there is no such thing as been in control while still participating in that thing, you either quit it or you surrender to it.

To stop been a gambling addict you have to stop gambling, I quit understand what OP is saying, to gamble responsible belongs to those that are half way to becoming as addicted gambler as they can still get their heads clear and do the right things, but for those that are already too addicted to gambling it's going to be hard for them to become a responsible gambler, they as better off staying away from gambling.

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I liked this platfrom it's easy to find pages, but OP said it's available in 3 languages but I seen only 2.(english is important btw)
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November 14, 2023, 09:15:10 AM
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Thank you OP for providing the solution, I think it's quite useful because lately my aggressive betting needs to be balanced with enlightenment. At least this can give me a warning of poor monthly management. This site is perfect to be used as a guide for some of my closest relatives because it seems they really need this kind of advice. The good thing is that there is an interaction option so it is easier to find each user's problem in real time.

After I read some of the articles here, I found many facts revealed, one of which was "finding gambling as a means to escape from boredom, stress and too much free time". I totally agree that this is an escape factor for people who aren't really that busy.

However, is there a summary of the results of the treatment that has been done? e.g. like documenting the pretest and posttest

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The site looks great, but the serif font used on the headings of the homepage looks a bit tacky. I suggest you change it to a sans-serif font and also make it a bit smaller so that word-wrapping doesn't occur. But I do like this initiative.

I liked this platfrom it's easy to find pages, but OP said it's available in 3 languages but I seen only 2.(english is important btw)

You'll find gambling addicts speaking all sorts of languages. 3 is certainly not enough.

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November 14, 2023, 09:42:17 PM
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There are things you really can't help yourself with unless you stop coming eye to eye in contact with that thing, I have my addictions too and it's not about gambling or money, it is food and taking too much do hurt me in the end but since I can't control myself I need to rescue myself, the only thing that worked for me is avoiding the food, I can't control myself to eat a little part and do the same another day.

I never knew people also get addicted to food too. If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time I've come across such a kind of addiction. I eat and I get fed up, and when I still see snacks or things that I like, I still buy them to keep my mouth busy. Will that also be considered a food addiction?

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I think this is what smokers are facing too, once they decide to go closer to someone who smokes they will end up going back to been a smoker, with addiction I believe there is no such thing as been in control while still participating in that thing, you either quit it or you surrender to it.

In this aspect of addiction, I will say everything is just based on discipline, and I will link this to drinking habits and addiction too. I know of someone who takes alcohol a lot and loses control of how much he consumes most of the time, which was really turning him to something else, but due to the disgrace and advice from family, he decided not to get involved in anything relating to alcohol ever again, but he still has a group of friends who are in that, like they sit out together and those people take alcohol, but he doesn't do that anymore instead he goes for other soft drinks around, and at the end of the day everyone goes home happy.
 
Inaspect of smoking, people can also still stop smoking and be around those who smoke, and they won't influence them unless it's someone who is determined enough to call it a stop in his smoking habit. Anything one wants to stop, they will stop it; it's just determination and self-training.

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To stop been a gambling addict you have to stop gambling, I quit understand what OP is saying, to gamble responsible belongs to those that are half way to becoming as addicted gambler as they can still get their heads clear and do the right things, but for those that are already too addicted to gambling it's going to be hard for them to become a responsible gambler, they as better off staying away from gambling.

Stopping gambling entirely is the best option that many people have given to addicts out there. Since the person can't control himself, it's best they just stop doing that thing, but whereas the person can learn some self-control and add a little discipline to himself, I can't advise them to stop. Although people have different points of view, I'm just going to give out my own piece of advice based on how I understand people and who is in question at that very moment.

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Such a unique and epic thread! I truly applaud op for how he is trying to help gambling addicts around the world along with the rest of his team since very, very few would think of doing all of this for free.

This seems like a legitimate operation when compared to certain imbeciles in this forum(Cabalism13 etc) who took advantage of warmhearted people for their own good.
The ops indeed is up for a good course really and that is something that we all have to applaud them for,  rendering a selfless service to help addicts in overcoming the hold of the addiction over is quite a necessity and a prime thing for us to do as a concern member of the gambling community that work and aim for the betterment of the entire community because if we have other individuals that have similar mindset of reality and danger of addictions and having the willingness to help,  will help the fight against addiction is the most effective ways.

But to this level,  we have to say that the ops have gone ahead of others to offer such unique can't for anyone in that category.
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Such a unique and epic thread! I truly applaud op for the manner in which he is trying to help gambling addicts around the world along with the rest of his team since very, very few would think of doing all of this for free.

This seems like a legitimate operation when compared to certain imbeciles in this forum(Cabalism13 etc) who took advantage of warmhearted people for their own good.
I think he's not the only one that knows about this site, there are more of members from the forum but kept it discreet specifically from newbies, as long as we're in the space, generating hugh figures should our concerns and sketch out the means to sort out important hindrance. Yes it is unique and important for every gambler to know about, OP just want to create awareness concerning the challenges uprising in the system and the provided means of resolving such problems. This aides serves an important purpose and everyone would be satisfied if their ends are meant.

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November 15, 2023, 06:16:31 AM
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I liked this platfrom it's easy to find pages, but OP said it's available in 3 languages but I seen only 2.(english is important btw)
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I could not found where is the forum is on the website,
I think all the good and important features are not totally for free it have membership to use all features.
We can just read lots of useful blog posts for free.

About the available languages, I have seen that it is already translated into Spanish, although there are a few sections that are not translated yet.

I applaud OP's initiative and, if he needs help with the Spanish translation (for free), count me in. Addictions ruin lives, not only addicted's life but loved ones' too, so any help like the one provided by the announced website is appreciated.

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However, is there a summary of the results of the treatment that has been done? e.g. like documenting the pretest and posttest

So far we only have written testimonials from users we talked to. We hope to develop a better way of measuring things next year.


I liked this platfrom it's easy to find pages, but OP said it's available in 3 languages but I seen only 2.(english is important btw)

You'll find gambling addicts speaking all sorts of languages. 3 is certainly not enough.

I'd love to have the website in 20 languages, but the cost of translating is about $6K and I don't have the funds for it. If we would get a sponsor, I would be happy to translate the website into more languages.

I liked this platfrom it's easy to find pages, but OP said it's available in 3 languages but I seen only 2.(english is important btw)
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I could not found where is the forum is on the website,
I think all the good and important features are not totally for free it have membership to use all features.
We can just read lots of useful blog posts for free.

The forum is available for the members in order to keep their discussion private. It would naturally be better for us to have it available on the website, because it creates free content for us. But it's more important to us that the users feel safe. Hence, you have to login to see the forum.
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The forum is available for the members in order to keep their discussion private. It would naturally be better for us to have it available on the website, because it creates free content for us. But it's more important to us that the users feel safe. Hence, you have to login to see the forum.

I like that OP opened such a site and informed all of us about it by opening a new topic on our forum. 
This is definitely a useful initiative and of course it should be further developed.  But what I can say in this regard is i that when a gambler himself begins to understand that he has already becmome addicted to gambling and should somehow fight against the addiction, this is already good and this is his first step towards recovery.
 Then, of course, he can look at the recommendations of this site and start doing something.  But unfortunately, the mass of players simply do not realize that they are already really sick with gaming and at the level of such addiction that already needs to be treated.  What should others do in relation to such players?  Well, apparently, for starters, just recommend it and go to the s ite.  But unfortunately, such players simply brush aside this recommendation and ignore comments from their close relatives, who have already realized that there is a serious addiction.  It is necessary to somehow stimulate the involvement of players who are not aware of their illness to this information.

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It doesn`t matter how someone decide to quit gambling. If someone need assistance - ok, he can use the site, the book, something else. In such situation all choices can be right decision. I don`t need it and haven`t try, so i can`t recommend the best way.
But right here we see the site, that requires registration and promises to help. I don`t sure that it is really help, without any requirements.
If someone is trying to get rid of gambling from his mind and looking for different ways then this site can work for him.  But there are very few people who want to quit gambling. And those who want to leave Ajwa can leave themselves.  But thanks also to whoever made this site because it might save someone's life from deep gambling addiction. I am not speaking against this site but if one is not trying to quit gambling then this site is of no use to him.
I doesn`t cares about quit gambling, i don`t have any problems with gambling. I`m just talking about site here. It looks ok, may be it can be useful for someone, trying to quit gambling, but i can`t say something more without registration. And i don`t want to register.
Ok, lets try an example. If i would try to quit gambling and it will be a problem for me - the registration can make me leave this site and it become useless for someone, who really needs it.

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From a casino affiliate that could easily earn some $$$$ to working with people that have problems coping
with gambling is selfless and commendable !!!

And looking at how good the idea is from its facevalue, is this service free of charge, and for users that face a language barrier do your have other options available...

Otherwise hope casino's around can find a way to work with you guys and get to intergrate your services into their platforms Smiley

I think this service is free of charge as i checked the website i can not really see anywhere they asked for a fee to access or receive anything in return for payment made by a visitor only thing they made was a support  which is a free will donation thing for any visitor who is buoyant to do so. They already made available materials and articles for a gambler who is seeking for assistance and ways to minimize the rate at which they gamble. I took my time to read them and the articles were all insightful, educative and encouraging enough for whoever is willing to quit gambling to follow the steps they have provided via their website.

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November 15, 2023, 09:35:51 PM
 #139

I'm just wondering how it works seriously.
Sometimes in the reality of this whole thing, it's almost impossible to convince and hypnotize a person to forgetting his gambling habits, talkmore of doing it online.. looks to me like something that's way too difficult to cope with.

well, it could as well be helpful since alot of peeps have given recommendations to it already... I'm not an addict but I understand how addiction can be very clingy.

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November 15, 2023, 09:44:56 PM
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If a gambler is challenged with a particular and personal experience with using a gambling platform, he can get the required assistance needed from the community like this by first sharing his own side of view and then others may know how they can come in, if it's gambling issues with the particular platform, then the casino have to be the one responsible for the response to each of their users challenges as such could be better treated on their announcement discussion thread.



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