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November 08, 2023, 10:11:55 AM
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I wanted to visit Ratimov's encyclopedia but I found this error:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364418.0

here the whole content of the thread and it's title is missing from bitcointalk website and on browser tab too.
I pasted encyclopedia's address to other browser but facing same issue there. I don't know if it is forum related or something else.
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November 08, 2023, 10:14:56 AM
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Ratimov edited it and changed it to what you are seeing, it is not an error. Ratimov behavior these days is worrying and not appropriate. That is one of his self-moderated thread, I will not be surprised if he deletes all posts on the thread as has been doing to people recently.

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November 08, 2023, 10:15:00 AM
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If you check the thread you’ll see that it was last edited November 6th so my take is that everything was edited out of the thread, so it’s not just an error on your end.

Edit:

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November 08, 2023, 10:21:26 AM
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I just checked ninjastic.spce to see if it will show the difference but I could get any.

No it wouldn’t show a difference the post will still be there, once you search topic using the topic ID you would find it there, I think it is just like what happens to delete posts which can still be seen there, if a post is edited both new one and the edited one will be there.
OP here is a link to the thread you can check for what you want here https://ninjastic.space/topic/5364418.0

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November 08, 2023, 10:27:21 AM
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Is this even a serious thread. You are in the forum for almost a year and you do not know what to take when you see such topics? I think you missed to read this thread.

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November 08, 2023, 10:28:15 AM
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I don't think that it's a forum issue or error. Maybe the op edited his topic.
However I visited Ninja Space and saw no edit status or history showing.
Here is the archived link below of this topic
https://ninjastic.space/post/58120908

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November 08, 2023, 10:37:00 AM
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No one give a correct answer so far.

@OP that's not error, but it's because theymos restored the thread.

I see no evidence of misconduct, though it was incorrect to delete topics with substantial replies. All of the deleted topics with replies have been restored to Archival.

Anyone can edit the subject and the post, but you can't leave it "blank" without any character. You can try by yourself to edit your thread in archival, you will receive an error message.

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November 08, 2023, 10:42:37 AM
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I don't see any error from the image you pointed to but it shows edited November 6. He might just edit and erase them all for some reason.

If you check the thread you’ll see that it was last edited November 6th so my take is that everything was edited out of the thread, so it’s not just an error on your end.

Edit:

I just checked ninjastic.spce to see if it will show the difference but I could get any.

It's fine to me even if it loads slowly maybe you're just too excited let it load for a while.

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November 08, 2023, 11:01:46 AM
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here the whole content of the thread and it's title is missing from bitcointalk website and on browser tab too.
I pasted encyclopedia's address to other browser but facing same issue there. I don't know if it is forum related or something else.


That's not an error; the post was edited by the OP himself/herself "Last edit: November 06, 2023, 08:40:00 PM by Ratimov," and they intentionally cleared out all their posts.

Such topics were treasures on their own, and you can see theymos also merited the topic with 50 merit; that's how valuable it was. But still, it's the choice of the poster, since the Bitcointalk forum allows you to delete or edit any of your topics/posts. So I guess there's nothing wrong here, just sad that we lost a good informational post.

As other users suggested, you can view the old post on ninjastic.space, but for now, it's not on Bitcointalk anymore.

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November 08, 2023, 12:40:19 PM
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I just checked ninjastic.spce to see if it will show the difference but I could get any.

It's fine to me even if it loads slowly maybe you're just too excited let it load for a while.

I was trying to see if it will show the difference between when it was edited and when it was not so that the op could see for himself; I was not referring to the entire thread not displaying in ninjastic seems like you guess misunderstood my post.

Take for example, the op you’ll see that there is a “ Content was edited[difference]” option but it’s not for Ratimov’s own despite been edited.

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November 08, 2023, 01:06:04 PM
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I wanted to visit Ratimov's encyclopedia but I found this error

That's no error.

It's just Ratimov's futile attempt of covering his plagiarism from the past, when he deleted 78 topics, by fooling Russian mods and transforming them in his personal garbage men.

For more detail you can also read this topic.

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November 08, 2023, 02:03:17 PM
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Anyone can edit the subject and the post, but you can't leave it "blank" without any character. You can try by yourself to edit your thread in archival, you will receive an error message.

There is a '.' in the message body:

Code:
[quote author=Ratimov link=topic=5364418.msg58120908#msg58120908 date=1633603569]
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But for the title, there is a trick I don't know. I see it as empty, and that's not normally possible.

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November 08, 2023, 02:17:45 PM
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Anyone can edit the subject and the post, but you can't leave it "blank" without any character. You can try by yourself to edit your thread in archival, you will receive an error message.

There is a '.' in the message body:

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[quote author=Ratimov link=topic=5364418.msg58120908#msg58120908 date=1633603569]
[size=1pt].[/size]
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But for the title, there is a trick I don't know. I see it as empty, and that's not normally possible.


if the post is edited then why ninjastic.space shows this "No edit history was found for this post."

does ninjastic doesn't count or index updated posts with small dots?... or something?
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November 08, 2023, 02:32:25 PM
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if the post is edited then why ninjastic.space shows this "No edit history was found for this post."

does ninjastic doesn't count or index updated posts with small dots?... or something?

Because ninjastic doesn't check edits after a certain period of time.

My bot scrapes every post two times: once when it is posted and another time after 5 minutes. If the post was edited at that point, after the first 5 minutes, the changes will show up on the edit history. That’s it.

If you edit a post 10 times, or edit a post after 1 day, 7 days, … there is no way for me (and my bot) to know since keeping track of every change is impossible.

Tryninja would have to have a hell of a lot of computing power to check all the bitcointalk posts all the time.

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November 08, 2023, 06:50:46 PM
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I wanted to visit Ratimov's encyclopedia but I found this error:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364418.0

here the whole content of the thread and it's title is missing from bitcointalk website and on browser tab too.
I pasted encyclopedia's address to other browser but facing same issue there. I don't know if it is forum related or something else.


There's something I need to understand. Was this topic deleted by Ratimov himself? I mean the famous Beginners and Help Encyclopaedia? That topic is too good to be deleted by the autor. The information therein is superb. I mean, what must have prompted the deletion of the thread? Could it be because the thread was not pinned by theymos or something relating to that.

Something extraordinary must have happened. I do not believe that anyone could put such an effort to create that kind of topic and out of vexation deletes everything. This shouldn't be accepted. I think the admin has the power to restore such a topic. Well, it is the intellectual property of Ratimov, maybe he has the power to do whatever he wishes with it.

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November 08, 2023, 07:20:03 PM
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There's something I need to understand.

For understanding you could just read the replies made inside this topic.

Was this topic deleted by Ratimov himself?

Your answer is here.

Well, it is the intellectual property of Ratimov, maybe he has the power to do whatever he wishes with it.

Of course. He managed for years to steal the intellectual property of many authors, why couldn't he do whatever he wants with his intellectual property (assuming that was his intellectual property)?

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November 08, 2023, 07:39:33 PM
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I wanted to visit Ratimov's encyclopedia but I found this error:

here the whole content of the thread and it's title is missing from bitcointalk website and on browser tab too.
I pasted encyclopedia's address to other browser but facing same issue there. I don't know if it is forum related or something else.


Like everyone else said, that's not an error but a conscious decision by the OP of the thread. We can blank our own threads but we can't delete them ourselves and if I'm not wrong then only moderators are allowed to delete the threads of a user. In the above case the OP erased his post because he might have thought that it isn't needed anymore.

I don't know what's going on but I have seen many members of the forum find the actions of Ratimov unacceptable. I don't know what's the matter but I think Ratimov is among the reputed members of the forum. But, I'm not here to take anyone's side and would love to stay away from any clashes that are taking between some members.

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November 08, 2023, 08:09:07 PM
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I wanted to visit Ratimov's encyclopedia but I found this error:

How can you call that an error? You should know that it was an edited post where the OP deleted the entire topic, and if you really read that thread, you can see that some parts of the topic were being quoted in some comments. You can decide to edit your topic and delete everything, leaving it blank, but you can't delete the comments of other members. That's why you are seeing a blank page because the OP, edited and delete everything he wrote.

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November 08, 2023, 08:11:59 PM
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Ratimov edited it and changed it to what you are seeing, it is not an error. Ratimov behavior these days is worrying and not appropriate. That is one of his self-moderated thread, I will not be surprised if he deletes all posts on the thread as has been doing to people recently.
I have also observed that, like in the recent case in which he deleted his replies, another member's post got merged as one, and after asking, that member has to face some difficulty too. Of course, merging reduced the number of posts to 1, which is also a loss in terms of signature count.

I hope his account is not being used by any other person, because this behaviour is really worrying as he is an asset to this bitcointalk community as he came up with a lot of good topics and compilations of different topics like his encyclopaedia topic, etc.

And you are right, it is not an error as the OP can change the title whenever he is making the reply under a post. Even the member can change the title of the post other than the OP's one, but in this case, the post is the original one, so it can only be changed by the OP, so I don't know what the reasoning behind it is. Maybe he doesn't like the title and wants to change it.

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November 08, 2023, 08:43:52 PM
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This isn’t a topic for meta, you should know quite well that what you experienced wasn’t a glitch in the forum system. It’s obvious the OP made some modifications to the thread, you can see the OP was last edited in November 6, so what’s the confusion about? There are already a couple of threads on reputation regarding Ratimov recent activities. If you have something to say about Ratimov, you should say it in any one of those threads. 

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