A gambler's family action.

[Lida93]

During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

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[uneng]

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles.

This is so ironical. While many people are gambling dreaming about acquiring enough money to purchase properties and gadgets, this man is selling his in order to gamble... He is going on the exact opposite way he should. Since he already has properties, he should care for them and make them work for him to generate profit and prosperity in his life. Instead, he is wasting everything on gambling, and for what reason? That seems so sick and pointless!

Of course this man needs help, because he is completely out of his mind. His family is trying what they can do help him, and every attempts are valid, in my opinion. They are doing their part to help the young man, although nothing will happen if the man doesn't want to help himself...

[FatFork]

Okay, so if his family doesn't have any real proof from legitimate institutions saying their brother has a gambling addiction, they probably have no legal basis for a lawsuit.  I mean, the guy's an adult after all.  Unless he literally cant make choices for himself anymore he can do whatever he wants that's legal.  It doesn't sound like the casino did anything wrong here.  The brother makes his own choices, even if they're bad ones.  His family might not like that he gambles too much, but that doesnt mean they can blame the casino and  he goes there of his own free will. So yeah without evidence their brother is actually addicted, the family doesn't have much of a case.

[Wiwo]

Yes, this is an extreme length for gambling and is a case of class addiction to gambling since the whole family is involved in the act and have encouraged the young man with their inaction to stop him from selling personal belonging to fund his gambling,  this is the most evil thing to do,  since gambling has no guarantee of winning and also gambling should just be treated as means of having fun but not to an extreme level were you possibly depends on it to find any part of your life.

So for sure, the families have no case,  because just by declaration that the brother havean  addiction problem alone is not a guarantee since the revelation is made only when he has lost everything.

[alani123]

This is the reason self exclusion must be an enforceable measure! If a family member is causing substantial harm to his peers by exceeding limits over his addiction, then it should be reasonable for his family to try and limit him for his and their own wellbeing as well. But if that person is completely cut off from the family and independent the family should try to become overreaching.

It honestly all depends on the context. There could be legal grounds on the "brother" to also sue and win himself because if he's sand and not putting himself or others in danger while living alone and maintaining a job for instance, then he's not bothering anybody. Gambling down to your last remaining penny is your right, even if it keeps you poor, but so long as you don't become a burden to others by doing it, no matter how degenerate, wasted potential isn't a good enough excuse for a family to try and commandeer your life.

Furthermore, if a problem gambler doesn't realize the effects of his addiction on his own, he'll never get himself out of the hole he's really digging to his own detriment. Value also exists in understanding your own situation after acceptance. You need to work on yourself other than just being restricted.

[Silberman]

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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

I do not think the family has any legal ground to stand on when threatening casinos to sue them if they accepted the money coming from their family member, however at the same time I do not think it is too extreme, since it is natural that your loved ones will do whatever they can in order to protect you, even if that means going against your wishes, and when it comes to whether or not share the money, I think that assuming he won he will still have to share some of that money with his family, as they are doing this because they care about him and not because they are just trying to make his life difficult for no reason.

[Yogee]

1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

This is such a weird scenario but I can understand what the family is doing. Can you confirm how young is this gambler? Is he below the legal age to gamble? If that's the case then it's probably not that extreme for the family to ask the gambling shops not to accommodate him and also to uphold the law prohibiting underage gambling.

The family's way of intervening isn't going to last though since that man will be of legal age sooner or later.

[Davidvictorson]

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Nonsense. The family has no legal ground to sue any sportsbookies. If they try it, the bookies can counter sue them and win a lot of money from the ignorance of the family. Neither the sportsbook, the boy or the family has any signed and written contractual agreement so there is nothing binding them.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

This measure they took can never make the boy stop betting. Instead it will increase it because he will want to make money from gambling so that he can get as far away from them as possible for tarnishing his image.

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

If I win, I keep all monies to myself. My family has got nothing on me. They have already done an irreparable damage by publishing my pictures and distributing it around without my consent. I probably will never forgive them too.

[Oilacris]

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

1. It is for your own good and we know that family knows best on whats for you, if they do saw you that you are addicted already too much with gambling then the thing they have done is
just right. They dont really just like that you would really be ending up miserable or mess up your life with gambling.

2. Im not that a selfish person, even if they have been stopping me lately about my gambling urge or activity but still family is family. Money is just a tool or thing
which family cant really be replaced. Of course it would really be sharing up in case i have win significant amount of money.

ACtions made out by your loved ones just to make you stop gambling because they've already seen something bad will not be always a negative thing.
The wrong this is upon you.

[robelneo]

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

It must have been alarming that they've gone to this extreme to stop addiction. when we care for our loved ones we will also go to the extreme so that he will not go from bad to worse, it may not be a good action but they have to think of a way to stop their family members from total addiction although it will haver a bad effect.

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gamble within your neighborhood and luckily you won a huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you just stay off from them and live new found wealthy alone?

Share your thoughts!

Even if I want to I don't think they are going to accept knowing that it comes from something that they don't want me to attach myself, but since they are family I will still allocate a portion because after all these bad things we are still family and we have to pass tough times, it will also teach them a lesson that there's still good things that comes out in bad scenarios

[Jemzx00]

Legally speaking, his family did nothing as gambling establishment can still let this man gamble on their casinos even with their warning as they have no legal basis to sue them. Also, his family not only did an extreme action but they also didn't focus on the problem which is their family member whose addicted to gambling. Instead of them fixing this man, they've inconvenience other businesses.

As per your question, (1) they're actions were extreme but they didn't really help him on stopping his gambling activities. (2) If I were on that gambling addict's position and won a huge amount, I would probably help other people and relatives but would end up broke soon due to continuous gambling activity.

[Lida93]

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles.

This is so ironical. While many people are gambling dreaming about acquiring enough money to purchase properties and gadgets, this man is selling his in order to gamble... He is going on the exact opposite way he should. Since he already has properties, he should care for them and make them work for him to generate profit and prosperity in his life. Instead, he is wasting everything on gambling, and for what reason? That seems so sick and pointless!

Gambling addiction is in divers parameters that when you come around some compulsive gambler whose addiction is so intensive you may wonder if they are cursed as a result of how they acting in the opposite direction with their gambling habit.

Just in similar manner some drug addicts behaves in selling their properties to have cash to buy drugs to satisfy their urge that's in same manner some gamblers exercise their addiction too.  Gambling can be an activity for leisure and calm down from stress and at same time it can be harmful if we are not watchful of how we manage our gambling life.

[Wexnident]

1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Said level of extremes depends on how much an addict a person is. If said person sold his assets and properties to gamble, then you'd better be sure as hell that his/her family would do everything to stop his addiction. Heck, this is already light enough really, would've placed him in some sort/form of house arrest if possible just to calm himself down and maybe find a new hobby.

An addict doesn't share jack, they gamble it all again. Greed is insatiable, and they're always at that point in time where "just one more big win" and stuff like that. Though I guess there'd be some that might move on, those are really in the minority imo. And to add, having a lot of money doesn't exactly remove the idea of being addicted in the picture. I mean, look at some lottery winners who spend their money like water after getting a large sum all of a sudden. I reckon the same would happen to addicts really.

[alegotardo]

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

A person addicted to gambling will always find a way to feed their addiction.
The family's action is certainly valid, as I noticed in their report that they are determined to do everything possible to keep their family member away from the games, but unfortunately it is necessary for the player himself to realize the harm he is causing to his family. and have the desire to change your playing style.
If the player himself is not aware that he needs to change, then unfortunately, all the family's efforts will have been in vain.

It's sad to see how a family can be destroyed by an addiction... and I believe that every casino should take more responsibility for this too, I think that a "black list of addicted players" would perhaps be something useful and effective.

[Westinhome]

A person addicted to gambling will always find a way to feed their addiction.
The family's action is certainly valid, as I noticed in their report that they are determined to do everything possible to keep their family member away from the games, but unfortunately it is necessary for the player himself to realize the harm he is causing to his family. and have the desire to change your playing style.
If the player himself is not aware that he needs to change, then unfortunately, all the family's efforts will have been in vain.

It's sad to see how a family can be destroyed by an addiction... and I believe that every casino should take more responsibility for this too, I think that a "black list of addicted players" would perhaps be something useful and effective.

The gambling addicted person will d aarnge of the funds in different way in the gambling.They even go the gambling place and make the gambling owner to allow the free game in the offline mode.So the addicted person also get money from their friends and family member in the gambling.The worst part of the gambling addicted person was he get funds from the close friends and their family memebers.So this leads to the mis respect of the good friend by taking loan to their friends family for gambling addiction.

[Slow death]

Sometimes it is necessary for people to take tough measures to prevent their relative addicted to gambling from gambling, in this case relatives cannot threaten store owners because stores are private properties, store owners can complain to the police and they say that the addict's relatives are putting their store in danger and the addicts' relatives could be arrested. What the addict's relatives should do is the following: they should put the case in court and then the court will schedule a hearing and then force the addicted relative to have an appointment with a doctor and if it is proven that the guy is addicted, then he would be hospitalized

and all the assets of the guy addicted to gambling will be managed by his relatives until the addict is cured. This is where it creates a problem, because the addicted relative will be hospitalized very far from contact with people and this makes him hate his relatives to the point that even when he is cured, he will continue to hate his relatives because the relatives will keep the property. from him. although this is not true, but in his head he thought that his relatives put him in court to keep his money and his hatred could last until death. This is why it is necessary to talk a lot with the addict to reach an agreement

[AmoreJaz]

Sometimes it is necessary for people to take tough measures to prevent their relative addicted to gambling from gambling, in this case relatives cannot threaten store owners because stores are private properties, store owners can complain to the police and they say that the addict's relatives are putting their store in danger and the addicts' relatives could be arrested. What the addict's relatives should do is the following: they should put the case in court and then the court will schedule a hearing and then force the addicted relative to have an appointment with a doctor and if it is proven that the guy is addicted, then he would be hospitalized

and all the assets of the guy addicted to gambling will be managed by his relatives until the addict is cured. This is where it creates a problem, because the addicted relative will be hospitalized very far from contact with people and this makes him hate his relatives to the point that even when he is cured, he will continue to hate his relatives because the relatives will keep the property. from him. although this is not true, but in his head he thought that his relatives put him in court to keep his money and his hatred could last until death. This is why it is necessary to talk a lot with the addict to reach an agreement

that addicted person will always find a way to gamble, maybe not in their area but other places where no one knows him. it may be a tough move from his relatives but i guess, that's not the right approach on this problem.
because if they won't talk and discuss this problem to the person himself, they won't resolve the situation. what they need to do is find a way for the person to cooperate on how to change his lifestyle for the better.

[danherbias07]

1. If you love your family then you can go extreme on ways to prevent him gamble again. It's alright for me and they are doing it for the right thing.

2. It's difficult to put ourselves in the same position as the gambling addict in the story especially if we haven't been on what he went through. Most of us are not gambling addicts here so imagining to be in his position is not an easy thing to do.
Well, if I did win big then I would definitely share it with my family.
But the problem is do we all have the same traditional belief as other people? I don't think so. It's up to him and considering his situation, I really doubt it could be shared because if he can go to the extreme of going to another place just to continue his bad habits then why would he come back if ever he wins a lot of money?
There's a high chance he will keep on avoiding his family just so he can do anything without anyone posting his pictures all over the neighborhood again and prevent his addiction.

[STT]

A family shouldnt have to do this by hand, a court should be able to do as much on a regular basis for any requested people.   Its still not a solution for this person only a delay, if they cant stop themselves they will find a gambling game to take.  Its not hard to just play cards all day and gamble, so he has to find a better solution then closed shops.    Occupy his hands and mind with something  nicer is necessary, I dont know what but often people have hidden talents but lack focus to develop their skills into a profession to do well by.

[o48o]

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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

I am not sure where in the world this happened but it certainly wouldn't fly in here. Those gambling places would basically be holding an illegal register, even if the register contains one person.
Not even bars can have pictures of banned people, they will just have to remember them. Also it's far from effective, and might have worked 100 years ago when regulations were looser and moer people used to know each other in the same village or city.

Like you said, all you need to do is change the scenery and play in somewhere else. Or just play online. If the person wasn't grounded and offline, there's only so many ways to restrict them. Better way would be convincing them not to gamble, and find them something else to do. Something else to fill their time with.