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November 13, 2023, 10:51:26 AM
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For me it feels like the family went a bit overboard with the whole distributing-the-photo-to-gambling-shops move.  It doesnt feel like family at all. I get they want to help, but it might not be the most practical solution. Addiction is tricky and putting a face on it doesn't always solve the deeper issue. Maybe a more supportive and professional approach could do the trick.
So, if I hit the jackpot while sneaking off for a gamble, I'd probably use the cash to sort out my gambling mess. I will help myself first and will prove my family wrong by helping them too. It's like turning the whole gambling fiasco into a chance for a fresh start and maybe some better vibes with the loved ones.Sounds hard but not impossible.

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November 13, 2023, 10:53:40 AM
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The young man could go to another city for many reasons to gamble. As compulsive gamblers, they can do things that are beyond our reason. They can even move to another city for the reason of wanting to find a new atmosphere. In fact, that is one way for them to be able to gamble again without anyone watching.

This young man's family has done something we didn't expect because he wanted to do something different from the others. This is courage that needs to be appreciated because it could embarrass the young man from gambling in his city. But he was able to move to another city secretly so he could gamble again.

If it were me, I would share the winnings with people I care about. But if they don't want to, I'll enjoy it myself. I don't need to force it on them.
The possibility for this to happen is high. As stated, the guy was selling his personal assets to provide for his gambling. The guy may go to another city to continue his gambling activities or find a chance to gamble online instead. What the family should also do is talk to the guy and make him understand that he needs help for being addicted to gambling. And to the man who is addicted to gambling is lucky that his family still cares and can do such a thing to at least have him stop gambling activities.


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November 13, 2023, 12:08:08 PM
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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
What they did will hurt the reputation of their brother but they must have seen how the brother disobeyed them and that he would not listen to them anymore so they have gone to this extreme to ask the establishment for his brother to be excluded, the shame of one is the shame of the family so they have no recourse but to go to this extreme.

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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
If they agree to accept the money coming from gambling that they hate then the family has no principles, so I prefer not to give them for fear that they will shame me again but I will allocate a portion for them so in the future when everything goes well between us, I can give them a part of my winnings, family is family in the end they should sympathize with each other in times of needs we only have a family to help or bail us.

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November 13, 2023, 12:24:33 PM
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During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

I must say this guy is not the smartest of them,selling his wealth to gamble is plain stupid from a logical perspective.It is much better to rent those properties if he cannot manage them or sell them in order to build something new,some new business out of those money.

The compulsive gambler can do the worst of the extreme and moving to a far remote area is something easy to do when you have that enough money to spend.The family is responsible for him to teach him proper education and to tell him that gambling over the long term can bring bad consequences.For me the family is the best agency of education and in the end the fault is only theirs.

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November 13, 2023, 12:48:23 PM
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The young man could go to another city for many reasons to gamble. As compulsive gamblers, they can do things that are beyond our reason. They can even move to another city for the reason of wanting to find a new atmosphere. In fact, that is one way for them to be able to gamble again without anyone watching.

This young man's family has done something we didn't expect because he wanted to do something different from the others. This is courage that needs to be appreciated because it could embarrass the young man from gambling in his city. But he was able to move to another city secretly so he could gamble again.

If it were me, I would share the winnings with people I care about. But if they don't want to, I'll enjoy it myself. I don't need to force it on them.
If you are that someone whose really that totally addicted and compulsive to gambling then you would definitely be that considering on going into other town on which you do know that you could really be able to play but since you do still have that respect into your family then you wont really be tending to go into other places just for the sake of gambling. If you are a person who do really love to revenge into those people who had despise you or really have that bad look into you then  you would really be not that minding even if they are a family but well majority of us would really be giving out that kind of importance specially into your family. In case you do win something big then sharing up would really be your first action to be made. Its never been that ideal on being that loving on taking up some revenge just because they are really that stopping you on doing gambling, bare in mind that they are really just that doing this because they do love you.
They've seen something that shouldnt really be done or simply they are really that in concern, sometimes it might be that too much but better to understand on their concern.
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November 13, 2023, 01:28:52 PM
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It's a big shame if you condemn something and because of money you later accept it, many people are this shameless today, and they aren't ready to hide it, they have no sense of honor or discipline, I have hated some crime ways of making money in my past and that's because it's wrong, yet it makes many pellet to be rich but I stood on my ways, when its a no let it be a no even when things are looking shiny for them.

If you believe that gambling money is ill gotten money then do not take money from anyone that's into gambling, I have seen such habit only from religion fanatics, they take everything too seriously and who I am to say that they are wrong? Maybe this is an escape for them to at least not end up doing the same thing?

Everyone has their own weak points and strong points too, for many to avoid doing bad things they use hate, I know fathers that disown their children because of gambling but generally it's for their own good, but understanding really matters, if your kids found a way to be a reason responsible gambler they are in safe hands, leave them be.

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November 13, 2023, 01:47:50 PM
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I don't think the family has gone too far from threatening the casinos and sue them once they have allowed their family member to gamble. It's an initial reaction from a family and if they can't stop him from gambling and selling all his properties, probably talking to the casino shop owner is the last option. However, this is not enough reason that they will sue the casino for that, they can only do that if they can prove that the casino has been performing against the rules and is creating their own rule for their personal aims and goals.

In addition, to answer the second question, even if your family has not supported your gambling habit all the way, but you can't just easily erase the fact that family will always be a family. The one you can rely on when everything are turning backs on you. And if they don't tolerate your gambling addiction, that's because they don't want you to end up being harmed and homeless. With that, still be thankful for them and share whatever you are capable to share, even if it's the money you won from gambling.

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November 13, 2023, 01:54:47 PM
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During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

I must say this guy is not the smartest of them,selling his wealth to gamble is plain stupid from a logical perspective.It is much better to rent those properties if he cannot manage them or sell them in order to build something new,some new business out of those money.

The point of view or logical thinking must always be done in any case, especially when we are solving a problem, none other than because it is with a healthy and logical mindset that we will be able to find the right solution to overcome everything. With this then I can already conclude that those who are willing to sell their wealth just to gamble then they are one of the people whose brains and minds are abnormal and disturbed. That's a very appropriate statement for stupid people who are willing to spend everything they have on a place that only relies on luck and there is no guarantee for them to recover or return or even get a bigger amount for the large capital they are willing to spend. Yes that's right, in this case I do see that the middle way that should be done if they are no longer able to manage their property assets then it is better to rent it out or sell it to someone else, that way you will get money for sure every month or year when a tenant pays rent for the property you have, it's better and more reasonable.

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November 13, 2023, 02:02:46 PM
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The young man could go to another city for many reasons to gamble. As compulsive gamblers, they can do things that are beyond our reason. They can even move to another city for the reason of wanting to find a new atmosphere. In fact, that is one way for them to be able to gamble again without anyone watching.

This young man's family has done something we didn't expect because he wanted to do something different from the others. This is courage that needs to be appreciated because it could embarrass the young man from gambling in his city. But he was able to move to another city secretly so he could gamble again.

If it were me, I would share the winnings with people I care about. But if they don't want to, I'll enjoy it myself. I don't need to force it on them.
Moving cities to gamble indicates compulsive gambling in the young man. Moving won't heal this dangerous addiction. Online gambling is risky and addictive regardless of location. The gambling itself, not your location, is what matters. Sharing wins is lovely, but let's be sensible. Big wins in internet gambling are rare. House odds are favourable. Thus, winnings sharing is a fiction. If loved ones don't want to participate, they're probably wary. They know gambling is risky and addictive

This requires a broad perspective. Gambling harms gamblers and their relationships. Understand gambling's effects, not just the possible gains. I'd tell him, "Treat the addiction, not move. You must make responsible decisions and comprehend how your actions affect others and yourself." The fundamental issue is that

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November 13, 2023, 02:07:56 PM
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~~~threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.


This doesn't make sense----how can a gambling shop be sued for letting people play? They're a business, and winning is essential for their profitability. They welcome anyone, regardless of whether the gambler has a problem or not. Threatening legal action against a gambling shop could have serious consequences for the addicted gambler's family. They might end up being counter-sued and have to pay damages. It seems like they don't fully grasp the situation, perhaps out of desperation.

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November 13, 2023, 02:13:50 PM
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You cannot help a person who doesn't want to be helped. Absolutely nothing you can do. Even if you go for therapy, the therapist will tell you that. The best the family could have done was to put in in a situation where he would see that gambling addiction is damaging and can ruin his career. If I were the boy and my family treated me in that manner, they would probably not hear from me again for a long time to come. I would hate them for life.

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November 13, 2023, 02:14:46 PM
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For me it feels like the family went a bit overboard with the whole distributing-the-photo-to-gambling-shops move.  It doesnt feel like family at all. I get they want to help, but it might not be the most practical solution. Addiction is tricky and putting a face on it doesn't always solve the deeper issue. Maybe a more supportive and professional approach could do the trick.
I believe his family already warn him and gave many advice in order to stop gambling, but he's stubborn and keep gamble, this way his family did this. If he's really mad because his family is try anything to stop him to gamble, he could move to other city and no one can disturb him.

I think the better way is make sure every of his assets use his family name, it could be his wife, mother, father etc. So whenever he has spent all of his money, it will not give a bad effect to his family.

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November 13, 2023, 02:17:45 PM
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It's a big shame if you condemn something and because of money you later accept it, many people are this shameless today, and they aren't ready to hide it, they have no sense of honor or discipline, I have hated some crime ways of making money in my past and that's because it's wrong, yet it makes many pellet to be rich but I stood on my ways, when its a no let it be a no even when things are looking shiny for them.

If you believe that gambling money is ill gotten money then do not take money from anyone that's into gambling, I have seen such habit only from religion fanatics, they take everything too seriously and who I am to say that they are wrong? Maybe this is an escape for them to at least not end up doing the same thing?

Everyone has their own weak points and strong points too, for many to avoid doing bad things they use hate, I know fathers that disown their children because of gambling but generally it's for their own good, but understanding really matters, if your kids found a way to be a reason responsible gambler they are in safe hands, leave them be.

You had totally against your family mate,seems you had suffered a lot from your family memebers.It’s true some family will not respect the people who not earning their family even they are elder person in the family.So the same was changed once they become the rich person by the hard work,but in gambling this type of type of the gambler will get rich using the luck to the game.Many family members was against the gambling because of the religious practice of their family.Some other people will start to criticise you based on the money holding by you,when you don’t have enough money.They will started to criticise you why you doing gambling at less financial condition.So our victory alone the good answer for them.
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November 13, 2023, 02:19:20 PM
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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

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I will not conclude that the family went to the extreme until I know their past efforts to make him become a responsible gambler. I don't know the pains, financial losses, and disgrace that the family has suffered because of this young man. If sending his picture to a different in-house gambling location will help to reduce his addiction then the family did the right thing. They love him and know the best for him, so this action was to help him and not to disgrace him. But he could easily switch to online betting without restrictions.

If he is sensible he would know that selling his property to gamble is abnormal. He also recognizes that family members took those drastic actions because they care and are concerned about his well-being. I will gladly share my wins with them because they care. And such money should be maximized so there is no need to move out of the house. I will still stay with my family to cut costs and ensure the win is invested accordingly.

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November 13, 2023, 02:33:10 PM
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I understand his family why they acted like that and for me it's only natural because they are worried and really care for that young man. They want to protect it from any harm even if you think what they are doing to you is going against everything you want to do.

If I were in his situation and assuming that I won a large amount in gambling, I think I would still share the blessing with my family because it is certain that even if that is what your family did to you, you would think that they only did it to protect you.
You don't need to harbor anger or resentment towards your family just because of that.

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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

1. The family chose an exaggerated solution that cannot be beneficial in any case. Store owners are not required to take into account the privacy of each player because this is not their responsibility at all. I am sure that the family took this option as a desperate solution after all attempts to recover with their son, who seemed to be going through his worst state with gambling.
2. I consider this question very personal and there cannot be one right answer and one wrong answer. Every person has a nature of his behavior that differs from others, and if you want to answer the whereabouts of the young person whose family was seeking to help him, you must determine the nature of the family members and the relationship of each member of them with him.
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November 13, 2023, 02:45:15 PM
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She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles.
Actions that had reached beyond the limits of the young man began to receive a negative response from his family because his addiction level had reached a high level. The personal items he sells to cover his gambling activities have attracted the attention of his family, especially as his emotional level continues to rise when he has no money to gamble. There are many ways that families can do to reduce their brother's level of addiction, they can take him to work or do other activities to reduce the time for the young man to gamble.

So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.
His family had acted unreasonably if they discovered their brother was gambling and then took the owner of the gambling place to court on the grounds that he was supporting his brother to become a compulsive gambler. The reckless actions that the young man's family will take are very baseless.
Firstly, the owner of the gambling place did not specifically invite the young man to gamble at his place, secondly, the young man had his own desire to gamble. In this case there is no reason to sue the owner of the gambling place because the actions the young man took were of his own free will.

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November 13, 2023, 02:47:11 PM
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During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

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I know that's their way of helping their loved one that's been addicted in gambling, and I'm happy that they were trying and doing whatever they can to help him. However, for me it isn't really a form of help that is for the long-term. Eventually, the gambling addict will find his way to continue gambling and to sell things that he can so that he can sustain his lifestyle.

An addict will find his way eventually to continue betting and playing without them even noticing at first. They are very creative and very secretive, so it will be a hard one if their brother decides to move to other places. With this, they can't put any restrictions anymore. While it could help on the first few weeks to keep him off casino establishments, it won't last for long. Threatening the casinos for suing isn't really applicable and legal if I'm correct since a person who's an addict is still capable of thinking and should be given his human rights. And that includes deciding on his own. Unless he is a minor or a mentally unstable person, then guardianship can be applicable.

1. It's inappropriate, for me at least. This is because as a grown up man you can make your own decisions, including whether continue or stop gambling. If they really want to help, funding the rehabilitation and treatment might do more help than giving flyers and threatening casino establishments. Afterall, addiction should be cured from the roots, not just eliminating the external factors. Although it could help, it will only be temporary.

2. It will depend on the person if he will share his winnings or not. It's his right after all on what to do with the money. Other people cannot impose not control. Unless of course you are indebted to them since you have to pay your dues.
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November 13, 2023, 02:51:29 PM
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During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible  questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
If a gambler has gone to the point of selling his belongings to get money so he can bet, then that has gone extreme. Whatever measures the family is putting forward to caution him not to continue betting, is a welcome development, because his becoming a chronic gambler, that's not a healthy gambling Lifestyle.
Even if he wins million of dollars, it will still not amount to anything, because of his unhealthy gambling lifestyle.
A professional gambler will always check his addiction level, to create a balance and healthy gambling Lifestyle.
for his family to paste his photos on the gambling shops around his neighbourhood, shows that the way his going about it, it's not responsible anymore.

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The gambling establishment or site is for me not liable for any violations regarding the guy who's family is desperate in over protecting him. It is not the gambling establishments fault but the gambler itself specially if they were compliant to the local regulations and permits. That is really alarming since the member of the family that gamble sold his properties just for gambling purposes. Gambling addiction really has nothing to good to bear.



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