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November 13, 2023, 03:18:11 PM
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Honestly, if I were the family members of this young guy, I'd literally disown the guy right there and then, or perhaps if I'm feeling a little remorseful, throw him in a rehabilitation center so he can get himself checked and recover if still possible. Most addictions are brought about by the compulsion and the access to such compulsions anyway so if we literally have them locked up so they can't do what they want to, they're sure to recover. Now if things go south and it really came to the point that even rehabilitation is a lost cause, I won't go out of the way to embarass myself or my relatives and would actually just disown them, it's way easier than that, completely absolves me of every other crime that this person's going to commit as well, of course I'm going to have him be investigated by the police or something along those lines just to make sure he doesn't do anything stupid.

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November 13, 2023, 03:24:39 PM
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You cannot help a person who doesn't want to be helped. Absolutely nothing you can do. Even if you go for therapy, the therapist will tell you that. The best the family could have done was to put in in a situation where he would see that gambling addiction is damaging and can ruin his career. If I were the boy and my family treated me in that manner, they would probably not hear from me again for a long time to come. I would hate them for life.

The family is treating the person as if he can't make decisions for himself due to his severe gambling addiction. They're concerned because his gambling habits have escalated to the point where he resorts to stealing to sustain his addiction. While it's commendable that they care for their family member, taking matters into their own hands by visiting gambling shops and threatening legal action if their relative is allowed to gamble seems excessive. It's a personal issue within the family, and the primary goal of a gambling establishment is to facilitate bets and run a profitable business. As long as there are no regulatory directives instructing them otherwise, they have the freedom to accept bettors and pursue opportunities to increase their income.

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November 13, 2023, 03:24:50 PM
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I heard a similar story about loans. One guy took unsecured loans and his mother had to pay for him by giving him the last of her money. She ended up writing on his passport "no credit! He doesn't work anywhere!". I don't know how true these stories are, but they make you think.

I wouldn't call it extreme measures. I believe that if a gambler has crossed the line and his addiction is causing problems for the family, then any methods can be used to help him. Up to the harshest - for example, put him in jail or send him to a monastery for 1-2 years. I know that life in a monastery can change a person beyond recognition.

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November 13, 2023, 03:32:54 PM
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She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles.
Actions that had reached beyond the limits of the young man began to receive a negative response from his family because his addiction level had reached a high level. The personal items he sells to cover his gambling activities have attracted the attention of his family, especially as his emotional level continues to rise when he has no money to gamble. There are many ways that families can do to reduce their brother's level of addiction, they can take him to work or do other activities to reduce the time for the young man to gamble.

So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.
His family had acted unreasonably if they discovered their brother was gambling and then took the owner of the gambling place to court on the grounds that he was supporting his brother to become a compulsive gambler. The reckless actions that the young man's family will take are very baseless.
Firstly, the owner of the gambling place did not specifically invite the young man to gamble at his place, secondly, the young man had his own desire to gamble. In this case there is no reason to sue the owner of the gambling place because the actions the young man took were of his own free will.
just want to know if you have had any person that's a compulsive gambler. With a first hand experience you would have been careful with your words  in establishing that the family acted unreasonably. Having someone you care for as an addict whether to gambling, hard drugs etc, can be so frustrating that you will dive at any possible chance to restrain him from that which makes him an addict.

At that moment it's what works for you that will be counted reasonable and not what outsiders think to be reasonable for all what you're aimed at is a solution to end the cancerous addiction and I think that was what led to the family to swing into such act. If suing a gambling shop that still allows their brother to gamble in their shop will serve as deterrent to others and also ameliorate issues then for them (the family) it worth it.
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November 13, 2023, 03:36:04 PM
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So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Share your thoughts!

First things first, is it not possible to sue the owner for allowing an adult to gamble whether the person is having compulsive behavior or sold the properties of their family to get the money needed for betting.

It is individual responsibility and an extreme family can stop him considering the situation but what can actually happen is if a casino stops a person from gambling when he is legally allowed to play by-laws then the person can sue the casino to milk some money. So all I am hearing is *uck BS stories..!

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November 13, 2023, 03:37:05 PM
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Anyone would feel worried when one of their family members is addicted to gambling. The initial intention was good, namely to awaken the young man from his gambling addiction, but we need to know that this good intention must be carried out in a good way. Because if it is done in a bad or too extreme way as explained by the OP, it is unlikely that a gambling addict will be aware of the negative behavior he is carrying out and this will only make the situation worse and will destroy harmony in the family.

We also need to know that gambling addicts tend to have overwhelming and uncontrollable emotions, plus they are very irritable. So, when dealing with a gambling addict, we are required to be more patient in reminding and making him aware and this must be done gradually, because for someone to be truly aware of the negative activities and behavior they engage in in gambling, times takes quite a long.

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November 13, 2023, 03:37:10 PM
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Is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.
This is will be very difficult for him to do if we consider the fact that addicted gamblers are always broke most of the time, because they would have gambled away any money they had that should be in their hands as savings, Now, i do not mean every single gambling addict out there, but i do mean most poor or middle-class gamblers who are addicted to gambling are usually broke most of the time.

So, if the money the man has with him at that moment is only the money, he hopes to play gambling with, then it will be difficult for him to transport himself to another area entirely since he will need to source new funds for the transportation going and coming back home, except he as his own means of mobility.

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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
For me, they did not go any extreme, the fact that they did this is a show that they love their brother and wants his wellbeing, in some family, such a person will be allowed to gamble and waste away, so, for me, they are just doing the best they think they can do to help the man, they didn't do anything that is extreme.

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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?
There is no need keeping malice with my family as a result of this, they were just trying to help me, if i was or in the man's shoes, what i said is how i will understand it, I will still go back to them and appreciate them for all their efforts trying to get me out of gambling addiction, Afterall, addiction in gambling is not a good thing, or something to be proud of.

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November 13, 2023, 03:57:29 PM
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At first the young man should have it in mind that his family loves him and would go to any length or extent to making sure he is free from that addiction. No family would see such happening to their loved one and keep mute over it but I think the family took the wrong step in addressing the situation. Why printing his photograph and taking it right to the casinos around. It is not nice to have done such as far as he is over 18 and has the right to freedom of engagements. They took it too far and that alone can make someone abscond because they might feel threatened with that action alone but however it is not a bad idea for his family to intervene in his situation as that is what any individual who has such person in their family would do.

If it happens that he wins big time, I think nothing stops him from extending a hand of gratitude to his family because what they had done to him is just like a mother trying to protect her child from being vulnerable to attacks. So in that case, If I were to be the one in his position of winning, I will make sure I extend hand of kindness to my family.


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November 13, 2023, 04:09:15 PM
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The gambling establishment or site is for me not liable for any violations regarding the guy who's family is desperate in over protecting him. It is not the gambling establishments fault but the gambler itself specially if they were compliant to the local regulations and permits. That is really alarming since the member of the family that gamble sold his properties just for gambling purposes. Gambling addiction really has nothing to good to bear.

The problem is how the judge will look into this incase the family indeed sue them. The betting shop knew the fact of the early warning which is a bit dangerous as a business since you allowed compulsive gambler play while you know it already.

Yes betting shop really have no responsibility to their players if they are legal age but sometimes the court use different approaches on handling cases like this especially if the victim suffer huge losses in the process. But the family really need to lock their member instead of attacking the betting shop that is just doing business.

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November 13, 2023, 04:17:01 PM
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OP, I love what you shared, this thread is very good, I hope to see the views and comments of many of us here solving the problem of many of us in terms gambling, the action of this gamblers family might seem so strange and extreme to some people, but for me, I just understand their mindset was to help their brother whom the see, that's going astray in life, to me anything that can be done to help an individual that's an addict in gambling should be done with immediate effect as long as such step does not affect his life in any way.
If eventually the person in question goes extra mind by going to another location to gamble and fortune follow me, he should not forget that his family was trying to help, if they don't like him they won't threaten with such statement of sueing any person that goes contrary against their decision as a family, what his family did should not stop him from helping them if they need it.

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November 13, 2023, 04:39:58 PM
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At first the young man should have it in mind that his family loves him and would go to any length or extent to making sure he is free from that addiction. No family would see such happening to their loved one and keep mute over it but I think the family took the wrong step in addressing the situation. Why printing his photograph and taking it right to the casinos around. It is not nice to have done such as far as he is over 18 and has the right to freedom of engagements. They took it too far and that alone can make someone abscond because they might feel threatened with that action alone but however it is not a bad idea for his family to intervene in his situation as that is what any individual who has such person in their family would do.

If it happens that he wins big time, I think nothing stops him from extending a hand of gratitude to his family because what they had done to him is just like a mother trying to protect her child from being vulnerable to attacks. So in that case, If I were to be the one in his position of winning, I will make sure I extend hand of kindness to my family.


The family's love and care are clear, but what is their plan? Not sure about it at all. Even though the person who sent his picture to casinos meant well, it was against the law, especially since he is over 18. Even though the act is meant to protect him, it actually takes away his freedom. There are good goals tangled up with actions that aren't clear.

Online gambling is appealing because it is easy to get into and gives the impression of being simple to win. It is a digital trap that is both tempting and dangerous. If he gets a lot of money, he wants to keep gambling even more, not less. Things keep going in a bad circle. Even though his family's actions aren't perfect, they are a desperate attempt to break this loop.

If he gets a lot of money, thanking his family, even though they went too far, is a sign that he understands the mess of feelings and intentions that are going on. It means admitting that love can make people do things that are more safe than useful in the messy and often wrong world of relationships. This is life: it's complicated, messy, and human.

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November 13, 2023, 04:52:40 PM
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The gambling establishment or site is for me not liable for any violations regarding the guy who's family is desperate in over protecting him. It is not the gambling establishments fault but the gambler itself specially if they were compliant to the local regulations and permits. That is really alarming since the member of the family that gamble sold his properties just for gambling purposes. Gambling addiction really has nothing to good to bear.

The problem is how the judge will look into this incase the family indeed sue them. The betting shop knew the fact of the early warning which is a bit dangerous as a business since you allowed compulsive gambler play while you know it already.

Yes betting shop really have no responsibility to their players if they are legal age but sometimes the court use different approaches on handling cases like this especially if the victim suffer huge losses in the process. But the family really need to lock their member instead of attacking the betting shop that is just doing business.

This case is the reason of why many the betting shop / sites have limits for gamblers to put. in some countries, those limits are required for the shop to have legal status. this is one of many ways to avoid addiction for the gamblers, and to avoid unnecessary cases. There are also limits for losses experienced by a gamblers for a certain duration time.

Betting Shop / sites who dont put those limits are usually untrusted or even illegal shop / sites, because it can be considered as institution who are not responsible for things that potentially happen caused by their business.

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November 13, 2023, 04:57:58 PM
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As his sister took a strick step against his brother who is a gambler I think if he is a loyal person then he will not gamble again but a compulsive gambler never think about his family so I don't think that a gambler will leave the city just because of gambling in new area but first he will tortured his family and after doing all possible tries he will then leave that area but a compulsive gambler is a  distress for his family always.

A family always support his brothers and sons but if a gambler never think about his family then everyone wants to live a satisfied life and no one wants that his life become full of sorrows. I think everyone should focus earlier on their children because once a person starts gambling then whatever parents teach them they will never understand. If someone thinks that if he starts gambling then he will become rich then he has a wrong concept because gambling can turn your whole dreams into a life where you will just burrow money from others but will unable to continue your own happy life.

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November 13, 2023, 04:58:20 PM
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At first the young man should have it in mind that his family loves him and would go to any length or extent to making sure he is free from that addiction. No family would see such happening to their loved one and keep mute over it but I think the family took the wrong step in addressing the situation. Why printing his photograph and taking it right to the casinos around. It is not nice to have done such as far as he is over 18 and has the right to freedom of engagements. They took it too far and that alone can make someone abscond because they might feel threatened with that action alone but however it is not a bad idea for his family to intervene in his situation as that is what any individual who has such person in their family would do.

If it happens that he wins big time, I think nothing stops him from extending a hand of gratitude to his family because what they had done to him is just like a mother trying to protect her child from being vulnerable to attacks. So in that case, If I were to be the one in his position of winning, I will make sure I extend hand of kindness to my family.


The family's love and care are clear, but what is their plan? Not sure about it at all. Even though the person who sent his picture to casinos meant well, it was against the law, especially since he is over 18. Even though the act is meant to protect him, it actually takes away his freedom. There are good goals tangled up with actions that aren't clear.

Online gambling is appealing because it is easy to get into and gives the impression of being simple to win. It is a digital trap that is both tempting and dangerous. If he gets a lot of money, he wants to keep gambling even more, not less. Things keep going in a bad circle. Even though his family's actions aren't perfect, they are a desperate attempt to break this loop.

If he gets a lot of money, thanking his family, even though they went too far, is a sign that he understands the mess of feelings and intentions that are going on. It means admitting that love can make people do things that are more safe than useful in the messy and often wrong world of relationships. This is life: it's complicated, messy, and human.
Indeed family is love. No one cares much about you more than your family hence family is love. I understand the situation from both sides and they are very much correct in their own actions. In as much as the young man is 18 and above,he has the right to freedom and engagements which is not against the law but that singular action alone could even make it worse by him going solo which would be very dangerous this time because they might think he has stopped it by it would be worse than it was. Sometimes it is not the plans but the approach used in tackling the situation that matters.

Of a truth I know and believe he would say a big thank you to his family if it happens he wins big because I believe he is matured enough to know that his family meant well for him.by taking such steps to curtail his gambling life.

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November 13, 2023, 05:10:30 PM
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If I were that young man, I would not move to another city to gamble because it would definitely cost more money during the trip and it might also be dangerous if we could win a lot of money. It's better for me to start reducing my gambling activities than to see my photo plastered in every casino, which will definitely make me embarrassed.

But the young man's family went to extremes if they really wanted to spread the young man's photo to every casino in their city to ensure that each casino did not receive visits from the young man and would not allow him to enter their casino. It seemed that the method was completely different from the previous methods, so perhaps it could work to prevent the young man from going to the casino and gambling.

And if I could win the million dollar prize, I would definitely share the money with my loved ones and celebrate with them.

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November 13, 2023, 05:16:01 PM
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She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

They don't have that right to sue the gambling shops, the guy in particular is above 18 and in law, as long as you are above 18 years old, you have a free will to take a decision and nobody will question you for that action if it's not a stolen money he use but even in the case where he used a stolen funds, he is the one they can sue for such action but if the brother is minor, it's very wrong for the shops to let him play in the first place.

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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

That is not the best way to abstain a grown up man for addiction, it will be very wrong for the community to even see his pictures everywhere like an ex convict, you will not be happy if you see your family disgracing you in that manner because you love gambling so much. They should have take him to see a therapist instead.

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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!


Well, it depends but I know for sure that people don't reject money. Family is blood and blood is family, no matter how they wrong me, I will still help them because I can't see them in bad condition while I enjoy money in one location, sure I will be happy to help if I can do it.

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November 13, 2023, 05:18:26 PM
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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
From my own point of view the family did the right thing just to prevent a situation whereby when the gambler ended up bankruptcy he is going to fall back to his family, of course he might ended up frustrated after being bankrupted such that he might not be in his usual self again "prevention is better than cure" it's better to curb his addiction earlier to avoid touching stories.
If I eventually win big in gambling sharing out of the money won to loves ones is necessary despite their opposition to my gambling activities afterall the action they initial took is to prevent me from getting addicted based on the consequences of being a gambling addict.

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November 13, 2023, 06:43:10 PM
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This an interesting story. Gambling addiction can only stopped by the bearer of the armor and no any other person be a lover or a family member. Someone also created a thread that if a gambler can stop if his wife ask him to stop and if he will not stop gambling she will leave him. As for me all those things are just a threat to an addicted gambler. Those things will never move him. But if he wants to stop, he will stop without someone's influence. Stopping gambling addiction is a drastic decision that a gambler must take. As for me they should not force him to stop because it will worsening the situation. But they can use a polite way for him to stop it. If they print his photograph and pasted it around the betting, will they do the same to all the casinos online? They are just wasting their time. They should allow him to gamble and only advice him to stop.

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November 13, 2023, 07:27:39 PM
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At first the young man should have it in mind that his family loves him and would go to any length or extent to making sure he is free from that addiction. No family would see such happening to their loved one and keep mute over it but I think the family took the wrong step in addressing the situation. Why printing his photograph and taking it right to the casinos around. It is not nice to have done such as far as he is over 18 and has the right to freedom of engagements. They took it too far and that alone can make someone abscond because they might feel threatened with that action alone but however it is not a bad idea for his family to intervene in his situation as that is what any individual who has such person in their family would do.

If it happens that he wins big time, I think nothing stops him from extending a hand of gratitude to his family because what they had done to him is just like a mother trying to protect her child from being vulnerable to attacks. So in that case, If I were to be the one in his position of winning, I will make sure I extend hand of kindness to my family.


The family's love and care are clear, but what is their plan? Not sure about it at all. Even though the person who sent his picture to casinos meant well, it was against the law, especially since he is over 18. Even though the act is meant to protect him, it actually takes away his freedom. There are good goals tangled up with actions that aren't clear.

Online gambling is appealing because it is easy to get into and gives the impression of being simple to win. It is a digital trap that is both tempting and dangerous. If he gets a lot of money, he wants to keep gambling even more, not less. Things keep going in a bad circle. Even though his family's actions aren't perfect, they are a desperate attempt to break this loop.

If he gets a lot of money, thanking his family, even though they went too far, is a sign that he understands the mess of feelings and intentions that are going on. It means admitting that love can make people do things that are more safe than useful in the messy and often wrong world of relationships. This is life: it's complicated, messy, and human.
Exaggerating kind of action i should say but its not shocking considering that family could really go into such extent if they are really that serious on trying to stop one of the members to get away with such gambling addiction. I dont know about legal actions or whatsoever in connection with it but if this one is really that something that will really be against freedom then they might be having a problem on that but as long
the other party or individual dont make out some complaints then i dont see for possible legal approaches into this one.It is really just that the actions been made is really just that too much on which coming
into a point thatthey would be needing to print up a family members face and trying out to scatter and say things accordingly.

Its true that it is really that indeed possible that he could go out into that other place and do make some gambling thing if he wanted to but he choses up to stay and do deal up with the current situation.
The family arent aware that if he cant do it physically then there's always a way that he could be able to gamble online on which it is really that more hard to be stopped.

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November 13, 2023, 07:55:02 PM
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The gambling establishment or site is for me not liable for any violations regarding the guy who's family is desperate in over protecting him. It is not the gambling establishments fault but the gambler itself specially if they were compliant to the local regulations and permits. That is really alarming since the member of the family that gamble sold his properties just for gambling purposes. Gambling addiction really has nothing to good to bear.

I agree. It's such a big deal because he's a gambler, but what if he was an alcoholic? Would every store be liable if he manages to buy alcohol there? Of course not!
It's not their job to look for him and stop him from entering. It's the family's job to go to court and limit his freedom by placing him in an institution, as they do with drug addicts, alcoholics, mentally ill people.
The problem here does not lie in gambling, but his mental state. The man is obviously mentally ill and needs to be healed, even if it's against his will, because otherwise he'll eventually be forced to steal and that will land him in jail at the expense of the taxpayer.

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