Vod vs OgNasty - document affidavit phase

[LoyceV]

I always felt that the forum is run professionally.

I noticed OgNasty and Vod both dislike theymos, and both for different reasons.

[NotATether]

I always felt that the forum is run professionally.

I noticed OgNasty and Vod both dislike theymos, and both for different reasons.

And also that theymos doesn't care about any of that, which is good.

If this was another forum (like you know what), probably anybody who disagrees with the admin would get banned. So we should be thankful that the "free speech" guarantee of Bitcointalk also covers arguments and disagreements, for better or for worse.

[LoyceMobile]

call LoyceV a liar for what he’s said about me stealing BTC from the treasury.

Stop making thing up about me. If you can't find a link to prove it, it's safe to assume it only happened in your head.

[Vod]

call LoyceV a liar for what he’s said about me stealing BTC from the treasury.

Stop making thing up about me. If you can't find a link to prove it, it's safe to assume it only happened in your head.

Why don't you two just exchange negative trust and get it over with?   

[nutildah]

I noticed OgNasty and Vod both dislike theymos, and both for different reasons.

And also that theymos doesn't care about any of that, which is good.

I think the fact that both of them aren't happy with theymos means he is doing a good job. It's an impossible balancing act, being able to satisfy the egos of two conflicting, demanding personalities.

“A good compromise is when both parties are dissatisfied.” - Larry David

[Vod]

He set me up with making me an original DT member, asking me to keep the default trust network honest and then empowering the evil I was keeping out of DT, unleashing an army of trolls my way… This while going more than a year without paying me and then calling me tacky for doing my fiduciary duty. So I guess I have my reasons for the disrespect. The mentally ill guy is mad at theymos for what?

I'm guessing this is the work you said Theymos was paying you for?   I wonder if he paid a known thief out of his personal funds or the forum ones?   So much for the IRS to investigate!

I am done with my investigation on this forum, and will not comment further unless they try another scam; it's out of my hands soon.   I will be locking this thread and posting one more message about why I distrust Theymos.   Then I am back to developing projects for bitcoin.  

So you're now admitting I didn't steal 7 BTC and you include people in your trust network that make this claim in negative trust ratings that they attribute to you?  

You are dense.  Loyce wrote no such thing.  

[Vod]

I don’t dislike theymos... I just know theymos is not a man of his word and I don’t really respect that.

Remind anyone of how Donald Trump turned on Rudy G after all his help?    See my sig if you are confused; OG is confused a lot recently

[DireWolfM14]

He hasn’t stood up to call LoyceV a liar for what he’s said about me stealing BTC from the treasury.

Source, or it didn't happen.  Here's a hint for those new to this drama; it didn't happen.

He didn’t live up to his threat to blackball the mentally ill guy from DT for his trust abuse.

You're encouraging him to blackmail someone who had recently suffered a stroke?  You must realize that's not exactly a moral high-horse you're riding there.

He set me up with making me an original DT member, asking me to keep the default trust network honest and then empowering the evil I was keeping out of DT, unleashing an army of trolls my way… This while going more than a year without paying me and then calling me tacky for doing my fiduciary duty. So I guess I have my reasons for the disrespect. The mentally ill guy is mad at theymos for what?

I think you're actions were to blame for the unleashing.  A little accountability goes a long way to ensure the integrity of one's character.  Despite your charisma, your business acumen, and your (self inflated) trust rating, I would never have any business dealings with you.  You've demonstrated your lack of integrity many times over.

This all stems from you using the forum's cold storage address to sign a message for some shitcoin airdrop.  You didn't do it as part of your "fiduciary duty," you did it to enrich yourself.  In fact, it was a dereliction of your fiduciary duty to pull the private key out of cold storage for your own personal gain.  This is what theymos referred to when he called you "tacky."  In my opinion it's a drastic understatement.

But what's worse; your inability (or unwillingness) to acknowledge your actions were wrong, and then continuously lying to subvert the discussion.

I know you're unlikely to respond to my post, because you have never yet responded to this very same, rational argument that I've made sevral times.

[LoyceV]

He hasn’t stood up to call LoyceV a liar for what he’s said about me stealing BTC from the treasury.

Source, or it didn't happen.  Here's a hint for those new to this drama; it didn't happen.

I'm starting to think I misread this in February. I thought OgNasty was accusing theymos of not calling me (LoyceV) a liar for accusing him (OgNasty) of stealing BTC from the treasury, but on second thought, it looks like he's admitting to stealing BTC from the treasury.

So, to analyse this post:

He hasn’t stood up to call LoyceV a liar

Correct. Theymos didn't stand up to call me a liar. There's no reason to call me a liar for posting facts, but that's not even debated. It's irrelevant, but factually correct.

for what he’s said

Correct. I pointed out some facts backed by a signed message and blockchain evidence. There's no reason to call me a liar for posting facts.

about me stealing BTC from the treasury.

Those are OgNasty's words, not mine. If this is how he feels, that's on him.

[DireWolfM14]

it looks like he's admitting to stealing BTC from the treasury.

Lol, maybe he should just plead the 5th, and keep his mouth shut.  His ability to provide accuracy in his sentences is a bit suspicious. 

[Vod]

He hasn’t stood up to call LoyceV a liar

Correct. Theymos didn't stand up to call me a liar. There's no reason to call me a liar for posting facts, but that's not even debated. It's irrelevant, but factually correct.

Theymos also never stood up to deny OGs claims I was a liar or scammer.   It's almost as if he runs on a "What OG said, happened" policy.   Normally no big deal but the IRS wants their share of the bitcoin you are injecting into their community.  :/

[Sandra_hakeem]

Theymos also never stood up to deny OGs claims I was a liar or scammer.   It's almost as if he runs on a "What OG said, happened" policy.   Normally no big deal but the IRS wants their share of the bitcoin you are injecting into their community.  :/

well then, I understand what your major point of concern is. I've also realized you're almost done with the compilation of an advanced site that'll possibly bear claims from anyone else that wants to attest to whether or not your allegations are true..


Vod, no shades on this but I'd like to ask;
^[1]Are you genuinely seeking for due justice on the perpetrators ?
^[2] Why do you think Theymos would (according to your claims) try to cover up Nasty's ass after such a huge embezzlement?
^[3]According to loyce' new discovery, OG doesn't even like Theymos so, how's the claims on ^[2] even possible?
I've been following up this case comprehensively like I always say and, I know that this is just the beginning. "There's nothing hidden under the sun"

I noticed OgNasty and Vod both dislike theymos, and both for different reasons.

Edit:

No court would listen to this “case” because it is a clear case of a mentally ill person fabricating things in their head.

Could you atleast make a more valid point to vindicate yourself as this is still an allegation rather than stalking him? Vod isn't just throwing unnecessary tantrums and we all know he's not mentally derailed as you may have it.

[Vod]

Theymos also never stood up to deny OGs claims I was a liar or scammer.   It's almost as if he runs on a "What OG said, happened" policy.   Normally no big deal but the IRS wants their share of the bitcoin you are injecting into their community.  :/

well then, I understand what your major point of concern is. I've also realized you're almost done with the compilation of an advanced site that'll possibly bear claims from anyone else that wants to attest to whether or not your allegations are true.

Anyone who has lost/donated any money can join the class action; personally I lost 2 BTC.  There is nothing I have to prove - OG gave it all to me in writing.

Even though I started this thread (OG turns on Theymos), you give credit to Loyce for discovering it?    

(Edit:  Not pursuing class action.   Recently admitting "You can’t hide the truth forever." makes it redundant at this time)

[Vod]

Lol, maybe he should just plead the 5th, and keep his mouth shut.  His ability to provide accuracy in his sentences is a bit suspicious. 

There are so many contradictions on file, right now it's in a quantum state.  Only once he's forced to decide on what happened under oath can we ask further questions.

Updating this old post due to current relevance, and to highlight the fact Theymos no longer trusts OgNasty.  I know Og will certainly miss bragging about that, but we all knew "fiscal responsibility" doesn't include taking untraced equipment home and using it until caught.   OgNasty stole 7 BTC from Theymos recently and is uncharged.   
https://loyce.club/trust/2025-05-10_Sat_05.18h/35.html

No court would listen to this “case” because it is a clear case of a mentally ill person fabricating things in their head.

Even with an impossibly perfect mind, fabrication is inevitable based on your conflicting versions of the events.  You have to make a choice on what you did, and I've waited too long for you to do that willingly.

(Not stirring drama - just bumping for relevance.  OgNasty pretends to ignore me)

[Vod]

If anything, I was shorted on the treasurer deal.  theymos owed me a double digit amount of BTC when the BCH fork happened and while I gave him the forks for the coins I was holding on behalf of the forum, he did not give me the forks from the BTC I was owed...  Instead he just called me tacky and then fired me.

This is a new claim that you took the 7BTC in forked coins because Theymos owed you double digits.  Which one is correct?   

[philipma1957]

vod if og robbed theymos why does theymos let him stay on the website?

also why doesn’t theymos say in this thread og stole coins.

finally when all of these coins vanished what date was it?


hey I always complain mr v cost me 2 eth and he did.

but when it was lost due to his actions to rollback the eth chain it was under a few hundred dollars.

so if og is guilty what was the value of the coins.

you know as well as i do in the early days coins were used as cash and hodl was not as big a deal.

plus coins were cheap.

i gave away 7 to 10 btc on the difficulty contests in 2013 to 2015

[Vod]

vod if og robbed theymos why does theymos let him stay on the website?

I think even if I did rob theymos (spoiler alert: I didn't)

No, you didn't rob Theymos.    https://www.google.com/search?q=definition+of+robbery

You have already admitted to taking coins that were not yours until the community found out.   That is embezzlement (a financial term), not robbery.  

What the pretend detectives on this site should really be worried about if they want any credibility whatsoever, is what happened to the thousands of BTC that myself and others donated to this forum that were allegedly wasted developing vaporware.

We are discussing that in another thread, even without the promise of OgNasty credibility.  

[Vod]

What happened? People were making hundreds of posts full of lies about me and claiming I stole something I didn’t. I unleash the truth that in fact it was me that had forked coins stolen from me, not the other way around. Then silence… No apologies. Nobody asking theymos to confirm it is true. The facts don’t fit the narrative so they just move on to the next lie…

You previously stated you took the coins secretly, and then kept the ones you wanted in retaliation for Theymos keeping bitcoin he owes you.   You call it a robbery and/or theft when you know that the term for someone in your position is called embezzlement.

But you still trust Theymos lol.  If you could settle on your version of the facts we can calculate how much you embezelled, compare it to how much Theymos spent and rank it for you.  Also you should decide if you really ignore my messages.  

Nobody asking theymos to confirm it is true. The facts don’t fit the narrative so they just move on to the next lie…

Just like you claimed for years Theymos had a PM where I outed myself as a pervert.  

Edited for spelling

[Quickseller]

I think it is probably best if OgN and Vod were to both leave each other alone. (this only works if both actually do this).

Both OgN and Vod very clearly dislike each other, and both accuse the other of being untrustworthy. I don't think either are actually convincing anyone of anything, which is the whole point of warning about potential scammers.

I also don't think many people enjoy seeing all this drama.

I can't imagine this drama being good for either of your mental health. There is plenty other things that the both of you can talk about here..

[Quickseller]

I get it, Vod thinks OgN is a scammer, and OgN denies this. OgN thinks that Vod is a bad guy, and Vod implicitly denies this.

Now that we know each person's position, I really think you both should leave each other alone. There are plenty of other things to talk about around here. I know that others in the community feel the same way.

Theymos is an advocate for free speech. He is not going to censor posts based on something benig untrue.