Boycotting iSrAEl's product? think again.

[taufik123]

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My personal position is that I will never support anyone who kills civilians in such a reckless and barbaric way, whether it is Hamas, Israel or Russia - a crime is a crime and there is no need to look for justifications for why someone did it.

But I still can't get over the people who support Zionists and say that those who are holding out in Gaza and Palestine are just animals, just rats.
And those who are pro-Israel are just playing victim endlessly as if they are suffering.
Whereas their savage soldiers kill children, women, doctors, and journalists and even bomb hospitals and schools.
These are clearly unforgivable war crimes.

No matter what kind of boycott is done there in Israel, I don't think it will work. It is a country chosen by God; for a long time, there has been fighting against Israel; even in the war, they cooperated with it, but they could not subjugate it. That is surprising.

That's why it's a boycott, and it's also not a good thing to do, and I'm sure that boycotting is going nowhere. This is all I can say about that. Then it is still another decision of the users of those products that will be followed, of course.

Are you sure about your statement?
Boycotts are not a good thing and don't work or have any effect?

Look at it now, the whole world is doing this boycott and you say it doesn't work.
Don't just look at it from a narrow perspective, you have to open your eyes widely to what the effect of the boycott really is.

Look at the impact of the boycott on stocks that support Israel, it's a highlight in my country and around the world.
Pro-Israel products have seen a drop in sales, the place is deserted and this is the effect of the boycott.

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[DrBeer]

Boycott is one of our supports for Palestine. Israel's attacks on Gaza have shown no signs of abating. This has encouraged the emergence of various social movements in various parts of the world as a form of sympathy for the victims. One form of solidarity action is in the form of boycotting or not buying products from companies suspected of being affiliated with Israel. A number of goods and services deemed to support the Israeli camp were targeted for boycotts. The boycott is not forever but can be stopped if Israel has implemented a ceasefire in Gaza.

Israel attacked Gaza ?! Are you serious? 
Here is some FACT: "On October 7, 2023, the holiday of Simchat Torah, when Palestinian terrorist groups, of which Hamas is the largest, launched a large-scale invasion of Israel from the Gaza Strip, breaking the barrier between the Gaza Strip and Israel and infiltrating into nearby Israeli population centers and military installations. The invasion began in the early morning hours of October 7 with the launching of between 2,500 and 5,000 rockets into Israel from the Gaza Strip and the infiltration of more than 2,500 militants by land, sea and air into Israeli territory, including border kibbutzim and the city of Sderot. At least 1,400 Israelis were killed (including hundreds of music festival attendees). Civilians and soldiers were taken hostage, Israeli civilians were massacred, and there were incidents of sexual violence against Israeli women."

Your post assumes only 2 rationales: you are now here to put on a cheap Hamas propaganda show. Or were you born after October 7, 2023 ?  Question - which one did I guess ?

[Cryptomultiplier]

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My personal position is that I will never support anyone who kills civilians in such a reckless and barbaric way, whether it is Hamas, Israel or Russia - a crime is a crime and there is no need to look for justifications for why someone did it.

But I still can't get over the people who support Zionists and say that those who are holding out in Gaza and Palestine are just animals, just rats.
And those who are pro-Israel are just playing victim endlessly as if they are suffering.
Whereas their savage soldiers kill children, women, doctors, and journalists and even bomb hospitals and schools.
These are clearly unforgivable war crimes.

No matter what kind of boycott is done there in Israel, I don't think it will work. It is a country chosen by God; for a long time, there has been fighting against Israel; even in the war, they cooperated with it, but they could not subjugate it. That is surprising.

That's why it's a boycott, and it's also not a good thing to do, and I'm sure that boycotting is going nowhere. This is all I can say about that. Then it is still another decision of the users of those products that will be followed, of course.

Are you sure about your statement?
Boycotts are not a good thing and don't work or have any effect?

Look at it now, the whole world is doing this boycott and you say it doesn't work.
Don't just look at it from a narrow perspective, you have to open your eyes widely to what the effect of the boycott really is.

Look at the impact of the boycott on stocks that support Israel, it's a highlight in my country and around the world.
Pro-Israel products have seen a drop in sales, the place is deserted and this is the effect of the boycott.

I don't know how serious the boycott is, but I can assume that it may be due to the fact that the owners or franchise owners of these brands in the country of Israel have been  bigger Zionist franchise investors.

From what I have come to understand despite the war crimes accusations and evidence of inhumane reaction to war provocations and claims, this Israel issue should be looked at from the perspective that it is supposed to provoke a third world war, that is if more countries get involved to start by rejection of their franchise goods or exports and imported goods and services too.

[Twentyonepaylots]

No matter what kind of boycott is done there in Israel, I don't think it will work. It is a country chosen by God; for a long time, there has been fighting against Israel; even in the war, they cooperated with it, but they could not subjugate it. That is surprising.

Seems like you're coming sentimental from there. There's no point in arguing that Israel is chosen by God, how do you even say that? A country that has been at war for decades? A country whose citizens are dying a thousand times? A country who can go on with their people suffering for their war? how do you even thought about Israel being a country chosen by God?

Boycotting impacts may be seen as early as now but they would definitely feel it once it sink in on their economy. Maybe not now, but not forever.

That's why it's a boycott, and it's also not a good thing to do, and I'm sure that boycotting is going nowhere. This is all I can say about that. Then it is still another decision of the users of those products that will be followed, of course.

It's part of a protest against Israel, it's not a right thing to do I will agree on that, but that's how people voice out.

[target]

It is to provoke WW3. They do have the option to make Israel stop but they are even sending more ammo to Netanyahu. But you have to look at it like Iran is about to have nukes. Netanyahu has no option but to start doing this genocide and war to make more war and hit Iran because once Iran has enough warheads, Israel will also be wiped out. It's now or never for Israel.  

You as a homeowner in a village would rather have a good relationship with neighbors but Israel seems to have no good relationship with all his neighbors.

[dothebeats]

Boycotting won't do shit if nations are still funding Israel in order to continue what their doing. No matter how many products of Israel gets low sales and low volumes, they still have their own defense companies that continue to supply armaments, ammos, and whatnot to other countries. The world is just continuing to 'condemn' what is happening in the Gaza Strip, but no one is ballsy enough to actually start something to stop what's happening on that side of the globe.

[TakeItEasy]

but I take McDonald as the example, they boycotting McDonald because McDonald's franchise in Israel is supporting Israel.

As when the McDonald was with them then people raise voice against the McDonald even but later they printed some board and put it near their offices or restaurant in our country where it was written that they are not with Israel then again people start to use McDonald Restaurants etc. As this is common thing in the people when they are seeing some disaster and a type of war they just go for the right country.

Same in the case that a war has been started between the Israel and Palestine and we see that both of the countries are in troubles while I think Palestine are in more trouble due to the attack by Israel. So, they should make the thinks clear.

[Rasa nanas]

I hate talking about this because I am a Muslim and I live in a Muslim majority country. There are many of these products on the market today and those who sell them are my Muslim brothers, and apart from that the company also employs many of my Muslim brothers. I'm confused, if I boycott there will be a lot of traders losing because the products or goods they sell won't sell and of course there will be large-scale termination of work contracts.

[romero121]

Boycotting won't do shit if nations are still funding Israel in order to continue what their doing. No matter how many products of Israel gets low sales and low volumes, they still have their own defense companies that continue to supply armaments, ammos, and whatnot to other countries. The world is just continuing to 'condemn' what is happening in the Gaza Strip, but no one is ballsy enough to actually start something to stop what's happening on that side of the globe.

Agreed, boycotting is for the self satisfaction of the Palastine Supporters. Just on boycotting things doesn't change as the funding is taking place through different channels. It is really bad that no countries have intervened into the problem and trying to get into a conclusion. It is very clear, how bad the people are getting affected out of the war. What is even more painful is the small kids losing their lives and getting affected. What they know, they're just at their playful days and what is happening around is really painful.

[boyptc]

This is politics on the next level, what people don't realize is the one to be condemned and boycotted who actually started this war.

We're all for anyone that's pro-peace but this is a complex status for both parties. Anyway, if you guys are happy in boycotting products or whatsoever, do it.

But it's not going to change any situation of the war that we're seeing with Israel and Palestine.

[diminizio]

I think they are too obsessed with "Free Palestine" I don't mind, everyone definitely likes peace and really doesn't like war even for me. but from the word boycott of Israeli products, this is not entirely going well, they make some of the basic ingredients used every day harm, and I feel more sorry for the employees who work at that company, not all of them are Israeli, they are all over the world to earn money for their living. if this company closes. what about the fate of the employee?

[Xampeuu]

Boycotting won't do shit if nations are still funding Israel in order to continue what their doing. No matter how many products of Israel gets low sales and low volumes, they still have their own defense companies that continue to supply armaments, ammos, and whatnot to other countries. The world is just continuing to 'condemn' what is happening in the Gaza Strip, but no one is ballsy enough to actually start something to stop what's happening on that side of the globe.

Agreed, boycotting is for the self satisfaction of the Palastine Supporters. Just on boycotting things doesn't change as the funding is taking place through different channels. It is really bad that no countries have intervened into the problem and trying to get into a conclusion. It is very clear, how bad the people are getting affected out of the war. What is even more painful is the small kids losing their lives and getting affected. What they know, they're just at their playful days and what is happening around is really painful.

The nature of the boycott is just an aspiration, but to cut off funding lines may not be significant, especially since there are so many goods that we need every day, but whatever the basic motive behind it, I myself condemn war, children and women are victims, of course it will be a sad story. continues to sound. However, someone must be able to start taking steps to stop it, especially since this is more complicated because many powerful countries support it. Hopefully the war will end soon and people can rebuild their lives

[kojektea]

I think if on a small scale this boycott is less effective. Unfortunately they didn't think long and hard. I am happier with the help coming to civilians in the war than this way of boycotting. If Israel is in the wrong, why is it that with a boycott like this, shops selling basic necessities are also empty even though they are not directly involved in the war and they are also civilians.

[pinggoki]

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Why do people have to take sides? Taking sides is what has fueled this war this long. Why do you think both sides always play the victim card? Because they want the public to think they're the one being attacked. Israel has successfully gotten the support of the public and that is why it can do whatever it's doing. Palestine has the support of the people which is why they can attack Israel. These are two people killing innocents, one is only doing it more than the other. So for that reason, we should support the one that has killed less? They're both terrorist groups to me and we can't pick the lesser evil to support.
If the whole world was against what both Israel and Palestine were doing to each other, I believe there would have been other ways to settle their differences.

So you're going to be just fine being neutral in all that is currently happening right now, while Israel is bombing hospitals that are full of children? What kind of bullshit logic is that? Supporting the one that has killed less? Did you think through what you're going to say regarding this issue because that's the most retarded logic that I have seen before, I don't think that it's even a utilitarian logic. You're saying that they're both terrorist group is because you are too stupid to check on the facts and too indifferent to care so you always try and make the safest play. You shouldn't be saying that you believe there are other ways to settle their differences because you sound hypocritical when you pair it with your previous statements. To answer your question on why to take sides, it's because there's still humanity out there that cares about this war ending unlike you who clearly doesn't have one.

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The thing about boycotting is that it never really works.

Yeah it won't work unless a lot of people are going to do it, the point of boycotting is that you condemn the actions of that company by having a lot of people attack their product and damaging their stocks. Now if there's not a lot of people that are doing that then the boycotts will never work.

[pooya87]

It's all about the profit that these "franchises" pour into the pockets of the terrorist organization, Israel.
By boycotting said products people around the world are decreasing the amount of profit these companies make and consequently they decrease the amount of money the terrorist organization makes.
Not to mention that a lot of these companies in the list and a lot of others like Walt Disney! have been funding the organization to help them commit more crimes against humanity. So they have to see at least some consequence for supporting terrorism and genocide, even if it is a small revenue loss (although it may not be that small).

Let me emphasize something @Faisal2202 said but went unnoticed. Boycotting a lot of these products will help local economy. Many of these products aren't anything special that can not or is not produced locally. For example McDonald's isn't selling something high tech or special! It is burgers and fries. Something anyone else can do too, and in a much better quality. The revenue that these foreign companies lose goes to all the local ones. For example when people stop buying the low quality McDonald's burgers, they start going to other fast food restaurants and help those small businesses.

[Yogee]

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Let me emphasize something @Faisal2202 said but went unnoticed. Boycotting a lot of these products will help local economy. Many of these products aren't anything special that can not or is not produced locally. For example McDonald's isn't selling something high tech or special! It is burgers and fries. Something anyone else can do too, and in a much better quality. The revenue that these foreign companies lose goes to all the local ones. For example when people stop buying the low quality McDonald's burgers, they start going to other fast food restaurants and help those small businesses.

Definitely! I said it before that people will still spend - be it on a direct competitor or something else so the money will still flow. The only concern I have on this is that the local employees of these boycotted companies will also be affected negatively. If they cannot be absorbed by other companies then the local economy will probably take a hit too.

[pooya87]

Definitely! I said it before that people will still spend - be it on a direct competitor or something else so the money will still flow. The only concern I have on this is that the local employees of these boycotted companies will also be affected negatively. If they cannot be absorbed by other companies then the local economy will probably take a hit too.

Any kind of transition is always hard but it is inevitable. The effects are in short term though. We've already seen such a transition in Russia when some businesses left (like McDonalds which was a $1.4 billion loss), the employees that lost their jobs in short term got absorbed into other jobs eventually and that ended up helping the domestic economy in the longer run (that is $1.4 billion that no longer exits the country to go into the pockets of a foreigner).

[Despairo]

First, it doesn't help their case. Second, if they're truly serious, they might end up not using their computers and their smart phones.

Correct, I don't see anyone boycotting Apple lol.

Let me emphasize something @Faisal2202 said but went unnoticed. Boycotting a lot of these products will help local economy. Many of these products aren't anything special that can not or is not produced locally. For example McDonald's isn't selling something high tech or special! It is burgers and fries. Something anyone else can do too, and in a much better quality. The revenue that these foreign companies lose goes to all the local ones. For example when people stop buying the low quality McDonald's burgers, they start going to other fast food restaurants and help those small businesses.

It's not easy as you as said.

Not every people want to spend more money for a same thing, more importantly not every country can survive with their own resources, many country still depend on import as they can get cheaper price or they completely don't have that due to many reasons e.g. bad weather, limited resource, lack of human resource etc.

Shifting from big business which can sell cheap stuff to local business which charge higher will make people become poor, I'm sure the criminal rate will increase as not every citizen agree to work hard to rebuilt their economy back.

I'd say only both China and Russia can live without depends on import, while the rest they don't have any choice.

[Velemir Sava]

I also support Palestine. Israel's aggression must be stopped immediately because the victims are children and women. Now. Apart from the boycott, boycotting it was beyond my expectations because the impact was very small.

The biggest thing is that the UN tells Israel to immediately stop its aggression and asks Israel's main supporting countries to refrain from sending support facilities.

I know this problem is also very complex and not as easy as turning your hand.

[naira]

I'm not an economist, but if the Boycott doesn't have any impact then why does an organization as big as the OIC, which consists of people who know more than us, voice their support? means there is a purpose and an impact produced. Like it or not, boycotts are a form of condemnation of how unjustified the killing of children, women and babies is. Doesn't war also have rules? If the murder of children, women and babies is carried out, it is clearly a war crime committed by Israel. When you are unable to provide assistance with energy, thoughts and wealth, then by boycotting anyone can do it. At least no matter how small the form of support we provide, it will be calculated.
Boycott is a peaceful and effective way without the need to shed blood. In my opinion, boycotting is everyone's right, whether you want to or not is up to you.
Is our boycott mandatory? certainly not
Did the Boycott bankrupt them? Of course not, but at least it makes them panic because of decreasing sales levels.
So what is the fate of the people who work at the company? return to local brands and help increase the country's economic income. I don't judge those who don't boycott because everyone's abilities are different. I agree that boycotts never solve problems, it's just that as someone who believes that partisanship will later be a witness that we will not remain silent when we see open murder happening before our eyes.

In conclusion, if you want to boycott, go ahead, if not, there is no need to convince those who are boycotting because they each have their own way of showing empathy as humans.