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December 10, 2023, 11:19:07 AM
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In fact, advice and suggestions to avoid the harmful effects of gambling and gambling addiction are everywhere, also with the current boom in online gambling that is everywhere, of course, this makes it likely that many people already know gambling, so among them all there must be addicted and there are also those who have a gambling limit. And considering that gambling can destroy a person's life, I myself often advise my friends who can spend a lot of money gambling in just one night, whose name is already addicted, it must be difficult to accept advice from others, because I feel that how difficult it is to realize my friends who spend a lot of money in one night just gambling.

Indeed, it is his own right but I as his friend will not let him continue like this, because his brain that has been washed by gambling makes them blind to the losses they experience. I will also try to make my friend aware of this gambling addiction, because after all he shouldn't spend a lot of money gambling because it's not a good thing for him. or should I allow my friend to continue spending his money until he realizes it himself?
There is a thin line between intervening and respecting someone's autonomy, even while you care about them. Remember that gambling psychology is nuanced. It's not just a random game either - it stimulates the brain's reward system and releases dopamine,. It mimics a trance where the excitement of a potential victory obscures the possibility of failure. Have you tried talking to your friend about this and showing them the data and stories of other people who have taken similar steps? Hearing about other people's experiences might occasionally serve as a mirror, reflecting one's own circumstances

And then there's the whole boundary-setting thing. I understand that it's difficult, but sometimes rough love is necessary. Have you thought about recommending any different activities? Perhaps something exhilarating but less dangerous? Have any of you ever played a game night where the only thing up for grabs is bragging rights? It strikes a careful mix between assistance and restraint. Recall that you can't make someone change; they have to voluntarily want to. However, as a friend, your encouragement can be just the push they need to adopt a new perspective. Continue the conversation; occasionally, these brief exchanges are what spark major transformations

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December 10, 2023, 11:38:16 AM
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If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.

The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.

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successful gamblers are gamblers who know their limits and when they should stop. most gamblers only know how to hone their skills and how to win the game, but they don't learn how to stop themselves further, so that makes them make mistakes which make them lose their money, even though they should be able to make a profit. and therefore when a gambler can stop himself from gambling again, there he can be said to be a gambler who has matured in gambling and is not influenced by things he shouldn't.

      -  What about those gamblers who gamble for the first time and immediately get the gambling jackpot prize? Can it be called successful that he was lucky or not? Because, as far as I know, there are many gamblers like that who don't know anything but immediately hit the jackpot gambling prize.

Maybe somehow it can still be considered successful, but just like you said, being successful should also be known as being responsible, in terms of the fact that if the person who got the jackpot immediately gives up and stops, then it can be considered successful.

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December 10, 2023, 12:25:43 PM
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If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.

The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.

...

successful gamblers are gamblers who know their limits and when they should stop. most gamblers only know how to hone their skills and how to win the game, but they don't learn how to stop themselves further, so that makes them make mistakes which make them lose their money, even though they should be able to make a profit. and therefore when a gambler can stop himself from gambling again, there he can be said to be a gambler who has matured in gambling and is not influenced by things he shouldn't.
There is a big difference between an ordinary gambler and a successful gambler. Most successful gamblers are different from ordinary gamblers. A successful gambler behaves positively even if he loses in gambling but there are many typical gamblers who lose their money and gamble often with anger. Successful gamblers can take risks. They are able to keep their emotions even in difficult situations. Successful gamblers must be disciplined in their gambling and stick to their rules in any difficult situation. If a new gambler can understand these things well then he can use his experience to be successful in gambling.

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December 10, 2023, 02:03:20 PM
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There is a big difference between an ordinary gambler and a successful gambler. Most successful gamblers are different from ordinary gamblers. A successful gambler behaves positively even if he loses in gambling but there are many typical gamblers who lose their money and gamble often with anger. Successful gamblers can take risks. They are able to keep their emotions even in difficult situations. Successful gamblers must be disciplined in their gambling and stick to their rules in any difficult situation. If a new gambler can understand these things well then he can use his experience to be successful in gambling.
A successful gambler already knows what he has to do while gambling, and he will not force his will to pursue victory. He can certainly control his emotions well. This is different from ordinary gamblers, who often lose control of themselves when gambling, so they experience losses more often. Successful gamblers can anticipate large losses by taking a few breaks to think about what they should do and will not rush into decisions because they know that making hasty decisions will not give good results. We have to learn to become a successful gambler, and even though we haven't reached that stage yet, we can still learn so we can always control ourselves well.

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December 11, 2023, 10:12:58 AM
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In fact, advice and suggestions to avoid the harmful effects of gambling and gambling addiction are everywhere, also with the current boom in online gambling that is everywhere, of course, this makes it likely that many people already know gambling, so among them all there must be addicted and there are also those who have a gambling limit. And considering that gambling can destroy a person's life, I myself often advise my friends who can spend a lot of money gambling in just one night, whose name is already addicted, it must be difficult to accept advice from others, because I feel that how difficult it is to realize my friends who spend a lot of money in one night just gambling.

Indeed, it is his own right but I as his friend will not let him continue like this, because his brain that has been washed by gambling makes them blind to the losses they experience. I will also try to make my friend aware of this gambling addiction, because after all he shouldn't spend a lot of money gambling because it's not a good thing for him. or should I allow my friend to continue spending his money until he realizes it himself?
There is a thin line between intervening and respecting someone's autonomy, even while you care about them. Remember that gambling psychology is nuanced. It's not just a random game either - it stimulates the brain's reward system and releases dopamine,. It mimics a trance where the excitement of a potential victory obscures the possibility of failure. Have you tried talking to your friend about this and showing them the data and stories of other people who have taken similar steps? Hearing about other people's experiences might occasionally serve as a mirror, reflecting one's own circumstances

And then there's the whole boundary-setting thing. I understand that it's difficult, but sometimes rough love is necessary. Have you thought about recommending any different activities? Perhaps something exhilarating but less dangerous? Have any of you ever played a game night where the only thing up for grabs is bragging rights? It strikes a careful mix between assistance and restraint. Recall that you can't make someone change; they have to voluntarily want to. However, as a friend, your encouragement can be just the push they need to adopt a new perspective. Continue the conversation; occasionally, these brief exchanges are what spark major transformations

In fact, by hearing the experiences of others, it should be able to be a lesson for ourselves, because with that we can judge or see how things will happen to us if we do the same thing as people who have experienced unwanted things. and I think also my friend already knows or has heard the experiences of others, but maybe he doesn't care about it because he still has hopes in gambling that must be completed. I'm also sick of advising him so lately I just let him be, and when he tells me about almost getting a win I just smile and don't respond to his story more.

When it comes to recommending other things, of course I have even often, when he is going to do gambling I always advise him to do other things such as playing fustal, hanging out or taking a walk on a motorbike, but unfortunately it doesn't work, indeed his thoughts that have been washed by gambling make him stubborn to not be able to refuse him to do gambling. so he still insists on what he thinks regardless of anything else. I don't know when he will realize that what he is doing is detrimental to himself. I myself don't care anymore.

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December 16, 2023, 12:27:45 PM
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A successful gambler already knows what he has to do while gambling, and he will not force his will to pursue victory. He can certainly control his emotions well. This is different from ordinary gamblers, who often lose control of themselves when gambling, so they experience losses more often. Successful gamblers can anticipate large losses by taking a few breaks to think about what they should do and will not rush into decisions because they know that making hasty decisions will not give good results. We have to learn to become a successful gambler, and even though we haven't reached that stage yet, we can still learn so we can always control ourselves well.

Actually, you don't need to force your will to pursue victory, that would be easy. The thing is that you have to force your will to not pursue victory, or to not chase your losses. That's the hardest bit. And if you can do that most of the time(no one can do it all the time), you are a successful gambler regardless of whether you are in profit money-wise or not.

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December 16, 2023, 01:02:55 PM
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A successful gambler already knows what he has to do while gambling, and he will not force his will to pursue victory. He can certainly control his emotions well. This is different from ordinary gamblers, who often lose control of themselves when gambling, so they experience losses more often. Successful gamblers can anticipate large losses by taking a few breaks to think about what they should do and will not rush into decisions because they know that making hasty decisions will not give good results. We have to learn to become a successful gambler, and even though we haven't reached that stage yet, we can still learn so we can always control ourselves well.

Actually, you don't need to force your will to pursue victory, that would be easy. The thing is that you have to force your will to not pursue victory, or to not chase your losses. That's the hardest bit. And if you can do that most of the time(no one can do it all the time), you are a successful gambler regardless of whether you are in profit money-wise or not.

yes, because that way gamblers will know when is the right time to leave the game or continue playing. whether it's winning or losing.
some gamblers do not have such control, all that happens is to fulfill the ambition of getting a big win. those who do it regardless of the losses they have received. those who pursue the ambition of victory will only experience defeat. I mean hoping to win from the game is human. but we have to understand the limitations.



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December 16, 2023, 01:32:24 PM
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What I learned from gambling is to divide money well, has a strong principle and is responsible for what happens.

This I got from gambling or indirectly can be said to strengthen my understanding in financial and mental matters to become human beings who can control themselves both thoughts and hearts in responding to something, including winning ambitions, disappointment and other things I spent, And take a lot of lessons from the amount of time I use to gamble.
The thing that can be added is that self -evaluation will continuously help you in response to gambling, wanting to get money from gambling will be biased and disappear and you will only look for faithfulness from gambling, I hope you understand what I mean.

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yes, because that way gamblers will know when is the right time to leave the game or continue playing. whether it's winning or losing.
some gamblers do not have such control, all that happens is to fulfill the ambition of getting a big win. those who do it regardless of the losses they have received. those who pursue the ambition of victory will only experience defeat. I mean hoping to win from the game is human. but we have to understand the limitations.

Depends on your ambition. If it's big enough, you can lose everything before getting there. Not only everything you have, but also everything you have borrowed. I can imagine this critical amount for me, for example. Since my biggest win on slots was never above $250, I think if my ambition was to win, say, $300 it would end up very badly for me long time ago. It's good that in reality I'm perfectly satisfied with winning around $20 from my 20 cents bet. Don't set goals too high, guys, especially for gambling.

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December 23, 2023, 10:11:01 PM
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Actually, you don't need to force your will to pursue victory, that would be easy. The thing is that you have to force your will to not pursue victory, or to not chase your losses. That's the hardest bit. And if you can do that most of the time(no one can do it all the time), you are a successful gambler regardless of whether you are in profit money-wise or not.
Indeed, we don't need to force our will to chase win, but the problem is that when they have won, most gamblers want an even bigger win. This makes them continue to gamble and look like they are chasing their winnings, and many of them do this unconsciously because of that desire. They want to get even bigger wins, so they intend to continue gambling even though they have to deposit more money. But that won't happen to professional gamblers because they don't want to do that. They already know that if they chase their winnings, it is difficult, and it could lead to more losses. They can make good decisions because they have more experience than most gamblers.

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December 23, 2023, 10:18:11 PM
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Depends on your ambition. If it's big enough, you can lose everything before getting there. Not only everything you have, but also everything you have borrowed. I can imagine this critical amount for me, for example. Since my biggest win on slots was never above $250, I think if my ambition was to win, say, $300 it would end up very badly for me long time ago. It's good that in reality I'm perfectly satisfied with winning around $20 from my 20 cents bet. Don't set goals too high, guys, especially for gambling.

The gambler who like to make the huge money in the gambling should not allow their emotions in the game.This was the biggest hidden strategy of the successful gamblers,they never get into depression after the loss.They will consider it as the game learning opportunity,So use the money to learn the game.Many gamblers learn more knowledge from the gambling by using the real money,they won’t complain about the gambling site after the loss.Because they know it’s not the end of the game,he will play many games in the gambling in the future.So this game is just an experience for them.Such gambler will arrange more money to play in the future game,because if the gamblers play with more capital will allow them to make more money in the future game.
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Depends on your ambition. If it's big enough, you can lose everything before getting there. Not only everything you have, but also everything you have borrowed. I can imagine this critical amount for me, for example. Since my biggest win on slots was never above $250, I think if my ambition was to win, say, $300 it would end up very badly for me long time ago. It's good that in reality I'm perfectly satisfied with winning around $20 from my 20 cents bet. Don't set goals too high, guys, especially for gambling.

The gambler who like to make the huge money in the gambling should not allow their emotions in the game.This was the biggest hidden strategy of the successful gamblers,they never get into depression after the loss.They will consider it as the game learning opportunity,So use the money to learn the game.Many gamblers learn more knowledge from the gambling by using the real money,they won’t complain about the gambling site after the loss.Because they know it’s not the end of the game,he will play many games in the gambling in the future.So this game is just an experience for them.Such gambler will arrange more money to play in the future game,because if the gamblers play with more capital will allow them to make more money in the future game.
Be mindful on the actions that you would gonna do, because if you do let yourself that not be mindful on the actions that you are taking then you are really that bound to mess up your life
because of too much gambling on which we know that its never been that recommended that you do spend up tons of money with it or just because of that kind of hope on making huge money.
Gambling is really just that for fun and dont let yourself do really end up into a situation on which you are really that already experiencing those hardships just because you are
making those kind of delusional approach towards it. We do know that gambling for fun is something that should be on that way but people are really that going the other way around.

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December 23, 2023, 10:30:57 PM
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Take the money and go away and that's going to make you happy already.  Most of the gamblers are not satisfied with just a few bucks to hundreds of profits.

And that's why that instead of taking out money from the casino and be satisfied with it, many are not.

That's the reason why they keep on going on and they will have their own reasonable lessons when they've experienced these times.

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December 23, 2023, 10:39:13 PM
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If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.

The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.
Someone who walks into casino with $200 and have planned to win $2k cannot exit the casino prematurely. It doesn't matter if they doubled or tripled their capital, what matters to them is that they hit their expectations. In the real investment, to have 100% return is not easy. Even 20% return annually is near impossible for a genuine investment. But in gambling you can see someone who has made 3000% profits and yet they are not satisfied and that is the greed factor in gambling. Well, some can argue that it is the nature of gambling, meanwhile, the rich men stick to the principle of 50% return but high capital. That's the reason it seems that the rich has more winning ratio than the poor.

In summary, what I have learnt in gambling is not to go much risky and do not alter your moderate gambling habit because of your friends exorbitant gambling nature.

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December 23, 2023, 10:48:40 PM
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If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.

The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.

The only game where you have some power is in Poker, not the online one, this is the best game in casinos, as making profits off of bad players is possible.

As for Other games, You are at the mercy of the house.

No one actually visits the casino to have fun, you gotta trick the mind, I like to think of it has a fun night out and I am going to spend a few hundred dollars and have a good time and if I win it's a bonus, like I've said, you gotta trick the mind.

Always remember this, you are there to win a game where its statistically impossible to win at, it's not impossible to not understand this about gambling, a wise man once said, "if you want to make money with gambling, own a casino".
The trick when playing in a casino is coming in with friends. Never come in alone. Think of the casino as the accessory to your enjoyment and less about the reason why you wanna enjoy in the first place. If you do so otherwise you'll easily fall victim to the antics that most brick-and-mortar casinos employ to trick their players. Plus you're more susceptible to spending more than you can afford when with friends they can easily tell you when to stop and when to quit. I myself noticed this as I've been in casinos both alone and with company. 9 times out of ten I find myself spending more than what I initially intended to when I'm alone, while when I'm with friends before we even get to the casino we're already talking about how much we're just going to spend.

Thought I might just add this up to your things that you've known as a gambler since I noticed this one as well and thought I might share it with people in here. It's hard to trick the mind into thinking you're only gambling for fun when all you can think about before you open that door is money. So make it about something else and you're sure to enjoy every single moment of it.
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so true. the only real wealth is the casino owner. I'm sure there is a lot of manipulation in the initial profit part of the strategy. Here we have to really be in control and really know when we can stop. Unfortunately for addicts who are even willing to spend their assets, they always think this is something that can generate wealth. without realizing they are having their assets drained. no matter how rich we are if we are gambling addicts it will make our assets run out no matter how people will take them. I always make this entertainment, play for fun without involving real assets.

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December 23, 2023, 11:10:40 PM
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If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.

The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.

This is very true I am among the gamblers who wanted to challenge oneself, I experienced setting up a 30x challenge in my gambling session, while playing with an initial deposit of $20.  I almost hit that 30x since I won around $500 in that sole session but somewhere along that session I lose control and got triggered making my 25x winnings depleted together with my bankroll.  Although I am still good since I only gamble what I can afford to lose, anyone who has that experience can see it as a waste since winning 25x of the bankroll is already a great win but I became stubborn and insisted on hitting that 30x which resulted in a lost.  Cheesy

In summary, what I have learnt in gambling is not to go much risky and do not alter your moderate gambling habit because of your friends exorbitant gambling nature.

True that, we should stick to our gambling practice of moderation and limitation.  If we give in and remove our limitation because of a friend, we will end up ruining our financial status.  Let our friends think what they want to think but we must stick to our responsible gambling routine.

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December 23, 2023, 11:26:59 PM
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This is very true I am among the gamblers who wanted to challenge oneself, I experienced setting up a 30x challenge in my gambling session, while playing with an initial deposit of $20.  I almost hit that 30x since I won around $500 in that sole session but somewhere along that session I lose control and got triggered making my 25x winnings depleted together with my bankroll.  Although I am still good since I only gamble what I can afford to lose, anyone who has that experience can see it as a waste since winning 25x of the bankroll is already a great win but I became stubborn and insisted on hitting that 30x which resulted in a lost.  Cheesy


The gambler who start the game with 20$ dollars will have the chance of 20 betting in the gambling site,because the gamblers should use the minimum of 1 dollars in each betting.If you play the game like dice of High-Low,you can easy multiple the money into x10 or x12.5 of your betting money.So this game had the risk of losing the money,but if you play with care.The possibility of winning from dice and High-Low will be more because both game was dependent on the probability.The gambler who had more analysis in the game probability would have been more accurate win from the gambling site.
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December 23, 2023, 11:35:39 PM
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Take the money and go away and that's going to make you happy already.  Most of the gamblers are not satisfied with just a few bucks to hundreds of profits.

And that's why that instead of taking out money from the casino and be satisfied with it, many are not.

That's the reason why they keep on going on and they will have their own reasonable lessons when they've experienced these times.

Yes, that's what they should do if they manage to get a win or that means being in a situation of pretty good luck, but unfortunately most of the gamblers can't do that, the urge out of hope for something bigger always appears when gamblers are in a winning situation, instead of withdrawing or cashing out to enjoy but what they choose is to apply greed by making previous wins as capital for a much bigger win, but the question is not that it is still uncertain? Or does that mean you don't know what the next session will be like? Obviously, it's nothing more than a hallucination that comes out of the excitement of being in a winning situation.

Usually in any case if you apply greed then usually the final result will always be disappointing, it's a fact that often happens if you choose to act greedy instead of cashing out and going to enjoy it. Therefore, if you have already won then I think the best option is to cash out rather than losing all your previous winnings because of applying greed and regretting it.

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December 23, 2023, 11:54:24 PM
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If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.

The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.

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successful gamblers are gamblers who know their limits and when they should stop. most gamblers only know how to hone their skills and how to win the game, but they don't learn how to stop themselves further, so that makes them make mistakes which make them lose their money, even though they should be able to make a profit. and therefore when a gambler can stop himself from gambling again, there he can be said to be a gambler who has matured in gambling and is not influenced by things he shouldn't.
Knowing your limit will help you a long way more than the quest to win more money but then most gamblers fail at it because they not only fail to know their limit but also fail to cultivate self control, this is one great habit that will help every gambler succeed much better than they would have if they had no control.

Gambling with discipline and self control is a lot more profitable than just gambling like that because some day you will be able to know when to stop regardless of how much you have lost and on another day you can turn out so profitable that you will aswell Ned to stop too before you loose everything back to the casino after winning enough to cover for your previous loss, basically any gambler who wants to consistently win gambling needs discipline and self control as it will help them a long way staying consistent both on good and bad days.

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