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Do you ever feel like that being after saving or investing for future you forget to live in the present? You don't buy the things you want to or don't go after experiences you want because you'd rather save/invest for future instead.
I used to focus on long-term plans, having a rough understanding of what I need to save up for and what I want my life to look like. But then a full-scale war hit my country, and suddenly planning became irrelevant, impossible. So now I'm more of a "live in the present" kind of person, which is why if I want something and I can buy it, I usually buy it because I don't have an expectation of long-term stability of my life for the future. Imagining the future doesn't come easily to me anymore, and having a generic understanding of how the next few months will look like already seems long-term.

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November 22, 2023, 05:32:36 PM
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Do you ever feel like that being after saving or investing for future you forget to live in the present? You don't buy the things you want to or don't go after experiences you want because you'd rather save/invest for future instead.
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November 22, 2023, 10:17:16 PM
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It's true Future is uncertain. Saving and investing provide a solid foundation to face future challenges and the arguments you convey are quite wise, which requires the key to sound financial management to support long-term financial goals and the fact is that most of us, when we have a little excess fortune, always forget ourselves. as if this is no longer needed even though life still has a long journey
People who often forget themselves when they have more fortune are people who don't want to plan their future from now on so that people like that will always have easier difficulties in their lives. Things like that cannot be taken as a good example for life, because investing and saving have become important for everyone who wants to make the foundation of their own life stronger. The key to managing finances better is now easier to find through several aspects and also through people who have implemented it first, so there is no need to be lazy about this as long as we still really want to live happily in the future.
It is true that people who don't plan for their future are more likely to have difficulties later on in life. Financial planning is inevitability for everyone, regardless of their income level. It helps you reach your financial security. Whether you want to save for a down payment on a house, retire early, or simply for health emergencies, financial planning can help you make the most of your money.

People need to ovoid debt which can be a major source of stress and financial hardship. Financial planning become essential to help you avoid it by teaching you how to live within your means and save for unexpected expenses. By knowing that you have a plan for your financial future can give you peace of mind and allow you to focus on enjoying your life.

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November 22, 2023, 11:36:10 PM
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Do you ever feel like that being after saving or investing for future you forget to live in the present? You don't buy the things you want to or don't go after experiences you want because you'd rather save/invest for future instead.
I used to focus on long-term plans, having a rough understanding of what I need to save up for and what I want my life to look like. But then a full-scale war hit my country, and suddenly planning became irrelevant, impossible. So now I'm more of a "live in the present" kind of person, which is why if I want something and I can buy it, I usually buy it because I don't have an expectation of long-term stability of my life for the future. Imagining the future doesn't come easily to me anymore, and having a generic understanding of how the next few months will look like already seems long-term.

Your post should be inspiration enough for everyone who does not live in a country that is involved in war to make the best out of their lives and waste as less time as possible. Especially when people have already founded a family, leaving a place becomes exponentially harder. I don't know your circumstances, but I can very well understand that you have turned into a live-in-the-present-person when actually you used to make plans before the war hit.

But I think these unexpected events can happen to anyone in one way or another. Sadly, for some people this is war that should have never taken place in the first place and also hits innocent civilians, but it could be an illness that changes one's life from one second to another. One that kills you fast or one that gives you a few more years.

I still think that no matter what happens, people should never give up on dreaming. Having something in front of you that you feel is worth pursuing despite difficult circumstances can do a little bit of magic to your life.

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November 22, 2023, 11:43:09 PM
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It often happens, I was even willing not to buy my dream motorbike just to choose to invest in Bitcoin. for me to get a bright future we have to sacrifice the happiness of youth or the present. for example, to get a bright future we must have knowledge and to gain knowledge we must sacrifice our youth to seek knowledge. The point is to get a bright future there are many things we have to sacrifice, including not buying something we want and choosing investments.

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November 23, 2023, 01:16:45 AM
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Do you ever feel like that being after saving or investing for future you forget to live in the present? You don't buy the things you want to or don't go after experiences you want because you'd rather save/invest for future instead.

That's not forgetting how to live your present, that's called sacrificing what you can have today to build a better future. Forgetting how to live in the present means you might be recklessly spending because of the future looks uncertain. Being on focus presently and understanding that sacrifices being made is much better description of how saving and investing feels like.
I have been saving my whole life as much as I can and also set aside some funds for small investments, but I did not forget how to live in the present, but I've certainly made sacrifices to obtain all what I have so far. That being said, I think there's a difference between forgetting and sacrificing.

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November 23, 2023, 01:32:46 AM
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We all know that people invest and save only to brighten their future. But in fulfilling that bright future purpose, people forget their mortality, because people are mortal, and they have to keep this in mind. When it comes to investing, you must think about the future and save your money for peace of mind. You will only save and invest the wealth for your future generations so that your children can enjoy this wealth and live a happy and peaceful life. Moreover, you should not forget that it takes a lot of hard work to create a beautiful and bright future for you that can make you rich. If you work hard to save money and tend to make your family happy and peaceful, of course it may bring you happiness, but you must not forget the present.

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November 23, 2023, 06:11:53 AM
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It often happens, I was even willing not to buy my dream motorbike just to choose to invest in Bitcoin. for me to get a bright future we have to sacrifice the happiness of youth or the present. for example, to get a bright future we must have knowledge and to gain knowledge we must sacrifice our youth to seek knowledge. The point is to get a bright future there are many things we have to sacrifice, including not buying something we want and choosing investments.

Same here mate. I guess it is normal for people like us who are eager to have a better future to satisfy our present craves which aren't too futuristic. Since 2022 which was the start of the bear season in crypto, I haven't bought something too expensive for myself. I traveled outside the city only twice as well. All of these sacrifices are in the name of saving in order to invest more into bitcoin and some altcoins.

Hopefully, next year starts a major bull run. I am planning to live outside the city for months and chill. But of course, I will continue monitoring the market.

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November 23, 2023, 03:41:57 PM
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It often happens, I was even willing not to buy my dream motorbike just to choose to invest in Bitcoin. for me to get a bright future we have to sacrifice the happiness of youth or the present. for example, to get a bright future we must have knowledge and to gain knowledge we must sacrifice our youth to seek knowledge. The point is to get a bright future there are many things we have to sacrifice, including not buying something we want and choosing investments.

One can sacrifice his own happiness but he cannot sacrifice the happiness and desires of his family. One can control his emotions and live a life without success of his dreams but I don't think that a parent will ever invest by sacrificing the dreams of his children. It is reality that if you sacrifice something then you will get more than this even present will be more better than past. If you sacrifice your dream to buy a bike due to the reason that you have to use that amount for bitcoin investment then I think that there will be a day when your dream will change into reality because bitcoin is the only hope of people who cannot make stable life with a single or no salary.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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November 23, 2023, 05:30:31 PM
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Do you ever feel like that being after saving or investing for future you forget to live in the present? You don't buy the things you want to or don't go after experiences you want because you'd rather save/invest for future instead.
If you are doing that, you are living an imbalanced life. You need to live your present well by not depriving yourself on your basic needs, and at the  same time you need to save and prepare for your future as well. That is how to live a good and balanced life. Otherwise, if you focus on your future, you will lost the essence of living your life at the present, which for me your present will determine your future. Living your present life with contentment and satisfaction is crucial so you can envision a brighter life in the future.

However, there are still individuals who have greater vision for their future than living their present well. And that's one thing that we can't change simply because all individuals are unique, and have different views and opinions on how to live life well.

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November 23, 2023, 06:11:03 PM
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Do you ever feel like that being after saving or investing for future you forget to live in the present? You don't buy the things you want to or don't go after experiences you want because you'd rather save/invest for future instead.
I would live in the present i.e live comfortably any extra fund then is invested for the future, I can't sacrifice my present for imaginary future, I have met people who are taking care of the present inform of investing in the education of their children with the hope that in the future those kids would look after them too, those category of people has no any savings because all their money is channelled to feeding, housing and spending on the children education, this is very common in some pert of Africa and its obvious those children after they grown up and became well educated and got a decent job they tend to reciprocate gesture to their aged parents.

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Absolutely. Future is uncertain, so it is better to start saving as soon as possible, just in case. I see how friends of mine spend all the money they earn every month because they "don't work all day to want something and not buy it", but I'm happy valuing immaterial things, and trying to achieve financial freedom someday.

In the end you end up liking the stoic taste taken in the act of holding back yourself and saving or investing instead of spending. Dreaming with future promises is something very pleasurable too.

It's true Future is uncertain. Saving and investing provide a solid foundation to face future challenges and the arguments you convey are quite wise, which requires the key to sound financial management to support long-term financial goals and the fact is that most of us, when we have a little excess fortune, always forget ourselves. as if this is no longer needed even though life still has a long journey
But is it good to be too frugal, only thinking about the future and forgetting about the present? What is the future, is it tomorrow? And if we only think about tomorrow, does that mean we will always worry about it until we die? What is financial freedom? Because human greed has no bottom, once we have it, we want bigger things and if we keep doing that, when will we stop to enjoy life? To me, the future is something that needs to be carefully prepared, but don't neglect the present, we need to balance our lives instead of just thinking one way.
Being frugal lets you save for your future, but I don't think you need to be frugal all the time until you become deprived of your wants and needs. That is living your life the wrong way. Although you're going to maximize your savings in the future, but it will also compromise your current happiness which I think is not healthy anymore. Sometimes, you need to live life without worrying the future and just enjoy everything what life has to offer. You don't need to be very obsessed of what will be your future, you don't even know if you are still able to live your future, right?

Live and enjoy your life, no if's and but's. Be grateful of what you have and even to what you don't have. That's the only way to live your life happy and stress free.

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It often happens, I was even willing not to buy my dream motorbike just to choose to invest in Bitcoin. for me to get a bright future we have to sacrifice the happiness of youth or the present. for example, to get a bright future we must have knowledge and to gain knowledge we must sacrifice our youth to seek knowledge. The point is to get a bright future there are many things we have to sacrifice, including not buying something we want and choosing investments.
That can be a good thought but on the other hand it can be a double-edged sword if you just want to invest without knowing what you are investing in. But when you make a choice with that then it does seem like you know what you are doing now so I think that is a good thing because you are thinking about the future but don't let this disrupt your economy for now because when deciding to invest in bitcoin then you have to be prepared with some risks so there is no need to rush because you can also do with other strategies such as DCA. I meant is that we can invest in bitcoin but that does not mean we have to sacrifice our pending desires because if we can do both (get something you want to buy and invest) then why choose only one.

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One can sacrifice his own happiness but he cannot sacrifice the happiness and desires of his family. One can control his emotions and live a life without success of his dreams but I don't think that a parent will ever invest by sacrificing the dreams of his children. It is reality that if you sacrifice something then you will get more than this even present will be more better than past. If you sacrifice your dream to buy a bike due to the reason that you have to use that amount for bitcoin investment then I think that there will be a day when your dream will change into reality because bitcoin is the only hope of people who cannot make stable life with a single or no salary.
When someone grows up in a loving family, that's for sure going to be one of his goals. And that is to make his family at their best situation and will fulfill the needs when he or she becomes a working person. But you know what? This is what we call the sandwich generation where the parents are still reliant to their children even if he/she is grown up or with own family.

There is nothing wrong with that as family is forever but it's not prepared by the older family to make their children prepare for their own happiness. So, that's why stress is coming and obligations thinking that he/she should take all the burden and sustain the personal and old families needs.

This generation should break that chain and from you and me will have to stop it. Our kids should enjoy their own money in the future and we need to prepare for our own retirement so that they won't be stressing themselves thinking about us. There is nothing wrong if someone is lovely to his family. But these days are hard when most opportunities are very competitive and limited and rates are not that much.

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Human wants are insatiable And there is no one that can Ever satisfy his or her wants because the more you try To meet up with your presents needs the more other designs of different fashions And taste are also hitting the Market .So trying To satisfy your presnet is quite nice But investing or trying To save for future will actually enable you live up To your visioned life style And the more you save or invest for the future will also make you remain financially stabilized .
Investing and saving are just efforts to create financial stability because that is the basic goal for everyone in their own future, but some people still struggle to be able to continue implementing this throughout their lives so they can invest and save more consistently. Because the obstacle for some people in their lives is the level of consistency in investing and saving, not their desire to invest and save because almost everyone probably really wants to continue investing and continue to save for financial freedom in the future.

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Do you ever feel like that being after saving or investing for future you forget to live in the present? You don't buy the things you want to or don't go after experiences you want because you'd rather save/invest for future instead.


Yeah mostly I felt like that when I'm working somewhere. Because my mindset told me you are working right now right here so you must be careful on your actions. And my daily routine turns to work to house. And once I reach my spare time I starts to resting and I have bunch of money. I know whats the cost of this money and I don't want to spend for useless thing and I invest it. Almost 4-5 years past with this mindset and my goal is retiring before getting 35 then I can start to live in the present Cheesy
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Do you ever feel like that being after saving or investing for future you forget to live in the present? You don't buy the things you want to or don't go after experiences you want because you'd rather save/invest for future instead.

I have, held back because it aims to invest in the future, but I think life is only once so it should be enjoyed not to torture, life is held back to satisfy the heart for the perfect future,
Now I have changed my thinking about saving and investing by saving appropriately, even if my needs are sufficient and not holding back my desire to have my favorite things.

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November 24, 2023, 03:16:34 AM
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For me personally, I don't have a problem with not buying the things I want, as long as the item is still functional I will continue to use it, for example a motorbike, even though my motorbike is around 7 years old, I still use it. I could have upgraded to buy a motorbike, but I didn't take that step, because I preferred to think about my and my child's future.

Why take experience in fashion if our life has no benefit, for years there is no end to trends, new ones will always appear every year, it is better for us to save the results of our sweat which are more useful such as saving and investing to achieve a bright future for us.

Whatever people want to say to me with my simple lifestyle, for me losing time is stupid or a waste, it's better to make the best use of time in any case. Moreover, when it comes to planning for the future, I will choose to postpone my pleasures today or hold off on buying something in my youth, and I will invest the money I get and enjoy the results when I am old.



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November 24, 2023, 12:44:36 PM
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Do you ever feel like that being after saving or investing for future you forget to live in the present? You don't buy the things you want to or don't go after experiences you want because you'd rather save/invest for future instead.

I did feel that OP. But lately I learned how to be present with my loved ones. I think Im fortunate because I am employed to a company that respects my personal time. After work hours, I literally dont work anymore and I have extra time for my side hustles. I can also spend time with my family and friends on weekends and holidays. But I know it is not the case for everyone. First of all we have to know who we are, what we really want, and what are our priorities. Balancing saving for the future and enjoying the present can be a challenge. Its about finding the right balance that aligns with your long-term goals while allowing yourself to appreciate life in the present. We will all get there.

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November 24, 2023, 01:02:19 PM
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Do you ever feel like that being after saving or investing for future you forget to live in the present? You don't buy the things you want to or don't go after experiences you want because you'd rather save/invest for future instead.

Unfortunately, this is the price of a good future. We always have to save some money so that the money supply accumulates. And we always need to think about increasing it, so that later the interest from manipulating this money (trading, interest) will give us money for a Free life. If you live alone, it's easy to save, but if you live with your wife, then this whole situation becomes very complicated. They do not know how to save and create a lot of unnecessary expenses that slow down the accumulation of money. Unfortunately, it's hard, but there's nothing you can do. We need to pursue our goals further. It's like to increase the consistency in the game.

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