Streamer wins seem too good

[goinmerry]

First, as long as the casino itself tells you to gamble responsibly, and you also are legally allowed to do without anyone forcing you to do. So, you shouldn’t get influenced by those streamers no matter what. They are only doing their job and creating content about gambling or trying a casino they didn’t invite you or force you to gamble.

And since these streamers also paid for a number of views, they will just continue to create gambling-related content specifically targeting those gambling community audiences regardless if they are affiliated or not by these gambling sites. In most cases, some gambling streamers are not really partnered with a gambling site. They just want to lure viewers to their channels and show their experience regarding that gambling site.

Second, which is going to be the opinion of most users and people here. Streamers that get paid and shows their winnings are paid by the casino and beside that they have more probabilities and rates of winning than other regular players at the casino. That’s why we always see those streamers win most of the time just to seduce people into gambling.

I don't believe that those winnings are paid by the casino intentionally and these guys are using a specific program provided by the gambling site to increase the probability of winning. Since they are partnered with the casino, they will be given a huge bankroll to play with. In gambling, the longer your bankroll lasts, the more chances to win big and that's the reason why paid streamers always win big in their stream.

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[robelneo]

I don't believe that those winnings are paid by the casino intentionally and these guys are using a specific program provided by the gambling site to increase the probability of winning. Since they are partnered with the casino, they will be given a huge bankroll to play with. In gambling, the longer your bankroll lasts, the more chances to win big and that's the reason why paid streamers always win big in their stream.

I also don't believe it,  it will harm the casino's reputation if one streamer comes out and exposes a casino by saying that he is playing on a different platform other than all the gamblers are playing, they might even blackmail the casino to expose that they rigged the game in favor of the streamers.
I will accept the bankroll distribution, it's an open secret and this is to test the platform and entice gamblers to deposit more and play the games like streamers do, it's to entice gamblers that they can duplicate the streamer's success.

[angrybirdy]

I don't believe that those winnings are paid by the casino intentionally and these guys are using a specific program provided by the gambling site to increase the probability of winning. Since they are partnered with the casino, they will be given a huge bankroll to play with. In gambling, the longer your bankroll lasts, the more chances to win big and that's the reason why paid streamers always win big in their stream.

I also don't believe it,  it will harm the casino's reputation if one streamer comes out and exposes a casino by saying that he is playing on a different platform other than all the gamblers are playing, they might even blackmail the casino to expose that they rigged the game in favor of the streamers.
I will accept the bankroll distribution, it's an open secret and this is to test the platform and entice gamblers to deposit more and play the games like streamers do, it's to entice gamblers that they can duplicate the streamer's success.

Even if they don't reveal the truth, It's very obvious that there's something wrong in their live streams and vlogs. winning a huge amount of money in a row is really surprising and intrigguing because it didn't happen in real life. it's just a common sense that gambling agency sites have something to do with what's going on, some livestreamers may be using set up accounts.

[piebeyb]

I will accept the bankroll distribution, it's an open secret and this is to test the platform and entice gamblers to deposit more and play the games like streamers do, it's to entice gamblers that they can duplicate the streamer's success.

Yes, that's the existing system regarding streamers who collaborate with casinos, so it's no longer a public secret, we all know that winnings are manipulated just to attract the attention of new users, otherwise it's so difficult to attract attention, especially of course novice gamblers need to see their winnings to make sure they play well. Big bets are more profitable than smaller bets.

Usually streamers never bet with small bets to convince people to bet bigger, because that is the marketing system carried out by the casino and of course beginners who are new to gambling and want to gamble will be tempted to make large deposits to gamble with bets. the greater one. but for old gamblers maybe this is no longer an open secret and of course new users will learn from their failures and realize their mistake about streamers winning big is just marketing.

[moneystery]

most of the streamer is an endorsment ordered by casino to be able to promote their games to more people. these streamers usually play from special accounts provided by the casino platform that makes them likely to win more beating compared to usual players. no need to be surprised that the play history of the streamers is better because it has all been arranged by the casino platform.

[malcovi2]

I have watched some streamers and most of the time they lose while chasing these big wins.
I don't believe in the special account given by casinos because if you compute their overall P&L they are still in the negative.

[Oasisman]

I don't believe that those winnings are paid by the casino intentionally and these guys are using a specific program provided by the gambling site to increase the probability of winning. Since they are partnered with the casino, they will be given a huge bankroll to play with. In gambling, the longer your bankroll lasts, the more chances to win big and that's the reason why paid streamers always win big in their stream.

I also don't believe it,  it will harm the casino's reputation if one streamer comes out and exposes a casino by saying that he is playing on a different platform other than all the gamblers are playing, they might even blackmail the casino to expose that they rigged the game in favor of the streamers.
I will accept the bankroll distribution, it's an open secret and this is to test the platform and entice gamblers to deposit more and play the games like streamers do, it's to entice gamblers that they can duplicate the streamer's success.

I guess streamer can't stuff like blackmailing, exposing, or anything like this as they are most probably has an agreement with the casino before they engage with each other's terms. Unless there's a bit of a misunderstanding and the streamer resort to that, It will spark a legal disputes.
But if a streamer is well-paid, we'll expect no negative feed backs from them on that specific casino they are working with.
It's not even an open secret, It's a common sense for everyone that If someone is working for any gambling platform it is expected that they will tweak their system a little bit so the person who is advertising or playing live on the platform would look like he's winning everytime. And yeah to entice people to play on that specific gambling platform.

[maydna]

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You are watching streamers just like how it was intended which is correct way of doing it. Many people are doubtful because they are venting their stress on their personal losses to streamers that winning and called it unfair while this streamers lose a lot too probably not recorded.

Streamers should be watch for entertainment purposes only and not a role model on gambling because everyone has different result due to luck is random same with the slot games result.

That's why when we watch streamers playing slots, we don't need to take it too seriously. Anything can happen, including what we will experience in gambling games. We can't hope too much to get a big win like the streamer experienced. We are different from those streamers in that we also need to control spending money on gambling. Moreover, we also don't know whether the money used by the streamer is his own money or the money given by the casino so he can make videos of his slot games to attract people to visit his casino.

Yes, agree with you to just watch the streamer without any feelings. We just need to enjoy the slot game without being affected. If other people are affected, let them be because we have to be responsible with the money we use for gambling.

[ultrloa]

I don't believe that those winnings are paid by the casino intentionally and these guys are using a specific program provided by the gambling site to increase the probability of winning. Since they are partnered with the casino, they will be given a huge bankroll to play with. In gambling, the longer your bankroll lasts, the more chances to win big and that's the reason why paid streamers always win big in their stream.

I also don't believe it,  it will harm the casino's reputation if one streamer comes out and exposes a casino by saying that he is playing on a different platform other than all the gamblers are playing, they might even blackmail the casino to expose that they rigged the game in favor of the streamers.
I will accept the bankroll distribution, it's an open secret and this is to test the platform and entice gamblers to deposit more and play the games like streamers do, it's to entice gamblers that they can duplicate the streamer's success.

Even if they don't reveal the truth, It's very obvious that there's something wrong in their live streams and vlogs. winning a huge amount of money in a row is really surprising and intrigguing because it didn't happen in real life. it's just a common sense that gambling agency sites have something to do with what's going on, some livestreamers may be using set up accounts.

We can really determine that they are very obvious by their activities done on the live stream like they will not have any doubts to place a huge amount of money on risky bets and that would totally give us an idea that they are not really for real since if a person who bet a huge amount will do all just to make their bet secured and think about something more great to increase their chance to win.

Unlike those streamer which bet without even thinking or doing some counting on how many times they win or lose before they place a huge bet.

For this kind of streamers maybe we should not take them heavily and just treat them as part of entertainment since for sure they will not give anything good to us if we heavily follow what they do since the result will provably different to what they show on screen.

[passwordnow]

We can really determine that they are very obvious by their activities done on the live stream like they will not have any doubts to place a huge amount of money on risky bets and that would totally give us an idea that they are not really for real since if a person who bet a huge amount will do all just to make their bet secured and think about something more great to increase their chance to win.

Those streamers that are doing it for their business and advertisements are fearless when it's about the bets that they're making. They're not going to fear any amount because all of it are provided for them to show to their viewers as if they're actually gambling. But the reality is that they're all doing it for the casino that they're advertising and they have been paid to do that.

Unlike those streamer which bet without even thinking or doing some counting on how many times they win or lose before they place a huge bet.

That's true, those that are not sponsored. They are going to bet fearless as well but they are not committed in doing so because they don't have any affiliation to any casino because all they need to do is to enjoy their own company and to have fun together with their viewers. The interaction from these types of streamers are for real when they see some fans of theirs are staying on their livestream.

For this kind of streamers maybe we should not take them heavily and just treat them as part of entertainment since for sure they will not give anything good to us if we heavily follow what they do since the result will provably different to what they show on screen.

Yeah, anyway both of them just treat it as an entertainment and if you're relying your gambling decisions with them then it means that you have to change. It is what viewers need to take that anything that they can se on the internet sometimes are true but mostly are not true.

[AicecreaME]

Most streamers have paid partnership with the casino they are promoting with. It's most likely that the money they have on their gambling account is purely sponsored by the casino so they can play and showcase what it is like to bet and win more often. It is one of the tricks they have up on their sleeves so that people will be encouraged and be curious about what it feels like when you are the one playing and betting into the platform. Some of those newbies, most likely they will be pushed to deposit and try it themselves because they witnessed how good the winning might be during streams. It's the sole purpose of having those livestreams after all - to gain audience and to gain potential recruit of new players. Additionally, the streamers will likely earn from referral links or codes to be used by the players. So it is a win-win on their end: they get to play without spending a penny, they get paid, they earn from referrals, and they earn from the views generated in streams as well. As a bonus, some players even give them a reward or donation.

This is why it's important to discern a situation properly so you won't be tricked into something you can't commit into. When it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

[Oilacris]

I don't believe that those winnings are paid by the casino intentionally and these guys are using a specific program provided by the gambling site to increase the probability of winning. Since they are partnered with the casino, they will be given a huge bankroll to play with. In gambling, the longer your bankroll lasts, the more chances to win big and that's the reason why paid streamers always win big in their stream.

I also don't believe it,  it will harm the casino's reputation if one streamer comes out and exposes a casino by saying that he is playing on a different platform other than all the gamblers are playing, they might even blackmail the casino to expose that they rigged the game in favor of the streamers.
I will accept the bankroll distribution, it's an open secret and this is to test the platform and entice gamblers to deposit more and play the games like streamers do, it's to entice gamblers that they can duplicate the streamer's success.

Even if they don't reveal the truth, It's very obvious that there's something wrong in their live streams and vlogs. winning a huge amount of money in a row is really surprising and intrigguing because it didn't happen in real life. it's just a common sense that gambling agency sites have something to do with what's going on, some livestreamers may be using set up accounts.

We can really determine that they are very obvious by their activities done on the live stream like they will not have any doubts to place a huge amount of money on risky bets and that would totally give us an idea that they are not really for real since if a person who bet a huge amount will do all just to make their bet secured and think about something more great to increase their chance to win.

Unlike those streamer which bet without even thinking or doing some counting on how many times they win or lose before they place a huge bet.

For this kind of streamers maybe we should not take them heavily and just treat them as part of entertainment since for sure they will not give anything good to us if we heavily follow what they do since the result will provably different to what they show on screen.

When it comes on how they do bet then it is really that obvious that they are really that dont minding on how much they would be spending since  they are really that being funded by the casino itself then it would really be that understandable that you would really be that fascinated or having doubts or questions on how the heck they do really be able to win up on a constant manner or really on high chance? iIf you are that a total noob then you would really be that easily get blinded on whatever things happening on point but if you've been here on this market for a while now
then it would really be raising up those questions if its really that fair or they do really have that kind of advantage.

You would really be thinking that the game might be altered or being fixed to look those streamers/influencers to be that having that good winning rate.
Well, it is really just that an assumption about the probabilities which are actually that a possibility but there's no proof to this.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

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You are watching streamers just like how it was intended which is correct way of doing it. Many people are doubtful because they are venting their stress on their personal losses to streamers that winning and called it unfair while this streamers lose a lot too probably not recorded.

Streamers should be watch for entertainment purposes only and not a role model on gambling because everyone has different result due to luck is random same with the slot games result.

That's why when we watch streamers playing slots, we don't need to take it too seriously. Anything can happen, including what we will experience in gambling games. We can't hope too much to get a big win like the streamer experienced. We are different from those streamers in that we also need to control spending money on gambling. Moreover, we also don't know whether the money used by the streamer is his own money or the money given by the casino so he can make videos of his slot games to attract people to visit his casino.

Yes, agree with you to just watch the streamer without any feelings. We just need to enjoy the slot game without being affected. If other people are affected, let them be because we have to be responsible with the money we use for gambling.

Yeah, but there could be gamblers though that might be swayed and think that they can duplicate the winnings? I remember one thread about it, when someone after watching a stream, decided to try and play the same games and win big. But I do agree that majority of the wins are sometimes look too good to be true, and we don't know if it is rigged or something or the games is very adjusted by the casino themselves to make the win of the streamers or at least his chance to win is huge as compare to the real game wherein it's hard to get a bonus round regardless of what slot games it is. Because we all know what the RTP % is, and obviously, every game is based on pure luck. But if you look at those streamers, it looks like they are very lucky with that casino? So that is something for us to think about when we watch this games even if it is live.

[magneto]

It's certainly an issue in streaming. I think that a lot of people are misled into thinking that winning is as easy as they depict it to be during these streams, but clearly it is not.

I've personally seen streamers flush down 5-6 figures down the drain without batting an eye, and honestly that is just ridiculous. If they are playing with their own money, then fine. But we all know what is happening with these people - they are getting loss back and even worse playing with casino funded money altogether. There have been plenty of videos on this matter on Youtube exposing the behind the scenes.

I know that this is a controversial topic, but I think that it's one that everyone needs to be aware of. Don't go out and blindly trust promoters with an agenda in anything, and that includes in online gambling.

[Gozie51]

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We would know this as casinos say in their terms that playing with fun money does not incur the same level of randomness when playing with real money, which is really code for saying that fun money results to more flashy wins when you really can't win anything. So it's not unlikely that streamers are also getting some similar treatment as they don't play with their own money. This can attract their viewers to deposit and gamble with real money of course, but they'll very rarely get the same results.

Well this is looking like an allegation on casinos and their streamers and also with the free play mode. Like many gamblers have also made some complaints or they believe that there is some variations between playing with real money and free mode.

So that and what you are saying maybe logical but they are still standing as allegations against casinos and that is why when introducing newbies to gambling they should always be advised playing with real money they should bet reasonably and perhaps based on our conclusion to the difference between free mode and real betting, we can also advise them accordingly.

[Strongkored]

This is something I've tried to highlight to my friends that want to get  into gambling, but overall not many people seem to be aware.
What has your experience been? Has this affected you or your friends?

Do you mean person who's tempted to gamble after watching a streamer win a big win? If I'm not mistaken, a few days ago there was a member who made a thread about how he was tempted after watching a streamer and was lucky enough to get a win that was big enough for his size because the amount of money he got would certainly be proportional to the value of his bet.
I'm not someone who likes watching broadcasts from gambling streamers so the opportunity to be tempted by something like that is non-existent, and in fact for gamblers if they are not tempted because of broadcasts from streamers they can be tempted because of other forms of promotion and as long as they still use common sense in playing using money that they can afford to lose will be fine because it could be that the experience of losing money in gambling will give their the awareness to play responsibly.

[aioc]

It's certainly an issue in streaming. I think that a lot of people are misled into thinking that winning is as easy as they depict it to be during these streams, but clearly it is not.

I've personally seen streamers flush down 5-6 figures down the drain without batting an eye, and honestly that is just ridiculous. If they are playing with their own money, then fine. But we all know what is happening with these people - they are getting loss back and even worse playing with casino funded money altogether. There have been plenty of videos on this matter on Youtube exposing the behind the scenes.

I know that this is a controversial topic, but I think that it's one that everyone needs to be aware of. Don't go out and blindly trust promoters with an agenda in anything, and that includes in online gambling.

If you're a newbie in the world of gambling and do not know the facts about the streamer's collaboration with the casinos you will be attracted to deposit money and increase your bankroll by watching how it's easy for streamers to accumulate those big wins, that is why streamers can be considered as one of the top promoters of casinos you can see how they win and how they make it easy, but make no mistakes about it there are also streamers who lose a lot of money, and there are independent streamers who drain a lot of money we have a thread on that and he is trying to expose casinos as rigged.
In the world of gambling if you're a beginner, don't just believe in what you see and how easy to win, or else you will regret it because the house always wins.

[yazher]

most of the streamer is an endorsment ordered by casino to be able to promote their games to more people. these streamers usually play from special accounts provided by the casino platform that makes them likely to win more beating compared to usual players. no need to be surprised that the play history of the streamers is better because it has all been arranged by the casino platform.

I saw more of these fake promotions when I watched reels on Facebook and it seemed like they were just winning like a person who is harvesting fruits from a tree, this should not become anyone's reference to play because this is obviously not true and they are just deceiving the people who are prone to these kinds of advertisement. This is why people shouldn't believe everything they see on the Internet because those fabricators and liars are mostly here and in this kind of platform, there is no stopping them from using every trick in the book just to fool you.

[maydna]

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Yeah, but there could be gamblers though that might be swayed and think that they can duplicate the winnings? I remember one thread about it, when someone after watching a stream, decided to try and play the same games and win big. But I do agree that majority of the wins are sometimes look too good to be true, and we don't know if it is rigged or something or the games is very adjusted by the casino themselves to make the win of the streamers or at least his chance to win is huge as compare to the real game wherein it's hard to get a bonus round regardless of what slot games it is. Because we all know what the RTP % is, and obviously, every game is based on pure luck. But if you look at those streamers, it looks like they are very lucky with that casino? So that is something for us to think about when we watch this games even if it is live.

Yes, there are definitely viewers who are triggered to play slots after they watch the streamer play their favorite slot. Yes, I also read the thread, and he was really lucky to get a big win. Something very rare for many other gamblers is that they decide to play the same slot as the streamer and can win big. We only know that the streamer was really lucky to get a big win, but we don't know what is really behind the slot game. We won't be able to know the truth because we have nothing to do with the streamer. And I agree that slot games require luck, which we have to have so we can win. And depending on whether small or big luck will determine our victory. We also don't need to be triggered by the streamer who managed to win the slot game because each of us has different luck.

[Marvelman]

Yes, multiple ex-streamers have already confirmed that everything was staged and fake, orchestrated by the casino. You wouldn't believe how many people don't realize what's going on behind those paid streams.  The whole thing is sponsored by the casino, who funds the account and  makes those insane winning streaks possible. Those aren't really just dumb luck.  Its like they're playing a different game with special rules.  I think it's worth pointing out, but it doesn't seem like everyone has caught onto this other side of things yet.

It would be great if you have given the link where those ex-streamers exposed and admit that their streams performance are staged.  Probably I have not encounter streamers where their session is staged by the casino itself, since most of streamers I watched are even cursing the slots game they are playing because of their bad session.

I believe there is also some instances where a streamer sponsored by a casino often use a special link where the RTP is way higher than the normal slots game, but to prove such thing is somehow difficult because we do not access on that link and those who are involved on the scripted streams won't tell people about it unless they end up in a not so good relation with the casino they used to work with.

Everything is possible in an online stream, but I would say that not all streamers sponsored by a casino use such dirty method in luring people into gambling.

A while back I read something about this online, but now I can't find the links anymore.  There was some streamer who came out and said they had a deal with a casino.  The casino set up games where the streamer was guaranteed to hit a big win on stream.  Obvious play to get more people watching and 

i don't have the articles anymore, but they talked about how fake streamers get away with stuff like that.  Shady backroom deals to rig games and make it look like they're winning all this money.  Casinos looking for publicity will set up deals where the streamer cant lose.  It gets them views and brings in new players.  Probably not even legal when you think about it.

I dunno, the whole streaming gambling scene seems fake to me.  Some of this is mentioned in these articles:

https://www.ltccasino.com/fake-streamers-exposed
https://www.onlinecasinos.org.uk/articles/slot-streamers.html
https://bagogames.com/dont-fall-for-the-fake-how-streamers-get-paid-to-fake-it/