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November 21, 2023, 01:59:30 AM
Last edit: November 21, 2023, 02:16:31 AM by Mahanton
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?
It cannot be denied that when we experience a loss there will be an urge to bet bigger to cover the previous loss if we win the next bet. But sometimes this works and sometimes this actually makes us experience more losses. But that's only sometimes. Well sometimes I also lose control in this matter. But because it's for fun so sometimes I don't care. Because I only use limited funds. So I can still meet my living needs and can still save and invest. But there are times when I get a big win then I become more greedy and want more so I make a bigger bet. But after I thought about it, it turned out that I always lost control when I was having some problems in my life. So I try to forget it with this.
When we are at loss then the main thing that we would really be having in mind is on how to cope up with those losses or simply trying out to break even or taking it back or simply we are really that chasing losses
and this what makes the situation gotten more worst is that you cant really be able to make yourself that able to control and these what makes things ended up on being messy. Loosing moment is the most
common scenario or condition on which most gamblers would really be that losing off their control. Somewhat it is also that possible when we are really that winning because when greed kicks in then we would be also
losing our control specially with our winning amounts on which you would be enveloped by your greed on which it would really be causing for it for you to play even further.

On the time that you would lose control then you would surely lose. This is why you should really be that careful when it comes on dealing with gambling.
You would really be finding yourself at great trouble and risks if you are really just that too careless on what you are doing.

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November 21, 2023, 02:09:22 AM
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Many gamblers have many trigger point to be honest. But commonly it’s often seen that, after losing a large portion of the bankroll, the gamblers, losses control and go all in with the remaining balance to cover the losses. But at this point of time, they should have slowed a bit and could have analysed to bet further. But this is the time, it is often seen that you bet blindly without thinking the outcome. It’s very hard to control ourselves, when the hard earned money vanishes in seconds.

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November 21, 2023, 02:12:06 AM
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What do you think about it?
I agree with the losing and recouping part because that need for recovery would always put you in the same situation and push you in a greedy way, which is always in favor of the casino. If you can't remove the idea, then it could quickly develop into an addiction and eventually become a problem because most gamblers go through countless losses. The idea of earning endlessly through gambling probably depends because when i'm in that losing situation, I usually expect the worst from my next set of bets.

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November 21, 2023, 02:19:58 AM
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Most gamblers are often trapped in a situation like that where when they lose they tend to play again to recover their losses and not think about their money. The result is predictable that most of them end up losing and more extreme they become bankrupt and sell all their assets.
That's why it's important to be a responsible gambler who can understand their condition and not lose control when they lose.

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November 21, 2023, 02:39:48 AM
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.
I agree with what's said above, but a lose too can trigger one to get hooked as some people just hate losing and this could lead to chasing losses and probably break your bank .

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?
Agreed!

Gambling is honestly complicated, you win you feel like you can make this money a million times and get rich  Tongue You lose you are out to get your money back because you think you will change strategy and this time get the Casinos and make a profit too... gambling is Soo hard!!

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November 21, 2023, 02:46:39 AM
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When does the moment come when the gambler loses control? My answer is after winning big just like yours after winning big and you had to loose even only once sometimes it triggers you to do more and more.

Or it will be heavily triggered if you have a lose streak never had single win and your budget for gambling is almost empty. I think this happens to everyone too

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Irresponsible gamblers only have money, money and money in their heads, the aim of gambling is only one, namely winning to make money. Gambling is not a scheme to make money easily, there are always challenges in it. They will play casually when they have a big win, but will lose control when they lose their money. Gamblers will be addicted when they win big, while when they lose continuously, it is called losing control because there is a desire to win more to recover the losses they have spent.

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November 21, 2023, 03:20:07 AM
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What do you think about it?

Well, I think both when a gambler starts losing and winning. Simply because humans are forever discontented, one could make a huge win, but because he wanted more he thinks he could win everything or at least add a little more to what he already has, so he will continue gambling. That's losing control their, losing control of the moment that he could have left the casino because that was one of the few moments where he coped up with the loses he made since day 1 of his gambling.
While the other who loses everything, is obviously the ones who's gonna be a mess up, a total lose of control. He wouldn't have ended up in that situation if has not lost control along the way.

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When does the moment come when the gambler loses control? My answer is after winning big just like yours after winning big and you had to loose even only once sometimes it triggers you to do more and more.
That's one of the answers because this question is an open ended sort of question, someone can lose control when they are also losing and still continue play not paying attention to the idea of losing more money than they should at that session. Another moment of losing control is being mad or hysterically angry at the game because you tell yourself and believe that the game isn't giving you any break or that the game is purposefully making you lose which is kind of stupid if you finally calm down but during that hysterical moment of losing of control, that seems to be the right thing. Another moment of losing control is thinking that everything's out to get you and that all the games in the casino is rigged when you are losing.



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Irrational behavior can happen after losing or winning. Our judgement is affected whenever we face extreme emotions. The euphoria from winning big may cause us to think that we've uncovered a genius strategy that is going to make us rich.

Similarly, when we suffer a great loss we will feel desperation and attempt to gain back what we have lost. It is even possible to feel both extremes during the same betting session — going from agony to enthusiasm and vice versa.

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I think both are possible reasons to make the gambler lose control but thats is not always the case. Not everyone who wins big or losses big, losses control. Some choose to stay in control of the game and just enjoy it. Let us not hope for the worst.
Anyway, you see when some wins big, it creates overconfidence to win consistently that makes gambler hope that it can happen once again, that it is their time with luck. Then a significant loss can be emotionally distressing. The desire to regain what was lost then disappointment can drive compulsive behavior. Gamblers may think they can recover their losses and return to the previous state of success. Thats why I always think that regardless if it is a big win or loss, gamblers should learn to pause. Its our mind and emotions that pushes us to decide impulsively.


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There are many ways to lose control of gambling. I believe most of it is when people want to regain their losses. And once they continue to lose beyond budget, that is when the real problem starts. Spending money outside of the regular budget or in a worst-case scenario is to borrow money from someone with interest. Imagine losing all the money borrowed with interest. It's either the borrower becomes paranoid or it becomes shameless prolonging the payment or even not paying it.

This is why it is so important for people to stick with their betting budget before starting. Also, there should be a time limit to avoid getting addicted.

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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?
Both assumptions are correct because people could react to wins and losses differently. Inexperienced gamblers who win big in their early days in gambling might assume that it is easy to win. This might make them depend on gambling wins to meet their needs because of the assumption that they can easily win. The other assumption is called loss chasing. This behavior is fueled by the feeling that you will recover your losses if you keep playing. But this is not always the case because playing more games doesn't guarantee more wins. Taking a break after constant loss is advisable and following a gambling budget is ideal.

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It comes with both times of winning and losing. That is the reason why we think that we are good enough and wanted to go for more when we win. You can see the confidence for each of us when the time comes at that point.

And when we are losing, it is also the same. Because like the always talk we do about chasing our losses, that is how it is. The reason why we do not give up when we loss because we think that we can be so much better and will have a better result if we do for a couple more plays.

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November 21, 2023, 11:21:21 AM
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When does the moment come when the gambler loses control? My answer is after winning big just like yours after winning big and you had to loose even only once sometimes it triggers you to do more and more.

Or it will be heavily triggered if you have a lose streak never had single win and your budget for gambling is almost empty. I think this happens to everyone too
That's the main reason why gamblers loses their control, because they always think about the money they've spent, tendency to lose their control because they don't know how to reclaim their loses in gambling, especially if they have no money left in their bankrolls. Losing a large bet should be a sign to stop playing but some gamblers still continue to bet even they've lost so much money and I think they don't know when to stop even if they already build a self limitation and budget. Sometimes gamblers experiencing post-loss speeding, wherein they place a bet quicker after the loss out of frustration from losing the game which results to them to become more impulsive. So instead of becoming more cautious, they become reckless about their spending habits in gambling.



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November 21, 2023, 11:48:58 AM
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Both factors affect gamblers.

Loses is the worst of it IMO. If a gambler is winning most likely he may keep winning and even if he has lost control and start betting higher then it is to his advantage because he keeps making money. Moreover if he later start to lose, he is likely to run off with the remaining profit with him, at this stage he has the control to guide himself but not when he is losing. Losing in gambling makes you take even more wrong decisions because you want to either try other pattern to see if you will be lucky which is significant of the confirmation that you have lost control.

So someone who is winning his bet is likely not to change his system indicative of being in control but a losing person continuously changes system, indicative of losing control.

How many times do you think a person would continue winning his bets in a role without losing. That's where the win and lose syndrome comes to play with the instinct of the gambler. In a situation where he wins and along the line loses then wins again. Would he have the self control to stop playing and go home. It's like a more interesting day. And along the line the system begin to bring losses to him. The decision he takes during this period can determine the outcome of what would be his gambling experience that day; joy or sadness. As it's rare to just win consecutively without losing. But, players can lose consecutively, without having any win. In such a situation, then I'd agree with you, because he'll gamble more to see a win. And he'll greedily expect to see a big win. Most times the house would trick him by giving him a big win equivalent to all he's lost that day. At that moment if the player has strong self control, he can stop and try next time. But, because he believes winning follows after winning, he'll continue playing with same thoughts that before his bank roll exhausts he'll get a bigger win. There the house can sweep all the funds leaving him with nothing. In my previous response, you'd notice that even if the winner doesn't have the self discipline to stop, he'll blow it up and end up playing like he's been losing. That's why I'd suggest that both factors are alike and we must not be carried away by one more than the other. Although losing can be worst than winning, in taking decisions. Yet it still depends on the player.

Yes you have well buttressed my point about the advantage of having a winning more than losses or having a winning in the beginning. My point is if you have winning you can keep playing until you realized the losses have started coming and it is a chronic addict that would not run off with the little balance remaining. If I'm in such shoes of course I will take the decision to stop at the moment and wait to continue next time because I will also consider using the winning as a bankroll for the next time I will try. Anyway, for an addict, some of these reasoning may not matter.

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November 21, 2023, 11:51:36 AM
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I think both are possible reasons to make the gambler lose control but thats is not always the case. Not everyone who wins big or losses big, losses control. Some choose to stay in control of the game and just enjoy it. Let us not hope for the worst.
Anyway, you see when some wins big, it creates overconfidence to win consistently that makes gambler hope that it can happen once again, that it is their time with luck. Then a significant loss can be emotionally distressing. The desire to regain what was lost then disappointment can drive compulsive behavior. Gamblers may think they can recover their losses and return to the previous state of success. Thats why I always think that regardless if it is a big win or loss, gamblers should learn to pause. Its our mind and emotions that pushes us to decide impulsively.


You've made a remarkable point, about staying in control. While gambling, the gambler holds full culpability on their decision. Whether to lose control or not. The demoralizing factor is their emotions on the results of other gamblers. Failing to acknowledge the individual difference in gambling experience, leads gamblers to choose a wrong route in decision making. A player that possesses critical thinking, has better advantage over others who don't. Continuously, playing games due to the outcome of another gambler's bet, restructures the self control of the gambler to think he deserves to win, like everyone else. If he is in control, what matters to others won't be meaningful to him. Hence, he'll move ahead with his conclusion of hitting the exit button. Notwithstanding the success of the player next to him. Healthy thoughts, facilitates in minimizing loss of control as gamblers. As the brain would keep reminding us of the repercussion of trying again; running broke. Which brings forth anxiety. When we win, it's superb and worth celebrating with more trial, to see if it's our most lucky day. But, the opposite may surface as a result. Then, our thoughts should also go to the opposite side. Gambling is a game of mind. Refusing to respect our instinct, is wrong, mainly in gambling. The possibility of experiencing a simultaneous win, isn't one in gambling. When a player wins twice or thrice in a roll, it's a trap. Though we call it luck. But, when the losses starts appearing, withdrawing from the initial happiness easily is very hard. The player wants to hit another joy again and again. Here, he'd lose all his wins, trying to regain the money he lost. What stopped him from stopping, needs to be studied.

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But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?

People a person commit to a thing they already know the risk, only dumb people will make a risk to things they don't know the possible outcome if this will become a win-win to their situation or at least to have a chance to get more of what they invested, they already know the possible risk and of course no matter what happen higher chance that the gambler still will play, imagine if the player wins the game for sure they will expect more because they experience the taste of winning, and other side is the person lose already and want to take the money and possible it will return with the first option this cycle will not break until the gambler realize they already addicted and make themselves back and control with this kind of activity.

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November 21, 2023, 01:41:55 PM
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The biggest addiction in gambling can occur when he experiences loss because, with that loss, he wants to recover his losses by continuing to gamble. If only he could think that continuing to gamble would not allow him to recover his losses and could actually result in greater losses. He must be able to overcome his disappointment so that he does not have the desire to continue gambling, which could result in even greater losses. But the reality is that there are still many people who rely on gambling to make money, even when they experience large losses. They still want to recover their losses and that makes them addicted to gambling.

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November 21, 2023, 02:01:00 PM
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The biggest mistake gamblers make is trying to recover their losses, that's why many end up becoming addicted, even though it is clear that addiction is very difficult to cure, that's why many experienced gamblers on this forum are always reminded to control themselves when gambling, don't gamble outside the limits so that they become Gambling addicted, gamblers who have experienced a lot of losses should not hope that they can be restored to normal.

You should limit your budget from the start so that you don't exceed your gambling limits so you can still control it well. but if you already realize that you are addicted, you should reduce your gambling activities because if you continue gambling it will get worse, don't become a gambler who loses control because that will drain all the money we have, play wisely because addiction comes from greedy behavior.

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