Who is digaran Bitcointalk? (AI)

[Poker Player]

So, I asked bing AI the question and it answered like this:

Digaran is a user on the Bitcoin Forum, a platform for discussion and news about Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. Digaran has been a member since March 18, 2016 and has posted more than 5,000 messages on various topics. Digaran is also known for being a troll and a controversial figure on the forum, often provoking other users with his opinions and arguments. Some of his posts have been deleted or moved by the moderators for violating the forum rules. Digaran's current avatar is a picture of a masked man holding a gun and a sign that says "[banned mixer]", which is a service that claims to provide privacy by mixing Bitcoin transactions with Monero. You can find more information about Digaran by visiting his profile⁴ or reading his latest posts.

Source: Conversation with Bing, 22/11/2023
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(2) digaran is an alt of... - Bitcoin Forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4456384.
(3) View the profile of digaran - Bitcoin Forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=806776.
(4) Latest posts of: digaran - Bitcoin Forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=806776;sa=showPosts.

Then I had the pre stated option of asking about why he is controversial, so I chose to ask it and this is the awnswer:

Digaran is controversial because he has been involved in several conflicts and disputes with other users on the Bitcoin Forum. Some of the reasons why Digaran is controversial are:

- He has been accused of being a troll and a scammer by many users, who claim that he posts misleading or false information, insults or harasses other members, and tries to manipulate the forum for his own benefit¹²³.
- He has been given negative trust ratings by several reputable users, who warn others not to trust or deal with him. Some of these ratings are based on his alleged involvement in blackmailing, extorting, or threatening other users for money or merit²³.
- He has been banned or suspended from the forum multiple times for violating the forum rules, such as spamming, plagiarizing, or posting low-quality content. He has also been reported to the moderators or the admin for his abusive or disruptive behavior¹²³.
- He has expressed controversial or unpopular opinions on various topics, such as politics, religion, or cryptography, which have sparked heated debates or arguments with other users. He has also challenged or criticized some of the established or respected members of the forum, such as developers, merit sources, or staff¹²³.

These are some of the reasons why Digaran is controversial, but there may be more that I am not aware of. You can find more information about Digaran by visiting his profile⁴ or reading his latest posts.

Source: Conversation with Bing, 22/11/2023
(1) Latest posts of: digaran - Bitcoin Forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=806776;sa=showPosts.
(2) Merit Source @digaran has gone too far - Bitcoin Forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3283912.0.
(3) Merit Source @digaran has gone too far - Bitcoin Forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3283912.60.
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Do you think this is a good summary of this troll? I use practically every day the AI in my daily life and I can see that in some aspects it has to improve, so I don't trust it to be 100% accurate, but it seems a pretty good summary, and it has made me understand some things, for example, from the last links quoted, I see that he was a merit source, and that he was probably removed, so I understand better that he opens stupid threads like this one:

Petition for 1miau to be removed as a merit source!

[nutildah]

Do you think this is a good summary of this troll?

Uh... I have a hard time believing this is real. Bing AI actually called somebody a troll? Seems like they would steer clear of doing anything that could potentially result in a defamation lawsuit against them, or even say anything bad about people. I asked it the same thing and it returned a totally different answer:

Digaran is a user on the Bitcoin Forum. They are involved in discussions about Bitcoin puzzles and cryptographic key cracking. They have contributed to topics such as “Pollard’s kangaroo ECDLP solver” and “Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it”. Please note that this information is based on the search results and may not fully represent the user’s activities or interests.

Can anyone else confirm it says "Digaran is known for being a troll"? Here is the website:

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Bing+AI&showconv=1

[Oshosondy]

Digaran's current avatar is a picture of a masked man holding a gun and a sign that says "[banned mixer]",

Is this true? Dagaran avatar is also mixoro avatar, not holding a gun.

- He has been banned or suspended from the forum multiple times for violating the forum rules, such as spamming, plagiarizing, or posting low-quality content. He has also been reported to the moderators or the admin for his abusive or disruptive behavior¹²³

Is this true? Can anyone let us know. I do not know if dagaran has been banned before.

I think the AI concluded that from his trust history.

[BenCodie]

Digaran's current avatar is a picture of a masked man holding a gun and a sign that says "[banned mixer]",

Is this true? Dagaran avatar is also mixoro avatar, not holding a gun.

- He has been banned or suspended from the forum multiple times for violating the forum rules, such as spamming, plagiarizing, or posting low-quality content. He has also been reported to the moderators or the admin for his abusive or disruptive behavior¹²³

Is this true? Can anyone let us know. I do not know if dagaran has been banned before.

I think the AI concluded that from his trust history.

AI engines are frequently incorrect. If you use other free ai services and ask it for information, or ask it to do certain things,, you will find that sometimes it is inaccurate and sometimes, completely wrong.

The perfect example is the mixero avatar description.

Do you think this is a good summary of this troll?

Uh... I have a hard time believing this is real. Bing AI actually called somebody a troll? Seems like they would steer clear of doing anything that could potentially result in a defamation lawsuit against them, or even say anything bad about people. I asked it the same thing and it returned a totally different answer:

Digaran is a user on the Bitcoin Forum. They are involved in discussions about Bitcoin puzzles and cryptographic key cracking. They have contributed to topics such as “Pollard’s kangaroo ECDLP solver” and “Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it”. Please note that this information is based on the search results and may not fully represent the user’s activities or interests.

Can anyone else confirm it says "Digaran is known for being a troll"? Here is the website:

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Bing+AI&showconv=1

I don't use Microsoft services, and try to avoid feeding ai...I will curiously wait until anyone tries this.
Just in case,: https://web.archive.org/web/20231122065753/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5475000.0

[digaran]

😭, I apologize for the confusion, here is the correct answer:
Now we know why people keep repeating the same thing, they are either AI or ask AI to write something about me, I'm disappointed in her, me and AI were close friends, this shows we can't trust anyone coming to our lives.
For a second I thought I'm isis for holding a gun in a mask, well now we know where the medias get their information from. 😅
I'm pretty sure I can sue the AI company for such defamation and spreading lies, or even the OP for the same reasons if he fails to prove the content of the OP was generated by an AI.
But in this community? I don't think anyone cares, actually some people are doing it over and over without ever facing any consequences.
I sincerely apologize for calling developers pat and mat and incompetent, When fees go up and dust spam is damaging the image of Bitcoin in the eyes of the world, I lose my temper.
*We should not criticize any one, the best way to go is to learn from Japanese, they have this habit, when they want to show their respect, they bow down.

But in my opinion *we should kneel, it's called advancing, the next stage of our evolution is being on our face kissing boots. Because that's what happens if you stop criticizing.
**= Never.
Long live the revolution, decentralizing the justice system= Bitcointalk reputation board.
Decentralizing doesn't work for everything, there should be mechanisms in place to prevent people like OP to reach any where near the chair which is a sacred place for judges, which is one of the most difficult jobs in the world to be a judge.

EDIT :

Alright, I mean I know every one thinks I'm a troll, but I will say this no matter what, even if it's deleted.

@Poker Player, did you honestly used this topic on me as your resume to then bump this thread and show people that you are up for the task?


I suspect a few members to be your alt on puzzle thread, because I just read your post on meta and it seemed very familiar especially the insulting part. This is bad, don't be like that, there is no future in such businesses.
So now I get how people weasel their way into DT, literally anyone could be a DT, what happened to this community, back then we could directly blame admin, now we need to go against a group of either alts or buddy-alt combined and get no where at the end.

I thought of bumping this thread because I was thinking after the last update of http://loyce.club/trust/ that now I think I meet the requirements, and I see that, indeed, according to what was exposed in the OP if I would meet them to enter the lottery of DT1, and as I see in http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/ I am there.

Not really too bothered, more curious, I guess it was only logical that it would eventually enter the lottery. With more time on the forum, if you do things right, more people will include you. Kind of more responsibility I think because if you become DT1 and you have someone on your trust list and only you have them, their feedbacks become visible only thanks to you.

Thanks for another useful thread LoyceV.

You are sure there bud, just hang in there bud. Just look at the time on both posts.  I can tell you already your application for DT1 is approved. Welcome to the party.

[NotATether]

Uh... I have a hard time believing this is real. Bing AI actually called somebody a troll? Seems like they would steer clear of doing anything that could potentially result in a defamation lawsuit against them, or even say anything bad about people. I asked it the same thing and it returned a totally different answer:

I remember Microsoft had to apologize and fix up its AI after it told some journalist to leave his wife and copulate with Bing, so yeah I don't see Microsoft even remotely wanting to push any buttons related to name-calling inside Bing Chat.

[SamReomo]

I remember Microsoft had to apologize and fix up its AI after it told some journalist to leave his wife and copulate with Bing, so yeah I don't see Microsoft even remotely wanting to push any buttons related to name-calling inside Bing Chat.

Those AI's are still pretty new and it will take them years to get mature enough to produce valuable information. In their current state most of the information they produce is wrong and I would call it misinformation. I'm sure that in future they may get some improvements and maybe somewhat useful for some tasks but I still believe that the information they produce is inaccurate and should not be treated as valuable information.

[Poker Player]

Uh... I have a hard time believing this is real. Bing AI actually called somebody a troll?

Yes it did.

Seems like they would steer clear of doing anything that could potentially result in a defamation lawsuit against them,

Hey nutildah, I know that in the USA people go to court for anything but in Europe a defamation lawsuit applies to known people. A defamation lawsuit about a nickname in a forum is not even allowed to proceed.

I asked it the same thing and it returned a totally different answer:

AIs give different answers, and if you look at bing AI, like others, when it gives you the answer, it gives you 1/10, so if you don't like that answer it has 9 other possible answers for you. I have asked him again and he does not give me the same answer as yesterday.

Digaran is a user on the Bitcoin Forum, a platform for discussion and news about Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. Digaran has been a member of the forum since March 18, 2016, and has posted more than 5,000 messages. Digaran is a Copper Member and has received 818 merit points from other users. Digaran's Bitcoin address is bc1q9mfdla32fuut57hnwgev2e7f9c8zpvsadzmhtm¹.

Digaran is known for being a controversial and provocative poster, often expressing opinions that are unpopular or critical of the forum administration, moderators, and other users. Digaran has been accused of being a troll, a scammer, and an alt account of other users, such as Pirateat40². Digaran has also been involved in several disputes and conflicts with other users, such as Quickseller, Timelord, and Lauda. Digaran has been banned from the forum several times, but has always returned with a new account or after the ban expired.

Digaran's posts cover a wide range of topics, such as Bitcoin, altcoins, mining, trading, gambling, reputation, politics, religion, philosophy, and personal issues. Digaran often uses colorful and sarcastic language, emojis, and ASCII art in his posts. Digaran also claims to be a supporter of Mixero, a service that provides privacy by using Monero as a bridge between Bitcoin transactions¹.

Source: Conversation with Bing, 23/11/2023
(1) View the profile of digaran - Bitcoin Forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=806776.
(2) digaran is an alt of... - Bitcoin Forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4456384.
(3) Latest posts of: digaran - Bitcoin Forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=806776;sa=showPosts.
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Is this true? Dagaran avatar is also mixoro avatar, not holding a gun.

That's not true. I don't know where the AI got that from.

~snip

Deep down you're even funny. You are like proudhon, but he doesn't come to the forum as much.

[nutildah]

Uh... I have a hard time believing this is real. Bing AI actually called somebody a troll?

Yes it did.

I still highly doubt it. Even if it did, why would you start a topic about it? This belongs in Off-Topic if anywhere at all.

Hey nutildah, I know that in the USA people go to court for anything but in Europe a defamation lawsuit applies to known people. A defamation lawsuit about a nickname in a forum is not even allowed to proceed.

Mmmhmm... And where do you think Microsoft has its headquarters?

This is the stupidest topic I've seen posted in this section in a long time, and the bar is already quite low. Hope this doesn't start some kind of IQ-lowering precedent.

[digaran]

Bla bla bla
Pirateat40²
Quickseller, Timelord, and Lauda.
Bla bla bla as much.

[Poker Player]

I still highly doubt it.

Well, I'm not going to try hard to convince you.

Even if it did, why would you start a topic about it?

Because the objective was not so much to talk about IA as about digaran's reputation. 

This is the stupidest topic I've seen posted in this section in a long time, and the bar is already quite low.

I would be grateful if you would spare me such adjectives, I will spare myself them on your comments.

This belongs in Off-Topic if anywhere at all.

You are right, my intention was to talk about digaran's reputation, but it has become off-topic. I've moved it mysefl.

Hope this doesn't start some kind of IQ-lowering precedent.

I will spare you the comment.

Mmmhmm... And where do you think Microsoft has its headquarters?

I find it hard to believe that even in the USA a defamation suit for calling an anonymous forum nickname a troll is admissible.

 

[digaran]

I know it's difficult to understand, but negative tags that I got are for the following reasons:

Trying to suggest the implementation of "mandatory community services"

Trying to advocate on behalf of wrongfully accused members in reputation related cases for a fee.

If you can show me any written law, internationally accepted that what I did is considered scamming, I will admit to be a scammer, but if you can't, you or anybody else repeating the same baseless accusations warrants a negative trust for defamation IMO.

[Poker Player]

I know it's difficult to understand, but negative tags that I got are for the following reasons:

Trying to suggest the implementation of "mandatory community services"

Trying to advocate on behalf of wrongfully accused members in reputation related cases for a fee.

If you can show me any written law, internationally accepted that what I did is considered scamming, I will admit to be a scammer, but if you can't, you or anybody else repeating the same baseless accusations warrants a negative trust for defamation IMO.

So, would you like me to move the thread back to the Reputation section so we can talk about those issues? Although I think it will be better to open a new one because in this one people would be still too much focused on AI.

[digaran]

So, would you like me to move the thread back to the Reputation section so we can talk about those issues? Although I think it will be better to open a new one because in this one people would be still too much focused on AI.

It's been 5 years, I can't go against theymos since he "respects" suchmoon. Besides I have got over it.  Imagine you commit a sin and your sin walks in front of you every day, wrongful accusation = sin, my trust score is their sin every time someone clicks on my profile or I post in trust enabled sections. Why should I want to lift the weight of their sins? Already tried it, didn't work out.

But Jollygood and DaveF? Sure I already have topics on them locked for time being. Will deal with them accordingly because it's the least of my rights as a human being to defend myself.


Ok I just read that part that says I was banned several times and always returned with a different account, lol how does the AI know I was back but nobody else knew? 🤣
This idiot of an AI is just repeating what others speculated.

[BenCodie]

I have to say, I laughed after I saw this thread being moved to off topic.

Great example of someone trying to make the "cool kids" that don't like digaran laugh, and then walking away with a tail between their legs when it backfired by moving the topic to an irrelevant board

Rare, classical comedy.

[BabyBandit]

Uh... I have a hard time believing this is real. Bing AI actually called somebody a troll?

Yes it did.

I still highly doubt it. Even if it did, why would you start a topic about it? This belongs in Off-Topic if anywhere at all.

Hey nutildah, I know that in the USA people go to court for anything but in Europe a defamation lawsuit applies to known people. A defamation lawsuit about a nickname in a forum is not even allowed to proceed.

Mmmhmm... And where do you think Microsoft has its headquarters?

This is the stupidest topic I've seen posted in this section in a long time, and the bar is already quite low. Hope this doesn't start some kind of IQ-lowering precedent.

This is not real, just a childish behavior from OP. Was myself very surprised when I saw it to. The most ironic thing is that everyone calling Digaran a troll but creating a thread like this is a prime example of terrible bad trolling.
Makes zero sense, not even fun.

[digaran]

The AI does not produce any intelligent response, it uses all the available data as it's source, then summarizes them into a reply. I can't say it's inaccurate, actually everything posted on OP has been said already by some people. Though the analyzing of the data is wrong.

OP however is totally wrong about the last part of his post, yes I was a source for month but a few of trolls pushed my buttons so much that I couldn't think straight and asked admin to remove me as a source.  Now I see people are killing over such position, one example is jollygood, which I have already pointed out why he tagged me. In my thread on him.
After recent developments regarding 1miau, by seeing so many people keep calling me troll and harasser of innocent DTs, I believe they can't understand anything on their own, as if they have been brainwashed into thinking when a DT Member says something it must be true.

I mean look at jollygood, he must actually believe what he has done is the right thing, right? Otherwise why would he risk losing his status by wrongfully accusing me? So if and when his time comes, if he feels confident enough to not take any necessary actions, could mean that he thinks he is untouchable and that nobody would take my side.

Without realizing it's not about taking a side, it's about the reason. I really hope it doesn't reach a point where I have to confront his DT  voters such as nutildah, I really respect and like him, and I'm afraid JG is counting on the influence of his supporters. Not to mention nutildah told me a month ago that he thinks the tag wasn't right. Let us hope people can actually change. Otherwise the world will never be that place which we are trying to turn it in to.