unnecessarily quoting by members of the forum.

[Hatchy]

Since joining this forum, I've always been keen on learning new things from the more experienced members. This approach has taken me a long way. learning from them the right way on how to navigate the forum.

Along the way, I've noticed that some members might not be learning the correct way to do various activities on the forum, particularly when it comes to quoting. Some members struggle to understand the proper way to quote, often making the mistake of quoting the wrong person. The forum's quote button is designed to mention the specific member you've added to your quote. I've come across many discussions on how to quote properly to avoid mistakes like this.



However, some members keep making the same mistake repeatedly and have chosen not to learn. For those using the Telegram bot, this can be annoying when you're mentioned unnecessarily, and keep getting notifications even if you're not involved in the current discussion. I personally urge all members, not just the newbies but also those who are guilty of this, to stop and learn the proper way to quote a post. This will not only remove you from the list of annoying members for others but also improve the quality of your posts. There are many ways to quote a lengthy thread without repeating everything in your reply. Simply edit your post and remove the users you aren't referring to.

you can as well read in these few thread that have been created to teach members, on how to quote properly. let's all learn the right thing today and act in an organized manner.
[Tips] Posting technique

[TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies)

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[Findingnemo]

Most likely they are mobile users who are too lazy to edit the part they want to bring into the discussion, just go on and quote the whole unnecessary discussions and it is a sign of spam too in my opinion but as far as I know, these nested quotes are not against the forum rules so they won't be deleted even if we report them but if the campaign managers pay attention then those users with low-quality posts can be denied towards paid post then we will see the changes in their actions.

[DYING_S0UL]

It's called pyramid quoting. Its very common for newbies. Even me, lol. I used to but I don't now. I don't see this much in the global section. But you'll find it widely on local sections. If you wanna reply cleanly to multiple person you should follow a basic rule. For example, I'll show below.

Person1=hello, I am newbie.

Welcome to bitcointalk newbie.

Person2=hello, good morning.

Good morning user.

Person3=Are you fine, sir?

Yes I am.

And so on.... I think this is the right format to reply multiple person in one single comment.

[Amphenomenon]

Most likely they are mobile users who are too lazy to edit the part they want to bring into the discussion, just go on and quote the whole unnecessary discussions and it is a sign of spam too in my opinion but as far as I know, these nested quotes are not against the forum rules so they won't be deleted even if we report them but if the campaign managers pay attention then those users with low-quality posts can be denied towards paid post then we will see the changes in their actions.

  it's still actually annoying, currently I mainly log in on my phone but that doesn't withhold me for trying to do something properly. It may be that they don't really know how annoying it is or they are just doing it just to complete their weekly post for their campaign.

[knowngunman]

Well, I don't know where exactly this your post is focusing on honesty. Is it about nested/pyramid qoute or about telegram notification? I don't see anything big here because if it's the former, although Forum discourage it but it's not completely against Forum rules and if it is the later, I would advise you to simply ignore the notification if you are not interested in the discussion. Normally, you don't respond to every post you are quoted. Besides, this act is mostly common in gambling section and if you notice, most of these quotes are some how connected.

Sometimes, it's not about laziness to qoute differently but instead of quoting differently and respond to each with either one line or just a single word, they qoute altogether and summarize their comments under. One important thing to note here is that, newbies are not too fond of doing this but well established members and you can not say they don't know how to qoute properly.

[Hamza2424]

Hmm, Is there any problem with the multi-quotes except the bot notifications, I've seen mostly people making such posts in the gambling discussion sections and mostly in WO, and Pyramid Quotes as far I know in the local section moderators & users themselves realize their annoying nature.

These are just low-energy actions a maximum of times, the more annoying posts than a Pyramid quoted post is a full quote and comment on a specific point in the whole length of the post, due to the unclear context of the quote it's really troublesome to respond again, mostly newbies make such posts due to unclear quoting method. Still, I'm sure it's not frequent in nature, rarely in a week or month you'll face it.

[LTU_btc]

Some people just will never learn and probably they don't even want to learn. When I joined Bitcointalk 8 years ago, things looked same like in your image and not much has changed in all these years. And it's not just newbies, so many old members are doing same. Many people are too lazy and ignorant to remove irrevelant parts of quote. There is also part about SMF being old - I saw some other forums where it's physically impossible to make such huge quotes - you only can make quote of one post, not 5, 10 or 20.
And yeah, there is good point about Telegram bot notifications - it's really annoying when your name is getting mentione in discussion where you don't participate.
BTW, such pyramid quotes is a thing just on Bitcointalk. I saw it on other forums where people aren't getting paid from signature campaigns.

[Renampun]

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However, some members keep making the same mistake repeatedly and have chosen not to learn. For those using the Telegram bot, this can be annoying when you're mentioned unnecessarily, and keep getting notifications even if you're not involved in the current discussion. I personally urge all members, not just the newbies but also those who are guilty of this, to stop and learn the proper way to quote a post. This will not only remove you from the list of annoying members for others but also improve the quality of your posts. There are many ways to quote a lengthy thread without repeating everything in your reply. Simply edit your post and remove the users you aren't referring to.

you can as well read in these few thread that have been created to teach members, on how to quote properly. let's all learn the right thing today and act in an organized manner.
[Tips] Posting technique

[TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies)

It's very annoying when I see members' posts that "quote" quite long, while I always cut off parts that I think are already long, I see quite a lot of senior members who don't want to change this habit, they seem to feel that what they are doing that's right, however, quoting at length only disturbs the discussion. Just quote the part that interests you and you think is important, not all of it, let's discuss it regularly.

[ZAINmalik75]

It's called pyramid quoting. Its very common for newbies. Even me, lol. I used to but I don't now. I don't see this much in the global section. But you'll find it widely on local sections. If you wanna reply cleanly to multiple person you should follow a basic rule. For example, I'll show below.

According to the OP post, he already knew it was a pyramid post, which is prohibited in the forum, and you are posting like he doesn't know what a pyramid quote is and we should avoid it. And we really don't have to see this in global sections because the rules are strictly obeyed there, and consistently making pyramid quotations can cause trouble.

Still, I'm sure it's not frequent in nature, rarely in a week or month you'll face it.

It does not matter if this case is rare or not; the forum has prohibited the use of PayPal quotes, so it is better for everyone to avoid unnecessary quotations. I also used to do this, but from the time I learned about it, I tried not to do it. If I have to, I prefer to write names, but in most cases, I don't have to, and that's where I agree with you because if I have to use it rarely, then you are 100 percent sure that it's not frequent, and it's been proven.

Other than Pyramid quoting, unnecessary calling is also annoying. For example,  if a person makes a post and calls your name in it, and another person tries to reply to that post, including your username, it will give you a notification of a quotation while the person replying to that quote is not talking to you.

[348Judah]

I think if you're making a quote during a particular discussion, you should be specific on what you're quoting, multi quoting is not that being professional except if you pick out the different aspects of the posts you're quoting to speak on each seperately, maybe lately am beginning to see the reason why mega threads posts are not allowed in some cases because they are old and long time existing threads almost everything had been discussed about the subject matter and other comments may not carry very important idea anymore as when it all started.

[Nheer]

you can as well read in these few thread that have been created to teach members, on how to quote properly. let's all learn the right thing today and act in an organized manner.
[Tips] Posting technique

[TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies)

Pyramid posting isn't against the forum rules, in my opinion, and there are situations when comments must be made in that style so that everyone can see and read the messages being replied to, much like on lending board. However, newcomers misuse the system excessively because they constantly neglect stuff. They are always told to read before posting, but they ignore this advice and post without fully understanding the forum, which leads to wrong actions. The funniest part of it all is seeing a very short post carrying a long pyramid on it’s head which they could’ve just quote the sentence that is to be replied. OP you did a good thing sharing these tips with us so newbies and those who don’t properly understand how to quote will learn from them. Pyramid quotes should be avoided where not necessary.

Most likely they are mobile users who are too lazy to edit the part they want to bring into the discussion, just go on and quote the whole unnecessary discussions and it is a sign of spam too in my opinion

I don't even bother reading these articles because it's obvious from the first glance that they are spam, especially when they are from beginners. I disagree that mobile users make up the majority of pyramid posts because, as someone who uses a phone for posting, I too am aware that pyramid posting is not ideal and I don't quote every single thread that someone posts. Mobile users who know how to quote properly are not lazy to trim their quotes. If you are not knowledgeable about how to properly make quotes you will definitely end up making pyramid post regardless of the device you use so laziness does not come with a particular device and even PC users can become lazy and make pyramid posts.

t's still actually annoying, currently I mainly log in on my phone but that doesn't withhold me for trying to do something properly. It may be that they don't really know how annoying it is or they are just doing it just to complete their weekly post for their campaign.

I choose to ignore such postings because I am more interested in well-posted content, and pyramid posts tend to be crowded with information that makes it challenging to understand what is being said and whose quote I am currently reading. I appreciate the OP's effort in creating this thread to discourage it, but it is really bothersome. All I'm hoping for is that newbies would start reading before they post so they may find this and other related posts and gain knowledge from them. People should quit publishing in this manner since, as far as I'm concerned, I'm not the only one who ignores most pyramid posts that are actually useless.

[sokani]

Thanks for bringing this up. Like you said, it's not the first time a complaint like this has been made but let's hope your little shout can make a huge difference. I think it's not the newbies alone that are guilty of such practices, sadly it something that's done by all the ranking members on the forum. I see a lot of it on mega threads, especially on the gambling board and I find it really messy. IMO, single or double quote is enough and there's no need to pyramid quote just because you want to make a post or buttress a point.

[Moneyprism]

Is it complicated for those senior members, trimming the previous post so they have to quote that long lol, I just feel uncomfortable when I see it, cutting quotes is part of written literacy, surely the text that is quoted will look neater and easier to read, but I It's quite surprising why so many members still quote that much.

if it has become a habit then it will definitely be difficult to change it, and thankfully quotes like that only happen in megathreads lol.

[Agbamoni]

I have only come across this type of replies in megathreads, mostly in gambling and speculation. If a person has to make this type of comment, they likely did it for a reason. There are some conversations where you have to go back to where it all started before you can understand what is being discussed. Most people do this so that anyone who enters a discussion can quickly read and understand where it all began. I don't expect a random person to jump into any argument or discussion without knowing the reasons.

[robelneo]

Some quotes are necessary some unnecessary and one of the purposes of multi-quoting is to call out those early posters about the information they provided by quoting them they are being called out, provided of course that they subscribe to the notification bot, it is a flow of conversation summarizing, but I agree there should be a limit on quoting, too much quoting will confuse many readers.

[hatshepsut93]

However, some members keep making the same mistake repeatedly and have chosen not to learn. For those using the Telegram bot, this can be annoying when you're mentioned unnecessarily, and keep getting notifications even if you're not involved in the current discussion.

The telegram bot that I use only notifies me of direct quotes and mentions, and the bot that I created used to do the same. So it's not really a major problem, the biggest annoyance is that it makes the threads less readable, and in general I just skip reading the reply of a pyramid quote, because it  most likely has zero value because good posters don't make such mistakes.

[nakamura12]

Is it complicated for those senior members, trimming the previous post so they have to quote that long lol, I just feel uncomfortable when I see it, cutting quotes is part of written literacy, surely the text that is quoted will look neater and easier to read, but I It's quite surprising why so many members still quote that much.

if it has become a habit then it will definitely be difficult to change it, and thankfully quotes like that only happen in megathreads lol.

Well, it's not hard to find where you want to read from the post like that because it's on the bottom either you made a sentence or a paragraph. I would also say the same as what Findingnemo explained as some are too lazy to edit or trim the post because they are using mobile. I find it hard too to edit the post especially when you use mobile to post since it is not the same as laptop and desktop. I sometimes quote some post and not edit it since it is not against the forum rules and it is considered as spam too even though you may have posted on topic but it is because of not trimming the previous post.

[Xal0lex]

Over-quoting is definitely a bad habit of some users who either out of laziness or ignorance of how to cut out unnecessary quotations create such posts. I've seen cases where to read a reply in such posts you have to scroll almost half a page. I will not speak for other moderators, but if anyone comes across posts that quote five or more users in the sections of the forum where I am a moderator, you can send reports on such posts. You can also report posts that quote huge chunks of text or huge pictures.

[hd49728]

Over-quoting is definitely a bad habit of some users who either out of laziness or ignorance of how to cut out unnecessary quotations create such posts. I've seen cases where to read a reply in such posts you have to scroll almost half a page. I will not speak for other moderators, but if anyone comes across posts that quote five or more users in the sections of the forum where I am a moderator, you can send reports on such posts. You can also report posts that quote huge chunks of text or huge pictures.

It is a bad habit with good posters because they don't feel good by themselves when over-quote like this. Assume I am a good poster, I will pick a point to quote and discuss that point. If I over quote, I will struggle myself that what point I am discussing and surely readers will have more difficulty to find what I am discussing.

But it is a good habit for shit posters because it saves their time. Over quoting is one of things to recognize shit posters.

[aysg76]

These types of pyramid quotes you will usually find in gambling related sections where they are making posts in a such a manner but it is unnecessary according to me as well and you should reply to specific part of a post or if you want to quote whole post then use snip option but still you would find members doing it.It can happen sometime when you are on mobile but always doing the same thing just shows inappropriate posting behavior.