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December 14, 2023, 07:59:11 PM
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It happened to some people. Hopefully, they will be able to get out of that problem.

Take that experience as a lesson and after solving that problem, don't even try it again, or else the loop will just be repeated.

While others are having a good result taking a loan and got a good win in gambling in return, that luck won't happened to everyone.

If the gambler had loss the funds,he should learn the lesson from the loss.If they start to revolt against the gambling site,their is no use at all.Because the gambling site just conducting the game to us.The loss and win of our betting was based on the option which we chose for betting.If the gambler had made the bet by the good analytical skills in the casino games like slot and dice,he can make the big win from the same gambling site.

If the gambler had loss the money from certain strategies,he need to forgot the strategies in the future game.If the gambler had applied the wrong strategies at the middle of good strategy also leads to the loss of entire money in the gambling site.The gambler should follow winning strategies all the time in the gambling to make the good win.

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December 14, 2023, 07:59:39 PM
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Referring to OP, crossing the red line to gamble with loan money is probably a sign that addiction is at work.
Or, he's already addicted at all.

There's no need to wait for confirmation because if you've done such, then that's for sure that you've been basically doing it wrongly because instead of other important matters that needs your finance.

You're doing to ask for the loan just for you to get ahead with your gambling addiction that satisfies you.

I think you are right because if you compare it to an alcoholic, it doesn't need for an alcoholic to be drunk to understand that there is an addiction. It is often said that addictions never go away, but that there are tools to deal with them and keep living with them. As you said it doesn't need harm to be done first in order to understand that someone is addicted to gambling. If someone takes a loan for gambling, the addiction has most likely been there and now it is like with the alcoholic who is sober but can't resist the bottle in the supermarket. The bottle is the red line and the loan is the red line that nobody should cross, but the addiction is there regardless. You are correct.
I believe that addictions can go away. It will just depend on how you're going to work on it and try to avoid things that the usual people are doing when they are addicted.

Taking a loan to gamble is a no thing to do because you are only proving that you have the signs already and that's why it shouldn't be done. A person who will do that is not going to that direction.

But, he's already in his pathway and already on the actual direction and is addicted hitherto.

It's true, addiction can be eliminated if they have the awareness and also a sense of wanting to stop gambling that has harmed them financially and with not a small amount, I think they can get rid of their addiction if they themselves have a strong intention and determination to leave this harmful thing, many things they must apply and do consistently. It is not easy to be tempted by existing gambling even with their own friends who get big wins, don't let that make them tempted and return to gambling. because everyone's luck is different, even though they follow the steps of their friends who get big wins it doesn't guarantee they will get big wins too.

It is indeed difficult to quit gambling addiction, and it is impossible to stop completely at once, so they can reduce their gambling frequency, it is a good start if they can reduce their gambling activities. and after that they have to do many more things so as not to return to gambling addiction, even though it is difficult but if they have strong intentions and determination I think they can do it. especially if they are already in debt because of gambling I think they should immediately stop gambling, and start a new life where they have to find a job that earns a clear income to pay off all their debts.
In every person and on the time that you are dealing with gambling then there would really comes a time or moment that we would really be having those kind of behavior on which we are really that
partly getting addicted on which it is really just that normal to have that kind of approach on said moment or scenario because we do really love and want to make up some money with gambling on the
most easisest way and on the time that it would happen then unwise spending and impulsive behavior would be common or happening until the time comes that you are spending too much already.
This thing cant really be noticed until you would really be able to find out yourself on being that experiencing those financial hardships or getting overdropped because on the things on what you are doing.
Basically people would really be just only noticing on things on which they arent really supposed to be done in the first place. Its not bad to gamble as long you do make yourself that responsible because
people would usually be losing off track on the time that they would really be dealing upwith gambling because on the time that you do able to experience some easy win amounts then those impressions and insights
would really be changed up on point and this what makes you that molding up that kind of anticipations that winning in gambling is easy and on the time that you would be having this then this would really be
pushing you to play further until you do find yourself on being wrecked in the end.

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December 15, 2023, 03:55:18 PM
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It's true, addiction can be eliminated if they have the awareness and also a sense of wanting to stop gambling that has harmed them financially and with not a small amount, I think they can get rid of their addiction if they themselves have a strong intention and determination to leave this harmful thing, many things they must apply and do consistently. It is not easy to be tempted by existing gambling even with their own friends who get big wins, don't let that make them tempted and return to gambling. because everyone's luck is different, even though they follow the steps of their friends who get big wins it doesn't guarantee they will get big wins too.

It is indeed difficult to quit gambling addiction, and it is impossible to stop completely at once, so they can reduce their gambling frequency, it is a good start if they can reduce their gambling activities. and after that they have to do many more things so as not to return to gambling addiction, even though it is difficult but if they have strong intentions and determination I think they can do it. especially if they are already in debt because of gambling I think they should immediately stop gambling, and start a new life where they have to find a job that earns a clear income to pay off all their debts.
In every person and on the time that you are dealing with gambling then there would really comes a time or moment that we would really be having those kind of behavior on which we are really that
partly getting addicted on which it is really just that normal to have that kind of approach on said moment or scenario because we do really love and want to make up some money with gambling on the
most easisest way and on the time that it would happen then unwise spending and impulsive behavior would be common or happening until the time comes that you are spending too much already.
This thing cant really be noticed until you would really be able to find out yourself on being that experiencing those financial hardships or getting overdropped because on the things on what you are doing.
Basically people would really be just only noticing on things on which they arent really supposed to be done in the first place. Its not bad to gamble as long you do make yourself that responsible because
people would usually be losing off track on the time that they would really be dealing upwith gambling because on the time that you do able to experience some easy win amounts then those impressions and insights
would really be changed up on point and this what makes you that molding up that kind of anticipations that winning in gambling is easy and on the time that you would be having this then this would really be
pushing you to play further until you do find yourself on being wrecked in the end.

Is someone who takes out a loan to gamble reasonable?
In my opinion, someone who gambles even if he is addicted to gambling should not take out a loan to continue gambling that they want even if it is for the reason of pursuing victory it is not reasonable, but if someone who is addicted to gambling and has a stubborn nature it will be difficult to advise, that way maybe they will still take out a loan to gamble. With the risk of the future that will complicate them as well as themselves later. it's best to avoid this, because with gambling addiction alone it is detrimental to them complicating their lives especially if they take out loans for gambling then it will only add more problems for them, by doing so in my opinion it will not solve the gambling problem, because the chances of a big defeat cannot be hidden.

I myself never think that winning will be easy to get, because I know that the chances of winning are smaller than the chances of losing, and I myself will gamble with the money I have and I can afford, it is not good to gamble excessively, especially if you make loans whose purpose is only for gambling. as you said it is not wrong to gamble as long as it is responsible, so that's why I gamble only with the amount of money I can afford, and I also set limits on my financial budget, because to minimize losses in gambling it depends on yourself.

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December 15, 2023, 07:10:55 PM
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It happened to some people. Hopefully, they will be able to get out of that problem.

Take that experience as a lesson and after solving that problem, don't even try it again, or else the loop will just be repeated.

While others are having a good result taking a loan and got a good win in gambling in return, that luck won't happened to everyone.
Chances are that most of those that try to take a loan to gamble will lose it very quickly, since it is obvious that they have a problem just for the fact that they asked a loan for an activity that we should only practice in the case we have the money to spare, and once they lose that money it will be difficult for them to not ask for another loan, until they get so much debt that paying it will take years or even a decade, so it is better to avoid that path at all costs as someone could easily ruin their lives if they decided to take it.
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December 15, 2023, 08:13:32 PM
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I believe that addictions can go away. It will just depend on how you're going to work on it and try to avoid things that the usual people are doing when they are addicted.

Taking a loan to gamble is a no thing to do because you are only proving that you have the signs already and that's why it shouldn't be done. A person who will do that is not going to that direction.

But, he's already in his pathway and already on the actual direction and is addicted hitherto.

This would get us into really complicated and deep discussions if we want to find out and conclude whether addictions can go away. I think this is a rare case that someone would say the addiction is gone and whatever the person was addicted to is not attractive anymore. You are not wrong because I know people who used to be smokers and then quit and they are completely against smoking as if they have been the biggest opponents of smoking ever since they are alive. It could be some sort of self-protection, but I would swear some of them don't touch a cigarette ever again because they truly find it disgusting. But in most cases I think someone would say "well, I would like to gamble a bit or smoke a bit, but I better not do it because otherwise...".

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December 15, 2023, 08:57:34 PM
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I believe that addictions can go away. It will just depend on how you're going to work on it and try to avoid things that the usual people are doing when they are addicted.

Taking a loan to gamble is a no thing to do because you are only proving that you have the signs already and that's why it shouldn't be done. A person who will do that is not going to that direction.

But, he's already in his pathway and already on the actual direction and is addicted hitherto.
This would get us into really complicated and deep discussions if we want to find out and conclude whether addictions can go away. I think this is a rare case that someone would say the addiction is gone and whatever the person was addicted to is not attractive anymore. You are not wrong because I know people who used to be smokers and then quit and they are completely against smoking as if they have been the biggest opponents of smoking ever since they are alive. It could be some sort of self-protection, but I would swear some of them don't touch a cigarette ever again because they truly find it disgusting. But in most cases I think someone would say "well, I would like to gamble a bit or smoke a bit, but I better not do it because otherwise...".
It is possible but the reality is that it's hard to get out of it. That's why those that are willing and doing everything they can to help themselves, they will eventually get out of it.

So, your chance of getting out of addiction will also vary on how you're going to do things in avoiding it. If you are not doing anything then, don't expect that you'll get out of it.

And you might even continue doing things like taking a loan just to gamble.



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I have always advised people not to take gambling seriously but I myself became heavily addicted to live blackjack from stake.com and kept winning and losing. In this case I will not blame the gambling site because they give live cards. I started the game with just $20 but gradually I got addicted to it and wanted to gamble and win bigger amounts by depositing bigger amounts. I lost $1700 playing this way then I decided to play with a much bigger amount and recover all the losses then quit gambling for this I borrowed 270000 BDT ($2180) from the bank and deposited there. But unfortunately I lost them. Now I am financially so weak that it has become very difficult to meet my family expenses and I owe the bank $2180 which will take me a long time to pay off. Now it will take about 2 years for my financial situation to be normal again. Gambling addiction set back my normal life by 2 years. I am a victim of real experience and I am sharing my real experience with you.  Don't make the same mistake I did.  And never decide to gamble with a loan. If you do, your situation may be similar to mine. so beware of gambling

It's not really advisable to take out a loan just to gamble, don't do that because you'll only get worse from what you're doing. We know that gambling is dangerous so you need to be in the right mindset no matter what happens. If you don't have any more gambling money, just shut up and do something else to entertain yourself. It is very risky to take out a loan just for gambling, many people are buried in debt, their lives are ruined because of it. So let's avoid this from happening to us.

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I have always advised people not to take gambling seriously but I myself became heavily addicted to live blackjack from stake.com and kept winning and losing. In this case I will not blame the gambling site because they give live cards. I started the game with just $20 but gradually I got addicted to it and wanted to gamble and win bigger amounts by depositing bigger amounts. I lost $1700 playing this way then I decided to play with a much bigger amount and recover all the losses then quit gambling for this I borrowed 270000 BDT ($2180) from the bank and deposited there. But unfortunately I lost them. Now I am financially so weak that it has become very difficult to meet my family expenses and I owe the bank $2180 which will take me a long time to pay off. Now it will take about 2 years for my financial situation to be normal again. Gambling addiction set back my normal life by 2 years. I am a victim of real experience and I am sharing my real experience with you.  Don't make the same mistake I did.  And never decide to gamble with a loan. If you do, your situation may be similar to mine. so beware of gambling

It's not really advisable to take out a loan just to gamble, don't do that because you'll only get worse from what you're doing. We know that gambling is dangerous so you need to be in the right mindset no matter what happens. If you don't have any more gambling money, just shut up and do something else to entertain yourself. It is very risky to take out a loan just for gambling, many people are buried in debt, their lives are ruined because of it. So let's avoid this from happening to us.
This one of the worst thing a man can do in the name of gambling,this are the people that I call addicts,because they have gambled to the extent that when their money finishes,they don't feel okay,they still want to borrow from other people to continue giving the Cassino more money,
If you want to gamble with someone's money,it shouldn't be that the person loaned it out to you,it should be that the person gave you the little he can  to assist you,and not to take it in the name of taking a loan.

So many person have fallen into depression because they  took a loan they find very difficult to meet up.Zince gambling is not a guarantee source of money,It is only good to gamble responsibly with the little cash in their hand.

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The key point of playing with borrowed money lies in one not entirely obvious aspect: psychologically, few people understand that borrowed money is the same money that we earn with great difficulty. Often people view borrowed funds as easy money that should not be taken seriously. I would say that in this case there is a depreciation of money.

In general, my advice is that we should not gamble with borrowed money, because we should only gamble with funds that we can afford to lose.

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Often people view borrowed funds as easy money that should not be taken seriously. I would say that in this case there is a depreciation of money.


What about the opposite case, though?
It would be possible that someone tried to gamble using borrowed money, not only because they have ran out of money on their own, but they also see it as a way to seek for even more thrill during their gambling sessions. If you ask anyone who deal with the problem of seeking as much thrill as possible, they will likely tell you that the thrill they feel increases in a proportional way with the amount of money they put at stake. That being said, using one's of money the worst case would be to be left with a balance of 0$, but even if after becoming broke one takes a loan to continue to gamble there there is the chance to end up with negative balance, from there on the thrill could increase because the stake is relatively higher by crossing the line of using one's money to using other's money for the same purpose.
So it would not be necessarily about a implicit depreciation a person has on money (they actually do not even own), but rather the contrary. It is just a theory on why someone would even consider to ask for a loan to gamble, beside the obvios explanation of gambling addiction.

I agree that anyone should never depend on a loan to fuel their addiction, regardless of the nature of such.

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The key point of playing with borrowed money lies in one not entirely obvious aspect: psychologically, few people understand that borrowed money is the same money that we earn with great difficulty. Often people view borrowed funds as easy money that should not be taken seriously. I would say that in this case there is a depreciation of money.

In general, my advice is that we should not gamble with borrowed money, because we should only gamble with funds that we can afford to lose.
You would really be having those kind of thinking on how the heck these people considering out on taking some loan just for the sake of gambling? Havent been able to think that losing chance
with gambling is high and that would really be a huge mess on paying up some interest on due time and those amounts had completely gone in a few seconds or minutes on playing gambling?
I dont know on where they have go that kind of sensible thinking on trying out to compare about reality and other aspects on which it would really be that causing up that kind of
devastation with your finances if you arent that mindful about your actions. You would really be definitely be putting up yourself on such great danger.

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I have always advised people not to take gambling seriously but I myself became heavily addicted to live blackjack from stake.com and kept winning and losing. In this case I will not blame the gambling site because they give live cards. I started the game with just $20 but gradually I got addicted to it and wanted to gamble and win bigger amounts by depositing bigger amounts. I lost $1700 playing this way then I decided to play with a much bigger amount and recover all the losses then quit gambling for this I borrowed 270000 BDT ($2180) from the bank and deposited there. But unfortunately I lost them. Now I am financially so weak that it has become very difficult to meet my family expenses and I owe the bank $2180 which will take me a long time to pay off. Now it will take about 2 years for my financial situation to be normal again. Gambling addiction set back my normal life by 2 years. I am a victim of real experience and I am sharing my real experience with you.  Don't make the same mistake I did.  And never decide to gamble with a loan. If you do, your situation may be similar to mine. so beware of gambling

It's not really advisable to take out a loan just to gamble, don't do that because you'll only get worse from what you're doing. We know that gambling is dangerous so you need to be in the right mindset no matter what happens. If you don't have any more gambling money, just shut up and do something else to entertain yourself. It is very risky to take out a loan just for gambling, many people are buried in debt, their lives are ruined because of it. So let's avoid this from happening to us.
This one of the worst thing a man can do in the name of gambling,this are the people that I call addicts,because they have gambled to the extent that when their money finishes,they don't feel okay,they still want to borrow from other people to continue giving the Cassino more money,
If you want to gamble with someone's money,it shouldn't be that the person loaned it out to you,it should be that the person gave you the little he can  to assist you,and not to take it in the name of taking a loan.

So many person have fallen into depression because they  took a loan they find very difficult to meet up.Zince gambling is not a guarantee source of money,It is only good to gamble responsibly with the little cash in their hand.

Well we always put a lot of emphasis on the fact that many things can be generated that come after making the loans, first of all those who lend in a drop by drop way because it is the most used way at least in Colombia and there they have the money at once, in an immediate way, the bad thing is that the drop by drop if you fail, because the people look for you, they beat you so badly that they leave you half dead, that is what can be generated like this when a drop loan is made bit by bit, because those who lend are mostly people who are in mafias and live off of that, so you have to be careful especially with the interest, the interest on the loans, in this case with the drop by drop, are very large, since Sometimes people don't have much left to pay, and it's interest only for at least 1 month, then the next month it's interest+capital, so all these types of things are the ones we should always see.

Now, when we are in a casino, the least thing we should do is that , lend money, if we finance ourselves more, then we can have the results we should have, but I would never recommend lending money to play in a casino, of course. As I have said on previous occasions, it is preferable to lend money to buy Bitcoin, because Bitcoin is a safe investment, and if it is left for the long term, the growth will be exponential. Of course, it is advisable that if you take a loan to buy Bitcoin , it must be paid as soon as possible, but it is an investment in the future and that is what is sought, a safe investment, an investment that becomes manifest in a few years, since it multiplies greatly, that is why we have we 'a loan to play in a casino that is very likely to lose everything, the problem will be per, on the other hand it may happen that money is lent, bitocin is bought and then bitcoin increases in price or reaches a new ATH the Loans pay themselves.

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December 16, 2023, 10:36:34 PM
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You would really be having those kind of thinking on how the heck these people considering out on taking some loan just for the sake of gambling? Havent been able to think that losing chance
with gambling is high and that would really be a huge mess on paying up some interest on due time and those amounts had completely gone in a few seconds or minutes on playing gambling?
I dont know on where they have go that kind of sensible thinking on trying out to compare about reality and other aspects on which it would really be that causing up that kind of
devastation with your finances if you arent that mindful about your actions. You would really be definitely be putting up yourself on such great danger.

The gambler will not take loan to play the game,only the gambling addicted person will do the loan and gambling to recover the gambling loss.But most of the gamblers may take the loan to cover the loss happened in the gambling site.The random idea gamblers should not take the gambling as their business to make the money.Because the random gambling is not the better option to the gamblers,instead he spend some money on the gambling to learn the gambling.If the gamblers want to play the gambling with the loan,he should be more skilled person in at least one game in the gambling site.If not the gamblers skip to take loan for gambling play.

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The key point of playing with borrowed money lies in one not entirely obvious aspect: psychologically, few people understand that borrowed money is the same money that we earn with great difficulty. Often people view borrowed funds as easy money that should not be taken seriously. I would say that in this case there is a depreciation of money.

In general, my advice is that we should not gamble with borrowed money, because we should only gamble with funds that we can afford to lose.
This is a very common mistake, when people ask for a loan they think the bank is the one giving them some extra money, but this is a very superficial understanding, what they are really doing is to ask a loan from their future selves and asking them to work harder so they can buy something they want now, and if a person does this in a irresponsible way, they are basically sentencing themselves to work incredibly hard for the rest of their lives.
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This is not just in gambling but also in investment, we should always remember to only risk what we could afford.
No matter how great we believe that we would gain profit from something, never risk what you could afford or take loans just to have a bigger capital and profit.
Even in business most of the small time business owners take loan to start of,  just imagine if the business didn't work out then they would just be in debt, only few could pull it of and be successful.



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December 21, 2023, 01:27:53 PM
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This is not just in gambling but also in investment, we should always remember to only risk what we could afford.
No matter how great we believe that we would gain profit from something, never risk what you could afford or take loans just to have a bigger capital and profit.
Even in business most of the small time business owners take loan to start of,  just imagine if the business didn't work out then they would just be in debt, only few could pull it of and be successful.

Money loan is not bad as long as if its for sonething useful or some kind of emergency because we all know that not all people are having emergency fund or any insurances, that's why the only thing that will help them is to loan money. When it comes to gambling, it is very inappropriate to use a loan money for your personal interest because there's an instances that instead of helping you, borrowing money will harm you even more, especially if the money you borrowed was used up in gambling. I'm afraid to get to the point where I might not be able to pay my debts, So as much as possible I don't really borrow money from people or even from the bank unless i will be using it for my own business.



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December 21, 2023, 03:13:00 PM
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I sympathize with OP for his lose, and I thank him for sharing his gambling experience with us that we don't make the same mistake like him, by being in dept for something that we could simply avoid. My experience in business has thought me never to take a loan to start a business, because you don't know if the business will be successful, not to talk of collecting it for gambling that depends on luck, and the probability of losing is greater than winnings. We should totally avoid taking loans, unless for health reasons or an established business that we're sure of making profit, so we can be able to repay the loan, never for anything else, especially not gambling that we're not sure of winning. If we must gamble, it's better to be sure to avoid chasing loses, because that's the start of addiction,

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December 21, 2023, 03:19:19 PM
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It happened to some people. Hopefully, they will be able to get out of that problem.

Take that experience as a lesson and after solving that problem, don't even try it again, or else the loop will just be repeated.

While others are having a good result taking a loan and got a good win in gambling in return, that luck won't happened to everyone.
Chances are that most of those that try to take a loan to gamble will lose it very quickly, since it is obvious that they have a problem just for the fact that they asked a loan for an activity that we should only practice in the case we have the money to spare, and once they lose that money it will be difficult for them to not ask for another loan, until they get so much debt that paying it will take years or even a decade, so it is better to avoid that path at all costs as someone could easily ruin their lives if they decided to take it.
I'm not sure if we are really talking about chances of losing when you use funds from a loan, I don't think we are able to calculate that. But for someone who doesn't have money and still want to gamble my advice is just to sleep, why on earth would you want to gamble if you don't have the means? besides taking a loan on my perspective is more of personal, so if nothing's come up to you urgently that may need money then don't take it!

On any gambler's belief, yeah maybe, taking a loan to gamble is just another way of adding up your losses. In short you'll lose with a loan.
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You would think that not taking out a loan to gamble would be common sense but people always tend to think they’re going to be the exception to the rule. At least OP didn’t borrow crypto to gamble with or that pain could have been even worse. I imagine the lending section here is full of people who do this same activity…

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December 21, 2023, 03:26:12 PM
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It happened to some people. Hopefully, they will be able to get out of that problem.

Take that experience as a lesson and after solving that problem, don't even try it again, or else the loop will just be repeated.

While others are having a good result taking a loan and got a good win in gambling in return, that luck won't happened to everyone.


It is true that it happens and there are lucky people who win even if the money used is debt, but not all are like that, not all are lucky like others and because you win, it will happen to you again of course not. There is no certainty if you will get lucky again. So learn to be content if you don't have any bets for your gambling, shut up, what you are doing is very dangerous, you are taking a loan just to gamble.

In truth, many people have ruined their lives because they borrowed money to gamble, and the ending is that the borrowed money grew until they could no longer afford to pay it back. Some people are able to get up, but it's like you took a rock and hit your head with it.

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