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December 22, 2023, 05:06:15 PM
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This is a big loss OP sorry to hear, but you are right that for those gamblers who have a plan to loan some amount of money in order to sustain their own wants which is to play in gambling, they must not go for it as we can see your experience how bad it is, and this is must be the mindset of gamblers that borrowing money to gamble is not a good one cause once it will loss then your regret got doubled cause you need to recover your lost and then you needing also to pay your loan which is pretty bad.
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December 22, 2023, 05:10:47 PM
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That's true, friend, in fact I have repeatedly reminded people not to play gambling games with borrowed money because it is very dangerous.

I agree, and I think in the OP's case he should quit gambling for good. That he has come to borrow money to gamble, lose it and that it will take him two years to reverse that situation should make him consider it very seriously. When one reaches those levels of out of control the only solution is to quit for good, like the alcoholic whose solution is to stop drinking and never try a drop again.

To want to continue betting small stakes believing that he controls and that the same thing will not happen again is a direct road to ruin.

When you do not have money to gamble, it is better to quit gambling and not try to borrow money and gamble, Because if you lose the borrowed money in gambling, then for sure you are going in big trouble as you will not only have to return that money but at the same time, the people will be after you if you start to delay in returning your loan.

No one will care that you have lost the money in gambling and now you are in a desperate situation. The person who gives loan, will want us to return that loan no matter what happens and this means that the gambler (who already had no money to gamble and took a loan) has to arrange that money by taking another loan or something like that  Roll Eyes

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December 22, 2023, 05:17:34 PM
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This is a big loss OP sorry to hear, but you are right that for those gamblers who have a plan to loan some amount of money in order to sustain their own wants which is to play in gambling, they must not go for it as we can see your experience how bad it is, and this is must be the mindset of gamblers that borrowing money to gamble is not a good one cause once it will loss then your regret got doubled cause you need to recover your lost and then you needing also to pay your loan which is pretty bad.

He condition looks pitiful and still on the same way annoying because i don't know where on earth can someone learn to take a loan on gambling and have no any plan on ground for a refundment, this is a personal attitude that one can have and develop and when taken, they will also have to face the consequences that might follows because even those that are financially capable are not taking money from their business to gamble or go extra way in taking loan just because they wanted to gamble.

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December 22, 2023, 05:25:50 PM
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Gambling is not an investment, so taking a loan for gambling is an expensive joke, how will you take a loan to do stuff that is not sure, it is a mistake but it doesn't have to repeat itself, what a big loss but you believe I believe that you have learned, is just that you learn in a hard way, addiction is very much attached to the game of gambling, this habit is very difficult when someone has deeply involved himself into it but I believe at the early stage something can be done which is total abstinence or break that's the only technique to apply, if not, addiction can even make you to commit a crime in other to quench your urge, gambling can ruin someone's life if care is not taken, it you can't play maturely don't enfulge in it.

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December 23, 2023, 08:53:16 AM
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It's true that everything that has risk is a gamble. And that's why if someone considers to start up a business and takes a loan, that's gambling indeed. And if we're talking about entirely with gambling and taking a loan, someone who's going to do that will learn from his/her mistake.

That's why I said that if you consider a start-up business as a form of gambling, then you have to consider everything else as gambling too. When we engage in a relationship, we can consider it as gambling with our hearts because we don't know what is going to happen. We are taking a risk of having a broken heart. We never know if our loved ones are going to cheat or not. How do you see this example?

We always gamble with ourselves. When we go outside with our motor bike or car, we are taking risks of an accident. We never know if we will be back safely or not. In that sense, everything is gambling. But, if you do not consider those events as gambling, you should not consider business as a gambling too.

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December 23, 2023, 12:31:42 PM
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Gambling is not an investment, so taking a loan for gambling is an expensive joke, how will you take a loan to do stuff that is not sure, it is a mistake but it doesn't have to repeat itself, what a big loss but you believe I believe that you have learned, is just that you learn in a hard way, addiction is very much attached to the game of gambling, this habit is very difficult when someone has deeply involved himself into it but I believe at the early stage something can be done which is total abstinence or break that's the only technique to apply, if not, addiction can even make you to commit a crime in other to quench your urge, gambling can ruin someone's life if care is not taken, it you can't play maturely don't enfulge in it.
Taking out a loan to gamble is highly discouraged. People who do this will only regret it because after they lose from gambling, they realize that it was a mistake and they cannot recover their losses even if they take out more loans. Taking a loan from a loan shark is even less advisable because interest must be paid in addition to the loan money. Never be tempted by offers made by other people who want to lend you money because they want something from you. And when you lose, you will be charged an even larger amount of money. They won't care about what you're going through and even if you don't have the money to pay back the loan, they will look for valuables you have as a substitute.

And this usually happens to people who are addicted to gambling, where they are bound by gambling and cannot get out of gambling. They want to gamble, and if they don't have money, they borrow money from other people. These people will experience greater difficulties or problems than those who gamble using their own money.

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December 23, 2023, 08:22:17 PM
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Gambling is not an investment, so taking a loan for gambling is an expensive joke, how will you take a loan to do stuff that is not sure, it is a mistake but it doesn't have to repeat itself, what a big loss but you believe I believe that you have learned, is just that you learn in a hard way, addiction is very much attached to the game of gambling, this habit is very difficult when someone has deeply involved himself into it but I believe at the early stage something can be done which is total abstinence or break that's the only technique to apply, if not, addiction can even make you to commit a crime in other to quench your urge, gambling can ruin someone's life if care is not taken, it you can't play maturely don't enfulge in it.
Taking out a loan to gamble is highly discouraged. People who do this will only regret it because after they lose from gambling, they realize that it was a mistake and they cannot recover their losses even if they take out more loans. Taking a loan from a loan shark is even less advisable because interest must be paid in addition to the loan money. Never be tempted by offers made by other people who want to lend you money because they want something from you. And when you lose, you will be charged an even larger amount of money. They won't care about what you're going through and even if you don't have the money to pay back the loan, they will look for valuables you have as a substitute.

And this usually happens to people who are addicted to gambling, where they are bound by gambling and cannot get out of gambling. They want to gamble, and if they don't have money, they borrow money from other people. These people will experience greater difficulties or problems than those who gamble using their own money.
Taking a loan to gamble is already a very bad sign, but to do so from a loan shark is probably the worst thing a person could do in almost any situation, as not only the interest rates you will have to pay will be huge, they are not above using illegal methods to try to get their money, including physical violence, so regardless of how desperate a person may be they need to avoid those people, as even if you were to pay the loan on time they will keep asking you for money with the threats of violence.
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December 23, 2023, 08:51:50 PM
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Gambling is not an investment, so taking a loan for gambling is an expensive joke, how will you take a loan to do stuff that is not sure, it is a mistake but it doesn't have to repeat itself, what a big loss but you believe I believe that you have learned, is just that you learn in a hard way, addiction is very much attached to the game of gambling, this habit is very difficult when someone has deeply involved himself into it but I believe at the early stage something can be done which is total abstinence or break that's the only technique to apply, if not, addiction can even make you to commit a crime in other to quench your urge, gambling can ruin someone's life if care is not taken, it you can't play maturely don't enfulge in it.
Taking out a loan to gamble is highly discouraged. People who do this will only regret it because after they lose from gambling, they realize that it was a mistake and they cannot recover their losses even if they take out more loans. Taking a loan from a loan shark is even less advisable because interest must be paid in addition to the loan money. Never be tempted by offers made by other people who want to lend you money because they want something from you. And when you lose, you will be charged an even larger amount of money. They won't care about what you're going through and even if you don't have the money to pay back the loan, they will look for valuables you have as a substitute.

And this usually happens to people who are addicted to gambling, where they are bound by gambling and cannot get out of gambling. They want to gamble, and if they don't have money, they borrow money from other people. These people will experience greater difficulties or problems than those who gamble using their own money.
Taking a loan to gamble is already a very bad sign, but to do so from a loan shark is probably the worst thing a person could do in almost any situation, as not only the interest rates you will have to pay will be huge, they are not above using illegal methods to try to get their money, including physical violence, so regardless of how desperate a person may be they need to avoid those people, as even if you were to pay the loan on time they will keep asking you for money with the threats of violence.
Once you do reach up into a situation or condition that you are already that taking a loan then this is a solid indicative sign that you are already that addicted into it and this is something
that you should stop it immediately on the things that you've been dealing with gambling because the longer it would be the more devastation that it could bring and this is something not really that
good into someones life. This is why it would really be that always better that you should really be mindful about your actions. You should be responsible about into your finances because we know that we do have other responsibilities in life on which we do really needing to make use of that finances and this is something that we must care about and not really just that focusing too much
when it comes to leisure things.

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December 23, 2023, 09:22:11 PM
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Taking out loans for business purposes is quite common and personally, I don’t think it’s that bad. Thinking about it, taking out loans for business purposes is sort of like a gamble cause whatever investments or business the loan is being taken out for could still come out as a loss. But it’s still a whole lot better than taking out loans for literal gambling purposes.
With a business loan, there is a much higher chance of paying back the loan while making bigger and better sales and services in your business.
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If you want to count apples and pears you can do it, because they are fruits but they are totally different, likewise that forced comparison of a commercial loan, please! a bet is something that has no relevance in the comparative  with commercial loans, it are low-risk investments, and each party receives the promised money. So don't confuse "pears" with "apples," they are different.

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December 23, 2023, 09:34:03 PM
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Taking out a loan to gamble is highly discouraged. People who do this will only regret it because after they lose from gambling, they realize that it was a mistake and they cannot recover their losses even if they take out more loans. Taking a loan from a loan shark is even less advisable because interest must be paid in addition to the loan money. Never be tempted by offers made by other people who want to lend you money because they want something from you. And when you lose, you will be charged an even larger amount of money. They won't care about what you're going through and even if you don't have the money to pay back the loan, they will look for valuables you have as a substitute.

And this usually happens to people who are addicted to gambling, where they are bound by gambling and cannot get out of gambling. They want to gamble, and if they don't have money, they borrow money from other people. These people will experience greater difficulties or problems than those who gamble using their own money.
Taking a loan to gamble is already a very bad sign, but to do so from a loan shark is probably the worst thing a person could do in almost any situation, as not only the interest rates you will have to pay will be huge, they are not above using illegal methods to try to get their money, including physical violence, so regardless of how desperate a person may be they need to avoid those people, as even if you were to pay the loan on time they will keep asking you for money with the threats of violence.

Of course from the actual choice alone we can already conclude that they have a very bad approach and it is not recommended when making loans as an alternative when they run out of money, honestly I never thought why there are gamblers who are desperate to make loans just to gamble, as we know that gambling is recommended only for entertainment when you have free time, and if they are willing to borrow just to gamble then I think it's gone too far which means that their goal is not for entertainment but seems to be looking for victory or income.

That's right, it's not only the risk of paying interest on the loan that they're taking that they're going to get if they use borrowed money to gamble but also the very high level of mental and psychological stress if you do end up losing. Honestly, even though they basically have the money to pay all the loans, I think this is a dangerous action because obviously I think if you have tried to gamble with borrowed money then obviously in the future you will also do the same thing when you run out of money, on the other hand this is the point from which many new problems will come, so anyway this should be avoided.

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December 23, 2023, 10:13:56 PM
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This is a big loss OP sorry to hear, but you are right that for those gamblers who have a plan to loan some amount of money in order to sustain their own wants which is to play in gambling, they must not go for it as we can see your experience how bad it is, and this is must be the mindset of gamblers that borrowing money to gamble is not a good one cause once it will loss then your regret got doubled cause you need to recover your lost and then you needing also to pay your loan which is pretty bad.

I just read that you are going to gamble, and then I read that the money you are going to use here is from a loan, which is wrong for me. Because in the first place, if I look at it, the money you borrowed has already been dissolved, because we always say to play at your own risk or do what you can afford to lose.

This means that we know very well that the chances of us winning or getting the gambling jackpot are remote because we also know very well that these casinos are often places where money is wasted, and then we end up in debt to gamble here. Right?

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December 23, 2023, 11:39:56 PM
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I just read that you are going to gamble, and then I read that the money you are going to use here is from a loan, which is wrong for me. Because in the first place, if I look at it, the money you borrowed has already been dissolved, because we always say to play at your own risk or do what you can afford to lose.

This means that we know very well that the chances of us winning or getting the gambling jackpot are remote because we also know very well that these casinos are often places where money is wasted, and then we end up in debt to gamble here. Right?

The gambler who want to gamble using the loan money can stop the gambling at the initial stage.Because loan is like the repeated habit,it doesn’t matter the gambler to use the loan for the gambling or for the regular monthly expenses.If the gambler had loss the first game in the gambling,he will take the continuous game in the gambling site.Because the gambler will try to recover the loss from the gambling site and again.But we know the gambler can’t get the money back from the gambling site in the short period.It take huge time from the recovery.

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December 24, 2023, 06:16:48 AM
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Taking a loan to gamble is already a very bad sign, but to do so from a loan shark is probably the worst thing a person could do in almost any situation, as not only the interest rates you will have to pay will be huge, they are not above using illegal methods to try to get their money, including physical violence, so regardless of how desperate a person may be they need to avoid those people, as even if you were to pay the loan on time they will keep asking you for money with the threats of violence.
It's better not to borrow from loan sharks. They can try to borrow from a friend if they really want to borrow money. If they borrow money from their friends, their friends may consider lending them money. But I don't think it's easy to find friends who want to lend you money, especially if the money will be used for gambling. Borrowing money from other people has risks that we must pay attention to and pay on time. But if you borrow money to gamble, it's better not to do it because it could cause difficulties or problems for us. We can allocate a certain amount of money to play gambling so that we don't need to borrow money from other people. We will also be calm when playing gambling and will not think about how we have to pay back the borrowed money.

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December 24, 2023, 06:27:35 AM
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I just read that you are going to gamble, and then I read that the money you are going to use here is from a loan, which is wrong for me. Because in the first place, if I look at it, the money you borrowed has already been dissolved, because we always say to play at your own risk or do what you can afford to lose.

This means that we know very well that the chances of us winning or getting the gambling jackpot are remote because we also know very well that these casinos are often places where money is wasted, and then we end up in debt to gamble here. Right?

The gambler who want to gamble using the loan money can stop the gambling at the initial stage.Because loan is like the repeated habit,it doesn’t matter the gambler to use the loan for the gambling or for the regular monthly expenses.If the gambler had loss the first game in the gambling,he will take the continuous game in the gambling site.Because the gambler will try to recover the loss from the gambling site and again.But we know the gambler can’t get the money back from the gambling site in the short period.It take huge time from the recovery.

However, if he has borrowed, it means he is gambling beyond the limits of his money. if you don't control that, then the situation will be very bad for the gambler's finances.
This is a very risky decision. the biggest possibility is multiple losses. whatever guarantee is given, it is better not to give loans or lend money to such gamblers. in the end, there will be problems.

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December 24, 2023, 06:46:31 AM
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It's better not to borrow from loan sharks. They can try to borrow from a friend if they really want to borrow money. If they borrow money from their friends, their friends may consider lending them money. But I don't think it's easy to find friends who want to lend you money, especially if the money will be used for gambling. Borrowing money from other people has risks that we must pay attention to and pay on time. But if you borrow money to gamble, it's better not to do it because it could cause difficulties or problems for us. We can allocate a certain amount of money to play gambling so that we don't need to borrow money from other people. We will also be calm when playing gambling and will not think about how we have to pay back the borrowed money.


The gambler can easily get loan from the sharks,but the friends may have the money or not.Because the gambler friend may also lag of money like him,for this reason the gamblers can seal loan from the biggest person in his society.If your friend also from the gambling circle,you can easily get the loan from them at the time of winning.The gambler friend also know our struggle after the loses,mainly need to manage the monthly expenses if they loss the money.Your friend also like the same situation after the loss from the gambling.


The gambler who want to gamble using the loan money can stop the gambling at the initial stage.Because loan is like the repeated habit,it doesn’t matter the gambler to use the loan for the gambling or for the regular monthly expenses.If the gambler had loss the first game in the gambling,he will take the continuous game in the gambling site.Because the gambler will try to recover the loss from the gambling site and again.But we know the gambler can’t get the money back from the gambling site in the short period.It take huge time from the recovery.

It will be the better idea,because the loan amount can be stopped at the beginning.Once the gambler started to get loan,he could not stop because the loan can be continued.The reason was very common one,the gambler try of getting the loan to recover the losses in the gambling site.

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December 24, 2023, 09:34:47 AM
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I just read that you are going to gamble, and then I read that the money you are going to use here is from a loan, which is wrong for me. Because in the first place, if I look at it, the money you borrowed has already been dissolved, because we always say to play at your own risk or do what you can afford to lose.

This means that we know very well that the chances of us winning or getting the gambling jackpot are remote because we also know very well that these casinos are often places where money is wasted, and then we end up in debt to gamble here. Right?

The gambler who want to gamble using the loan money can stop the gambling at the initial stage.Because loan is like the repeated habit,it doesn’t matter the gambler to use the loan for the gambling or for the regular monthly expenses.If the gambler had loss the first game in the gambling,he will take the continuous game in the gambling site.Because the gambler will try to recover the loss from the gambling site and again.But we know the gambler can’t get the money back from the gambling site in the short period.It take huge time from the recovery.

However, if he has borrowed, it means he is gambling beyond the limits of his money. if you don't control that, then the situation will be very bad for the gambler's finances.
This is a very risky decision. the biggest possibility is multiple losses. whatever guarantee is given, it is better not to give loans or lend money to such gamblers. in the end, there will be problems.
Borrowing and gambling will lead to the biggest mistake of his life because no one can guarantee the success of gambling with loans. Here it takes luck and learn to control yourself. Don't try to recover winning losing is a bad part of the game. Playing in the mood or playing drunk can lead to poor play decisions and therefore loss of money. Don't do it gambling should be one of your leisure activities not the only one.

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December 24, 2023, 09:53:40 AM
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It's complicated to understand gamblers' brains. We witness gamblers borrowing and gambling, stuck in an optimistic-desperate loop. Their desire for the next great win blinds them to their crushing debts. Can advice break this barrier? I doubt it. They gamble with their lives, relationships, and futures, not just money. The awful irony is that people rarely see the cliff until they're too close. But isn't this game of chance exciting? Perhaps we can relate to this rush? I don't condone irresponsible gambling, but many find it attractive

Receptiveness comes when they're at rock bottom. They seek financial aid and a lifeline from us. An repetitive pattern. Our role goes beyond advice-giving here. We anchor them and restore stability. Watching this repeating story is exhausting, even annoying. Remember that regret transforms. These insight moments might spark actual change. We must assist, guide, and remind them of the joy of responsible gambling. Instead of outlawing the game, learn to play it carefully to enjoy the action without the fall
I don't know how this happened and lasted quite a long time, experienced by some gamblers.
It seems like they haven't really felt what is actually called destruction and difficulties in living life as result of mistakes when gambling, they need pressure and also bitter experiences to be able to have much better mindset.
It just that in the case of loans made by gamblers it can always run smoothly where there will be people who deliberately look for opportunities for their personal gain by lending money to gamblers and asking for high interest agreements.
Personally, even though the interest is high, I would never want to give certain amount of money when someone tries to lend it for the purpose of gambling capital.

For now, I would much prefer to keep quiet and see how they solve every problem that occurs and see how they make efforts to become more responsible gamblers in the future.
Caring too much if it is not appreciated or considered will only make us feel hurt or even give rise to bad feelings too.

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December 24, 2023, 11:52:31 AM
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The gambler can easily get loan from the sharks,but the friends may have the money or not.Because the gambler friend may also lag of money like him,for this reason the gamblers can seal loan from the biggest person in his society.If your friend also from the gambling circle,you can easily get the loan from them at the time of winning.The gambler friend also know our struggle after the loses,mainly need to manage the monthly expenses if they loss the money.Your friend also like the same situation after the loss from the gambling.
Yes, that's true, but that will give him bigger problems because the loan sharks will only let them go if they have paid back the borrowed money. Loan sharks will keep chasing people so they can pay their debts. That is why people should not borrow from loan sharks and should not borrow money as much as possible. Borrowing from friends in gambling circles is also not recommended because they might also apply interest to the loan money so, which can make it difficult for us when we want to pay off the debt.

The important thing is that you don't take too big a risk in gambling and, as much as possible, don't borrow money from anyone. Gambling with your own money is best for anyone who wants to gamble so they are not obligated to pay their debts. They only need to allocate a certain amount of money for gambling and always stay within the limits.

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December 24, 2023, 01:20:21 PM
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This is a big loss OP sorry to hear, but you are right that for those gamblers who have a plan to loan some amount of money in order to sustain their own wants which is to play in gambling, they must not go for it as we can see your experience how bad it is, and this is must be the mindset of gamblers that borrowing money to gamble is not a good one cause once it will loss then your regret got doubled cause you need to recover your lost and then you needing also to pay your loan which is pretty bad.
Indeed. Only gamble using your set budget and never try to borrow money just to sustain your gambling activity. That's a risky thing to do and can cause huge problem if you lose in gambling. Just like the story of op, you'll only realize the mistakes you did after experiencing it yourself. I know someone personally who had such problem. His family left him for being irresponsible and worse he put himself into a huge debt due to uncontrolled behavior towards gambling. That's how he realized his mistakes but it's already too late since he is in a total mess. This is a reminder for us to gamble responsibly and do your best not to become addicted. Thus, have self-control and always know your limit.

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January 05, 2024, 04:55:45 AM
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This is a big loss OP sorry to hear, but you are right that for those gamblers who have a plan to loan some amount of money in order to sustain their own wants which is to play in gambling, they must not go for it as we can see your experience how bad it is, and this is must be the mindset of gamblers that borrowing money to gamble is not a good one cause once it will loss then your regret got doubled cause you need to recover your lost and then you needing also to pay your loan which is pretty bad.
Indeed. Only gamble using your set budget and never try to borrow money just to sustain your gambling activity. That's a risky thing to do and can cause huge problem if you lose in gambling. Just like the story of op, you'll only realize the mistakes you did after experiencing it yourself. I know someone personally who had such problem. His family left him for being irresponsible and worse he put himself into a huge debt due to uncontrolled behavior towards gambling. That's how he realized his mistakes but it's already too late since he is in a total mess. This is a reminder for us to gamble responsibly and do your best not to become addicted. Thus, have self-control and always know your limit.
And that is what makes their recovery so difficult, not only those people have to live knowing they threw away their lives over something that did not had any value to begin with, the impact of their decision will last for years to come, and when they think of all the things they need to do in order to get their lives back on track, many of those people do not see the point at all and prefer to let themselves go instead of making a legitimate attempt at fixing their lives.
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