Royse777 will not pay anyone for the last week /Sinbad campaign/

[Bounty Bro]

Why Royse can't send all funds into a mixer,
mix it,
get untainted funds again
distribute remaining last week /Sinbad campaign/?

and send all remaining funds to a Bitcointalk faucet where each Bitcointalk member can get a little bit of it?

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[digaran]

Why Royse can't send all funds into a mixer,
mix it,
get untainted funds again
distribute remaining last week /Sinbad campaign/?

and send all remaining funds to a Bitcointalk faucet where each Bitcointalk member can get a little bit of it?

Because the law enforcement officers are watching our every move, so we can't secretly distribute illegal funds, duh.

[Igebotz]

A victim of his own success?

What can I say, I don't choose who shows up on my weekly list of DT1 and DT2 members who have negative feedback (or are banned).

Fair enough. Almost thought you guys are lovers.

Why Royse can't send all funds into a mixer,
mix it, get untainted funds again
distribute remaining last week /Sinbad campaign/?

and send all remaining funds to a Bitcointalk faucet where each Bitcointalk member can get a little bit of it?

None of the Sinbad participants are complaining about the underpaid week; the only people flinging mud at the wall and hoping it sticks are those who enjoy criticising Royse. The Sinbad Sig campaign was a success. And I don't want to be a part of the final payment. Those coins are deemed stained in perpetuity.

Moving the tainted coins to another mixer may jeopardise the company as well.

[Synchronice]

None of the Sinbad participants are complaining about the underpaid week; the only people flinging mud at the wall and hoping it sticks are those who enjoy criticising Royse.

Anyone wanting to get coins from that address is not a sane person and is asking for trouble. Seems they want their names to be included in the justice.gov files, that's what they are asking for.

The Sinbad Sig campaign was a success.

Sinbad's signature campaign was not a success. I can't call it a success because many bad things, i.e. mixers got banned after Sinbad's accident and it was also known long ago that Sinbad was a renewed Blender. Sinbad's main source of income probably was Lazarus group, during their existence as Blender and after being renamed as Sinbad.

[Igebotz]

Sinbad's signature campaign was not a success. I can't call it a success because many bad things, i.e. mixers got banned after Sinbad's accident and it was also known long ago that Sinbad was a renewed Blender. Sinbad's main source of income probably was Lazarus group, during their existence as Blender and after being renamed as Sinbad.

The project was not fully successful, but the signature campaign project was in the sense that they ran it for a long time and paid in full every week. A substantial sum of money was also left in escrow. Prior to my participation, I was unaware of their connection to the Lazarus organisation.

[notblox1]

btw. I haven't enjoyed it for a while, Honestly, I'm almost very close to the decision to leave all this BS (not only the forum) because of many regulations and restrictions, increasingly rigorous KYC, BRC garbage and f****n high fees... quite dysfunctional for some of my needs. theymos' ban plus the things he caused just added fuel to the fire.

Yeah sure, that is why you just applied ang signed contract for new campaigns
If you do decide to leave this place, I wish you all best and safe trip back to the normal world.
I am sure you are not going to have any regulations, restrictions and kyc there 

You are free to express your thoughts and criticise others, but when someone does the same thing, it becomes "are you hired by Royse to defend him?" It is so disrespectful and strange for you to believe that everyone must have identical opinions to yours.

First of all, Royse did hire him to participate in one or more of his campaigns and he is really paying him, so he is hired by him for something.
Than I never said that everyone needs to think same like me, that is stupid.
Any campaign I participated in I never feel the need to protect and serve whatever manager, on contrary.

He stopped the campaign on what purpose? If this is not hate then I don't know what it is. You're a Mafia spy and a friend of The Sherrif, but this isn't the way to go.

He achieve his goal, to have fake highest paying campaign in forum.
Reason I followed this subject  is because I had a topic with my personal sponsored giveaway about this, and nobody paid me to do this.

[AliErkic]

Sinbad's signature campaign was not a success. I can't call it a success because many bad things, i.e. mixers got banned after Sinbad's accident and it was also known long ago that Sinbad was a renewed Blender. Sinbad's main source of income probably was Lazarus group, during their existence as Blender and after being renamed as Sinbad.

The project was not fully successful, but the signature campaign project was in the sense that they ran it for a long time and paid in full every week. A substantial sum of money was also left in escrow. Prior to my participation, I was unaware of their connection to the Lazarus organisation.

Yes, it was known right when Sinbad.io started:

For anyone doing at least basic research about Sinbad.io, it's been easy to spot how fraudulent Sinbad.io was: Sinbad.io was a re-launch of Blender, a famous mixer operated by criminals: Crypto mixer Blender has been rebranded to Sinbad, says Elliptic: https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-mixer-blender-has-been-rebranded-to-sinbad-says-elliptic

Have centralized mixers = get shady operators behind it
For Sindbad.io = operators wanted to wash own coins from crimes and hacks, get clean funds from Bitcointalk for mixing.
Sindbad.io operators abused Bitcointalk to have fresh funds for mixing criminal coins.

Alone from any basic research, shady history of Sinbad.io was known.
If Royse777 did any basic research how shady Sinbad.io has always been, now Bitcointalk won't have any problems.

[Shishir99]

Seems like I missed some more recent drama with Royse777, because I'm reading new accusations.  Question:  is all the information in this thread or elsewhere?  I'd like to know before I embark on a bunch of reading that would require a lot of attention being paid to it.  I'm not being lazy, just efficient and asking for help.

Long story short.

#Drama1

Since theymos decided to ban mixers, the campaign won't run after 1st January. Royse as a campaign manager, decided to move his campaigns to another forum and he thought to offer it to some other mixer companies. But, the problem is, those companies are already working with other managers. The possible reason could be, that Royse didn't think if other managers also planned to move the campaign to another forum or not.

Then, icopress complained that his clients got messages from Royse777 which he considered unethical.

#Drama2

after announcing the mixers ban, Royse decided to increase the pay rate because the campaign won't be long-lasting as everyone knows and it was supposed to run till the end of the year. But, The campaign ended with 2 weeks in hand. The company decided to run its campaign immediately on another platform and stop it on Bitcointalk after 2nd week.

Now, some people accuse him saying he fooled the campaign participants with the high pay rate but the campaign did not run for a long time. They started criticizing Royse because he ended the campaign after running it for two weeks. Most probably, it was the company who decided not to continue.

[digaran]

IMO, Royse777 decided too early to pack the stuff and migrate, all his clients could rename and start operating under a shell company like jambojetler, by leaving so soon now he has put his clients at risk of losing potential future audience from Bitcointalk, so he needs to think of something, and fast, because the competition is ahead at least a week.😉

[icopress]

Here is a solution that will keep Royce and the Sinbad campaigners safe.

- Royce will send me the amount needed to cover the debt to the Sinbad participants.
- I, in turn, will keep these coins and process the payment from my own funds (minus 5%).

I think the mods should now close this thread, since I believe the issue mentioned in the OP will be resolved soon.

[Poker Player]

I find the subtle tone this topic has taken, both on one side and the other, quite amusing and entertaining. We'll see how it turns out, but it's certainly different from what we usually see in this section. Waiting to see what the next subtle move looks like, or if it ends with such subtlety.

(Edited to say that it seems it wasn't subtle)

[Pmalek]

I came across this discussion by accident. I find it funny how a member who was not a participant of the campaign (at least not with that username) complaints that other members have not received their payments. At the same time, the actual participants, understanding what happened, are not asking for their coins for now. Publicly at least. One never knows what's going on in private messages. airfinex is the Dark Knight of Bitcointalk. 

[digaran]

Here is a solution that will keep Royce and the Sinbad campaigners safe.

- Royce will send me the amount needed to cover the debt to the Sinbad participants.
- I, in turn, will keep these coins and process the payment from my own funds (minus 5%).

I think the mods should now close this thread, since I believe the issue mentioned in the OP will be resolved soon.

Lol, why would you want to have stolen money - %5, which could be considered as fees,  however next time you wanted to talk ethics, morality, honesty etc, come here and read this post, THAT MONEY is legally and ethically FORBIDDEN to touch/spend, whether by participants, or anyone else, it seems you don't have a problem with that though, typical. That money is PROVEN to be from hacked/stolen funds. If Royse touches them, there is no going back for him, unless LE give him the green light officially.

[GazetaBitcoin]

Here is a solution that will keep Royce and the Sinbad campaigners safe.

Okay, since the great manager Royse, which is a pro (and it's clear for everyone he's a pro since he declared himself a pro), was just given a solution for this issue, let's see how he'll dodge once more the possibility of paying back Sinbad participants and (pick-?)pocket the money. I remember he said almost a month ago that he'll contact a lawyer but lawyers are rara avis these days, so it's understandable if he won't find any lawyer until 2028 or so. Meanwhile he ca resume to activities where he's best at -- running best paying campaigns, starting some more topics in Reputation board, chopping beating some more trees, stuff like that.

I think the mods should now close this thread, since I believe the issue mentioned in the OP will be resolved soon.

I highly doubt that the issue will be solved soon. Meanwhile, be careful:

[Igebotz]

Here is a solution that will keep Royce and the Sinbad campaigners safe.

- Royce will send me the amount needed to cover the debt to the Sinbad participants.
- I, in turn, will keep these coins and process the payment from my own funds (minus 5%).

I think the mods should now close this thread, since I believe the issue mentioned in the OP will be resolved soon.

The coins are stained and already marked as stolen, and I can tell you that there are 3-5 agents on the screen keeping an eye on those coins, and a single movement puts Royse in jeopardy for moving a tainted coin. Royse has stated openly that he will not have anything to do with such coins until his legal team approves.

Why do you want to be the Jesus Christ ( Messiah) ? 

I came across this discussion by accident. I find it funny how a member who was not a participant of the campaign (at least not with that username) complaints that other members have not received their payments. At the same time, the actual participants, understanding what happened, are not asking for their coins for now. Publicly at least. One never knows what's going on in private messages. airfinex is the Dark Knight of Bitcointalk. 

Those who did not participate in the signature campaign are more concerned with the money than those of us who did participate, understood the situation, and have moved on.

[Vod]

To avoid disruption, there will be a grace period: Nothing will change until Jan 1, 2024.

Hear that scammers?  Theymos will not hold anyone accountable before Jan 1.  

[Sexylizzy2813]

Theymos has made it clear to the public that nothing new can happen concerning all mixer campaign but my major concern is the way some members take this issue as if we have just one person to blame for the problem happening.
Is it that Royse is the cause of the problem we're seeing now concerning sinbad? Are we blaming Royse or what?
To me I feel we should just say things the way we see them, the man Royse has done the best he can on this issue, trying to keep all participants out of trouble, he should be given some credit.

[EarnOnVictor]

Sinbad's signature campaign was not a success. I can't call it a success because many bad things, i.e. mixers got banned after Sinbad's accident and it was also known long ago that Sinbad was a renewed Blender. Sinbad's main source of income probably was Lazarus group, during their existence as Blender and after being renamed as Sinbad.

The project was not fully successful, but the signature campaign project was in the sense that they ran it for a long time and paid in full every week. A substantial sum of money was also left in escrow. Prior to my participation, I was unaware of their connection to the Lazarus organisation.

@Synchronice and @Igebotz, I must say that I see this differently because these guys would have made huge money already.

And by virtue of what the definition of success is, S!nbad signature campaign is a huge success. They are the kind that could be compared to the old Chipm!xer, only that their success was faster in the very shortest time. According to the report, they started in October 2022 and got to that feat in less than a year. That is what I call a success, and thanks to the signature campaign here. Because no other advertisers would have helped the m!xer achieve that kind of feat so fast if not for the Bitcoin forum itself.

[Synchronice]

Sinbad's signature campaign was not a success. I can't call it a success because many bad things, i.e. mixers got banned after Sinbad's accident and it was also known long ago that Sinbad was a renewed Blender. Sinbad's main source of income probably was Lazarus group, during their existence as Blender and after being renamed as Sinbad.

The project was not fully successful, but the signature campaign project was in the sense that they ran it for a long time and paid in full every week. A substantial sum of money was also left in escrow. Prior to my participation, I was unaware of their connection to the Lazarus organisation.

@Synchronice and @Igebotz, I must say that I see this differently because these guys would have made huge money already.

And by virtue of what the definition of success is, S!nbad signature campaign is a huge success. They are the kind that could be compared to the old Chipm!xer, only that their success was faster in the very shortest time. According to the report, they started in October 2022 and got to that feat in less than a year. That is what I call a success, and thanks to the signature campaign here. Because no other advertisers would have helped the m!xer achieve that kind of feat so fast if not for the Bitcoin forum itself.

Sinbad was a rebranded Blender. Blender was already a very successful. Also, it was known from the start for everyone that Sinbad was a rebranded Blender, so, all the former Blender customers would automatically move on Sinbad, for example, their old customer, The Lazarus Group, laundered millions of dollars through Sinbad, like they did with Blender. At some point, I even think that Sinbad launched signature campaign for other purposes, to improve their reputation and hide the fact that they were rebranded Blender.
There was definitely Royse's positive influence on the brand but to my mind, the overall success of the brand has nothing to do with Royse, it was a very different scenario.

So, I exclude Sinbad from successful campaigns but to my mind Royse's successful campaigns are: YoMix, Mixero and Sherbet. That's just my speculation because I can't measure their success because only the business owners know it since this information isn't shared.

[Agbe]

Why Royse can't send all funds into a mixer,
mix it,
get untainted funds again
distribute remaining last week /Sinbad campaign/?

and send all remaining funds to a Bitcointalk faucet where each Bitcointalk member can get a little bit of it?

Yes that can also work. If he can send the funds to a mixer and mix the coins and send them to another Bitcoin address and use that address to pay the last week participants of Sinbad because they work for it though the campaign is no more. But at least let them have some to hold body from the campaign. Though what Royse did was also for their safety because if he would have sent money to their accounts and if he send the funds to a mixer, that mixer too will enter problem so let it be like this.