Wasabi Wallet - Open Source, Noncustodial Coinjoin Software

[jickiticky]

How much smaller can i go?

Im using your coordinator, default is 21, can i set it lower and connect? doesn't everyone else in the group also need to lower their setting in that case? if i select 5 and the others have 21 and we never reach 21, then no gets included in the coinjoin?

The minimum input count for my coordinator is 50, so that means anyone who has a min input value set between 5 and 50 can still join. If you change your settings to require a min input count of 51+, then your client won't join the round.

Why is that your service is down so often? According to Wabisator atleast?

[Kruw]

Why is that your service is down so often? According to Wabisator atleast?

My server has been DoS attacked for several weeks now, this is disrupting the detection of some of the trackers. Still working on fixing it.

[JollyGood]

Anything to say on this Kruw?

For some reason Kruw continues to claim zkSNACKs had shutdown last month but in reality it operates and continues to update Wasabi Wallet.

Kruw has labelled himself as a "Contributor to Wasabi Wallet" without explaining what that means. With him failing to even answer the question or address the point and not bother explaining what it means no matter how many times you ask, shows he is very keen to not comment on it. If that is the case, he clearly has something to hide.

How difficult can it be for him to explain what his relationship with zkSNACKs is and to explain what he means when he claims to be a "Contributor to Wasabi Wallet".

[Kruw]

Anything to say on this Kruw?

Not really, I found it amusing that you don't know what the word "contributor" means. You could have simply navigated to my Github profile for examples of my contributions: https://github.com/Kruwed

[JollyGood]

I know exactly what it means, it is however neither amusing nor even a disappointment that you have deliberately tried to appear far more close to zkSNACKs than you actually were. The way you have been posting in the forum has a pattern. I think you already know many will never forgive you for the personal attacks and insults you threw towards a member of the forum when it was uncalled for.

On a different note, it would be better as it would cause less misdirection if you removed the "Contributor to Wasabi Wallet" tag in the BTC Prague promotions as the "observer of Austrian economics, game theory and Bitcoin privacy" does suffice.

Anything to say on this Kruw?

Not really, I found it amusing that you don't know what the word "contributor" means. You could have simply navigated to my Github profile for examples of my contributions: https://github.com/Kruwed

[PrivacyG]

It does make you wonder exactly what his frame of mind is when he behaves in such ridiculous manner. He can make it clear that he is or is not a paid employee of Wasabi Wallet creator zkSNACKs but is actively avoiding it. If he makes it clear he is not an employee of zkSNACKs it might result in him being kicked out of the BTC Prague event since anybody can contribute to anything therefore his "Contributor to Wasabi Wallet" claim will mean nothing.

He is totally deluded to not only claim zkSNACKs shut down last month but only to repeat the claim after I pointed out to him that was not the case. Not only that, when he makes pointless walls of text in an effort to deflect he only brings himself down further.

Either the Wasabi Team has absolutely no knowledge of good Marketing or Kruw is part of them.  If I was the Wasabi Team and a random guy came out absolutely destroying the last remaining pieces of the reputation of my Product AND Team while most of my Customers think he is possibly part of my Team, I would officially announce my Team has no relationship whatsoever with Kruw.  Even if Kruw was a Contributor.

On a side note, I find it fascinating how Kruw still has not answered your question at all.

[Kruw]

If I was the Wasabi Team and a random guy came out absolutely destroying the last remaining pieces of the reputation of my Product AND Team while most of my Customers think he is possibly part of my Team, I would officially announce my Team has no relationship whatsoever with Kruw.  Even if Kruw was a Contributor.

You have it backwards: When I exposed you as a scammer, that destroyed your reputation, not my reputation:

You never provided evidence I am a Scammer.  Where is the evidence?

Here's a direct quote of you luring someone away from keeping custody of their coins and keeping their data safe with Wasabi and luring them into depositing their coins into the Chipmixer scam:

Is chipmixer on LN?

No (last time I checked at least, it was not).  It is just a website offering you Mixing services.  If you want further privacy, use it through Tor with no JavaScript.  Links to the website can be found on this thread under LoyceV's posts.

You need a lot of coin management education in order to keep your privacy levels up once you mix your coins.  Particularly since your coins have a very clear, evident trace linked to your real identity.  Once you break this link, creating alternative links will be easy.  One mistake and your identity is linked back to the mixed coins.  Does anyone here have some sort of documentation on that?  Wasabi used to have a great privacy educational doc, but I can not recommend them anymore due to obvious reasons.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5421032.msg61306379#msg61306379

[Wind_FURY]

But that's his decision, and although he might be hiding something, he truly doesn't owe us anything if he wants his identity hidden. We merely need to accept that he's simply a "contributor" for zkSNACKS. But if anyone wants to meet him in person, you can introduce yourself and ask him his name and what his actual work is in zkSNACKS, you can do that in Prague.

It is inevitable his identity will not be hidden if he ends up in the BTC Prague event therefore I see no logic why that would be a factor to consider but the pertinent issue is more to do with the fact he his identity or any other details will remain as anonymous as before if he were to claim to be an employee of zkSNACKS. Furthermore, the same can be said if he were to go on to state he was not (and never was) an employee of zkSNACKS.

Because perhaps he's truly just a contributor?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I believe that one of us may or may not be in the conference, and may or may not approach Kruw to find out if he is "C.I.A" or not. The person approaching Kruw should never reveal that he/she has posted in this topic though.

[JollyGood]

Either the Wasabi Team has absolutely no knowledge of good Marketing or Kruw is part of them.  If I was the Wasabi Team and a random guy came out absolutely destroying the last remaining pieces of the reputation of my Product AND Team while most of my Customers think he is possibly part of my Team, I would officially announce my Team has no relationship whatsoever with Kruw.  Even if Kruw was a Contributor.

At some stage I was expecting zkSNACKs to make a statement about Kruw in an attempt to distance themselves from him because of his antics within the forum. His actions definitely brought the Wasabi Wallet name in to disrepute and it had a negative impact on their business. Keeping the issue with Wasabi Wallet using blockchain analysis aside, Kruw helped to help make members dislike Wasabi Wallet when he posted a series of utterly unacceptable posts because there seemed to be no distinction between him and Wasabi Wallet as a result of him subliminally exaggerating the extent of their relationship.

On a side note, I find it fascinating how Kruw still has not answered your question at all.

It gives a window in to his mindset because clearly he is not willing to settle the matter. He has opted to twist the words without even giving a clear and concise answer therefore one can only speculate as to why he would do that.

Because perhaps he's truly just a contributor?

That seems to be the most plausible scenario.

[Kruw]

At some stage I was expecting zkSNACKs to make a statement about Kruw in an attempt to distance themselves from him because of his antics within the forum. His actions definitely brought the Wasabi Wallet name in to disrepute and it had a negative impact on their business. Keeping the issue with Wasabi Wallet using blockchain analysis aside, Kruw helped to help make members dislike Wasabi Wallet when he posted a series of utterly unacceptable posts because there seemed to be no distinction between him and Wasabi Wallet as a result of him subliminally exaggerating the extent of their relationship.

You expected the exact opposite of reality:

Kruw is a highly knowledgeable ex-zkSNACKs' employee I had the opportunity to work together with. Kudos for him for having the balls of running a coordinator for free. He takes 100% risk and gets none of the reward. It's disappointing to see these disgusting character assassinations against him. Kruw is a hero.

[Wind_FURY]

Where is the deep hate for Wasabi and Kruw coming from? Is it because zkSNACKS' coordinator admins accepted the trade-off of filtering the outputs that go through the coordinator?

I believe we plebs are being immature if that's what you truly think is the problem. It's a mere coordinator. The BitcoinTalk community could run one too without filters.

[Kruw]

Where is the deep hate for Wasabi and Kruw coming from? Is it because zkSNACKS' coordinator admins accepted the trade-off of filtering the outputs that go through the coordinator?

I believe we plebs are being immature if that's what you truly think is the problem. It's a mere coordinator. The BitcoinTalk community could run one too without filters.

The deep hatred for Wasabi is due to envy. The enemies of Bitcoin who promote of "mixing site" scams have so much blood on their hands they will never admit that you can use Bitcoin privately and non custodially. They would rather backstab satoshi and attack the fundamental property that makes Bitcoin powerful, which is self custody:

Digital signatures provide part of the solution, but the main benefits are lost if a trusted third party is still required to prevent double-spending.

The deep hatred for me is due to the fact I accomplished the feat that these scammers laughed about doing themselves:

people should be grateful for the tools that zkSNACKs has built and take advantage of the situation by capturing the market. Instead of all the whining we’re hearing.

Honestly laughed out loud at this. How childish.

I've coordinated over 600 BTC in coinjoins in the past 24 hours. o_e_l_e_o could have done the exact same thing, and there would be nothing zkSNACKs could do to stop him, but instead, he "laughed out loud" and called the idea "childish".

The critics mocked zkSNACKs for following regulations, but not a single one of those critics ever dared to solve the "problem" by providing unregulated coinjoins themselves. Instead, these scammers like o_e_l_e_o and BlackHatCoiner exposed themselves as complete hypocrites who care nothing about "blacklisting" or "censorship" since they promoted Mixtum, a CUSTODIAL service that runs a "thorough background check" on their users to enforce their broad threats of confiscation:

3. Quality scoring of incoming transactions
We run a thorough background check of incoming funds through a proprietary algorithm.

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You agree that you personally will not commit, encourage or support the committal of:

    use of any unauthorized means to access the Mixtum service or use of any automated process or service (for example, spider, crawler or periodic caching of information stored or generated by Mixtum) except for the functions described in our API, as well as distribution of instructions, software or tools with this aim in view;
    modification, change, distortion or any other interference in work of the Mixtum service;
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Wasabi is simply so good that it shows how these scammers are very obviously evil. That's why they devote their entire lives to destroy it with their shitposting.

[JollyGood]

You cite an indirect source that claims you were an ex-employee of zkSNACKs and that is to be taken as a reliable source without you commenting yourself whether you were or were not their employee.

Who in their right mind would bother going to any venue where you were one of the delegates to listen to you spouting nonsense, especially if it were in a crypto event? Well, apart from the one that called you a hero 

At some stage I was expecting zkSNACKs to make a statement about Kruw in an attempt to distance themselves from him because of his antics within the forum. His actions definitely brought the Wasabi Wallet name in to disrepute and it had a negative impact on their business. Keeping the issue with Wasabi Wallet using blockchain analysis aside, Kruw helped to help make members dislike Wasabi Wallet when he posted a series of utterly unacceptable posts because there seemed to be no distinction between him and Wasabi Wallet as a result of him subliminally exaggerating the extent of their relationship.

You expected the exact opposite of reality:

Kruw is a highly knowledgeable ex-zkSNACKs' employee I had the opportunity to work together with. Kudos for him for having the balls of running a coordinator for free. He takes 100% risk and gets none of the reward. It's disappointing to see these disgusting character assassinations against him. Kruw is a hero.

[PrivacyG]

You have it backwards: When I exposed you as a scammer, that destroyed your reputation, not my reputation:

You 'destroyed' my Reputation so bad I have a better Trust rating than you do.  Put these two side by side and it really shows who the Scammer, Deceiver and Liar really is.

If you really think I am a Scammer, mind you create a proper Thread in the 'Scam Accusations' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) Board or in the 'Reputation' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0) Board?  You have a bunch of names you keep calling out for being Scammers and considering you are such a superhero I guess it is time to finally finish us all off?

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The deep hatred for Wasabi is due to envy. The enemies of Bitcoin who promote of "mixing site" scams have so much blood on their hands they will never admit that you can use Bitcoin privately and non custodially. They would rather backstab satoshi and attack the fundamental property that makes Bitcoin powerful, which is self custody:

A really poetic and artistic piece of text this is, is it part of your upcoming propaganda book?

I have nothing to envy you about.  Chill down your Ego a little bit, you are not as superior or supreme as you think of yourself.

Instead, these scammers like o_e_l_e_o and BlackHatCoiner exposed themselves as complete hypocrites who care nothing about "blacklisting" or "censorship" since they promoted Mixtum, a CUSTODIAL service that runs a "thorough background check" on their users to enforce their broad threats of confiscation:

You must be a really big piece of shit to put 'Scammer' over the name and Reputation of a person who is not among us any more and can not defend themselves against your silly and exaggerated claims, namely Leo who was among the top fighters if not the top fighter of Privacy that we had on Bitcoin Talk.

And you know he fought for Privacy, and you know he was afraid and worried of what was to come for all of us in the future, and you know he fought for the best, and you know he always had some of the best arguments most of the respondents could not even give a proper reply to.  You know it all very well, yet you decide to be a subhuman and shit on his Reputation.  And shitting on mine is a thing, since I can still defend myself, but knowingly doing this to somebody who can not puts you really low on the list of respectable people.

[Kruw]

You 'destroyed' my Reputation so bad I have a better Trust rating than you do.  Put these two side by side and it really shows who the Scammer, Deceiver and Liar really is.

LOOOOL THIS GUY BELIEVES DEMOCRACY DETERMINES TRUTH  

If you really think I am a Scammer, mind you create a proper Thread in the 'Scam Accusations' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) Board or in the 'Reputation' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0) Board?  You have a bunch of names you keep calling out for being Scammers and considering you are such a superhero I guess it is time to finally finish us all off?

I already posted the proof of you scamming with Chipmixer, you don't have to keep begging for it over and over:

You never provided evidence I am a Scammer.  Where is the evidence?

Here's a direct quote of you luring someone away from keeping custody of their coins and keeping their data safe with Wasabi and luring them into depositing their coins into the Chipmixer scam:

Is chipmixer on LN?

No (last time I checked at least, it was not).  It is just a website offering you Mixing services.  If you want further privacy, use it through Tor with no JavaScript.  Links to the website can be found on this thread under LoyceV's posts.

You need a lot of coin management education in order to keep your privacy levels up once you mix your coins.  Particularly since your coins have a very clear, evident trace linked to your real identity.  Once you break this link, creating alternative links will be easy.  One mistake and your identity is linked back to the mixed coins.  Does anyone here have some sort of documentation on that?  Wasabi used to have a great privacy educational doc, but I can not recommend them anymore due to obvious reasons.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5421032.msg61306379#msg61306379

You must be a really big piece of shit to put 'Scammer' over the name and Reputation of a person who is not among us any more and can not defend themselves against your silly and exaggerated claims,

I've thoroughly proven o_e_l_e_o was scamming Bitcointalk users by telling them to send their coins to Chipmixer (who stole everything): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482198.msg63517432

namely Leo who was among the top fighters if not the top fighter of Privacy that we had on Bitcoin Talk.

How can you say o_e_l_e_o was a "Top fighter if not the top fighter of privacy" when he was promoting Mixtum?  If o_e_l_e_o was interested in privacy, he wouldn't be telling people to deposit their coins into a chain analysis service that runs a thorough background check on coins to determine whether or not they want to confiscate them:

3. Quality scoring of incoming transactions
We run a thorough background check of incoming funds through a proprietary algorithm.

2.1. Privacy Policy

Please refer to our Privacy Policy to get an understanding of our confidentiality obligations. You consent to the collection and use of information as described in the Privacy Policy.

2.2 Suspension or termination of services

Mixtum reserves the right to suspend or terminate access to services at any time at its own discretion, with or without reasons, with or without notification assuming no responsibility whatsoever.

For example, services may be suspended or terminated due to the following reasons:

    an actual or suspected violation of these Terms and Conditions;
    use of the service in such a manner that is conducive to the legal liability of Mixtum or Service malfunction;
    planned or unplanned maintenance, etc.

2.3 Unacceptable use

You agree that you personally will not commit, encourage or support the committal of:

    use of any unauthorized means to access the Mixtum service or use of any automated process or service (for example, spider, crawler or periodic caching of information stored or generated by Mixtum) except for the functions described in our API, as well as distribution of instructions, software or tools with this aim in view;
    modification, change, distortion or any other interference in work of the Mixtum service;
    disturbing or interference in operation of servers or networks used by Mixtum to deliver the Services;
    disabling, overload or degradation of Mixtum performance (or any other network connected to the service);
    use of the Mixtum service or website for any other purposes other than those specifically provided by these Terms and Privacy Policy;
    any illegal or fraudulent activity, as well as use of this Service in order to legalize illegal income, financing of terrorism, participation in schemes of phishing, forgery or other such falsification or manipulation;
    unauthorized spamming, pyramid schemes or any other activity duplicating unwanted messages should they be commercially oriented or of other nature.

2.4 Service updates

At any time and at its absolute discretion Mixtum can carry out unscheduled works related to the service modification, update and enhancement. We are liable to add or remove functions and cease activities of the service and website.
2.5 License and restrictions

Mixtum provides you with a personal nontransferable nonexclusive license to use the Service as it is stipulated for you by Mixtum. This license is provided under conditions and restricted to the provisions, stipulations and constraints stated in these Terms. Therewith, such license is intended for personal, noncommercial use. You may not copy, modify, create a derivative work of, decompile or otherwise attempt to extract the source code of the service or any part thereof, exclusive of data permitted by law, or expressly allowed by the Mixtum platform (use of templates, API, etc.). You may not reassign (or grant a sublicense of) your rights to use the service, or otherwise transfer any part of your rights in accordance with these Terms. These Rules do not provide you with any license or permission to copy, distribute, change or otherwise use any applications programming interface despite any provisions to the contrary. No property rights or ownership rights related to the Service are not granted to you according to these Terms. Mixtum reserves all rights that have not been expressly granted.

[JollyGood]

I am no expert on the mindset of forum members but I have been around here long enough to know what narcissistic tendencies look like when I see them. In my opinion, for quite some time one of the biggest narcissists has to be Kruw.

Clearly he is deluded because he wants others to idolise him and praise him as though he is some super-contributor to crypto. The reality is different because nobody appreciates anything he has contributed to Github and nobody envies Kruw (except his sidekick nopara73). Kruw resorts to gutter-level politics when he cannot win a debate and that is the only thing people will remember him for before he fades from memory over time.

~

I have nothing to envy you about.  Chill down your Ego a little bit, you are not as superior or supreme as you think of yourself.

[Wind_FURY]

Where is the deep hate for Wasabi and Kruw coming from? Is it because zkSNACKS' coordinator admins accepted the trade-off of filtering the outputs that go through the coordinator?

I believe we plebs are being immature if that's what you truly think is the problem. It's a mere coordinator. The BitcoinTalk community could run one too without filters.

The deep hatred for Wasabi is due to envy. The enemies of Bitcoin who promote of "mixing site" scams have so much blood on their hands they will never admit that you can use Bitcoin privately and non custodially. They would rather backstab satoshi and attack the fundamental property that makes Bitcoin powerful, which is self custody:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We don't need to add more drama. The point was why people keep attacking Wasabi Wallet when zkSNACKS started filtering transactions for their coordinator? Because that coordinator is offline now, and there are other coordinators that are online. I believe there are no filters for those new coordinators?

[Kruw]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We don't need to add more drama. The point was why people keep attacking Wasabi Wallet when zkSNACKS started filtering transactions for their coordinator? But that's over now, other coordinators are online. I believe there are no filters for those coordinators?

The point is since o_e_l_e_o and BlackHatCoiner promoted Mixtum, they proved they never had any problems whatsoever with "blockchain analysis" or "blacklisting". The entire outrage over zkSNACKs' customer policy was always completely fake, it was simply an excuse for these scammers to promote their custodial "mixing sites".