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December 09, 2023, 11:32:48 AM
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1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?
Recently I also got a glimpse of the news on local state television that there is a possibility of Covid lev2 but I am quite skeptical about the Covid agenda coming in a political year. As is the case in my country, next year is the year the head of state changes. Why is this related regardless of whether Covid is true or not after learning from 2019 that was also the year when politics used Covid as an agenda for politicians to distort facts, seek votes of support increase hospital business again etc. So it is not surprising that now people are starting to ask questions and are reluctant to believe in Covid lev2. No matter whether China is the point of spread or threat it all proves that there is always a hidden agenda in the interests of certain groups to achieve their goals.

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December 10, 2023, 11:57:56 AM
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I can’t say anything about China or the new, as the OP writes, COVID, but in my country, there is a respiratory disease that the Ministry of Health can’t determine whether it’s the flu or a viral respiratory disease. The disease begins with a high fever and mainly affects children. Hospitals are also full. Treatment consists of antiviral drugs and vitamins—nothing new.
But to say that this could be some new and terrible virus would be incorrect; most likely, this is an old type of flu that was previously transmitted by adults, and they have immunity to it, which cannot be said about children.

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December 10, 2023, 07:21:09 PM
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Two issues:

1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?

I don't think it's likely that world is going to be crippled again by another pandemic any time soon. First of all, the countries are ready as all the governments still have their covid pandemic plans ready to be reactivated. Secondly, the people are ready as well, everybody still has makes and sanitizers at home from the last pandemic. We all know the drills about social distancing, not shaking hands and washing our hands regularly. And thirdly, the pharma industry is ready for the next pandemic. There was a huge race to find the first vaccination and people saw how profitable it's going to be. I am sure any new pandemic would be focused on even harder in the future by the big pharma companies. The world has changed a lot since 2019 and I don't think the impact from another pandemic would have the same strong impact like covid. There isn't much to do for us to prepare, maybe stock up on food and toilet paper, save some more money and maybe buy into the big pharma companies before they announce the next vaccination round.
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December 10, 2023, 07:29:16 PM
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1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?
After the rapid disappearance of covid-19 pandemic and the economic and social problems witnessed by the quarantine, I find it difficult for countries to take the same measures of lockdown and working from home, especially since I know some friends who believe in the conspiracy theory and that they did not receive vaccines and yet were not infected with the pandemic. It will be convincing these people will be more difficult.


News coming from China needs to be reviewed by independent sources because some media outlets either try to downplay its importance or there is a false exaggeration of the statement that China is a failed state.
I think no, it didn't disappeared rapidly. The fatality rate, and the huge number or affected people are a proof to it. If there is quick here, that will only be the movement of the virus from country to country or from person to person. Despite of the safey measures that are being done later on, the virus is still too strong to penetrate and continues to scare everyone. But, we are glad that it was over.

The only problem though is here, (the new virus) and this slowly builds a fear to all of us again. But we shouldn't worry because we already have a good experience before. We already fought a good fight with one of the strongest and deadliest viruses. So are we going to give up now? I guess not.

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December 10, 2023, 09:14:36 PM
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Could it be side effects from having gotten Covid or the Covid vaccine? I had gotten the virus 3 times even though I did get the vaccine and booster and now two-three years later I have vascular problems.  I had it in my family tree but I did not suffer from it before.  I think the virus turned on the genetic switch.  Maybe that is what is going on in China.

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December 10, 2023, 09:37:58 PM
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Could it be side effects from having gotten Covid or the Covid vaccine? I had gotten the virus 3 times even though I did get the vaccine and booster and now two-three years later I have vascular problems.  I had it in my family tree but I did not suffer from it before.  I think the virus turned on the genetic switch.  Maybe that is what is going on in China.

There are still some things about Covid that are unclear. Maybe it's a side effect of Covid, as you say. I guess we will never know the answer. Those who warned everyone to get vaccinated disappeared after the dangers of these vaccines were revealed.

I don't know if the world is ready for a new pandemic. After Covid, many people will avoid vaccines and I don't know if this is the right or wrong behavior.

Maybe the situation is, as you say, revealing a disease in your genetics. I hope people can find answers to these questions in their minds.
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December 11, 2023, 02:17:43 AM
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Two issues:

1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
well yes , the world is still suffering from the damage brought  by COVID 19  in which so many people died, many jobs losses , many are still struggling in life and here we are again facing another worldwide problem?

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2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?
what made me think is "WHY ALWAYS CHINA" what is in their country that they kept being the mother of illnesses ?
but if this is true then the world now must act earlier than what had happened in covid19 that the action is already late as the virus has already spread around the world .

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1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?
I don't think a new global pandemic like COVID-19 awaits us. We have seen that the combination of the arrival of winter has increased the number of respiratory illnesses among children. This is not unexpected, as respiratory diseases peak during the winter months  However, it is still important for authorities to monitor the situation closely and ensure that appropriate measures are taken to protect children from illness. This includes continuing to promote good hygiene practices, encouraging mask wearing and ensuring access to healthcare for those who need it. Additionally, it is important for parents to be vigilant and seek medical advice if their children develop any symptoms of respiratory illness. Overall, while the recent increase in respiratory illnesses among children in China is alarming, it is not necessarily a cause for alarm as long as proper measures are taken to address it.
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1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?

It's pretty normal to have high levels of flu around the people during the fall and winter. There will be a flu epidemic in my country in the next few weeks. This type of flu is targeting mostly children, so the adults might be OK.
I'm not buying this "undiagnosed respiratory decease" thing. China has lots of well educated and well prepared scientists and doctors.
I don't believe that they can't diagnose the flu virus and they can't analyze it.
It's way too early to decide how this epidemic will go. I don't think that this will turn into another pandemic, so there's no need to spread fear and panic.

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December 11, 2023, 04:58:20 PM
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We get news about the walking pneumonia among asian countries, some super disease that is apparently being concocted and spread across China, and quite lately the icebergs in Antarctica bearing marks of prehistoric Virus/Bacteria that could spread diseases long gone from our Immune system's catalog. We're going to be in a bad time right now frankly speaking. And since we're not seeing any form of response on our government's part it would seem to me as if we're just outright fucked at this point.

For the meantime, I guess let's just enjoy these moments we have while we can still go outside, and hopefully prepare for any impending disease, so we don't get another COVID-19 situation.

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December 11, 2023, 08:33:47 PM
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1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
I don't think it is another pandemic because the officials of China are saying they did not detect any unusual pathogens inside these kids, and if it would be some new pandemic then why it is following age discrimination means why it is choosing only kids, I think I agree with there only theory that when winter comes a wave of viruses like pneumonia comes and these kids have lower immune system due to the quarantine time during Covid-19,

If these children have weak immune and that's the only reason they are becoming sick then I don't think it a difficult task to help these children recover their immune to a stronger one. I hope they will get well soon and they already have seen a lot like Covid-19, Quarantine, etc. I hope these kids won't face another pandemic in their whole life. And To be honest, I think its too early for a pandemic to come, I was thinking a few days back that if Covid was artificially to do some business then those who are behind it must have done a hell lot of business so I don't think there would be any other artificial pandemic any soon, as there is no need to do business again, they would have made hell lot of money. At least I hope so, and now I am reading this news, Allah saves us.

I will say one thing - I would not take into account the statements of Chinese officials as information for a real assessment of the situation. Remember about Covid, this is quite enough to no longer trust “official information”. Or a softer formulation - Chinese official statements, I would consider as a last resort.


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Media wants news and if everything is peaceful there won't be anything much to broadcast. Understanding this media tries to create regular news out of a same topic. This is where things gets exaggerated. However this time it isn't very big and the information regarding the epidemic hadn't spread widely same as that of the COVID. Things were under control and everytime it is China to have these problems addressed initially.

It seems to me that in the modern world there are SO many reasons for information of any type that it would be wrong to talk about a lack.
The problem is slightly different - the information isolation of the problem is on China's side. The Covid pandemic began in a similar way. At first, there was little news about the outbreak of the disease, then an inactive continuation, and then... just an EXPLOSION of information when the virus broke out of China and people began to talk about it in countries where politics does not limit the media.
I will accept with great joy the news that this is really a seasonal outbreak... but in the situation with limited information in China, I somehow feel a little uneasy... This is why the opinions and information from Chinese residents are interesting


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December 11, 2023, 08:57:29 PM
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Could it be side effects from having gotten Covid or the Covid vaccine? I had gotten the virus 3 times even though I did get the vaccine and booster and now two-three years later I have vascular problems.  I had it in my family tree but I did not suffer from it before.  I think the virus turned on the genetic switch.  Maybe that is what is going on in China.

That covid vaccine get as it works, what I don't know is the age limit or range at which it's best useful at, then it has to be on certain conditions as well that someone would have gotten to the conclusion that they needed to take a covid vaccine, but people were less concerned wether it works or not, maybe it's best for young, adults or old ones, all we do is that everyone got enrolled for the vaccination.

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December 11, 2023, 11:11:11 PM
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1. The world economy and population has not yet everywhere moved away from the covid and events of 2022, and ... a new global pandemic awaits us ?  Your opinion - what and how to prepare for ?
2. Can anyone from China confirm or deny this news ?
Recently I also got a glimpse of the news on local state television that there is a possibility of Covid lev2 but I am quite skeptical about the Covid agenda coming in a political year. As is the case in my country, next year is the year the head of state changes. Why is this related regardless of whether Covid is true or not after learning from 2019 that was also the year when politics used Covid as an agenda for politicians to distort facts, seek votes of support increase hospital business again etc. So it is not surprising that now people are starting to ask questions and are reluctant to believe in Covid lev2. No matter whether China is the point of spread or threat it all proves that there is always a hidden agenda in the interests of certain groups to achieve their goals.

I would paraphrase a little - there are some individuals who use critical situations to achieve their own selfish goals. And such people do not have the right to gain access to power or significant positions. Moreover, for such people it makes no difference what happens - a pandemic, war, natural disaster. But this is a consequence of the main problem. In this case, the “strict moderation of information” in the Chinese media is a little alarming, based on previous experience.

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December 11, 2023, 11:22:24 PM
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Could it be side effects from having gotten Covid or the Covid vaccine? I had gotten the virus 3 times even though I did get the vaccine and booster and now two-three years later I have vascular problems.  I had it in my family tree but I did not suffer from it before.  I think the virus turned on the genetic switch.  Maybe that is what is going on in China.

Nobody's sure about the covid vaccination side effects though but one thing is for sure is that inheritance of any illnesses could come out anytime especially when you are getting older.
I have never heard about someone complaining about their health declining after they took the vaccination not even the old ones talking about those who are at the age of 60s to 80s.
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December 12, 2023, 09:07:37 AM
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Could it be side effects from having gotten Covid or the Covid vaccine? I had gotten the virus 3 times even though I did get the vaccine and booster and now two-three years later I have vascular problems.  I had it in my family tree but I did not suffer from it before.  I think the virus turned on the genetic switch.  Maybe that is what is going on in China.

Nobody's sure about the covid vaccination side effects though but one thing is for sure is that inheritance of any illnesses could come out anytime especially when you are getting older.
I have never heard about someone complaining about their health declining after they took the vaccination not even the old ones talking about those who are at the age of 60s to 80s.

Vaccinations against covid, in its essence little different from other, for many decades already familiar to the whole world vaccinations ! But someone decided to hype the topic, and supposedly "go against the system" and "world conspiracy". Now the leaders of the anti-vaccination movement have hundreds of thousands of deaths on their hands. Vaccines can give you a bad feeling the next day. But believe me 12 hours of unpleasant sensations, it is not 3 weeks in the hospital burning with a temperature of 40 degrees, panting and realizing that tomorrow you may not wake up. I myself ended up in the hospital because at that time we did not have vaccinations available yet. I've seen what a real pandemic is like. From the room where I was lying (for 6 people), 2 people went to the other side of the world, not coping with the virus, another still suffers from affected lungs....

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December 12, 2023, 04:16:41 PM
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I will say one thing - I would not take into account the statements of Chinese officials as information for a real assessment of the situation. Remember about Covid, this is quite enough to no longer trust “official information”. Or a softer formulation - Chinese official statements, I would consider as a last resort.
You are totally right we should not trust China news even any other news. We should trust the locals most, because they are the one who will share the true stories on there social media platforms but the problem with that is, they are not allowed (means banned) to use apps that we mostly use. Because they have there own social media apps that they use.

But who can know the inside news, like what really is happening there, all I can say is to pray that nothing will come ever like Covid, because it was artificial and many people murdered died with no reason. I don't know about other countries, but people in my countries, no matter if they have covid or not at the end they died, even the regular patients who went to hospitals for bandages, declared died by doctors to his fellow friend who went with him. There are many stories like this and most of these stories might not be shown on international media but only the locals knows what really was happening here.

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December 12, 2023, 07:27:16 PM
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If an epidemic occurs every four to five years, it is not good news for the economic condition of various countries. The corona virus had a very bad shape in the world for two years due to which the economic condition of various countries collapsed and after the end of the collapsed condition, the governments of various countries started to improve the economic condition of their countries. If an epidemic comes to the world in a fairly well-done situation, then the countries that were recovering after the big disaster will collapse again and their economic conditions will deteriorate. Corona virus took the form of a global epidemic from China. If a new epidemic from China takes a terrible form worldwide, people will have no end of doubt about this country.

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December 12, 2023, 07:44:18 PM
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It’s hard to trust anything on the internet nowadays especially when it is material that has to do with sensitive topics that may cause fear and panic. If the news is true, China should do everything they can to contain the spread of the virus until a vaccine is developed. The world cannot afford another pandemic right now, we are still recovering from Covid and honestly the economy hasn’t been the same since 2020.

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December 12, 2023, 08:07:15 PM
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I am pretty sure that we are not going to end up with something as big as covid was, that is not something you see all the time, last time humanity had something like that was about 100 years ago and there was a world war being fought so it wasn't even a day where we could all connect to world via just one phone and talk about what to do all over the world. I seriously doubt every single sickness spreading will be as big as covid, sure there are periods when people get sick, even with a simple flu there are situations where many people do get sick around the same time inside the same month, but it doesn't become a pandemic. Hence, I believe we should not be worried about it, be careful about it, and possibly be ready for it to happen again, no hurting if you try to get ready for such a thing, but doesn't mean it will be like that each time.

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December 12, 2023, 08:22:45 PM
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I am pretty sure that we are not going to end up with something as big as covid was, that is not something you see all the time, last time humanity had something like that was about 100 years ago and there was a world war being fought so it wasn't even a day where we could all connect to world via just one phone and talk about what to do all over the world. I seriously doubt every single sickness spreading will be as big as covid, sure there are periods when people get sick, even with a simple flu there are situations where many people do get sick around the same time inside the same month, but it doesn't become a pandemic. Hence, I believe we should not be worried about it, be careful about it, and possibly be ready for it to happen again, no hurting if you try to get ready for such a thing, but doesn't mean it will be like that each time.
We cant really be able to tell until it happens on which this upcoming that new covid then you cant really be able to blame out people on not to freak out considering in the past events on which it did really bring out that huge problem for most people not only on financial problems but rather it is really that being too scare about getting the sickness itself on which we know that tons of people had died out on the said pandemic.
Now that we are again in the verge on such possible scenario that might happen again just like was on 2 years ago then you cant really blame out people on not to have that kind of fear. Some might not really be
caring at all considering that they had experienced the worst and now that they came prepared for whatever things that might happen in the future.

I cant blame out to those people who are assuming that these illness or viruses are really that man created. Tons of theories and rumors that circles arounds about those
probabilities but well it is really just that some gossip or saying but who knows if its true or not. Right?

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