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January 23, 2024, 07:52:02 AM
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We are always faced with the challenge our decisions making when we start betting every single day except we are very much prepared about how we plan to go about it. Everyday usually brings a new door of winning or losing depending on how flexible we are in what we are doing. Those that had been gambling for a very long time now would under more about what I'm trying to pass in my opinion.
There are always time for us to celebrate that's when we win and the time when we could be sad, that's when we lose our bet.
Actually, you don't need to think of it as a challenge. Especially if you only use gambling as entertainment because entertainment doesn't have to be done every day. If you can use gambling as entertainment, it means you are not dependent on gambling and can do other things to get entertainment too.

This is what gamblers need to realize so that they don't get too deep into gambling. By understanding the meaning of gambling as entertainment, they just need to have fun for a certain time and after that, they should immediately stop gambling. By doing it continuously like that, their mindset will not change into wanting to gamble any longer.

They will have their limits so they don't need to use self-exclusion. They can determine how long they gamble and how much money they can use for gambling. We have to determine it and not gambling that determines how long we gamble.

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January 24, 2024, 01:32:33 AM
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We have to determine it and not gambling that determines how long we gamble.

That's why self exclusion works and helps.
It's like you locking your money in a fixed deposit, call it CD in America, savings account in the UK, or however you call or refer to it globally.

Where the money is not touchable you cannot gamble it, then the money sits and gains interest with far lower risks than "all or nothing" on some over/under bet, or spread, or total, or side, money line, tennis player or what's not.

Still, the majority of the responses here seem to claim people should be able to control themselves without relying on such solutions, I'm truly wondering if you guys ever spend 5 minutes reading the "problemgambling" Reddit for instance, read this one for instance:

https://www.reddit.com/r/problemgambling/comments/19e4lm7/does_self_exclusion_help/

See what problems gamblers have to say about it.

Why so many of you keep on going against the wall, against this "brick" and keep on fighting and arguing with the notion here that is telling you so simply and so straightforward that some gamblers find self-exclusion as extremely helpful?!

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January 25, 2024, 02:54:13 AM
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This is the idea that I am talking about a couple of weeks ago  Grin to get rid of gambling addiction or at least staying on your budget. and it actually worked on me Tho it is not recommended to keep your money in centralized exchange but I do it anyway  Grin so basically I buy a near token with and lock it for 120 days and just yesterday I lost 275$ and I want deposit more my solana that 25$ goes all in and lost I too iwant to wd my near but I locked so Im safe at least for now hahah
if you are going to lose 275 dollars each time and twice a week? then you are spending much for that mate and better to learn hor to control your self.

It just hit me bro Im trying to deposit more so I just locked my money by buying near and locked it for 120 days that is why How i control myself haha.

So just deposit only that you can afford to lose stay on your budget and throw away your additional money and don't deposit more that is what Im talking about

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January 25, 2024, 06:36:03 AM
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Why so many of you keep on going against the wall, against this "brick" and keep on fighting and arguing with the notion here that is telling you so simply and so straightforward that some gamblers find self-exclusion as extremely helpful?!

 Huh
I think everything will still be related to the profits and losses obtained, I personally think anything that does not provide benefits is something that must be fought or suppressed to be avoided.
Self-exclusion will only be carried out by few gamblers because if we take into account the percentage of gamblers then we will find quite significant differences, especially for online gambling then self-exclusion will feel more important.
We will always maintain security for ourselves personally and of course if we are not the ones who start it then it will never be possible to achieve this security. Several cases have occurred and experienced by several gamblers on gambling sites whose reputation may still not be tested.
This is also very important in term of sustainability in gambling, we must prioritize places that can be trusted and relied on to be able to have that stability.

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January 25, 2024, 07:55:11 AM
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This is the idea that I am talking about a couple of weeks ago  Grin to get rid of gambling addiction or at least staying on your budget. and it actually worked on me Tho it is not recommended to keep your money in centralized exchange but I do it anyway  Grin so basically I buy a near token with and lock it for 120 days and just yesterday I lost 275$ and I want deposit more my solana that 25$ goes all in and lost I too iwant to wd my near but I locked so Im safe at least for now hahah
if you are going to lose 275 dollars each time and twice a week? then you are spending much for that mate and better to learn hor to control your self.

It just hit me bro Im trying to deposit more so I just locked my money by buying near and locked it for 120 days that is why How i control myself haha.

So just deposit only that you can afford to lose stay on your budget and throw away your additional money and don't deposit more that is what Im talking about
Lol...But as laughable as this approach is, if a gambler can still position himself to make it work, it might work, but not for all. For it to be weak is the issue, but can still heal or control some gamblers to do the right thing nonetheless. I am certain that it will be very few it can help though, which makes it not a potent approach. Again, this is a risky approach, it will force you to lock your money in a scheme you do not have absolute control over, but what if something bad happens to the scheme and you want to make a panic withdrawal? This will never be possible unless the 21 days lapse, which is so discouraging.

Also, people who are truly addicted to gambling will see this as a waste of time as it will not be able to heal their wrong psychology. For the money they think they keep, this will be a temporary setback as more money would be sorted out from elsewhere and the gambling will continue still. I think that it is not about keeping or locking one's money that would effectively solve gambling addiction, it is just like cutting the grass from the surface and not the root, it will get back to what it was before the cutting, and it is only a question of time. What I believe is the solution is to be willing to change, while enforcing it one way or another is a good bet to make it happen.

One can do it by themselves if they are willing but the Willpower must be there. If they can't do it all by themselves, they can seek the help of others like their friends, family or experts in the field that deals with mental health and psychological issues. It is never the end for anyone who is facing the challenges of gambling addiction, but first, they should be more occupied with something else, earn a decent amount of money from other sources, believe that gambling is not a dependable source to make money and also fight it within, which is where the Willpower comes in. If anyone can be so determined and disciplined to do all those, then their gambling addiction will soon be a forgotten issue.

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January 25, 2024, 08:10:46 AM
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I think everything will still be related to the profits and losses obtained, I personally think anything that does not provide benefits is something that must be fought or suppressed to be avoided.
Self-exclusion will only be carried out by few gamblers because if we take into account the percentage of gamblers then we will find quite significant differences, especially for online gambling then self-exclusion will feel more important.
We will always maintain security for ourselves personally and of course if we are not the ones who start it then it will never be possible to achieve this security. Several cases have occurred and experienced by several gamblers on gambling sites whose reputation may still not be tested.
This is also very important in term of sustainability in gambling, we must prioritize places that can be trusted and relied on to be able to have that stability.
So you're saying that because using a staking method to self-exclude is risky to most gamblers, hence why do they prefer not to do it instead? Isn't it a bit overkill to deny self-exclusion completely just because you might lose your money due to a faulty smart contract though? There are also other options to lock your money such as using time-locked transaction on BTC, so you don't have to trust a staking platform or something similar. If anything, if you prefer to keep gambling and hope that you somehow manage to control your addiction with no help, I think that just shows that you're being addicted for real.

If I'm not reading your post wrong, your second sentence basically said that some people fall to security incidents on some untrusted/new websites, hence why they should look for reputable ones if they want to use their money. I agree to some extent, but that doesn't mean they don't use features like self-exclusion that are provided by the platform at all. CMMIW.

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January 25, 2024, 01:11:13 PM
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What a person is exposed to is really impotant. Its effect might not really be known until it starts to play out. Just like the music that plays in the bus that you don't like but you are forced to as long as you keep using the bus, then you start mimicking the song and humming it and then unconsciously, it becomes your thing.

Cut off everything that connects you to what you don't want, and don't be apologetic about it.

You're right, life is fare a d simple, but we tend to approach it from the difficult aspect maybe in some cases, we can always get involved in what we like a d not necessarily be forced into it, we have our own freedom to use, if we are not given then we should take it and have it for ourselves, gambling should be done with the best of what excites us while on it, this is something we owe no one accountable for than ourselves.
Not only so. We accountable for our families and they accountable for us. We can`t do everything we want easily. If you can gamble for fun, can stop any moment and even don`t think about it - it isn`t a problem. But some gamblers can`t stop and lose all the money and time in casino. As result they lose their family.

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You can watch this video from 07:20 if you want to skip on the other parts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxty2XhTwVI

Basically it's very simple.

You take a currency that requires 21 days for staking/unstaking, then you deposit this amount in Atomic Wallet, stake it and then you can't gamble with the crypto you're holding.

The locking (staking) is done with one single click of a button, and it's practically speaking, equivalent to activation of self-exclusion on an online gambling site with a click of a button (and yet not all sites offer it unfortunately).

For example, you stake (lock) $200 of your crypto, and that's all crypto available for you - then you can't play/gamble/risk it for at least 21 days ... do it 15 times a year time after time, and you would be excluded for a long time.

The only drawback with this method is Atomic doesn't offer this on USDT so some "gamblers" might not like this idea because they trust stablecoins more than other crypto coins, but this is FYI.


If you are really eager to exclude yourself from gambling then the first step you need to do is stop visiting the gambling section of this forum. Since you will stop seeing a lot of promotion so for sure it can lower down your interest to gamble. Also you can make yourself busy on other things like focusing on investment since for this for sure you will never think about gambling but rather you will just find new things that can possibly give you some profit like investing on new alts or trade with the crypto you want to follow.

Doing what you mention could possibly exclude yourself to gamble but for sure you can still receive another funds and if you can't do anything with it for sure you would still think about to gamble since you might get bored for not doing anything.

Exactly !!
I totally agree to this option of yours, and yes its gonna be of great help to everyone in the gambling world.first of all is to exclude yourself from any sites that can link you or make you to stake.

And again i think its self determination,once your  mind is at doing a particular thing,honestly nothing can hinder your progress,but when the reverse is the case.you end up seeing yourself revolving around same boat.

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January 25, 2024, 01:22:29 PM
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What a person is exposed to is really impotant. Its effect might not really be known until it starts to play out. Just like the music that plays in the bus that you don't like but you are forced to as long as you keep using the bus, then you start mimicking the song and humming it and then unconsciously, it becomes your thing.

Cut off everything that connects you to what you don't want, and don't be apologetic about it.

You're right, life is fare a d simple, but we tend to approach it from the difficult aspect maybe in some cases, we can always get involved in what we like a d not necessarily be forced into it, we have our own freedom to use, if we are not given then we should take it and have it for ourselves, gambling should be done with the best of what excites us while on it, this is something we owe no one accountable for than ourselves.
Not only so. We accountable for our families and they accountable for us. We can`t do everything we want easily. If you can gamble for fun, can stop any moment and even don`t think about it - it isn`t a problem. But some gamblers can`t stop and lose all the money and time in casino. As result they lose their family.
Well, only a fool will place gambling over his or her family, a friend of mine from way back lost his family and son, that is, the woman could no longer take the man spending every dime he earns on gambling, and when the woman herself tries to save money on her own for the need of the family, the man will use the money to gamble if he eventually stumbled and discovered where his wife hid money.

This thing did continued to happen for several times on several occasions, I personally have settled the both of them many times, but one day, the woman packed her belongings, took the son and they went away while the man was at work, she did not tell anybody where she was going, this thing happened in 2018 and till date, no body knows the where about of the woman and my friends son, my friend have lived in regrets all this years, and it's all what addiction to gambling cost him.

Family is very important, we are supposed to give more attention and commit more resources to our family and their welfare, than we do for gambling.

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January 26, 2024, 10:58:42 AM
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Not only so. We accountable for our families and they accountable for us. We can`t do everything we want easily. If you can gamble for fun, can stop any moment and even don`t think about it - it isn`t a problem. But some gamblers can`t stop and lose all the money and time in casino. As result they lose their family.
Well, only a fool will place gambling over his or her family, a friend of mine from way back lost his family and son, that is, the woman could no longer take the man spending every dime he earns on gambling, and when the woman herself tries to save money on her own for the need of the family, the man will use the money to gamble if he eventually stumbled and discovered where his wife hid money.

This thing did continued to happen for several times on several occasions, I personally have settled the both of them many times, but one day, the woman packed her belongings, took the son and they went away while the man was at work, she did not tell anybody where she was going, this thing happened in 2018 and till date, no body knows the where about of the woman and my friends son, my friend have lived in regrets all this years, and it's all what addiction to gambling cost him.

Family is very important, we are supposed to give more attention and commit more resources to our family and their welfare, than we do for gambling.
The problem is that we don`t think about it until it is too late. For the main part of the gamblers it isn`t a problem and they don`t think about it.
I think that your friend wasn`t a fool, but as the result he lost everything. And we must remember that such situation is possible. I can`t say that i spend much time in casino, but i asks sometimes my wife is it ok. She understand that it helps me to relax and i don`t lose much money or time and every time answers that it`s ok.

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January 26, 2024, 11:44:18 AM
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Not only so. We accountable for our families and they accountable for us. We can`t do everything we want easily. If you can gamble for fun, can stop any moment and even don`t think about it - it isn`t a problem. But some gamblers can`t stop and lose all the money and time in casino. As result they lose their family.
Well, only a fool will place gambling over his or her family, a friend of mine from way back lost his family and son, that is, the woman could no longer take the man spending every dime he earns on gambling, and when the woman herself tries to save money on her own for the need of the family, the man will use the money to gamble if he eventually stumbled and discovered where his wife hid money.

This thing did continued to happen for several times on several occasions, I personally have settled the both of them many times, but one day, the woman packed her belongings, took the son and they went away while the man was at work, she did not tell anybody where she was going, this thing happened in 2018 and till date, no body knows the where about of the woman and my friends son, my friend have lived in regrets all this years, and it's all what addiction to gambling cost him.

Family is very important, we are supposed to give more attention and commit more resources to our family and their welfare, than we do for gambling.
The problem is that we don`t think about it until it is too late. For the main part of the gamblers it isn`t a problem and they don`t think about it.
I think that your friend wasn`t a fool, but as the result he lost everything. And we must remember that such situation is possible. I can`t say that i spend much time in casino, but i asks sometimes my wife is it ok. She understand that it helps me to relax and i don`t lose much money or time and every time answers that it`s ok.
If a gambler can control his emotions and have a discipline then one thing for sure It is A very good. Because we are all know that gambler don't spend too much time and money like you mate, cause what's in your mind is you will gamble for fun only and you don't mind if you will lose or win cause you gamble what you afford to lose and that is a very good example. But still it depends on the gambler itself if he will have a discipline or not cause if not then addiction will come for sure.

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Doing what you mention could possibly exclude yourself to gamble but for sure you can still receive another funds and if you can't do anything with it for sure you would still think about to gamble since you might get bored for not doing anything.

Exactly !!
I totally agree to this option of yours, and yes its gonna be of great help to everyone in the gambling world.first of all is to exclude yourself from any sites that can link you or make you to stake.
Hope that it is just easy as that , but I Know how hard to exclude yourself from site because indeed that it is easy to act but to stand on that? are we really gonna have this for long because the many gamblers that tries tooo do such ended being a loser and going back to the addiction.

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And again i think its self determination,once your  mind is at doing a particular thing,honestly nothing can hinder your progress,but when the reverse is the case.you end up seeing yourself revolving around same boat.
Self determination , and self perseverance that will save us all and will make us all to the plan and outcome.

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January 26, 2024, 01:02:38 PM
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Not only so. We accountable for our families and they accountable for us. We can`t do everything we want easily. If you can gamble for fun, can stop any moment and even don`t think about it - it isn`t a problem. But some gamblers can`t stop and lose all the money and time in casino. As result they lose their family.
Well, only a fool will place gambling over his or her family, a friend of mine from way back lost his family and son, that is, the woman could no longer take the man spending every dime he earns on gambling, and when the woman herself tries to save money on her own for the need of the family, the man will use the money to gamble if he eventually stumbled and discovered where his wife hid money.

This thing did continued to happen for several times on several occasions, I personally have settled the both of them many times, but one day, the woman packed her belongings, took the son and they went away while the man was at work, she did not tell anybody where she was going, this thing happened in 2018 and till date, no body knows the where about of the woman and my friends son, my friend have lived in regrets all this years, and it's all what addiction to gambling cost him.

Family is very important, we are supposed to give more attention and commit more resources to our family and their welfare, than we do for gambling.
The problem is that we don`t think about it until it is too late. For the main part of the gamblers it isn`t a problem and they don`t think about it.
I think that your friend wasn`t a fool, but as the result he lost everything. And we must remember that such situation is possible. I can`t say that i spend much time in casino, but i asks sometimes my wife is it ok. She understand that it helps me to relax and i don`t lose much money or time and every time answers that it`s ok.
If a gambler can control his emotions and have a discipline then one thing for sure It is A very good. Because we are all know that gambler don't spend too much time and money like you mate, cause what's in your mind is you will gamble for fun only and you don't mind if you will lose or win cause you gamble what you afford to lose and that is a very good example. But still it depends on the gambler itself if he will have a discipline or not cause if not then addiction will come for sure.
I have always said that when it comes to gambling, it's important for gamblers to know exactly what they want to avoid conflict of interest.
For example, some gamblers say that they are just gambling for fun, but when they lose money, we see them making more and more depositing in a bid to try to recover that which they have lost, in such a situation, the gambler have shifted from his or her main interest in gambling, which is to just have fun, to chasing after wins, which is money.

Most of gamblers in this category most times end up in regrets because first, their inability to stick to their gambling interest shows lack of discipline and will power to sticking to his or her decisions.
So, for me, this is one area I also think gambler need to watch it.

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January 26, 2024, 05:58:49 PM
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Not only so. We accountable for our families and they accountable for us. We can`t do everything we want easily. If you can gamble for fun, can stop any moment and even don`t think about it - it isn`t a problem. But some gamblers can`t stop and lose all the money and time in casino. As result they lose their family.
Well, only a fool will place gambling over his or her family, a friend of mine from way back lost his family and son, that is, the woman could no longer take the man spending every dime he earns on gambling, and when the woman herself tries to save money on her own for the need of the family, the man will use the money to gamble if he eventually stumbled and discovered where his wife hid money.

This thing did continued to happen for several times on several occasions, I personally have settled the both of them many times, but one day, the woman packed her belongings, took the son and they went away while the man was at work, she did not tell anybody where she was going, this thing happened in 2018 and till date, no body knows the where about of the woman and my friends son, my friend have lived in regrets all this years, and it's all what addiction to gambling cost him.

Family is very important, we are supposed to give more attention and commit more resources to our family and their welfare, than we do for gambling.
The problem is that we don`t think about it until it is too late. For the main part of the gamblers it isn`t a problem and they don`t think about it.
I think that your friend wasn`t a fool, but as the result he lost everything. And we must remember that such situation is possible. I can`t say that i spend much time in casino, but i asks sometimes my wife is it ok. She understand that it helps me to relax and i don`t lose much money or time and every time answers that it`s ok.
If a gambler can control his emotions and have a discipline then one thing for sure It is A very good. Because we are all know that gambler don't spend too much time and money like you mate, cause what's in your mind is you will gamble for fun only and you don't mind if you will lose or win cause you gamble what you afford to lose and that is a very good example. But still it depends on the gambler itself if he will have a discipline or not cause if not then addiction will come for sure.
I have always said that when it comes to gambling, it's important for gamblers to know exactly what they want to avoid conflict of interest.
For example, some gamblers say that they are just gambling for fun, but when they lose money, we see them making more and more depositing in a bid to try to recover that which they have lost, in such a situation, the gambler have shifted from his or her main interest in gambling, which is to just have fun, to chasing after wins, which is money.

Most of gamblers in this category most times end up in regrets because first, their inability to stick to their gambling interest shows lack of discipline and will power to sticking to his or her decisions.
So, for me, this is one area I also think gambler need to watch it.

Yes, it is always good to have an idea that there are people who are very Particular about things in order to have money, and of course, there are Many who Always go to the casino with those excuses, to have fun, enjoy and do any type of thing , They may feel better playing any type of game, but what they don't have is order in their weekends, if there is no order in our money for a casino, things become like an ant, because without self-knowledge things can go down quickly, for example. That's when we are looking for ways to clearly have a correct perspective on the casinos and know how to play so we don't get discouraged, in this order of ideas we must have the calm so that when we sit down to play, we don't lose our patience. In each game session we can determine how we can work , if we are not Clear about how we are going to play things can Translate into many Losses.

That is why I have Always said that the best strategy for these Things will always be for us to do things Better , that is, to allocate our money Willing to lose , not to go over that Money and try to enjoy, if you lose what you have to and assume that If you lose and if you win, well, you have to withdraw, you don't have to think about it, it's simple, you just have to make the right decision and do the right thing, but with the money, there is no other way, if we do things well with our Money Well, we will not have problems at all, however without money in a casino things will always go Wrong , this is something logical, for this we have to assume that we must be very aware that when we are in a casino things must be treated in a way different , I personally will always say that if we don't take care of the Money in the casino , no one will take care of it for us, and that we are the owners of our actions.

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January 26, 2024, 07:45:02 PM
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Not only so. We accountable for our families and they accountable for us. We can`t do everything we want easily. If you can gamble for fun, can stop any moment and even don`t think about it - it isn`t a problem. But some gamblers can`t stop and lose all the money and time in casino. As result they lose their family.
Well, only a fool will place gambling over his or her family, a friend of mine from way back lost his family and son, that is, the woman could no longer take the man spending every dime he earns on gambling, and when the woman herself tries to save money on her own for the need of the family, the man will use the money to gamble if he eventually stumbled and discovered where his wife hid money.

This thing did continued to happen for several times on several occasions, I personally have settled the both of them many times, but one day, the woman packed her belongings, took the son and they went away while the man was at work, she did not tell anybody where she was going, this thing happened in 2018 and till date, no body knows the where about of the woman and my friends son, my friend have lived in regrets all this years, and it's all what addiction to gambling cost him.

Family is very important, we are supposed to give more attention and commit more resources to our family and their welfare, than we do for gambling.
The problem is that we don`t think about it until it is too late. For the main part of the gamblers it isn`t a problem and they don`t think about it.
I think that your friend wasn`t a fool, but as the result he lost everything. And we must remember that such situation is possible. I can`t say that i spend much time in casino, but i asks sometimes my wife is it ok. She understand that it helps me to relax and i don`t lose much money or time and every time answers that it`s ok.
If a gambler can control his emotions and have a discipline then one thing for sure It is A very good. Because we are all know that gambler don't spend too much time and money like you mate, cause what's in your mind is you will gamble for fun only and you don't mind if you will lose or win cause you gamble what you afford to lose and that is a very good example. But still it depends on the gambler itself if he will have a discipline or not cause if not then addiction will come for sure.
You wont really be needing any exclusions if you are really that just simply making yourself that having self control. You wont really be needing those kind of steps to be done
if you are really just that mindful about those things specially on doing the right one then you wont really be ending up on disastrous thing on which there are really just those people who
are really cant be able to control themselves and ended up on making those bad decisions in life because of something that they cant really be able to make viable
decisions in life. This is why it would really be that best that you should really know at least on whats good and whats bad.It all matters with self control.
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January 26, 2024, 08:05:10 PM
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What a person is exposed to is really impotant. Its effect might not really be known until it starts to play out. Just like the music that plays in the bus that you don't like but you are forced to as long as you keep using the bus, then you start mimicking the song and humming it and then unconsciously, it becomes your thing.

Cut off everything that connects you to what you don't want, and don't be apologetic about it.

You're right, life is fare a d simple, but we tend to approach it from the difficult aspect maybe in some cases, we can always get involved in what we like a d not necessarily be forced into it, we have our own freedom to use, if we are not given then we should take it and have it for ourselves, gambling should be done with the best of what excites us while on it, this is something we owe no one accountable for than ourselves.
Not only so. We accountable for our families and they accountable for us. We can`t do everything we want easily. If you can gamble for fun, can stop any moment and even don`t think about it - it isn`t a problem. But some gamblers can`t stop and lose all the money and time in casino. As result they lose their family.
Well, only a fool will place gambling over his or her family, a friend of mine from way back lost his family and son, that is, the woman could no longer take the man spending every dime he earns on gambling, and when the woman herself tries to save money on her own for the need of the family, the man will use the money to gamble if he eventually stumbled and discovered where his wife hid money.

This thing did continued to happen for several times on several occasions, I personally have settled the both of them many times, but one day, the woman packed her belongings, took the son and they went away while the man was at work, she did not tell anybody where she was going, this thing happened in 2018 and till date, no body knows the where about of the woman and my friends son, my friend have lived in regrets all this years, and it's all what addiction to gambling cost him.

Family is very important, we are supposed to give more attention and commit more resources to our family and their welfare, than we do for gambling.

When things get tougher on us from without, we are going to finally finds out way back home to the family as the last hope, so why can't we give them the very attention they may require from us,, listen to them and value their unique presence together with us, it also annoys that you will see some gambler who don't care about their relatives and when they win, they enjoy spending all their money with outsiders which is very bad.



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January 26, 2024, 10:02:37 PM
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You wont really be needing any exclusions if you are really that just simply making yourself that having self control. You wont really be needing those kind of steps to be done

Self control is not enough for many, this is just wrong.

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January 27, 2024, 10:08:41 AM
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You wont really be needing any exclusions if you are really that just simply making yourself that having self control. You wont really be needing those kind of steps to be done

Self control is not enough for many, this is just wrong.

OP, I think you are the one that is wrong here, maybe you wanted to say that it is not everybody who will be able to attain the level of self-control in gambling, and not that self-control is not enough, it is absolutely enough to keep gamblers in check. If you can control yourself about gambling, what else do you need? Locking the money for days? Hahaha, that is what I can term wrong, not self-control. What I would like you to know is that gambling addiction as it implies is a thing of psychology, the same goes for self-control, and not the self-exclusion that will only deny the gambler of that particular money in your case but will not heal the addiction itself. What tells you that the gambler will not go behind the back of your type of scheme to gamble again with other available money? This shows that he can only deceive himself in your own way because it never heals the psychology of the guy but only tries to force him to keep the money somewhere and not touch it.

But for self-control, if one can attain it, there will be no need to bother about the self-exclusion of a thing, you will be able to avoid what you do not want in gambling because you have your own mind and you can control yourself. This also means that the person is disciplined enough to control himself on what he wants and what he doesn't want in gambling. I do not think there's a better bargain for gamblers than this. But the only issue is how to be self-disciplined to have self-control enforced. It is not often easy for many to achieve.

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January 27, 2024, 08:16:43 PM
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The problem is that we don`t think about it until it is too late. For the main part of the gamblers it isn`t a problem and they don`t think about it.
I think that your friend wasn`t a fool, but as the result he lost everything. And we must remember that such situation is possible. I can`t say that i spend much time in casino, but i asks sometimes my wife is it ok. She understand that it helps me to relax and i don`t lose much money or time and every time answers that it`s ok.
If a gambler can control his emotions and have a discipline then one thing for sure It is A very good. Because we are all know that gambler don't spend too much time and money like you mate, cause what's in your mind is you will gamble for fun only and you don't mind if you will lose or win cause you gamble what you afford to lose and that is a very good example. But still it depends on the gambler itself if he will have a discipline or not cause if not then addiction will come for sure.
I can talk only about myself. I don`t understand what is gambling addiction. I read about it, but to understand i have to feel it. And around me i see the same - no one gambling addict. That`s why i think that it is impossible. But we see news about gambling addicts, it means that it is possible. That`s why we are talking about it. May be i`m rude, but i think that it is only their problem - gambling addicts and their family. They must solve this problem themselves, without help of community. We can only give advice. It is awful to read about such situations but they have to solve it themselves - first of all because they have to understand that it is a problem.

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January 27, 2024, 08:54:59 PM
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You wont really be needing any exclusions if you are really that just simply making yourself that having self control. You wont really be needing those kind of steps to be done

Self control is not enough for many, this is just wrong.

OP, I think you are the one that is wrong here, maybe you wanted to say that it is not everybody who will be able to attain the level of self-control in gambling, and not that self-control is not enough, it is absolutely enough to keep gamblers in check. If you can control yourself about gambling, what else do you need? Locking the money for days? Hahaha, that is what I can term wrong, not self-control. What I would like you to know is that gambling addiction as it implies is a thing of psychology, the same goes for self-control, and not the self-exclusion that will only deny the gambler of that particular money in your case but will not heal the addiction itself. What tells you that the gambler will not go behind the back of your type of scheme to gamble again with other available money? This shows that he can only deceive himself in your own way because it never heals the psychology of the guy but only tries to force him to keep the money somewhere and not touch it.

But for self-control, if one can attain it, there will be no need to bother about the self-exclusion of a thing, you will be able to avoid what you do not want in gambling because you have your own mind and you can control yourself. This also means that the person is disciplined enough to control himself on what he wants and what he doesn't want in gambling. I do not think there's a better bargain for gamblers than this. But the only issue is how to be self-disciplined to have self-control enforced. It is not often easy for many to achieve.
Drawing out some conclusions basing up on what majority behavior are showing then he do have a point that it cant just work or possible but its true that it doesnt mean that people would be neglecting it out.
We are humans on which we do really have that different approach into things on which there are moments which might be known about on the risks but we do just simply ignore it and continue on what we are doing.
Self control is relevant but just been said  that not all people would really be having the capacity on doing so or simply not just enough because they cant just really not able to do so.
This is why alternative actions or methods or ways would really be something that needed up to be done instead.

Staking method is also that viable or could be possible on stopping yourself on playing gambling but it would really be that so damn hard on trying out
to make it happen specially if you do still have money left in your pocket on which you would be finding ways to play again.

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