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March 20, 2024, 11:23:34 PM
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I personally don't see staying away from gambling as something that requires too much help efforts or advice as long as the individual involved make up their mind to gamble within the set rules and limits, this is very important because everything starts and ends with the gamblers not the casino or anyone else.
Casinos are out to make revenue/money and that there will act accordingly with the gamblers desires and request, if you control yourself away from gambling excessively it up for you, and if you over gamble also it up for you, so the responsibility to gamble within a set rules is what stands for you at the end and how you best stay off active gambling.

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March 21, 2024, 07:27:07 PM
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The problem is that with such flexible rules we sometimes forget the initial rules that we made and we have to obey because in the end with the emergence of the thought that it doesn't really matter if we increase the amount of deposits we make in gambling or continue to gamble when our conditions are not too likely to be able to get a win just because of changes in the initial plan because of having flexibility in the rules that we have it will invite some conditions that are not too good for ourselves in the gambling that is done.
Its not really a problem to set flexible rules but if something like this becomes a habit then when we break the rules that we have set before it will actually create another situation where we have a budget that is more in the end and over time sometimes we will set a new budget amount in gambling even though it is already bigger than what we did before .

Plans change and rules change on which it could really be anytime be altered as much as we can and this is why it would really be that just depending on how well you would really be having that kind of
control in this regard or into this kind of situation. Self exclusions and other possible stopping for you to gamble wont really be that something effective if you yourself having that kind of
no control when it comes this manner. Speaking about rules then its up to you whether you would really be following it out strictly or not on which it would really be just that be depending on you
on where not all would really be having the control when it comes to this and this is something that we should really be looking into.
I don't deny that it is still very possible to change but in the end we also have to know about our own qualifications whether we are indeed capable of doing that or not because this needs emphasis to see the extent of our abilities. Indeed, such things can still be done if we can control ourselves well but if in the end it doesn't go well and we get carried away because we are used to changing the rules then it is we ourselves who will lose, especially in increasing deposits in gambling.
Control is important and surely everyone will say this but in the end not everyone can do it well because there can be some unexpected situations where we who often say that we are able to control gambling actually unconsciously we are the ones who have been controlled by the gambling we play.

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March 22, 2024, 08:07:32 AM
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I personally don't see staying away from gambling as something that requires too much help efforts or advice as long as the individual involved make up their mind to gamble within the set rules and limits, this is very important because everything starts and ends with the gamblers not the casino or anyone else.
Casinos are out to make revenue/money and that there will act accordingly with the gamblers desires and request, if you control yourself away from gambling excessively it up for you, and if you over gamble also it up for you, so the responsibility to gamble within a set rules is what stands for you at the end and how you best stay off active gambling.
You talk like someone who is sensible and has the Willpower towards gambling. But do you think everybody is sensible and possesses the same characteristics? This is why people will not be able to act the same or make attitudinal changes the same way and this is very challenging to some people than you view it. You are talking like this simply because you have your own mind and are not addicted to gambling, but it is a different story for other people. Also, when you have a means to making money other than gambling and you are not such that is desperate for money due to one thing or the other, then you are far better than many other people who are facing the opposite of that.

Many are desperate to gamble and make money for the pressing money needed. They believe that since some people have hit that Jackpot, they can hit it as well. But before they know it, they continue to waste money due to the lack of proper orientation about gambling and the psychology used towards it. Had it been it was some people, they would have sensed the danger and reverted their steps, but such people are such that are smart and wise, they are conscious of what they do and also possess strong minds that will help their Willpower to say Yes when they want it and No when they do not want it. But people with these characteristics may not be common in the society.

I hope you get it now, it is for their benefit to change, but in most cases, they do not have the chance to change on their own unless they find help. That is if the help can be helpful at all because this thing is in stages.

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March 22, 2024, 10:06:24 AM
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Following the rules at the casino is a must because we gamble at the casino and if we don't follow the rules, we could experience difficulties later. Even though you have a lot of experience in gambling at many casinos, you still need to pay attention and study and know the rules at each casino so that you won't experience difficulties later. You also don't need to self-exclude if you can control yourself well while gambling, especially if you can learn and practice it. But if you find it difficult to control yourself, you should activate the self-exclusion feature so you don't experience any difficulties.

The gambling platform cannot bend their rules for us, we are the ones to comply to every words written concerning their rules and regulations, if we didn't adhere strictly to them, we may not be able to enjoy having full access to so many of their services and this is part of the reason why many accounts are made disabled because of non compliance to their rules, i expect us to first go with this and see that we can fulfil all their terms before using them from the start.
and sometimes they are bending the rules to favor them? lol that is what made it unfair
in this part but this will also make them looks suspicious and will lessen their supporters and
players.and also even if you are complying to anything but if the site is not worthy of our
trust then that will end for nothing but to favor the site itself.


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March 22, 2024, 12:15:52 PM
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I personally don't see staying away from gambling as something that requires too much help efforts or advice as long as the individual involved make up their mind to gamble within the set rules and limits, this is very important because everything starts and ends with the gamblers not the casino or anyone else.

that is an easy words if we are not a addicted gambler but if we are engaging too much in gambling we knew that we have to deal with really hard position in gambling.
I experienced this once and I know how hard it is.


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Casinos are out to make revenue/money and that there will act accordingly with the gamblers desires and request, if you control yourself away from gambling excessively it up for you, and if you over gamble also it up for you, so the responsibility to gamble within a set rules is what stands for you at the end and how you best stay off active gambling.
gambling sites are just giving us chance to leave gambling but we will never go stand on that because the more they let leave gambling is the more depositors they will end.









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March 23, 2024, 11:10:49 AM
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I personally don't see staying away from gambling as something that requires too much help efforts or advice as long as the individual involved make up their mind to gamble within the set rules and limits, this is very important because everything starts and ends with the gamblers not the casino or anyone else.
Casinos are out to make revenue/money and that there will act accordingly with the gamblers desires and request, if you control yourself away from gambling excessively it up for you, and if you over gamble also it up for you, so the responsibility to gamble within a set rules is what stands for you at the end and how you best stay off active gambling.
Surely it is so. The problem is with gambler and if he has some problems - he must make decision himself. Or, if he can`t  - his friends and family can help him, may be doctor. We don`t close distilleries because someone has  problems with alcohol. The casino just an instrument and only the gambler decides how to use it.

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March 23, 2024, 04:57:13 PM
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I personally don't see staying away from gambling as something that requires too much help efforts or advice as long as the individual involved make up their mind to gamble within the set rules and limits, this is very important because everything starts and ends with the gamblers not the casino or anyone else.
Casinos are out to make revenue/money and that there will act accordingly with the gamblers desires and request, if you control yourself away from gambling excessively it up for you, and if you over gamble also it up for you, so the responsibility to gamble within a set rules is what stands for you at the end and how you best stay off active gambling.
Surely it is so. The problem is with gambler and if he has some problems - he must make decision himself. Or, if he can`t  - his friends and family can help him, may be doctor. We don`t close distilleries because someone has  problems with alcohol. The casino just an instrument and only the gambler decides how to use it.
On the time that a gambler would really be coming into a point that you are already that spending up too much on gambling then this is where problems do start to begin and this is something
where things turns out to be messy then this is where you would be making realizations and not before things do happen. If you are really that serious on quitting then you could really actually
quit and if you are tending to have a break then you could actually do it and this is something which is really very that possible and would be basing up on someones self control.

Self exclusion isnt always that available for most gambling sites but you could actually ask or request on blocking or locking up your account but just like been said by
others is that you would really be still playing if you cant really be able to make have that kind of control towards your playing.

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March 23, 2024, 05:38:29 PM
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I personally don't see staying away from gambling as something that requires too much help efforts or advice as long as the individual involved make up their mind to gamble within the set rules and limits, this is very important because everything starts and ends with the gamblers not the casino or anyone else.
Casinos are out to make revenue/money and that there will act accordingly with the gamblers desires and request, if you control yourself away from gambling excessively it up for you, and if you over gamble also it up for you, so the responsibility to gamble within a set rules is what stands for you at the end and how you best stay off active gambling.
Surely it is so. The problem is with gambler and if he has some problems - he must make decision himself. Or, if he can`t  - his friends and family can help him, may be doctor. We don`t close distilleries because someone has  problems with alcohol. The casino just an instrument and only the gambler decides how to use it.
Yeah, casinos have absolutely nothing to do with people getting addicted to gambling, it is already stated that gamblers should gamble responsibly, if anyone in the cause of them being overly greedy to win more money, get addicted to gambling, it is absolutely out of place to blame the casino.

For no one blames cigarettes companies for producing more and more cigarettes not minding the thousand of deaths that are recorded every year around the world out of tuberculosis, or should we talk about those who drink too much alcohol, get drunk, hit the road in their car and die in an accident, alongside some other unlucky victims of the  accident, no body is blaming the brewery companies that produce those alcoholic products.

Why then should anyone be blaming casinos for addicted gamblers? Anyone can get addicted to anything they engage themselves in too much above the normal limit, it's no fault of the platform that provide such service.

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I personally don't see staying away from gambling as something that requires too much help efforts or advice as long as the individual involved make up their mind to gamble within the set rules and limits, this is very important because everything starts and ends with the gamblers not the casino or anyone else.
Casinos are out to make revenue/money and that there will act accordingly with the gamblers desires and request, if you control yourself away from gambling excessively it up for you, and if you over gamble also it up for you, so the responsibility to gamble within a set rules is what stands for you at the end and how you best stay off active gambling.
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March 24, 2024, 12:11:58 PM
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and sometimes they are bending the rules to favor them? lol that is what made it unfair
in this part but this will also make them looks suspicious and will lessen their supporters and
players.and also even if you are complying to anything but if the site is not worthy of our
trust then that will end for nothing but to favor the site itself.



      -   It seems that what is happening is that there is simple cheating, something that most communities do not want in the field of such games in situations like that.
It's really hard to play a game like that with favoritism to be honest.

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and sometimes they are bending the rules to favor them? lol that is what made it unfair
in this part but this will also make them looks suspicious and will lessen their supporters and
players.and also even if you are complying to anything but if the site is not worthy of our
trust then that will end for nothing but to favor the site itself.

It seems that what is happening is that there is simple cheating, something that most communities do not want in the field of such games in situations like that.
It's really hard to play a game like that with favoritism to be honest.


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March 25, 2024, 08:17:08 AM
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and sometimes they are bending the rules to favor them? lol that is what made it unfair
in this part but this will also make them looks suspicious and will lessen their supporters and
players.and also even if you are complying to anything but if the site is not worthy of our
trust then that will end for nothing but to favor the site itself.



      -   It seems that what is happening is that there is simple cheating, something that most communities do not want in the field of such games in situations like that.
It's really hard to play a game like that with favoritism to be honest.
well if that is favoritism then that is ok but the problem is that the abuse mate and that is what the most issues most gamblers is facing  and indeed that we should not tolerate that abusing from gambling site.


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and sometimes they are bending the rules to favor them? lol that is what made it unfair
in this part but this will also make them looks suspicious and will lessen their supporters and
players.and also even if you are complying to anything but if the site is not worthy of our
trust then that will end for nothing but to favor the site itself.

It seems that what is happening is that there is simple cheating, something that most communities do not want in the field of such games in situations like that.
It's really hard to play a game like that with favoritism to be honest.
cheat or abuse or scam what can't  we expect from online gambling mate? it seems that this is a normal scenario nowadays and we must be ready for being accused or to accuse them about those.

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I personally don't see staying away from gambling as something that requires too much help efforts or advice as long as the individual involved make up their mind to gamble within the set rules and limits, this is very important because everything starts and ends with the gamblers not the casino or anyone else.
Casinos are out to make revenue/money and that there will act accordingly with the gamblers desires and request, if you control yourself away from gambling excessively it up for you, and if you over gamble also it up for you, so the responsibility to gamble within a set rules is what stands for you at the end and how you best stay off active gambling.
Gambling is a personal matter so it totally depends on how much one gambles or how much or less one gambles. the more a person gambles, the more he is attracted to gambling and the more he is harmed, so it is his personal responsibility to control himself and save himself from the deep addiction of gambling. And how much of someone's gambling is kept hidden or how much is made public is also a personal matter. But I think it's always better to use a pseudonym while gambling to keep your identity a secret

I agree when you say that the game is personal and that each person should take it as they see fit, if someone wants to keep it a secret, then that's fine with me, whoever wants to make it public then that's fine with me too, everything These types of things are what we must Consider so that things always go in the right direction. As a player and as a trader, I sometimes see that one gets involved in high-risk things and that the risk does not matter how much it is. Things are always done so that I can face it and come out in a good way, that is what I have learned, and above all to take care of our money.

Anyone who is looking for another way to play and be happy because they are free to do so , what should always be done is to find a way not to become Decapitated or fall into Addiction because that does become a major problem for the player and his family.

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It seems to me that the possibility of self-exclusion from gambling for the player himself is in any case a rather difficult, and sometimes even very difficult task. 
If a person decides to completely eliminate gambling from his life, then this is similar to the loss of something valuable in the life of such a person.  And everyone perceives this loss differently.  Some people cope with loss easily, while others have a very hard time.  But this loss, by the way, can always turn into a return to gambling, and this also still depends on the willpower of the player and on how strongly the pleasure of gambling has penetrated the thoughts and brain of the player.  In the broad sense of the word, difficulties with giving up gambling have too wide a range of human psychological reactions.  And here, as it is written in the fate of a particular person, if he is destined to become a gambling addict at the stage of the disease, then this is his fate, probably this is divine providence and he himself will not be able to cope with it.  But fortunately, there is also professional medical help for such people.

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March 26, 2024, 12:52:07 PM
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Surely it is so. The problem is with gambler and if he has some problems - he must make decision himself. Or, if he can`t  - his friends and family can help him, may be doctor. We don`t close distilleries because someone has  problems with alcohol. The casino just an instrument and only the gambler decides how to use it.
On the time that a gambler would really be coming into a point that you are already that spending up too much on gambling then this is where problems do start to begin and this is something
where things turns out to be messy then this is where you would be making realizations and not before things do happen. If you are really that serious on quitting then you could really actually
quit and if you are tending to have a break then you could actually do it and this is something which is really very that possible and would be basing up on someones self control.

Self exclusion isnt always that available for most gambling sites but you could actually ask or request on blocking or locking up your account but just like been said by
others is that you would really be still playing if you cant really be able to make have that kind of control towards your playing.
When i stopped smoking i just stopped buy cigarettes but i didn`t ask seller not to sell it to me. May be self exclusion can help someone to stop gambling, but i`m sure that he begin to play when it restriction would end. The gambler must decide himself, that he has to stop.


Surely it is so. The problem is with gambler and if he has some problems - he must make decision himself. Or, if he can`t  - his friends and family can help him, may be doctor. We don`t close distilleries because someone has  problems with alcohol. The casino just an instrument and only the gambler decides how to use it.
Yeah, casinos have absolutely nothing to do with people getting addicted to gambling, it is already stated that gamblers should gamble responsibly, if anyone in the cause of them being overly greedy to win more money, get addicted to gambling, it is absolutely out of place to blame the casino.

For no one blames cigarettes companies for producing more and more cigarettes not minding the thousand of deaths that are recorded every year around the world out of tuberculosis, or should we talk about those who drink too much alcohol, get drunk, hit the road in their car and die in an accident, alongside some other unlucky victims of the  accident, no body is blaming the brewery companies that produce those alcoholic products.

Why then should anyone be blaming casinos for addicted gamblers? Anyone can get addicted to anything they engage themselves in too much above the normal limit, it's no fault of the platform that provide such service.
Exactly. Everybody must be brave enough to be responsible for his own life at least.

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Instead of Atomic wallet, Trustwallet can be used. Trustwallet gives decentralized option while Atomic wallet has its own validator. Trustwallet has many validators and atomic wallet is part of them if they support the staked coin.

I prefer to use Keplr wallet which has been the best that I know. If the wallet support a coin that I want to stake, I prefer the wallet even than Trustwallet.

I can understand you, because gamblers would be discouraged to unstake their coins because the unstaking period can take up to a week or more.

I also used to use TrustWallet, but so far I'm on Kpler now, actually because it makes me more comfortable to use it than TrustWallet, honestly speaking.
It's still better to use decentralized ones where we have control over our assets.

This is what you should do: choose the one over whom you always have control over all the assets you have; don't take risks that you are not in control,
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March 27, 2024, 02:02:50 AM
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I also used to use TrustWallet, but so far I'm on Kpler now, actually because it makes me more comfortable to use it than TrustWallet, honestly speaking.
It's still better to use decentralized ones where we have control over our assets.

This is what you should do: choose the one over whom you always have control over all the assets you have; don't take risks that you are not in control,
so that the crypto assets are not in danger.
But diverting our assets to staking to avoid gambling doesn't seem to be 100% successful in making us take a break from gambling while the staking period is in progress. I've experienced this too using TrustWallet for staking... what sucks is that I still bet with the money I allocate for daily meals. Of course the budget has decreased, but it still makes me not stop gambling, even though it is a little less.

This staking method is actually quite effective if we have high discipline in our daily spending behavior. Because I'm sure, gambling will steal other budget allocations to just relieve boredom because weak discipline will still make it difficult to make changes like the ones discussed in this topic.
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March 27, 2024, 10:40:09 AM
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I personally don't see staying away from gambling as something that requires too much help efforts or advice as long as the individual involved make up their mind to gamble within the set rules and limits, this is very important because everything starts and ends with the gamblers not the casino or anyone else.
Casinos are out to make revenue/money and that there will act accordingly with the gamblers desires and request, if you control yourself away from gambling excessively it up for you, and if you over gamble also it up for you, so the responsibility to gamble within a set rules is what stands for you at the end and how you best stay off active gambling.
Surely it is so. The problem is with gambler and if he has some problems - he must make decision himself. Or, if he can`t  - his friends and family can help him, may be doctor. We don`t close distilleries because someone has  problems with alcohol. The casino just an instrument and only the gambler decides how to use it.
What a nice analogy. Of course, distilleries can't be closed for drinking issues, even as drinking has its benefits too, and just like the head can't be cut simply because of a headache, it is the solution that should be found for the person having issues in both cases. The context has been the issue of the gamblers in gambling and not gambling itself because no one forces anyone to gamble. If at all people gamble, no one forces them to continue to gamble and not know their limits and the time to stop. So we should blame it on ourselves and not casinos. I have heard many people talking about the ill side of gambling and how the government are turning a deaf ear to the negative effects. I wonder what they want the government to do in adult-related decisions. The government had done its part to ensure that the citizens/residents must be at least 18/21 years of age to gamble believing they would have been mature enough to make good decisions in this regard.

Even the most addicted to gambling I know are far older people than that age limit, which makes it even worse and shameful for them and not the government or the casinos. As an adult, I believe we should be smarter and wiser in decision-making and in handling situations and ourselves, but unfortunately, many are just living their lives like teenagers or even lower age. I don't know how the blame should ever be on the casinos that are neutral and not forcing anyone to play. It is simply our choice, and if we contract issues of emotion/addiction and the waste of money, it is we who should find a lasting solution to it. I, therefore, advise every gambler facing one challenge or another that it is a psychological thing, and when they notice it, they should try to fight it by themselves, but if their self-power fails, they should call for help ASAP.

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March 27, 2024, 12:28:29 PM
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When i stopped smoking i just stopped buy cigarettes but i didn`t ask seller not to sell it to me. May be self exclusion can help someone to stop gambling, but i`m sure that he begin to play when it restriction would end. The gambler must decide himself, that he has to stop.
That's the most important thing and the most crucial one but most addicted gamblers will find it hard to start stopping from themselves.
Self-exclusion system in casino may help but if there is no will from ourselves then it will be useless because we may start moving to other casinos.
If the main question is to do self exclude from fully anonymous casinos, there is no other effective ways except the first point (our own will).


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March 28, 2024, 01:03:38 PM
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Surely it is so. The problem is with gambler and if he has some problems - he must make decision himself. Or, if he can`t  - his friends and family can help him, may be doctor. We don`t close distilleries because someone has  problems with alcohol. The casino just an instrument and only the gambler decides how to use it.
What a nice analogy. Of course, distilleries can't be closed for drinking issues, even as drinking has its benefits too, and just like the head can't be cut simply because of a headache, it is the solution that should be found for the person having issues in both cases. The context has been the issue of the gamblers in gambling and not gambling itself because no one forces anyone to gamble. If at all people gamble, no one forces them to continue to gamble and not know their limits and the time to stop. So we should blame it on ourselves and not casinos. I have heard many people talking about the ill side of gambling and how the government are turning a deaf ear to the negative effects. I wonder what they want the government to do in adult-related decisions. The government had done its part to ensure that the citizens/residents must be at least 18/21 years of age to gamble believing they would have been mature enough to make good decisions in this regard.

Even the most addicted to gambling I know are far older people than that age limit, which makes it even worse and shameful for them and not the government or the casinos. As an adult, I believe we should be smarter and wiser in decision-making and in handling situations and ourselves, but unfortunately, many are just living their lives like teenagers or even lower age. I don't know how the blame should ever be on the casinos that are neutral and not forcing anyone to play. It is simply our choice, and if we contract issues of emotion/addiction and the waste of money, it is we who should find a lasting solution to it. I, therefore, advise every gambler facing one challenge or another that it is a psychological thing, and when they notice it, they should try to fight it by themselves, but if their self-power fails, they should call for help ASAP.
I think that all the government can do is the same with the other accepted addictions - smoking, alcohol. They can just limit or reject all types of promoting and, probably, increase taxes for casino. I don`t sure about taxes - with the smoking the smoker feel it instantly - the price of cigarettes grow up. But in the gambling the casino mostly decrease RTP. The gambler don`t increase the bet, he only lose more often.


When i stopped smoking i just stopped buy cigarettes but i didn`t ask seller not to sell it to me. May be self exclusion can help someone to stop gambling, but i`m sure that he begin to play when it restriction would end. The gambler must decide himself, that he has to stop.
That's the most important thing and the most crucial one but most addicted gamblers will find it hard to start stopping from themselves.
Self-exclusion system in casino may help but if there is no will from ourselves then it will be useless because we may start moving to other casinos.
If the main question is to do self exclude from fully anonymous casinos, there is no other effective ways except the first point (our own will).
He will gamble in the other casinos and return after self-exclusion will ends. It isn`t decision, the gambler must fix his thoughts firstly.

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March 28, 2024, 04:43:49 PM
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Surely it is so. The problem is with gambler and if he has some problems - he must make decision himself. Or, if he can`t  - his friends and family can help him, may be doctor. We don`t close distilleries because someone has  problems with alcohol. The casino just an instrument and only the gambler decides how to use it.
On the time that a gambler would really be coming into a point that you are already that spending up too much on gambling then this is where problems do start to begin and this is something
where things turns out to be messy then this is where you would be making realizations and not before things do happen. If you are really that serious on quitting then you could really actually
quit and if you are tending to have a break then you could actually do it and this is something which is really very that possible and would be basing up on someones self control.

Self exclusion isnt always that available for most gambling sites but you could actually ask or request on blocking or locking up your account but just like been said by
others is that you would really be still playing if you cant really be able to make have that kind of control towards your playing.
When i stopped smoking i just stopped buy cigarettes but i didn`t ask seller not to sell it to me. May be self exclusion can help someone to stop gambling, but i`m sure that he begin to play when it restriction would end. The gambler must decide himself, that he has to stop.
Totally matter about self control and this is something that would really be some crucial or something that you would really be needing to consider on the time that you would really be dealing up with gambling.
It all matters on how you would really be finding yourself to have that kind of discipline because even if how many sites would really be excluding you on playing but you are still not prepared or something not ready
on quitting or stopping gambling then  you would really be finding ways for you to play no matter what and this is something that would really be just that a common problem
specially into those people who are addicted with gambling. If you arent that much prepared about on the things about the risks of losing money or cant be able to accept it out
then you are really that putting up yourself on such big trouble.

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