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January 08, 2024, 09:59:43 PM
Last edit: January 08, 2024, 10:15:25 PM by Fatunad
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If you're a gambler, then control and manage how you're gambling before it get worse to the extreme stage, also, if you're privileged to see someone gambling in the wrong direction, take it a responsibility to call them into order, some things were better done or dealt with in the early stage before they got worsened, having desires for gambling is not getting yourself harmed by gambling because if ignorance or lack of self control while gambling, the gambling platforms will not control you, it's your own responsibility to do so for yourself.
It is very rare that people listen to others when it comes to this as they will feel judged, and they will think that you are overstepping their boundaries by doing something like this, so even if you were correct on your observations about their gambling habits, you can bet they will continue to gamble as usual, and even if at some point they realize they had a problem you can be sure they will not remember that you tried to help them before things got out of control.
When it comes to staking, it wont be that much effective considering that unstaking option is really that available so its pointless.If there would really be some lock ups then you can really make yourself that prohibit for you to play but as long you do know that you do still have other money source then you would really be just basically be trying out to play again and again as long your gambling urge and interest would be there
then stopping cant be possible.It would really be just that depending on how you do treat gambling whether it is really just that for the sake of fun and entertainment or you are already that making things
to be some source of income. Once you do get yourself that addicted then getting out of it would really be that so hard, this is why you should really be that careful in the first place on this case.

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January 09, 2024, 02:38:10 PM
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If you're a gambler, then control and manage how you're gambling before it get worse to the extreme stage, also, if you're privileged to see someone gambling in the wrong direction, take it a responsibility to call them into order, some things were better done or dealt with in the early stage before they got worsened, having desires for gambling is not getting yourself harmed by gambling because if ignorance or lack of self control while gambling, the gambling platforms will not control you, it's your own responsibility to do so for yourself.
It is very rare that people listen to others when it comes to this as they will feel judged, and they will think that you are overstepping their boundaries by doing something like this, so even if you were correct on your observations about their gambling habits, you can bet they will continue to gamble as usual, and even if at some point they realize they had a problem you can be sure they will not remember that you tried to help them before things got out of control.

It is very difficult to advise someone who is addicted to playing gambling, because many of their friends or family will ignore them so they don't continue playing gambling, even though they use various methods, that person still continues to do it, the only one The way to do this is to wait for the person to experience financial difficulties in order to give a deterrent effect, but there will be something crazy that he will do in the future, even though it will be a big problem for himself, it is better to let him get into a big problem than to waste his words trying to advise him.

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January 09, 2024, 03:48:49 PM
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If you're a gambler, then control and manage how you're gambling before it get worse to the extreme stage, also, if you're privileged to see someone gambling in the wrong direction, take it a responsibility to call them into order, some things were better done or dealt with in the early stage before they got worsened, having desires for gambling is not getting yourself harmed by gambling because if ignorance or lack of self control while gambling, the gambling platforms will not control you, it's your own responsibility to do so for yourself.
It is very rare that people listen to others when it comes to this as they will feel judged, and they will think that you are overstepping their boundaries by doing something like this, so even if you were correct on your observations about their gambling habits, you can bet they will continue to gamble as usual, and even if at some point they realize they had a problem you can be sure they will not remember that you tried to help them before things got out of control.

It is very difficult to advise someone who is addicted to playing gambling, because many of their friends or family will ignore them so they don't continue playing gambling, even though they use various methods, that person still continues to do it, the only one The way to do this is to wait for the person to experience financial difficulties in order to give a deterrent effect, but there will be something crazy that he will do in the future, even though it will be a big problem for himself, it is better to let him get into a big problem than to waste his words trying to advise him.
That's a really weird way to go about someone who is gambling and has addiction problem. No doubt that advice is like a total waste of time but I still prefer other method than allowing the person to  gamble away and get stuck because in the process like you said he might do some dangerous and unthinkable things just to achieve his addiction urge and you allowing him to do so is really not the best way to go about it.

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January 10, 2024, 07:41:37 AM
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If you're a gambler, then control and manage how you're gambling before it get worse to the extreme stage, also, if you're privileged to see someone gambling in the wrong direction, take it a responsibility to call them into order, some things were better done or dealt with in the early stage before they got worsened, having desires for gambling is not getting yourself harmed by gambling because if ignorance or lack of self control while gambling, the gambling platforms will not control you, it's your own responsibility to do so for yourself.
It is very rare that people listen to others when it comes to this as they will feel judged, and they will think that you are overstepping their boundaries by doing something like this, so even if you were correct on your observations about their gambling habits, you can bet they will continue to gamble as usual, and even if at some point they realize they had a problem you can be sure they will not remember that you tried to help them before things got out of control.

It is very difficult to advise someone who is addicted to playing gambling, because many of their friends or family will ignore them so they don't continue playing gambling, even though they use various methods, that person still continues to do it, the only one The way to do this is to wait for the person to experience financial difficulties in order to give a deterrent effect, but there will be something crazy that he will do in the future, even though it will be a big problem for himself, it is better to let him get into a big problem than to waste his words trying to advise him.
That's a really weird way to go about someone who is gambling and has addiction problem. No doubt that advice is like a total waste of time but I still prefer other method than allowing the person to  gamble away and get stuck because in the process like you said he might do some dangerous and unthinkable things just to achieve his addiction urge and you allowing him to do so is really not the best way to go about it.
In my opinion, simple advice like “Stop playing, you’ll soon go crazy with your games!”  completely useless.  The player is simply in a state of excitement and euphoria from the game and will completely ignore such comments. 
But, for example, turning off the electricity throughout the house while such a gambling player is playing on a PC, deliberately done by one of his family members, will cause anger and even temporary madness of such a player if he realizes that this was done intentionally.  This is also a bad option for helping to overcome gambling addiction in the initial stages.  So the family members are wondering what else can be done to help such a gambler overcome his addiction. 

Perhaps you know interesting original ways?
But then write them here in the topic.  Perhaps they will be useful to someone.

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January 10, 2024, 08:11:30 AM
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In my opinion, simple advice like “Stop playing, you’ll soon go crazy with your games!”  completely useless.  The player is simply in a state of excitement and euphoria from the game and will completely ignore such comments.  
But, for example, turning off the electricity throughout the house while such a gambling player is playing on a PC, deliberately done by one of his family members, will cause anger and even temporary madness of such a player if he realizes that this was done intentionally.  This is also a bad option for helping to overcome gambling addiction in the initial stages.  So the family members are wondering what else can be done to help such a gambler overcome his addiction.  
Family support means to support the addicted member by taking care of them and following what professionals say to how to take care of them. so they can recover from that addiction.
but if family members will try methods like you said, turning of the electricity. that can cause intense anger to the player because what if he was martingaling? he will think I lost half of the money because of electricity.
Perhaps you know interesting original ways?
But then write them here in the topic.  Perhaps they will be useful to someone.
I think this should be asked to professionals which is free on many online platforms and gamble aware forums.
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January 10, 2024, 10:04:05 AM
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If you're a gambler, then control and manage how you're gambling before it get worse to the extreme stage, also, if you're privileged to see someone gambling in the wrong direction, take it a responsibility to call them into order, some things were better done or dealt with in the early stage before they got worsened, having desires for gambling is not getting yourself harmed by gambling because if ignorance or lack of self control while gambling, the gambling platforms will not control you, it's your own responsibility to do so for yourself.
It is very rare that people listen to others when it comes to this as they will feel judged, and they will think that you are overstepping their boundaries by doing something like this, so even if you were correct on your observations about their gambling habits, you can bet they will continue to gamble as usual, and even if at some point they realize they had a problem you can be sure they will not remember that you tried to help them before things got out of control.
What you just explained is the power of addiction, the addicts never listen until it either ruins them or they just get delivered one way or another. Gambling is a very easy to infest activity, which calls for our careful engagement, and doing it sensibly and with a reasonable amount of money that we can afford to lose will go a long way in keeping us in check. You can imagine people who people started gambling with the mentality that they make huge money pretty fast from it especially when they read similar stories online even if it is fake. That mindset often keeps them in a bad psychology towards it and they might be forced to ruin money into it or get addicted thinking they can still get rich in it and also when they are persistent with it.

But some people would want to get back their lost money even if it is becoming unfeasible to be rich in it, but instead they will get to lose more. You see, gambling addicts come through different reasons and the reason matters to how the infestation level would be on individual gamblers. If the reason is so deeply rooted in it, there might be no willpower for the addict to say no anymore, neither would it work if you advise such a person unless they find external help from professionals or just got lucky enough to secure a better job that pays them well and/or take their time and attention away from gambling.

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January 10, 2024, 12:27:40 PM
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If you're a gambler, then control and manage how you're gambling before it get worse to the extreme stage, also, if you're privileged to see someone gambling in the wrong direction, take it a responsibility to call them into order, some things were better done or dealt with in the early stage before they got worsened, having desires for gambling is not getting yourself harmed by gambling because if ignorance or lack of self control while gambling, the gambling platforms will not control you, it's your own responsibility to do so for yourself.
It is very rare that people listen to others when it comes to this as they will feel judged, and they will think that you are overstepping their boundaries by doing something like this, so even if you were correct on your observations about their gambling habits, you can bet they will continue to gamble as usual, and even if at some point they realize they had a problem you can be sure they will not remember that you tried to help them before things got out of control.
Exactly , not because we are concern meaning we can just jump like that into other addicted gamblers because people will need respect of their boundaries , and if you really wanted to help them out then find your ways inside them slowly and not just a random person that shows being good but in His own life doing nothing but addiction .
remember that you cannot tell people not to gamble when you are also an addicted gambler.

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January 10, 2024, 10:16:54 PM
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If you're a gambler, then control and manage how you're gambling before it get worse to the extreme stage, also, if you're privileged to see someone gambling in the wrong direction, take it a responsibility to call them into order, some things were better done or dealt with in the early stage before they got worsened, having desires for gambling is not getting yourself harmed by gambling because if ignorance or lack of self control while gambling, the gambling platforms will not control you, it's your own responsibility to do so for yourself.
It is very rare that people listen to others when it comes to this as they will feel judged, and they will think that you are overstepping their boundaries by doing something like this, so even if you were correct on your observations about their gambling habits, you can bet they will continue to gamble as usual, and even if at some point they realize they had a problem you can be sure they will not remember that you tried to help them before things got out of control.
Exactly , not because we are concern meaning we can just jump like that into other addicted gamblers because people will need respect of their boundaries , and if you really wanted to help them out then find your ways inside them slowly and not just a random person that shows being good but in His own life doing nothing but addiction .
remember that you cannot tell people not to gamble when you are also an addicted gambler.
Actually we can make out some advises yet showing some concern isnt really that bad but just like you've said that it would really be just that not all would really be having that kind of addiction
 on which having dealing with gambling doesnt automatically means that someone is addicted to it. There are still those people who would really be that having good control towards themselves and would be able to control their finances when it comes to money and this is why it would be always best that you shouldnt really be giving advises if you dont know someone unless if he's a close friend or family
member then it would be normal on having that involvement but in speaking with other people then just let them be on the things that they do gonna do, its their money and its none of our fcking business on stopping them.  Grin

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January 10, 2024, 10:41:14 PM
Last edit: January 12, 2024, 12:17:43 AM by AmoreJaz
 #209

If you're a gambler, then control and manage how you're gambling before it get worse to the extreme stage, also, if you're privileged to see someone gambling in the wrong direction, take it a responsibility to call them into order, some things were better done or dealt with in the early stage before they got worsened, having desires for gambling is not getting yourself harmed by gambling because if ignorance or lack of self control while gambling, the gambling platforms will not control you, it's your own responsibility to do so for yourself.
It is very rare that people listen to others when it comes to this as they will feel judged, and they will think that you are overstepping their boundaries by doing something like this, so even if you were correct on your observations about their gambling habits, you can bet they will continue to gamble as usual, and even if at some point they realize they had a problem you can be sure they will not remember that you tried to help them before things got out of control.
Exactly , not because we are concern meaning we can just jump like that into other addicted gamblers because people will need respect of their boundaries , and if you really wanted to help them out then find your ways inside them slowly and not just a random person that shows being good but in His own life doing nothing but addiction .
remember that you cannot tell people not to gamble when you are also an addicted gambler.
Actually we can make out some advises yet showing some concern isnt really that bad but just like you've said that it would really be just that not all would really be having that kind of addiction
 on which having dealing with gambling doesnt automatically means that someone is addicted to it. There are still those people who would really be that having good control towards themselves and would be able to control their finances when it comes to money and this is why it would be always best that you shouldnt really be giving advises if you dont know someone unless if he's a close friend or family
member then it would be normal on having that involvement but in speaking with other people then just let them be on the things that they do gonna do, its their money and its none of our fcking business on stopping them.  Grin

indeed, mind our own business! but if they ask for help, why not assist them. we are just humans who always mistakes in our lives. and we have our lifetime to correct whatever we feel is wrong with our life.
but do remember, don't shove to others about your piece of advice. let them voluntarily ask help. because if you will force them to, the more they will avoid your presence.

self exclusions are really that useless or not really that effective at all.
Many people would disagree with that, this is simply not true.
Fairlay registration function is close for a long time unless they open it recently or provide other way to access their site just like what you said. Can you provide where can I access that instant link feature?

You're right, might be a good thing they've changed it but until recently they've literally done as described here, allowing anyone to register with an instant link, 0 details to be provided, could easily gamble 5 digits with no questions asked. Let's see how the new site would operate. Hopefully it would be more "responsible" than what it is but no one knows yet.

self-exclusion is useful to people who are determined to change their lifestyle. but this one won't hold if the user himself broke his promise to change. it is the user not the site who is at fault on this.

for a new site having that kind of acceptance, better be cautious as they are doing this just to attract more players. and once someone hit big, they will change their approach.

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indeed, mind our own business! but if they ask for help, why not assist them. we are just humans who always mistakes in our lives. and we have our lifetime to correct whatever we feel is wrong with our life.
but do remember, don't shove to others about your piece of advice. let them voluntarily ask help. because if you will force them to, the more they will avoid your presence.
When it comes to issues with addictions, it better for the individual involved to seek for help and doing that will show that he is already made up his mind to break out of that addictions, and for that it may be most appropriate to avoid interfering with the ways the tend to handles their gambling investment and wether or not they want to stop gambling.

And just as you have said, if you force them to seek for help, they may start avoiding you and by so doing it may lead them into more problems in the future, so it's better for you to always mind your business and not interfere in they business unles they ask for help from you at some point in time.
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If you're a gambler, then control and manage how you're gambling before it get worse to the extreme stage, also, if you're privileged to see someone gambling in the wrong direction, take it a responsibility to call them into order, some things were better done or dealt with in the early stage before they got worsened, having desires for gambling is not getting yourself harmed by gambling because if ignorance or lack of self control while gambling, the gambling platforms will not control you, it's your own responsibility to do so for yourself.
It is very rare that people listen to others when it comes to this as they will feel judged, and they will think that you are overstepping their boundaries by doing something like this, so even if you were correct on your observations about their gambling habits, you can bet they will continue to gamble as usual, and even if at some point they realize they had a problem you can be sure they will not remember that you tried to help them before things got out of control.
Exactly , not because we are concern meaning we can just jump like that into other addicted gamblers because people will need respect of their boundaries , and if you really wanted to help them out then find your ways inside them slowly and not just a random person that shows being good but in His own life doing nothing but addiction .
remember that you cannot tell people not to gamble when you are also an addicted gambler.

I know that each person is the owner of their actions, but it is up to me that if I see someone who can help, I think I would try, even with small words of attention so that I can listen to them , Entering with a very nice attitude to See if in some way If he Speaks, I have a lot of Experience with these things because I work in a house where they leave dogs , expenses, and when potential people go to house them because I end up convincing them, I would do something like that with a person who was in danger or who needed some words of encouragement .

You also have to be aware that when it comes to addictions, the dangers you can face, the Possible stress, everything that is related to things that hurt you , and what that can lead a person to try, all these things are the ones that we must see , for the rest there is no possible way that more things can be done to overcome the peroans that the hole in which they are getting into is very Difficult to get out of , it may be of some use to try.


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The majority of the sites offer "Fiat" based payments too, like credit cards or PayPal, so these people will bypass the Crypto restrictions and just switch to the Fiat options that are availlable or the sites that offers alternative deposit options.

The real solution to gambling addiction is to acknowledge that you have a problem and to seek proffesional help as a long-term solution.

I am not saying "staking" will not help, I am just saying gambling addicts are very creative, if they try to manage this on their own.

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If you're a gambler, then control and manage how you're gambling before it get worse to the extreme stage, also, if you're privileged to see someone gambling in the wrong direction, take it a responsibility to call them into order, some things were better done or dealt with in the early stage before they got worsened, having desires for gambling is not getting yourself harmed by gambling because if ignorance or lack of self control while gambling, the gambling platforms will not control you, it's your own responsibility to do so for yourself.
It is very rare that people listen to others when it comes to this as they will feel judged, and they will think that you are overstepping their boundaries by doing something like this, so even if you were correct on your observations about their gambling habits, you can bet they will continue to gamble as usual, and even if at some point they realize they had a problem you can be sure they will not remember that you tried to help them before things got out of control.
Exactly , not because we are concern meaning we can just jump like that into other addicted gamblers because people will need respect of their boundaries , and if you really wanted to help them out then find your ways inside them slowly and not just a random person that shows being good but in His own life doing nothing but addiction .
remember that you cannot tell people not to gamble when you are also an addicted gambler.
Actually we can make out some advises yet showing some concern isnt really that bad but just like you've said that it would really be just that not all would really be having that kind of addiction
 on which having dealing with gambling doesnt automatically means that someone is addicted to it. There are still those people who would really be that having good control towards themselves and would be able to control their finances when it comes to money and this is why it would be always best that you shouldnt really be giving advises if you dont know someone unless if he's a close friend or family
member then it would be normal on having that involvement but in speaking with other people then just let them be on the things that they do gonna do, its their money and its none of our fcking business on stopping them.  Grin

indeed, mind our own business! but if they ask for help, why not assist them. we are just humans who always mistakes in our lives. and we have our lifetime to correct whatever we feel is wrong with our life.
but do remember, don't shove to others about your piece of advice. let them voluntarily ask help. because if you will force them to, the more they will avoid your presence.
That is good enough and we should not be selfish in what we do and with the information we have, we should help each other and recommend rightly for them where applicable unless we do not know about it. Permit me to add to what you said that it must be voluntary alone, but to me, I think it mustn't be voluntary alone, some people might not know that they need the help but you who are smart and are still with your senses better than them could notice this and ship in your good advice. It is left to them to agree with it or not but you have done your humanitarian part which is what I am so after. Gambling is not so difficult but not easy at the same time, and the not-so-difficult part is attributed to how we have easy access to it and it can be well-learned and played with ease.

But not easy because it is a mind game, a spirited game that needs everything alert with the player in such a way that shouldn't be compromised when it comes to the psyche. This is even as the managerial aspect is not there already, so anyone who errs in any of these codes has a serious problem with gambling, which is why we can help anyone we discover suffering from one thing or the other regarding this. It goes a long way though, still, do you bit and leave the rest.

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In my opinion, simple advice like “Stop playing, you’ll soon go crazy with your games!”  completely useless.  The player is simply in a state of excitement and euphoria from the game and will completely ignore such comments.  
But, for example, turning off the electricity throughout the house while such a gambling player is playing on a PC, deliberately done by one of his family members, will cause anger and even temporary madness of such a player if he realizes that this was done intentionally.  This is also a bad option for helping to overcome gambling addiction in the initial stages.  So the family members are wondering what else can be done to help such a gambler overcome his addiction.  
Family support means to support the addicted member by taking care of them and following what professionals say to how to take care of them. so they can recover from that addiction.
but if family members will try methods like you said, turning of the electricity. that can cause intense anger to the player because what if he was martingaling? he will think I lost half of the money because of electricity.
Perhaps you know interesting original ways?
But then write them here in the topic.  Perhaps they will be useful to someone.
I think this should be asked to professionals which is free on many online platforms and gamble aware forums.
There is nothing to argue about here.  Indeed, the method of turning off the power supply in an apartment or private house is completely arrogant and stupid.  I agree with this.  But this is the first thing that came to my mind. 
In general, probably any psychologist will say that the basis for weaning a gambler from the painful stage of gambling addiction lies in different methods of switching his thoughts and attention to some other things or circumstances that can make him forget about his  gambling in casinos.  And completely different thoughts will start running in his head.  In particular, this could be some very stressful information.  In general, these are, of course, quite cruel methods, but I think that without such methods it is almost impossible to cure a gambler’s addiction to gambling. 
And no amount of persuasion from family and friends simply has any effect on the gambler because they cannot trigger powerful alternative thoughts in the gambler’s brain that can interrupt thoughts about playing in a casino and considering different gaming situations.

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That is good enough and we should not be selfish in what we do and with the information we have, we should help each other and recommend rightly for them where applicable unless we do not know about it. Permit me to add to what you said that it must be voluntary alone, but to me, I think it mustn't be voluntary alone, some people might not know that they need the help but you who are smart and are still with your senses better than them could notice this and ship in your good advice. It is left to them to agree with it or not but you have done your humanitarian part which is what I am so after. Gambling is not so difficult but not easy at the same time, and the not-so-difficult part is attributed to how we have easy access to it and it can be well-learned and played with ease.

But not easy because it is a mind game, a spirited game that needs everything alert with the player in such a way that shouldn't be compromised when it comes to the psyche. This is even as the managerial aspect is not there already, so anyone who errs in any of these codes has a serious problem with gambling, which is why we can help anyone we discover suffering from one thing or the other regarding this. It goes a long way though, still, do you bit and leave the rest.
The thing is, no information is a waste, there are some people that would find the information he passed very useful and there are some that would ignore because they have no business with what he's talking about. What I'm trying to say is that it's better to seek for help about certain things one is interested in but know nothing about, other than venturing into it without any knowledge, like you said, Gambling is not very difficult and not easy at same time, but if one put their might to it and try to seek help from experts, when I mean experts I'm referring to those that have had 60-80% profit from it and adhere to risk management concerning it, then you'll likely succeed as well.
 Yes gambling involves a lot of mind games, it needs one to be psychological alert cause if erred could really cause a lot of damage to one's mental health, but with the right mentorship and tutorials from expert then I think one would be good to go, cause they won't encounter too many losses that could lead them to mental issues or breakdown completely.
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January 11, 2024, 04:47:34 PM
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Solution is easy, learn self control and dont be problem child
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January 11, 2024, 05:02:16 PM
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If you're a gambler, then control and manage how you're gambling before it get worse to the extreme stage, also, if you're privileged to see someone gambling in the wrong direction, take it a responsibility to call them into order, some things were better done or dealt with in the early stage before they got worsened, having desires for gambling is not getting yourself harmed by gambling because if ignorance or lack of self control while gambling, the gambling platforms will not control you, it's your own responsibility to do so for yourself.
It is very rare that people listen to others when it comes to this as they will feel judged, and they will think that you are overstepping their boundaries by doing something like this, so even if you were correct on your observations about their gambling habits, you can bet they will continue to gamble as usual, and even if at some point they realize they had a problem you can be sure they will not remember that you tried to help them before things got out of control.

It really depends upon oneself if he or she wants to exclude himself from gambling or quit gambling in simple words. You can lock your money in some other things, do not have access to your money and other such tactics may help you to refrain from gambling for a short time but if you want to keep yourself limited to gambling, then you may need to be strong enough and your mind needs to be focused so that you do not over gamble.

The strength of self-willingness is something which can't be compared to you put restrictions on the access of resources to do gambling.
If we really want to be responsible gambler, our focus should be top notch and our will power will determine if we are able to control our emotions.

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January 11, 2024, 07:09:09 PM
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Solution is easy, learn self control and dont be problem child
Easy to say but try to do this stuff on the  time that you are really that having that impulsive gambling behavior or intents? Pretty sure you would really be able to fail.
Somewhat its true that when it comes to self control then this is something that crucial, each person does have their own levels when it comes to discipline and approach on  things on which
they would really be that failing on doing such thing because the thing that they do have in mind is that they should gonna play for them to be able to win.
Self exclusion? This is something that not everyone would be using. Why? once you do reach out into this kind of state on where you are aware about self exclusion
then this is the moment that you have already realize that the things you've been doing are wrong.

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January 11, 2024, 07:46:57 PM
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If you're a gambler, then control and manage how you're gambling before it get worse to the extreme stage, also, if you're privileged to see someone gambling in the wrong direction, take it a responsibility to call them into order, some things were better done or dealt with in the early stage before they got worsened, having desires for gambling is not getting yourself harmed by gambling because if ignorance or lack of self control while gambling, the gambling platforms will not control you, it's your own responsibility to do so for yourself.
It is very rare that people listen to others when it comes to this as they will feel judged, and they will think that you are overstepping their boundaries by doing something like this, so even if you were correct on your observations about their gambling habits, you can bet they will continue to gamble as usual, and even if at some point they realize they had a problem you can be sure they will not remember that you tried to help them before things got out of control.

It is very difficult to advise someone who is addicted to playing gambling, because many of their friends or family will ignore them so they don't continue playing gambling, even though they use various methods, that person still continues to do it, the only one The way to do this is to wait for the person to experience financial difficulties in order to give a deterrent effect, but there will be something crazy that he will do in the future, even though it will be a big problem for himself, it is better to let him get into a big problem than to waste his words trying to advise him.
That's a really weird way to go about someone who is gambling and has addiction problem. No doubt that advice is like a total waste of time but I still prefer other method than allowing the person to  gamble away and get stuck because in the process like you said he might do some dangerous and unthinkable things just to achieve his addiction urge and you allowing him to do so is really not the best way to go about it.
In my opinion, simple advice like “Stop playing, you’ll soon go crazy with your games!”  completely useless.  The player is simply in a state of excitement and euphoria from the game and will completely ignore such comments. 
But, for example, turning off the electricity throughout the house while such a gambling player is playing on a PC, deliberately done by one of his family members, will cause anger and even temporary madness of such a player if he realizes that this was done intentionally.  This is also a bad option for helping to overcome gambling addiction in the initial stages.  So the family members are wondering what else can be done to help such a gambler overcome his addiction. 

Perhaps you know interesting original ways?
But then write them here in the topic.  Perhaps they will be useful to someone.

You're all right in your various opinions a.d to be honest here, saying a word ordinarily could help do nothing to avoid a gambler from gambling not to even talk about someone who is addicted to it, but as you've already mentioned,we can try out best in making sure that any gambling enabling environment is neglected or do without, this may curb the gambler at least when he can't find a means to gamble, another one is to avoid having fund that could be deposited into his casino wallet to be used for gambling, all these could be possible ways we can manage and deal with people like that.



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January 11, 2024, 07:57:04 PM
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If you're a gambler, then control and manage how you're gambling before it get worse to the extreme stage, also, if you're privileged to see someone gambling in the wrong direction, take it a responsibility to call them into order, some things were better done or dealt with in the early stage before they got worsened, having desires for gambling is not getting yourself harmed by gambling because if ignorance or lack of self control while gambling, the gambling platforms will not control you, it's your own responsibility to do so for yourself.
It is very rare that people listen to others when it comes to this as they will feel judged, and they will think that you are overstepping their boundaries by doing something like this, so even if you were correct on your observations about their gambling habits, you can bet they will continue to gamble as usual, and even if at some point they realize they had a problem you can be sure they will not remember that you tried to help them before things got out of control.

It is very difficult to advise someone who is addicted to playing gambling, because many of their friends or family will ignore them so they don't continue playing gambling, even though they use various methods, that person still continues to do it, the only one The way to do this is to wait for the person to experience financial difficulties in order to give a deterrent effect, but there will be something crazy that he will do in the future, even though it will be a big problem for himself, it is better to let him get into a big problem than to waste his words trying to advise him.
That's a really weird way to go about someone who is gambling and has addiction problem. No doubt that advice is like a total waste of time but I still prefer other method than allowing the person to  gamble away and get stuck because in the process like you said he might do some dangerous and unthinkable things just to achieve his addiction urge and you allowing him to do so is really not the best way to go about it.
In my opinion, simple advice like “Stop playing, you’ll soon go crazy with your games!”  completely useless.  The player is simply in a state of excitement and euphoria from the game and will completely ignore such comments. 
But, for example, turning off the electricity throughout the house while such a gambling player is playing on a PC, deliberately done by one of his family members, will cause anger and even temporary madness of such a player if he realizes that this was done intentionally.  This is also a bad option for helping to overcome gambling addiction in the initial stages.  So the family members are wondering what else can be done to help such a gambler overcome his addiction. 

Perhaps you know interesting original ways?
But then write them here in the topic.  Perhaps they will be useful to someone.

You're all right in your various opinions a.d to be honest here, saying a word ordinarily could help do nothing to avoid a gambler from gambling not to even talk about someone who is addicted to it, but as you've already mentioned,we can try out best in making sure that any gambling enabling environment is neglected or do without, this may curb the gambler at least when he can't find a means to gamble, another one is to avoid having fund that could be deposited into his casino wallet to be used for gambling, all these could be possible ways we can manage and deal with people like that.
I have a friend who likes to think that avoiding your problem isn't actually a way to go about but I always tell him that in a case of gambling  addiction avoiding everything that might trigger your urge should be avoided and it's almost the same like mental disabled(drug addict)person who they tend to isolate because of that urge that seldom hit their mind and these lack the capability to control it and that's the same thing as gambling addict so avoiding and staying away from things that might trigger your urge is probably the best way to go about it.

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