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July 07, 2024, 03:57:07 PM
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I never imagined that the Brazil team would perform so poorly, because they had so many opportunities but failed to capitalize on them. Tribaker was where they failed too, my question is why did Brazil team fail after so many opportunities. In the past, the Brazilian team was the most aggressive and strong, but why did they perform so poorly in this Copa America?
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July 07, 2024, 04:42:27 PM
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To say the truth, both teams, Brazil and Uruguay aren't top tier ones. The match yesterday was terrible! I didn't see any skills, professionalism and performance, rather there was only aggressivity from both sides, but especially from Uruguay's players. The match didn't flowed in any moment, as each time a player touched the ball, a foul was commited by the rival team.

The referee should have given many more yellow cards. Maybe that would inhibit the violent behavior of the players in the field.

An Uruguayan player blatantly orientated the ball with his right hand, another almost broke the ankle of a Brazilian player and was expelled, and a third one bumped into Endrick for nothing while the game was stopped. A very shady squad which didn't deserve to win in my opinon. But even with the advantage for Brazil, with +1 player in field after the Uruguay lost Nandéz, they didn't manage to do any further progress.

In the end, the Brazilian player who missed the penalty did the hardest thing: to hit the goalpost. Tongue

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July 07, 2024, 04:49:45 PM
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Argentina vs Canada

Uruguay vs Colombia

Canada will play against Argentina in the first semi-final match. Argentina defeated Canada in the group stage match. Canada defeated Venezuela in the quarter-finals to qualify for the semi-finals. Venezuela was strong, winning 3 out of 3 group stage matches. Canada had better luck, they won in a penalty shootout. However, Argentina is a much stronger team than Canada. Between Argentina and Canada, Argentina will definitely be ahead, hopefully Argentina will win. The match between Uruguay and Colombia will be very competitive.

Since the start of the Copa America, I've missed a lot of things and that's why I rarely join in to discuss this thread.  but I am interested in discussing the semi-final match, especially for Argentina. Talking about Argentina vs Canada, we can confirm that Argentina's chances are much higher than the opposing team. Moreover, Canada was defeated in the group stage match with a score of 2-0. Likewise, if we refer to the temporary odds for these two teams, Argentina has low odds. while Canada's odds are quite high. Theoretically, Argentina should be able to qualify for the next round.

However, if we want to see a fairly competitive match, the other semi-final match is Uruguay vs Colombia.
Honestly, I haven't tried to research it and analyze it further. However, if you refer to the statistics of these two teams, both teams played good matches throughout their matches in the Copa America. especially when referring to the odds available, for the time being there are no significant differences provided by the betting exchange. Uniquely, in the last two meetings between these two teams, the match ended in a draw. Well, it is possible that in the semi-final match the fight will continue until a penalty shootout. because for now, I doubt if this match will produce many goals scored by these two teams. However, we will have a more detailed picture to predict and involve betting before this semi-final match is held soon.


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July 07, 2024, 05:04:03 PM
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even with 10 players Uruguay and Brazil were not able to make the difference that made them qualify for the semi-finals and they even had to swallow the bitter pill with their failure to advance to the next round after Militao and Douglas Luiz failed in the penalty shootout.

Brazil excelled in numbers but not in their playmaking as in the end it was not known whether it was Uruguay's solid defense or Brazil's utter weakness in their attack that made them fail in this phase.

I honestly expected something more in this match because both teams are clearly big teams in Copa America, it's just that the myriad of talented players that Brazil currently has is not accompanied by the performance of the coach who seems mediocre even below the standard for the size of a large national team.
With this result we will see a pretty interesting semi-final where Argentina meets Canada and Uruguay who will face Colombia.
This will be interesting especially considering Colombia's current form I think this will be a decent semi-final.
With the performance like these things are never been ideal for the Brazil because they are already going from bad to worse, and they are having some strong strategy and technique for having improved results which are brought them back into top competition we have red card for the Uruguay player in 74th minute which give good advantage to Brazil for having their path to win, but their attack completely fails to take advantage and having goal without any doubt this is going to be huge concern for them to have changes and try to work for better results before it's gone too late.

Now we have four teams for the semifinals with Argentina are going to face Canada and Columbia which thrash Paraguay going to face Uruguay with this match is going to be had some good stuff for the fans because both are level in quality and performance.

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July 07, 2024, 05:09:44 PM
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In today's match, the Brazil team is doing the worst performance, so that the player of the Uruguay team, Nahitan Nandez, got a red card and left the field after 74 minutes. This was Brazil's biggest opportunity as the Uruguayan defense lacked defenders. But Brazil team is very weak in attacking department as today's match could have won if Vinicius Junior was present. 
Because of the shortage of defenders, this opportunity could have been exploited by the Brazilian team, but due to the current shortage of players, Brazil lost this match by a margin. Although the ball was in play, Tribeca also wasted the opportunity, so the Brazilian team was in no way eligible to play this season.
Seeing some netizen opinions on social media that the current Brazil squad is the worst generation in the last 10 years because they have not been able to make champions, although many great players in it are still difficult for Brazil to win easily even always overwhelmed.

The low rating of the Brazilian players indicates that the players played poorly even though there were several opportunities that existed.
After Nandez's red card, Brazil did have the opportunity to press but with the time available it was not able to which had to end in a penalty shootout, maybe if there was extra time the scenario would be different and Brazil could have won only after the game ended directly on penalties and there lost luck.

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July 07, 2024, 05:33:20 PM
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No doubt Argentina is the favorite to win this quarterfinal and if somehow Ecuador manages to win that it will be a big upset. Also Argentina will want to win this Copa America 2024 as they already hold the Fifa World Cup title with them that they won in Qatar in 2022.

Doing a bit of analysis between the two teams, Argentina finished first in Group A and they did not lose any match so far. However, Ecuador finished 2nd in Group B. They won only one match, had a draw in another and faced a loss in one match too and yet they are here in the Quarterfinals with Argentina. I would call them a bit lucky here as Mexico also had the 4 points but they failed to qualify by a very close margin only.
Well, to be honest, Ecuador almost beat Argentina, for me Ecuador really got through because they were very lucky, Mexico was not, Mexico did not show anything and it was clear that they talk a lot and do nothing, that happens sometimes, I hope it is a great lesson for that team and for those who like to underestimate others, for me the game between Canada and Venezuela was an absolute mess, for me it is like when someone goes to play on the street, I saw it that way, for me Canada is the revelation team, and it can outdo Argentina, although for me Argentina had an easy path to reach the final, a question of luck or not , they had it easy.


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July 07, 2024, 06:23:39 PM
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When Ronaldinho said he won't be supporting Brazil his home country in this Copa America, because the coach has assembled a weak squad that's not capable of making it to the final not to talk of winning the Copa America. Many people bashed him, including pundits. After lots of talks about it he changed his mind and said he will support Brazil, but deep down he knew what he was saying. Now Brazil is out of the competition. For me Brazil is one of the worst managed football teams when it comes to international football. They have the talents to win any competition but yet nothing to show for it. It's such a shame that Brazil couldn't even advance to the semi finals.

The new generation of Brazilian players do not have the culture of Brazil in them, they do not play with all their mind because Europeans has used money to spoil football. Ronaldinho did not lie for what he said even though he later withdraw his statement but he said the truth. Brazil just has one major recent trophy which was in 2019 and they haven't won many thing since then. With the level of squad that Brazil has, they are supposed to have won more major tournament trophies than they have. What Brazil has right now is history and nothing present. But let us not also forget to praise Uruguay for playing a very good football. Brazil got knockout on penalties and not main time play therefore we can not just say they got outplayed because penalties can make any team to win regardless of how they played.

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July 07, 2024, 06:34:31 PM
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The Brazil vs Uruguay Copa America quarter final match is taking place with a lot of attacks between the two teams. Both teams are currently attacking in a frenzy, with no goals scored so far. If we see most of the games turning into draws in every match, then I think today's match is likely to be a draw between Brazil vs Uruguay. Anyway, if the Brazilian team loses in today's match, then they will be eliminated from the quarter-finals and will not be able to reach the semi-finals. The team that successfully recognizes and plays their hard work and hard will be successful in making it to the semi-finals. Although comparatively Brazil team is not playing very well in current season so their performance is not so good. If Brazil win today's match against Uruguay, they will next face Colombia in the semi-finals.
Uruguay showed more mental tenacity when it counted. Brazilian talent is undeniable. You know Militao can do amazing things when you see them. However, sometimes its about who wants it more than talent. Uruguay wanted more. They played with emotion, not just the ball. You need that in penalty shootouts. Great performance, de Arrascaeta!

Now they face Colombia. That'll be another war. Colombia has a formidable team, as shown. Uruguay has that winning mindset. Not shy in the spotlight. Under pressure, they excel. That may make the difference.

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July 07, 2024, 07:03:04 PM
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When Ronaldinho said he won't be supporting Brazil his home country in this Copa America, because the coach has assembled a weak squad that's not capable of making it to the final not to talk of winning the Copa America. Many people bashed him, including pundits. After lots of talks about it he changed his mind and said he will support Brazil, but deep down he knew what he was saying. Now Brazil is out of the competition. For me Brazil is one of the worst managed football teams when it comes to international football. They have the talents to win any competition but yet nothing to show for it. It's such a shame that Brazil couldn't even advance to the semi finals.

The new generation of Brazilian players do not have the culture of Brazil in them, they do not play with all their mind because Europeans has used money to spoil football. Ronaldinho did not lie for what he said even though he later withdraw his statement but he said the truth. Brazil just has one major recent trophy which was in 2019 and they haven't won many thing since then. With the level of squad that Brazil has, they are supposed to have won more major tournament trophies than they have. What Brazil has right now is history and nothing present. But let us not also forget to praise Uruguay for playing a very good football. Brazil got knockout on penalties and not main time play therefore we can not just say they got outplayed because penalties can make any team to win regardless of how they played.

I agree with your point because the current generation of players in Brazil do not work hard for the team. Of course Ronaldinho was a legend, he must have told the truth because the current situation of the Brazilian team is not very good. Despite forming a strong squad, they also lost to normal teams and their current performance is very disappointing. Brazil's performance in Copa América has been very poor for several seasons, and this season they also lost badly against Uruguay.  They are very raw in penalties where they can't even take penalty shots properly which is why they are out of this Copa América. If the Brazilian team continues to play like this, then all the other teams will have the possibility to change their history at some point.

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July 07, 2024, 07:07:52 PM
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I never imagined that the Brazil team would perform so poorly, because they had so many opportunities but failed to capitalize on them. Tribaker was where they failed too, my question is why did Brazil team fail after so many opportunities. In the past, the Brazilian team was the most aggressive and strong, but why did they perform so poorly in this Copa America?

Already the Brazil legend Ronaldinho already said it that the supposed Brazil squad is the weakest of them all and that's why he said they are performance will be poor and indeed his predictions were right because the Brazil team that we used to know will never have performed so poorly and even lost at this early stage although it was a penalty shoot out which is purely based on luck.

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July 07, 2024, 07:21:01 PM
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I never imagined that the Brazil team would perform so poorly, because they had so many opportunities but failed to capitalize on them. Tribaker was where they failed too, my question is why did Brazil team fail after so many opportunities. In the past, the Brazilian team was the most aggressive and strong, but why did they perform so poorly in this Copa America?
Already the Brazil legend Ronaldinho already said it that the supposed Brazil squad is the weakest of them all and that's why he said they are performance will be poor and indeed his predictions were right because the Brazil team that we used to know will never have performed so poorly and even lost at this early stage although it was a penalty shoot out which is purely based on luck.

I would say Brazil only lost because of their bad match. Brazil's match tactics and formation are all problematic. I don't know why Brazil chose Dorival Junior as their coach. Perhaps he himself is not aware of what Dorival's work is. I blame Dorival for this bad situation in Brazil.

Dorival may not have seen past performances of Vini and Rodrygo. We saw how Ancelotti used Vini and Rodrygo. Although these two players performed well in Real Madrid, Vini and Rodrygo could not play well in Brazil due to bad formation and bad tactics.

I never expected to see Endrick in the starting XI as a replacement for Vini. Endrick is a talented player. However, Endrick is not experienced enough to be in Brazil's starting XI in such a high voltage match. Gabriel Martinelli should have been used instead of Endrick.

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July 07, 2024, 07:39:05 PM
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Now they face Colombia. That'll be another war. Colombia has a formidable team, as shown. Uruguay has that winning mindset. Not shy in the spotlight. Under pressure, they excel. That may make the difference.

There is no doubt that Colombia is a very strong team. Colombia players performed well against Brazil. The bonding between the players in this team is also strong.

On the other hand, the Uruguay team is in excellent form this season. Many consider the Uruguayan team to be the most favorite team in this year's Copa America. Uruguay's match strategy and style of play are excellent. The players are also very confident.

Each of the past matches between Uruguay vs Colombia has been very competitive. The interesting fact is that the last 3 matches between these two teams were drawn. I think the next match will also end with a penalty shootout.

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July 07, 2024, 07:45:57 PM
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No doubt, Uruguay played a better game than Brazil but they could not score in the normal time so the game has to be decided via penalties. Brazil did had more of the ball possession (58%) but they played a defensive game. You can see the body language of the both teams and Uruguay should be a clear winner and they are now going to the Semi finals of the Copa America.

Uruguay won the match in penalties and all credit goes to their Goal keeper Sergio Rochet. It was a very tense match and and so is the every knock out match that ends on penalties.  Wink

The fact that Brazil could stumble was clear from the very beginning (just like Argentina and the teams that play at the Euro, there were too many victories for favorites in shootouts), but the fact that this still happened ruined interest in the tournament. It’s sad, but the result is already 99% known: in the final we will see Argentina win over Uruguay.
Although bookmakers are no longer sure of anything and now give the following quotes:

Argentina - 1.81

Uruguay - 3.80

Colombia - 4.40

Canada - 27.00

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July 07, 2024, 07:53:19 PM
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With the performance like these things are never been ideal for the Brazil because they are already going from bad to worse, and they are having some strong strategy and technique for having improved results which are brought them back into top competition we have red card for the Uruguay player in 74th minute which give good advantage to Brazil for having their path to win, but their attack completely fails to take advantage and having goal without any doubt this is going to be huge concern for them to have changes and try to work for better results before it's gone too late.

Now we have four teams for the semifinals with Argentina are going to face Canada and Columbia which thrash Paraguay going to face Uruguay with this match is going to be had some good stuff for the fans because both are level in quality and performance.
Brazil's failure in the match against Uruguay was surprising considering that Brazil was one of the strong candidates to win the title. Vinicius was absent from the game which made their attack a little different, but I don't understand why Dorival Júnior didn't start Gabriel Martinelli instead of Endrick. This is the beginning of why Brazil was not very effective in attacking and taking advantage of its goal chance, but Uruguay is a heavy team and also strong in defense.

The tension of the match is very tight and I think some players will get injured due to more physical contact, this is also the reason why there are red cards in the match. Brazil lost on penalties when they no longer had good players to kick because of the rotation they had done, as a result they had to pay a heavy price by going home early.

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July 07, 2024, 08:09:50 PM
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I never imagined that the Brazil team would perform so poorly, because they had so many opportunities but failed to capitalize on them. Tribaker was where they failed too, my question is why did Brazil team fail after so many opportunities. In the past, the Brazilian team was the most aggressive and strong, but why did they perform so poorly in this Copa America?
A big disappointment from the Brazilian team this year in Copa America as no one expected to see such poor performance from them. They started the competition poorly and was unable to win their quarter final match against Uruguay yesterday with the good players that they have. The match was very boring and was roo aggressive to the point that I slept off as I was watching the second half because it did not expect it to be a match of an eye for an eye.

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July 07, 2024, 08:14:52 PM
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I never imagined that the Brazil team would perform so poorly, because they had so many opportunities but failed to capitalize on them. Tribaker was where they failed too, my question is why did Brazil team fail after so many opportunities. In the past, the Brazilian team was the most aggressive and strong, but why did they perform so poorly in this Copa America?
A big disappointment from the Brazilian team this year in Copa America as no one expected to see such poor performance from them. They started the competition poorly and was unable to win their quarter final match against Uruguay yesterday with the good players that they have. The match was very boring and was roo aggressive to the point that I slept off as I was watching the second half because it did not expect it to be a match of an eye for an eye.

They have a weak generation that doesn't play football for their nation and they play football for themselves and no wonder they lost. There are too many ego's in that team to actually carry Brazil towards an international title or even Copa America and if something big won't change for them , I'm afraid they will have the same result in World Cup 2026 too.

On the other side , we most likely have the most talented team of Uruguay right now and I do think they will emerge victorious and lift Copa America.

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I never imagined that the Brazil team would perform so poorly, because they had so many opportunities but failed to capitalize on them. Tribaker was where they failed too, my question is why did Brazil team fail after so many opportunities. In the past, the Brazilian team was the most aggressive and strong, but why did they perform so poorly in this Copa America?
Brazil out of the picture and this gives Argentina 70% odds to win the Copa America title because they've been consistent in stellar performance and giving up for defeat is never a possible or welcomeable outcome. While their preeminent rival, Brazil recorded defeat, Brazil got eliminated from Copa America in the penalty shootout against Uruguay. It was one of the shocking moment for Brazil because they out in everything in the tournament but at the end of the day, there's a whole lot going on.

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July 07, 2024, 08:42:56 PM
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I never imagined that the Brazil team would perform so poorly, because they had so many opportunities but failed to capitalize on them. Tribaker was where they failed too, my question is why did Brazil team fail after so many opportunities. In the past, the Brazilian team was the most aggressive and strong, but why did they perform so poorly in this Copa America?
Brazil out of the picture and this gives Argentina 70% odds to win the Copa America title because they've been consistent in stellar performance and giving up for defeat is never a possible or welcomeable outcome. While their preeminent rival, Brazil recorded defeat, Brazil got eliminated from Copa America in the penalty shootout against Uruguay. It was one of the shocking moment for Brazil because they out in everything in the tournament but at the end of the day, there's a whole lot going on.

Brazil has come too far, this team is very, very bad, I can say without a shadow of a doubt that it is the worst Brazilian team of all time, it has many mediocre players and others that are overrated, they are common players from small teams that don't have conditions to play in competitive teams. There's nothing that can be done, this generation of players is very bad, maybe in a few decades another good team will emerge, but this generation: no chance.

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July 07, 2024, 08:49:33 PM
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I never imagined that the Brazil team would perform so poorly, because they had so many opportunities but failed to capitalize on them. Tribaker was where they failed too, my question is why did Brazil team fail after so many opportunities. In the past, the Brazilian team was the most aggressive and strong, but why did they perform so poorly in this Copa America?

In that last game, against Uruguay, I don't think they had a bad performance, they played well, but Urugay had a very strong defense. And when it went to penalties, unfortunately I was no longer rooting for Brazil, because historically I know that they are bad at penalties and I don't even remember when was the last time they beat another team in a penalty shootout.

However, Brazil could have avoided this clash against Uruguay if they had beaten Colombia in the previous match, and then yes, I agree with you... they played very badly, missed a lot of passes and could have beaten Colombia if they had only had better control of the game.

Anyway, I think Brazil still needs to improve a lot, I hope coach Dorival Jr. prepares the Brazilian team better for the World Cup.

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After carefully reading what Marcelo Bielsa said and contrasting it with the perspective today about how football games in tournament's, leagues  in the world has been viewed  and given priority akin to the team's and players over others, one will be persuaded to agree with Bielsa about the future of football among other sports.

Do you agree with his statement as a football fan or you have a different thought about this?


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