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December 15, 2023, 03:39:55 PM
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Suppose in a gambling game that if someone wins the first time it creates a trap for gamblers who are confident of winning the next time. Gamblers should keep in mind that gambling takes luck and it is not always easy to win in gaming. It is better not to win but the addiction to winning is bad. Not all gambling strategies will work in their favor. That's why it will be easier to avoid the trap if you stop excessive gambling.
When we talk about gambling games, there are no working *STRATEGIES* that can make someone win or save them from excessive losses apart from the strategy of stopping when the time is right. Gambling games and strategies are two contradicting things, you can't expect to get an upper hand in a gambling game by using a certain strategy when you already know that the outcome will be based on your luck and your applied strategy cannot change that.

So, strategies are a recipe for disaster, those who apply strategies like the martingale or anything to recover the losses or win more will end up losing everything eventually because the house will always have an edge over the gambler and there is no way one can win over the house in a gambling game.

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December 15, 2023, 03:42:39 PM
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I believe that we call this as the "cycle of gambling" where a gambler is stuck on this endless loop of winning/losing.

When a gambler wins, their initial reaction is to gamble again and to try if their luck would continue. Unfortunately when they lose a game, also, their initial reaction is to recover such loss by gambling again their winnings. This creates an endless cycle of win/lose depending on the outcome if the gambler fails to control the urge to play.

In order to at least pacify this problem, the recommended solution here is to allocate a certain budget whenever a person gambles. For example, if you plan on gambling today, limit your time by bringing a specific amount of budget to avoid any kind of over-expenditure that can surely prevent you from experiencing a losing streak.

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December 15, 2023, 04:00:41 PM
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I believe that we call this as the "cycle of gambling" where a gambler is stuck on this endless loop of winning/losing.

When a gambler wins, their initial reaction is to gamble again and to try if their luck would continue. Unfortunately when they lose a game, also, their initial reaction is to recover such loss by gambling again their winnings. This creates an endless cycle of win/lose depending on the outcome if the gambler fails to control the urge to play.

In order to at least pacify this problem, the recommended solution here is to allocate a certain budget whenever a person gambles. For example, if you plan on gambling today, limit your time by bringing a specific amount of budget to avoid any kind of over-expenditure that can surely prevent you from experiencing a losing streak.

Yes, limiting the budget and time of gambling is really necessary and it is very important to minimize all unwanted things such as maybe preventing us from running out of money too much just because of curiosity and making re-deposits, but on the other hand unfortunately not all gamblers can do that and maybe it is one of the things that is very difficult to do or apply by gamblers, the fact is that even though they have implemented such planning for a safer approach in fact it cannot be denied that there will always be times when they break it.

Of course, one of the reasons why they assume to put money back even after winning is because of the explosion of endorphins that fill all parts of the brain which indirectly encourages them to try again to be able to get the same sensation with a larger amount of winnings, will it happen? No, as you said that most gamblers will end up tragically if they put excessive actions is a fact and is common. Likewise with losing, it's simply like this "winning is addictive and losing is curious" that makes them greedy and unable to accept the risks that occur.

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December 15, 2023, 04:33:35 PM
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Well, I think in every experience of a person whenever they win something or even receive a prize, they would eventually retry it as they would expect it to happen twice. What's more when it comes to gambling especially when it involves money, let's be honest people are greedy and once they have tasted the win, they desire more. Still, we all know what are the possible outcomes if you continue gambling which favors the casino itself, since it's a 50/50 situation which is win and lose, there is also a chance that the person would keep continuing gambling and some would make a profit and go home with extra money. The only solution for you to stop this is to know your limit and have a target value for you to stop gambling.

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December 15, 2023, 04:58:05 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

This is probably one of the most important tips for those who are interested in gambling. What I mean is to always remember that gambling is a way to make money and that you should use money that you can afford to lose. Because of this, many problems have arisen and will continue to arise for people. They use money they can't afford to lose to make money.
I think that in general it doesn’t matter if a person wins money for the first time or loses it, if he can’t control himself then it’s better not to play at all

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December 15, 2023, 05:07:30 PM
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Often the casino gives a win the first time, so that a person believes in his strength and continue to play further, not too worried about the size of bets and subsequent losses. It is best to take the winnings and stop playing for a while to listen to your inner voice and realize whether it is worth continuing. There is no need to hurry
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December 15, 2023, 05:12:20 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

This is probably one of the most important tips for those who are interested in gambling. What I mean is to always remember that gambling is a way to make money and that you should use money that you can afford to lose. Because of this, many problems have arisen and will continue to arise for people. They use money they can't afford to lose to make money.
I think that in general it doesn’t matter if a person wins money for the first time or loses it, if he can’t control himself then it’s better not to play at all
Really very very basic but it turns out that tons of people do really mess up their lives because they cant really just follow this simple rules or simple ideas on how gambling should be treated up.
There are ones who could be able to take such control, there are ones who would really be that having no care at all and this is why they would really be falling out into a condition on which they would really be having that kind of impression that gambling could make them rich until the time comes that they would mess up and this is where regrets and realizations would happen.
Lets try our very best on not to end up with this kind of miserable situation because if you do really have this kind of approach and beliefs in mind then it would really be just making you desperate.

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December 15, 2023, 05:20:07 PM
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So, strategies are a recipe for disaster, those who apply strategies like the martingale or anything to recover the losses or win more will end up losing everything eventually because the house will always have an edge over the gambler and there is no way one can win over the house in a gambling game.
It depends on the games because if you talking about strategy in line with football games you will have a high tendency to win your bet easily if you know the analysis of the clubs and what their performance has been in the last couple of games, this is what makes the difference at most times, but yes based on in house games, there may not be workable strategy unless for some few skills-based games and skills-luck based games in few games also.
But with football,  you have the upper hand to speculate and analyze the market at whatever time, many time we select our winning teams based on their performance and statistic, like in the various leagues, we have all the player's information and also the clubs' positions so this information helps us to make better-informed decisions when selecting our games.

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December 15, 2023, 06:06:51 PM
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If you gamble first and win then you will save your mental energy and then you will gamble again and thus you will eventually become a daily gambler. We know it's not dangerous at first but when you go to the hopper again and again then it becomes reality. My younger brother is betting online and i searched his ID where most of the winning stories were but i fell behind him. On the other hand winning or losing the first time is not what makes them addictive but when you win fast the first time you make it addictiv.

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December 15, 2023, 06:42:15 PM
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If you gamble first and win then you will save your mental energy and then you will gamble again and thus you will eventually become a daily gambler. We know it's not dangerous at first but when you go to the hopper again and again then it becomes reality. My younger brother is betting online and i searched his ID where most of the winning stories were but i fell behind him. On the other hand winning or losing the first time is not what makes them addictive but when you win fast the first time you make it addictiv.
I would say this is not entirely accurate, a first timer in gambling and the luckily scoffing out a win are not those that get addicted, but I will say addiction is caused on the kind of mindset you set out to it. One thing that gets one addicted to gambling is when you don’t treat it as a game but a platform where you must get rich, people look at other people’s winning story and then go into gambling from one game to another and That’s how the addiction goes on. Although some first timers are lure in by the first game but not all of them

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December 15, 2023, 06:46:23 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

This is probably one of the most important tips for those who are interested in gambling. What I mean is to always remember that gambling is a way to make money and that you should use money that you can afford to lose. Because of this, many problems have arisen and will continue to arise for people. They use money they can't afford to lose to make money.
I think that in general it doesn’t matter if a person wins money for the first time or loses it, if he can’t control himself then it’s better not to play at all
Really very very basic but it turns out that tons of people do really mess up their lives because they cant really just follow this simple rules or simple ideas on how gambling should be treated up.
There are ones who could be able to take such control, there are ones who would really be that having no care at all and this is why they would really be falling out into a condition on which they would really be having that kind of impression that gambling could make them rich until the time comes that they would mess up and this is where regrets and realizations would happen.
Lets try our very best on not to end up with this kind of miserable situation because if you do really have this kind of approach and beliefs in mind then it would really be just making you desperate.
If you are someone whose really that mindful and really that responsible on dealing up with gambling then you wont really be finding yourself on such trouble. People do usually ending up on a disaster
if they would really be starting on creating or molding those kind of impressions and beliefs that they could make themselves rich with gambling.Yes, there's a probability but it is really that close to impossible
because of house edge and other factors on which it would really be putting up gambler on a huge disadvantage.

This is why tons of people who do destroy out their lives with gambling because of having those kind of hopes on which this is something that need to get rid of with.
You cant make yourself that get easily rich with gambling because it would really be requiring that extreme luck factor on which it could make things possible.
Important thing is that you wont really be trying out to chase on being lucky and just simply play the game and enjoy it.

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December 15, 2023, 06:54:34 PM
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If you gamble first and win then you will save your mental energy and then you will gamble again and thus you will eventually become a daily gambler. We know it's not dangerous at first but when you go to the hopper again and again then it becomes reality. My younger brother is betting online and i searched his ID where most of the winning stories were but i fell behind him. On the other hand winning or losing the first time is not what makes them addictive but when you win fast the first time you make it addictiv.
I would say this is not entirely accurate, a first timer in gambling and the luckily scoffing out a win are not those that get addicted, but I will say addiction is caused on the kind of mindset you set out to it. One thing that gets one addicted to gambling is when you don’t treat it as a game but a platform where you must get rich, people look at other people’s winning story and then go into gambling from one game to another and That’s how the addiction goes on. Although some first timers are lure in by the first game but not all of them
You will not be addicted if you will not encounter a win first even though you are thinking gambling as platform to get rich because you will be easily discouraged if you lose frequently in the beginning without experiencing the taste of winning.

I myself won’t be gambling for a long time if I don’t have good experience on gambling when I was a newbie. I’m not saying that first game win is a trap but the mindset of getting an early win will give hope to gambler to continue playing because they will be optimistic to win more in the future.

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December 15, 2023, 07:10:08 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.
We all know that gambling is all about luck and if you don't have luck I don't think you can win a gambling but from my understanding I'm seeing that gambling is something when you will win you won't know, so someone can gamble for the first time and win and it's base on the person's luck and same time someone can also gamble for the first time and lose and if he or she tries again and again the person will lose again it depends on the person's luck, so in all gambling is not something you can win and you boasts for it, basically a gambling is a game of opportunity and luck

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December 15, 2023, 10:35:06 PM
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We all know that gambling is all about luck and if you don't have luck I don't think you can win a gambling but from my understanding I'm seeing that gambling is something when you will win you won't know, so someone can gamble for the first time and win and it's base on the person's luck and same time someone can also gamble for the first time and lose and if he or she tries again and again the person will lose again it depends on the person's luck, so in all gambling is not something you can win and you boasts for it, basically a gambling is a game of opportunity and luck
You are correct. Gambling is played on luck. It was always about luck. But we shouldn't say that all the time because there are many fake gambling sites around the internet. These fake gambling site lures the gamblers by rigging the game the first couple of times and after some wins when he builds up enough confident that he can win, that's when the real tricks begins. He ends up losing everything.
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December 15, 2023, 10:56:37 PM
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Beginner's luck, first win trap, they're all the same heuristic fooling people into thinking the odds are with them when it can't be any farther from the truth. There are casinos out there who keeps a profile of every gambler and they may throw a few chickpeas to them in their first game to just entice them to play and spend more. Some casinos just give out coincidental wins to keep either that losing person going, or to keep that first-timer in the game by fooling them into thinking the house is fair.

You must know that every casino has they own set of kinks to earning their money, but none of them would play the 50/50 game with you. If you won first time then good job, but don't expect the subsequent games to be as lucky as that first one.

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December 15, 2023, 11:12:11 PM
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You are correct. Gambling is played on luck. It was always about luck. But we shouldn't say that all the time because there are many fake gambling sites around the internet. These fake gambling site lures the gamblers by rigging the game the first couple of times and after some wins when he builds up enough confident that he can win, that's when the real tricks begins. He ends up losing everything.
Not all gambling games are purely based on the luck, some games need specific skills. However, we can't deny that luck has a big role in most gambling games. Regarding the fraudulence, it doesn't happen in fake gambling sites but it is also possible to happen in real gambling sites. So, we must be careful to choose gambling sites, check the popularity and track-record of the gambling sites!! Anyway, if you are difficult to win in gambling games, it is not always caused by the system on the gambling sites. You also need to evaluate how your knowledge and experience!!

You must know that every casino has they own set of kinks to earning their money, but none of them would play the 50/50 game with you. If you won first time then good job, but don't expect the subsequent games to be as lucky as that first one.
Yep. The house always wins, that's why there are many gambling sites. If they are defeated by gamblers, there will be no many gambling sites. So, it is true that we don't expect much to win again and again, although we already proved that we can win 1 time.


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First off I think gamblers needs to understand that gambling is a two way thing, you either win or you lose but you are meant to expect either a positive or a negative result depending on your luck at the moment. Personally I think first time win is one of the biggest traps in gambling for a beginner who's trying out gambling this is because the win encourages the player to continue with a high hope of getting more profits which may turn him into becoming more interested to gamble more and more probably till he's left with nothing but losing on a first stake in gambling will demoralize a starter into not trying out again but it all takes the ability of the person to either choose to stop or continue.
Become addicted or addictive to gambling comes as a result of a continuous win or loss, for the win the person will keep playing to get more profit which eventually turns him and addict while for loss the person is focused on gambling to recover from his losses which turns him to be addicted too but in all gambling with an amount that won't affect the well being of a person is the best way to gamble.

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December 15, 2023, 11:20:22 PM
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I very rarely find people who have their first loss in gambling then they then chase that loss, because most people who start gambling they use the money they can lose and most if they lose the first time gambling they are indifferent to gambling.

Except for people who first win the first time gambling in their first moment of gambling and can get money 5 to 10 times the deposit they made, it will consider gambling to bring good luck in his life and certainly people who experience it will experience kecanuduan, because he will come again to try his luck in gambling next time, well that's where someone will lose money and can't lose his money until finally he chases defeat.

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December 15, 2023, 11:23:31 PM
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When we talk about gambling games, there are no working *STRATEGIES* that can make someone win or save them from excessive losses apart from the strategy of stopping when the time is right. Gambling games and strategies are two contradicting things, you can't expect to get an upper hand in a gambling game by using a certain strategy when you already know that the outcome will be based on your luck and your applied strategy cannot change that.

So, strategies are a recipe for disaster, those who apply strategies like the martingale or anything to recover the losses or win more will end up losing everything eventually because the house will always have an edge over the gambler and there is no way one can win over the house in a gambling game.

The gambler who use the strategy in the gambling site was engaged with the less win and most of the time no loss.If the gambler get less loss because of the their strategy is greater one.The random bet will give the gambler with the loss,So the strategy may save the gambler from the loss.If you became the master in the gambling strategy,then you can earn from the same strategy.The gambler should know when to stop the game and how to recover the loss money.If the gambler will have the more self confidence in his game,So the gambling site can’t win over such self confidence gamblers.The gambler also need to change their strategies if it not properly.
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December 15, 2023, 11:25:46 PM
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We all know that gambling is all about luck and if you don't have luck I don't think you can win a gambling but from my understanding I'm seeing that gambling is something when you will win you won't know, so someone can gamble for the first time and win and it's base on the person's luck and same time someone can also gamble for the first time and lose and if he or she tries again and again the person will lose again it depends on the person's luck, so in all gambling is not something you can win and you boasts for it, basically a gambling is a game of opportunity and luck
You are correct. Gambling is played on luck. It was always about luck. But we shouldn't say that all the time because there are many fake gambling sites around the internet. These fake gambling site lures the gamblers by rigging the game the first couple of times and after some wins when he builds up enough confident that he can win, that's when the real tricks begins. He ends up losing everything.
The fact is that gambling players are actually made like that. the point is to keep thinking about luck. if they win, they will think they are lucky. and if they are losing they are made to think they are unlucky, so that's when gamblers think that if they are unlucky now, the next try will be lucky. that's the cycle and will continue.

They never think about how much money has been spent to get the satisfaction that is said to be lucky. even though if the total between winning and losing, it will definitely be clear how much the difference is. and most of them experience losses.

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