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December 09, 2023, 05:25:46 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

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December 09, 2023, 05:42:05 PM
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I do not know why it happens this way at first gambling there is a better percentage of people who made profits and this leads to excitement that will in time affect the gambler as he will want to get involved more and more and even stake with higher amount as he feels he did it the first time and looks it as being so much easy.

There are set of people who take this gambling as a means of survival and this set of people are said to be addict and can hardly detect when to stop. One should be wise and have self control, know when to cross the line and understand the gambling system very well before indulging in them. As you made mention, gamble with an amount you can bear to loss, not loan money or the one carry out your cost of living

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December 09, 2023, 05:44:40 PM
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I don't think casinos offer better chances at winning at first. If that was the case it could be exploited easily.
If someone wants to be certain that his rolls are fair and worries too much of things like this, then he can gamble on probably fair casino games.

I think the more realistic issue with luring in players is how easy it is to win on no-stake rolls and fun token rolls. In non provably fair games this can be a real issue.

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December 09, 2023, 05:46:07 PM
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If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

Your observation that the main reason why people become gambling addicts is because they see gambling as a major source of income. The belief that they can earn a living through gambling motivates them to keep gambling until they lose control. You are also correct OP that until these people perceive gambling as entertainment and don't depend on it for survival, they might end up becoming addicted.

I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

I also commented on the thread you are referring to, but what the author of that thread talked about was how a first win could entice first-time gamblers. However this might not be the main cause of gambling addiction because they will learn within a short period that it is not possible to win consistently. But I think what the author was trying to highlight is that newbies shouldn't be deceived by first wins because gambling is an unpredictable terrain.

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December 09, 2023, 05:57:42 PM
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Being addicted is only in the mind. There are just gamblers who are taking it seriously until they struggle to fight its itch. Win or lose in the first, people will play to make quick cash.

I don't know if it's a trap but I chased my loss that's why I ended up continuing and losing more. And it was just a few Dogecoin. This was the first time I gambled in a crypto casino too this was the dice on an exchange site.

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December 09, 2023, 06:06:37 PM
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I got your point and I agree that it's dangerous, and the main reason for this is: User will think it's easy to win. And he will go all the way dow with this mind set.

And the fun part is, most of the newbies win in their first run, some people call it the newbies luck, even users can try this theory, open an account on any new casino for you, then play 10 spins/slot, and you will win before the next 100 rolls.

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December 09, 2023, 06:07:38 PM
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Gamblers should not believe in first game win trap
Experts conducted research that 80% of basic gamblers are trapped in the main win, thus making them addicted and losing a lot of money in the gambling arena. The first winning trap trick has been used for centuries by online and offline casinos.

Human nature is generally greedy, curious and ambitious, where they first gamble and win, the desire to increase their balance for a second win is strong, not knowing that they have fallen into a trap and lost everything.

My advice is to gamble without prioritizing emotions and greed, consider all gambling activities carefully, the first win is the beginning of suffering, so gamble without greed.

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December 09, 2023, 06:25:09 PM
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Conceiving the idea of only making a profit from gambling is a problem some people have. First of all, the primary reason for gambling should not be to only win; the gambler should also have it in their mind that they will win, lose, and catch some money. Gambling is sweeter like that, like knowing what you are actually in for. If you are only in for profit, you will not always be happy any time you lose, and the person might fall into the trap of their first win. This time around, it seems the majority of new gamblers are only gambling because they want to make a profit, and like the OP said, it would be only a few gamblers that probably won on their first bet on the first day they started gambling.

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Poor economic conditions along with weak finances can be one of the factors that become a big push why they continue to stick to gambling, especially if in the initial session of involvement they managed to get a win, they think that it seems like gambling is a solution to improve their finances that are not doing well, when in reality the first win is nothing more than something that can make them always come with high hopes of getting a win like before.

This is gambling where the end result is always unpredictable and only depends on how lucky you are at the time, so apply the understanding to yourself that there is no end result that can always make you smile, stay alert and be careful, everything that looks tempting in gambling is nothing more than a trap that can make you fall into a hole of endless problems.

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There are set of people who take this gambling as a means of survival and this set of people are said to be addict and can hardly detect when to stop.
Not that they take gambling as a means of survival, they wanted to take gambling as a means of survival and they start to lose and gambling does nity become a way as a means of survive but become miserable for them.

Poor economic conditions along with weak finances can be one of the factors that become a big push why they continue to stick to gambling
From research, rich countries like USA and China spend more on gambling than in poor countries. An addict can be poor or rich.

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If you win your first bet in some gambling platforms and it happens to most of the people who gambles for the first time in the platform, that platform is rigged. They are trying to manipulate beginners into thinking that they provide more wins than other platform. And it is also true that first win can trigger a sensation or some rush to gamble more but it is not necessarily the major factor for people becoming addicted to gambling.
Gambling is totally best on luck and if you win your first time then maybe you are lucky. And if you lose, luck is not on your side. If you enjoy gambling and you do it responsibly, do not overthink this too much. Everything that you won or lose is based on your luck. Except whatever you get as you can't change it.
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I do not know why it happens this way at first gambling there is a better percentage of people who made profits and this leads to excitement that will in time affect the gambler as he will want to get involved more and more and even stake with higher amount as he feels he did it the first time and looks it as being so much easy.

Yeah, they call it beginner's luck for a reason.  This whole thing happens 'cause newbie gamblers dont really get how risky it all is, so they're way more likely to throw down some wild bets without thinking too hard about losing it all and  they just figure they can beat the house, not realizing those cards are stacked against them from the start.   

I mean unless the games are rigged to let the new folks win a little extra at first - kinda like dangling a carrot so they bet bigger next round.  But that'd be pretty sketchy, right?

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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.
But what is the major reason why people gamble aside from the fun that they derive from it. I don't think if you remove fun out of why people gamble, there would be anything else aside from the monetary gain. So it will be surprising to expect people to gamble without expecting a win or to wish that a gambler lose in his first time trying to gamble. I think the euphoria that comes with gambling is untimely and it can always spring up at anytime a gambler wins a game, not necessarily his First time. That's why someone can win a gamble today, lose and be sad tomorrow, then win again and be extremely happy as if they were never sad about it . It is because the joy and happiness that comes with winning a gamble is untimely and always side by side with the situation the gambler finds themselves.

Overall, I think people gamble for the thrill that is in the risk of the game, the excitement that comes with winning a gamble, the monetary gain, entertainment, the socialisation, and sometimes to even escape depression. Some people gamble only when they are depressed and when they win , it brings that joy innate in them but the risk is that if they lose, they can become more depressed and hostile. The last reason I can think off is that, people gamble for the sake of solving their financial needs or crisis as oftentimes seen in students cases.

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A gambler with a first win and you say danger? I agree.
It is difficult to first change the mindset about gambling because they have never experienced a losing streak, but with the first win their mindset is only one if playing again he has confidence will win and think it is easy to win in a game then it is quite dangerous.

Still the first gambling person will find it difficult to say that gambling is just for fun and burning money, their goal is definitely to make money in gambling otherwise they will not play because they will not be interested especially for the first time trying.

Because there is money in the game, they are willing to risk any money to win this is more like an addiction.

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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

To be fair, if we separate gambling from betting, I would dare to say that sportbetting can be an actual way to make money if one knows what is going on and how to handle risk. In the other hand, gambling is deffirent from betting, the user has little to no control over the outcome over the result of the gambling session. Even though what you say makes relatively good sense, I still believe that the first win of a novice gambler can enhance their desire to continue to wager money further. If a novice gambler, on the other hand, had a lossing first experience in a casino, I believe it would be less likely for them to continue to gamble.

I do not manage the statistics, though. So I could be completely wrong.


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December 09, 2023, 07:27:20 PM
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first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.
Gamble with the money you can lose.
Of course yes, gambling addictions can be triggered at both sides either at top or bottom of intolerable lost which the gambler is desperate for his bets recovery and while on the context, he is liable to more losts. And the gambler further tends to continues betting sometimes incoherently and imbalanced to apply logical predictions due to the pressures of his lost.
This is state of time is tantamount to gambling addictions

Also, it could be a linger of winning definitely the gamblers inability to control his winning excitement. Here the mindsets of the gambler could be that yeah, I am w lucky gambler and he would want to keep betting hoping to win as like the other time(s).
Sometimes his desperacies of more winning may either earn him more winning or lost at it all but rest assured that he just want to keep betting and maintain a profitable winning level while then his urge of urgency is aroused and nurtured to addictions.

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I have believed that,  there is where the gambler's luck is,  in the sense that, sometimes when you gamble at a particular casino,  you tend to have higher luck than the other and this has been my experience in some few casinos before say on stake where I gamble most,  from the beginning,  I have always had a good luck start-up right from my very first game I was able to win and even though I have recorded some loses,  but still believe that I have high luck on stake than other casinos.

But also I have experienced some other casinos,  where I gambled for several times now, but all ended in losses and I began to believe that my luck was not in that casino.
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

That's right, this casino trick works not only on players who came right away, but also on long-time players who were unlucky at the beginning, but continued to play and play. I mean that a big win can destroy the self-control of even an experienced player.

Today I watched an interview about such a guy, and I felt very sorry for him. The point was that he stuck to his strategy and was successful. But then he won x30 and in the end he lost all that money. It turns out that the casino does not pay such large winnings immediately, but in parts. It is possible for the player to lose all the money before he sees it.

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What I experienced when I first started gambling was that I was not given a win and often I lost, and the win that I got was a process and the win happened in the long term.
However, the first thing I feel in gambling is curiosity, and when I lose I feel curious and hope that on the next bet I will win. And when I win I feel addicted and keep betting in the hope that on the next bet I will win again, and these two things make me continue gambling where actually after I realize I lose more than I win.
But that has passed and has become a lesson for me and now I just gamble for fun with sufficient capital with a little hope that luck will come. If I'm unlucky, and the little capital I have prepared runs out, then I stop.

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December 09, 2023, 07:43:40 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

That's right, this casino trick works not only on players who came right away, but also on long-time players who were unlucky at the beginning, but continued to play and play. I mean that a big win can destroy the self-control of even an experienced player.

Today I watched an interview about such a guy, and I felt very sorry for him. The point was that he stuck to his strategy and was successful. But then he won x30 and in the end he lost all that money. It turns out that the casino does not pay such large winnings immediately, but in parts. It is possible for the player to lose all the money before he sees it.

if i can't withdraw the whole amount i would just gradually do it like their TOS. sounds not legal. but he because he came back and played the casino claimed back what he won. the casino did it successfully. he was tricked.

continuous exposure to casinos is more of a choice it's no wonder many of us keep discussing this addiction, maybe they are indeed addicted since they keep discussing it.
since we keep busy in this forum all the time, we are exposed to casinos.









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Gambling on a casino as a newbie is not always about winning because you can also lose money right away as the casinos business is still the priority and it’s very rare to see a first game win especially if you are a beginner. You can always lose money in gambling because it will always depend on your luck regardless of your strategy, so if you win on your first game better to know how to spend that winnings properly and stay responsible.
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Gamblers should not believe in first game win trap
Experts conducted research that 80% of basic gamblers are trapped in the main win, thus making them addicted and losing a lot of money in the gambling arena. The first winning trap trick has been used for centuries by online and offline casinos.
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That's interesting.  I'm not shocked that there are studies on this revealing such high percentages.  however, I'm still trying to wrap my head around how that initial winning trap actually works.  Do casinos manipulate the games to give new players better odds? And how does this apply nowadays when we have provably fair casinos that supposedly make this impossible?

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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

Gambling is really dangerous especially for beginners and they don't have self-control and they quickly get addicted to that game. I also believe that beginners in gambling often win, that's why we have something called beginners luck in gambling because it's really true. And I also agree with what you said, most of the gamblers think about making money from gambling and that thinking is really wrong, you will get addicted to gambling faster if you think like that. There are also newbies in gambling who can control themselves no matter how excited they are, as long as you have a budget for playing and you don't exceed it, I think you are safe.

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That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.
I agree that it can be dangerous when a first time gambler wins in their first try gambling. Why I think so is, after the gambler wins, he is going to think that things went easy for him to win the prize money, and then will want to try again to see if they can win again on a second attempt. After the second attempt, if he wins again, it reinforces their confidence that they have found an easy way of making money and will make them want to keep gambling, If they loose on a second attempt, they will also still want to try again.

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Conceiving the idea of only making a profit from gambling is a problem some people have. First of all, the primary reason for gambling should not be to only win; the gambler should also have it in their mind that they will win, lose, and catch some money. Gambling is sweeter like that, like knowing what you are actually in for. If you are only in for profit, you will not always be happy any time you lose, and the person might fall into the trap of their first win. This time around, it seems the majority of new gamblers are only gambling because they want to make a profit, and like the OP said, it would be only a few gamblers that probably won on their first bet on the first day they started gambling.
If they have This mind set you just talked about you will see that most of them will end up better gamblers than they are currently because their approach will be definitely different than what it is now, this will affect their amount they stake on every game and how well they manage their risk and how well not to be emotional about gambling.

When the turn it into a profit making venture, their approach turns out different as thy will become emotional about every single losses because they would be seeing it as opportunity for which they would have made money and for that reason they will pursue it by further increasing their stakes and end up loosing even more in some cases, the trap of the beginners luck is always a big challenge for newbies gamblers to get pass.

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December 09, 2023, 08:56:20 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.
The only danger on here is on how you would really be able to interact on things that you are really that seeing in front of you whether you would really be proceeding or not. We know that not all people would really be the same when it comes to control and discipline on which some people would really be just ignoring and moving on on the time that they do lost money on their first try and if they won then they would continue.
Somehow on the time that you are experiencing those initial wins or something that we can call beginners luck then it would really be that pushing us up to play further on which we do have those kind of beliefs
that we might really be able to pull some wins even further and this what makes you desperate because you would really be molding up those kind of thoughts into your mind that it might really be that possible
and there are even those individuals whom they would really be having those thoughts that they could really be able to make themselves rich.

Its not actually a trap if you dont let yourself that get trapped or simply you do have that kind of realistic approach and dealing towards it even on first try. If you have win something then it is really just that a
bonus but if you do lose then just simply move on and call it a day. People do usually mess up just because of those unrealistic approach on things.

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December 09, 2023, 09:01:38 PM
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What I experienced when I first started gambling was that I was not given a win and often I lost, and the win that I got was a process and the win happened in the long term.
However, the first thing I feel in gambling is curiosity, and when I lose I feel curious and hope that on the next bet I will win. And when I win I feel addicted and keep betting in the hope that on the next bet I will win again, and these two things make me continue gambling where actually after I realize I lose more than I win.
But that has passed and has become a lesson for me and now I just gamble for fun with sufficient capital with a little hope that luck will come. If I'm unlucky, and the little capital I have prepared runs out, then I stop.

The early wins trigger the gambler to play more games, even when faced with consecutive losses. Gamblers shouldn't mind the thrills of winning and stop when they feel their money has gone so much into gambling. Ending our bankroll in one day isn't a reasonable gambling strategy. With limitations, a gambler can gamble for weeks without running out of bankrolls. It's good you worked towards money management. Many newbies have been victims of running broke through gambling. Which isn't ideally a sensible way of gambling. The aim of participating in gambling is to be able to know our predicting level. Excellent gamblers don't find it difficult to face life, because they know of the benefits of gambling. Being able to understand, decisions to make in real life. The casino devises different strategies for gamblers, to make more profits for their gambling business. Hence, gamblers are expected to have unique strategies, to avoid the deceits of the gambling house. Some gamblers fall for the strategies of the house, which is giving out few wins, to keep the gambler rolling. Hoping to hit a big win. Then, they'll end up losing out every fund they've won, in one sitting.

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December 09, 2023, 09:50:57 PM
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Conceiving the idea of only making a profit from gambling is a problem some people have. First of all, the primary reason for gambling should not be to only win; the gambler should also have it in their mind that they will win, lose, and catch some money. Gambling is sweeter like that, like knowing what you are actually in for. If you are only in for profit, you will not always be happy any time you lose, and the person might fall into the trap of their first win. This time around, it seems the majority of new gamblers are only gambling because they want to make a profit, and like the OP said, it would be only a few gamblers that probably won on their first bet on the first day they started gambling.
If they have This mind set you just talked about you will see that most of them will end up better gamblers than they are currently because their approach will be definitely different than what it is now, this will affect their amount they stake on every game and how well they manage their risk and how well not to be emotional about gambling.

If someone doesn't learn by reading some principles or from other people's mistakes, then they will make the same mistake and will definitely learn a hard way from their own mistake. There is always a saying that a real gambler knows when to stop. The same is applicable to newbie gamblers. If they actually have plain intentions towards gamblers, then they should know that making success on their first try is not a guarantee that they will keep winning and therefore should continue gambling until their funds are drained.


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If someone doesn't learn by reading some principles or from other people's mistakes, then they will make the same mistake and will definitely learn a hard way from their own mistake. There is always a saying that a real gambler knows when to stop. The same is applicable to newbie gamblers. If they actually have plain intentions towards gamblers, then they should know that making success on their first try is not a guarantee that they will keep winning and therefore should continue gambling until their funds are drained.




The gamblers only learn the game by playing and get learn by their own mistakes.Like the life gambling also the game which we can learn till the end of our living.Every day we can build the own strategy to win in the gambling,the successful strategy of one day may not applicable to the strategy on another day in gambling.So the gamblers should agree to change their strategies in daily basis,if they win on the next day.He can hold that strategy or need to change their strategy in the hard day of gambling to avoid of the loss in the gambling.Gambler self control only made them to shine in the gambling world.

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December 09, 2023, 10:08:10 PM
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Gambling on a casino as a newbie is not always about winning because you can also lose money right away as the casinos business is still the priority and it’s very rare to see a first game win especially if you are a beginner. You can always lose money in gambling because it will always depend on your luck regardless of your strategy, so if you win on your first game better to know how to spend that winnings properly and stay responsible.
Sometimes the easy part might to placed before us for us to fall victim but if we know how to go about it, we might understand the market and make profits for it. It is not easy for us to make reasonable profits as a gambler but as a newbie the road might become very easy for them and they might not know that it is a trap for them to bet more and lose more. I have seen a professional gambler that always go to different locations where he is not known and gamble and catch he's pray by losing to them many time and asking them to stake more bet for a bigger winning, the unfortunate ones mostly obliged and end up losing and keep losing until they realize that they are gambling with a professional.

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Dice most especially is the most trapping game for new com at first you will hit a steady third where they are meant to believe that, their luck will continue to shine over the house, but suddenly the dice will turn against them, and in seconds, you already lose all the winning you accumulated earlier, So for sure, we have some traping games winning and every new gambler should have experienced one or two of such games in the course of play.

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I had a thread like this and it happened to one of my friends  How Do You Convince Someone On Something That Will Not Work and I need hard convincing that not because you have won on your first sessions you'll think that it's easy money and every session will be in your favor, whether you win in your first or lose in your first sessions the fact remains that you cannot make money from gambling.
Casinos are business for every 1 winner there are 10 losers and you can not be in the winner bracket all the time, you're time will come you just don't know when so always be prepared.

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I once bet on soccer sports in the European Premier League. I supported a top team at that time and I bet very big there, suddenly my money disappeared because the team I supported lost.

My mistake at that time was, thinking that gambling could make money 😅, and ignoring the rule that gambling is a fun game. I am sure that gambling providers and players also want mutual profits, when we feel that our luck or our comfort when playing any type of gambling is disturbed, it is better to stop or look for a new, comfortable place.

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December 09, 2023, 10:43:15 PM
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What to believe? Beginner's luck or the first game win trap? Let's just all enjoy gambling and let the newbies enjoy their bets whether they win or lose. I agree with the last part of what OP said about gambling only what you afford to lose. It all ends up with that story when someone wants to gamble but only with that amount that he's very fine to lose.

Let the new gamblers experience their fate with their first bets. Win or lose, let them feel the essence of feeling how it's like. Because they will be the one to determine what it is actually, if it's beginner's luck or the first game win trap. But regardless of that, we're all going to have some good moments and many losing moments so, share the joy and don't skip the fun but with proper management and control so that you won't lose a lot.  Tongue

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December 09, 2023, 10:43:35 PM
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Alright, it's true that the next step a new individual to gambling might probably take after getting a win or a loss in his first time of ever gambling is all depending on his mindset towards gambling. It's is of a certainty that by getting a win at your first gambling you will be lured to gamble more and more in a chase for more more wins which mostly lead to losses instead. There are persons that lost at first and still got addictive while some others won at first hand and stopped there never got addicted. However, the tendency for a new gambler to get easily addicted quickly to gambling is higher in the part of getting a win in the first time of gambling due to the excitement for more continuous wins.
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Alright, it's true that the next step a new individual to gambling might probably take after getting a win or a loss in his first time of ever gambling is all depending on his mindset towards gambling. It's is of a certainty that by getting a win at your first gambling you will be lured to gamble more and more in a chase for more more wins which mostly lead to losses instead. There are persons that lost at first and still got addictive while some others won at first hand and stopped there never got addicted. However, the tendency for a new gambler to get easily addicted quickly to gambling is higher in the part of getting a win in the first time of gambling due to the excitement for more continuous wins.

this type of question for me is a very subjective matter so the answer to this question will vary from one person to another. addiction will be at bay if the person doesn't have much thing to do or he has no other activities that he can use his spare time to.
let us put it this way, i don't believe in the first game trap as addiction will depend on the current situation of the player himself, financial, emotional status.

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December 09, 2023, 10:50:47 PM
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Gambling on a casino as a newbie is not always about winning because you can also lose money right away as the casinos business is still the priority and it’s very rare to see a first game win especially if you are a beginner. You can always lose money in gambling because it will always depend on your luck regardless of your strategy, so if you win on your first game better to know how to spend that winnings properly and stay responsible.
Yes, but the OP's point is based on the statistics: many first-time gamblers win because of the unknown aspect or anything. It is indeed a trap for first-time gamblers because they are eager to play more and earn more, which will result in either a good or bad path. But even if the gambler loses for the first time, it could also be a trigger for that gambler to earn more even if they lose. Why? It's because they will chase their losses as it's their first time gambling and regret losing their money, or they can't take the idea of losing. Either way, losing or winning is a trap for first-time gamblers, without a doubt. However, it is up to the individual whether he will allow himself to become addicted, because there will be no addiction if they don't let themselves become addicted; it is their own doing and their own decisions.

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We once discussed this discussion, and I said that in fact most of what was said was just rumors. or, it's just something that is believed from one gambler to another with myths that gambling the first time usually gives you a win. in fact, it's not like that.  although, it seems that there are some casinos that have tricks like this to attract lots of new customers. that too, with the limits they have adjusted to. In essence, I agree with what you said. So, in fact luck plays an important role, especially in games that are based purely on luck. However, this has become very inherent in gamblers, and not a few even believe in it.

For me personally, none of that is a problem. Most importantly, a person must be prepared for the risks they face every time they carry out a gambling session. especially for beginners, before they get involved in gambling, whether just to try, for fun, or even seriously to make money from gambling. You must first know the methods and systems of gambling. Apart from that, the effects that can be caused if you don't have a broad understanding of this entertainment. There's nothing wrong with sharing experiences with gamblers who already have long experience.

Most importantly, we should not seek knowledge from gamblers who are addicted even if they are veteran gamblers. and there are no other words, other than gambling according to our abilities and limits without having to harm other parties or even our families. it doesn't matter whether we are beginner gamblers or old gamblers, we must be fully aware and instill basic concepts within ourselves.

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It's true, first games were mostly won and this is not kind of planned thing. It happens randomly and the same keeps the gambler active hoping for better outcome in the upcoming bets. As suggested gambling is fun and we should have the limitations on spending. Beyond the limit will let us get caught into the trap which we'll understand when we take a break after a long session with our gambling statistics on the losing side.

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December 09, 2023, 11:51:33 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.
And it seems like on most gambling platforms or especially slots, many people apply this strategy. Provides winnings at the beginning of the user's betting. So that new users feel confident that their luck on this platform will be great. And then they will add deposits again and again to get bigger wins. Without realizing it, it turned out that their deposit was much larger than what they got at the start. defeat after defeat in gambling is not felt, because they have high hopes of winning in the next round of betting/gambling/slots. And this thought seems to continue to take root and is present among gamblers, especially those who are starting to become addicted. This is a really dangerous trap. So, if you have that opportunity, it's better to just withdraw immediately after winning at the start. Don't be tempted by high hopes of getting another win in the future. because this is like trying to get a needle in a super tall and huge haystack.
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December 10, 2023, 12:00:42 AM
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Alright, it's true that the next step a new individual to gambling might probably take after getting a win or a loss in his first time of ever gambling is all depending on his mindset towards gambling. It's is of a certainty that by getting a win at your first gambling you will be lured to gamble more and more in a chase for more more wins which mostly lead to losses instead. There are persons that lost at first and still got addictive while some others won at first hand and stopped there never got addicted. However, the tendency for a new gambler to get easily addicted quickly to gambling is higher in the part of getting a win in the first time of gambling due to the excitement for more continuous wins.

It is very possible, and for the problem of how high their level of interest in gambling after getting the first win I think it really comes back to their perspective on gambling, and also their personal life situation and conditions also play a role in this, it seems like for example those who only have below average or even poor finances in my opinion they will be more likely to put full interest in gambling, it cannot be denied that they will think that gambling is a pretty good place to make money and improve their financial situation which is quite bad.

Something like that is very likely to lead someone into addiction, a very high interest will make them put high expectations as well and after that it is very likely that they will enter the cycle of "winning happy and losing curious". Basically, the situation they experience there is just spinning, chasing victory at the expense of some defeat and when they get a victory then the amount they get usually can only return all the capital they have sacrificed at the beginning or can be said to be a break-even point, actually there is nothing better except to stop or to just reduce it.

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December 10, 2023, 06:32:11 AM
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first win may be the first factor in someone becoming addicted because that when dopamine increases giving excessive pleasure and the mindset becomes thinking that gambling can provide large amounts of money in a short time and that when gamblers who bet for the first time will feel greedy and start gambling again without realized he was entering the addiction zone at an early stage.

and for gamblers who lose almost all the time for the first time, they feel afraid to gamble again because it is the first time they have lost and at that time they will feel hesitant to gamble again.

but in my opinion, this is all just about the condition of each individual mindset, even if they lose or win the initial bet, if their mind is very broad and understands the negative impacts of gambling, they will definitely not be addicted, but in general, winning has a big chance of becoming addicted.

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December 10, 2023, 08:40:58 AM
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First game win trap do works on some people, generally I believe it depends on the gamblers, you never know how they will react, some will win and they will start thinking that gambling is this easy and some won't, it depends on who you are.

If all people in the world are new to gambling, it's highly likely that only 1 out of a thousand will win on their first game, it doesn't always happen this way, I don't see any reason to be worried for such people, if they win the first game it's certain they won't win the second one, they will learn what it feels like to lose in gambling.

Peoples mindset are different for many reasons, I could have lost it all in gambling but because I have heard a lot of bad things about gambling and gamblers I choose to be very careful with gambling and the possible effect it can have on me, if you allow it I believe gaming is powerful to break you or anyone.

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December 10, 2023, 08:50:03 AM
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There is no lie in the fact that new gamblers usually have a higher chance of getting addicted to gambling if they manage to win and get a profit in their first couple of gambling sessions because it's human nature that someplace where you've got something that made you happy, you tend to go back to that place again just in the hope that you might get some happiness again from there, the feeling that you've felt earlier won't be easily forgotten and it will keep making you think about it all the time.

So, if gamblers lose money in their starting gambling sessions, they won't think of gambling again because they will remember the bad experience they had in the beginning. However, gamblers who manage to get some profit initially when they get into gambling will surely gamble again because they had a great experience earlier.

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December 10, 2023, 09:19:33 AM
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There is no lie in the fact that new gamblers usually have a higher chance of getting addicted to gambling if they manage to win and get a profit in their first couple of gambling sessions because it's human nature that someplace where you've got something that made you happy, you tend to go back to that place again just in the hope that you might get some happiness again from there, the feeling that you've felt earlier won't be easily forgotten and it will keep making you think about it all the time.

So, if gamblers lose money in their starting gambling sessions, they won't think of gambling again because they will remember the bad experience they had in the beginning. However, gamblers who manage to get some profit initially when they get into gambling will surely gamble again because they had a great experience earlier.

I agree! sometimes those people who have had an experience of winning on their first try are the one who possibly get addicted because as you have said, it's a human nature that if a person satisfy on their first try, they tend to go back and doing it again without noticing that there's something wrong happen. I believe that you can automatically win if a system noticed that you're a new player or newly created account for those online gambling, there's a tendency that you will get to win but on the latter part, you will notice the consecutive losses that's why people should aware about beginners luck.



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December 10, 2023, 09:21:38 AM
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People who gamble for the first time often get lucky and can win at gambling. But when he repeats gambling another day, he may not be as lucky as on the first day because there is a possibility that he will lose and that will trigger him to gamble longer to recover his losses. Thinking about winning at gambling will make the gambler deeper into gambling and he can end up becoming addicted to gambling. This has been experienced by many gamblers out there. They end up losing control of themselves and cannot use gambling properly. But if after playing gambling several times, he can understand that gambling is not for making money, he will understand that he does not need to gamble for too long and will limit his gambling activities.

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December 10, 2023, 09:23:50 AM
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Playing for the first time is not the basis if the gambler is going to become addicted or not. Regardless of you win or lose when you first time playing, it still depends on your mindset towards gambling. Is it a way to make money or just for entertainment?

But there are people who see losses as an indication to just stop because of that bad experience. While others chose to continue to somehow recover back their money. Some of us believe that winning can trigger the gambler to keep playing, it might be true. But again, it depends on how you treat gambling, how you value your money to risk in games where luck is a major factor to be able to win. Because if you have no discipline and just let your emotion control you, certainly gambling can affect you negatively that can lead to addiction.

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December 10, 2023, 09:41:45 AM
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I agree! sometimes those people who have had an experience of winning on their first try are the one who possibly get addicted because as you have said, it's a human nature that if a person satisfy on their first try, they tend to go back and doing it again without noticing that there's something wrong happen. I believe that you can automatically win if a system noticed that you're a new player or newly created account for those online gambling, there's a tendency that you will get to win but on the latter part, you will notice the consecutive losses that's why people should aware about beginners luck.
Those who win when they play gambling for the first time, of course they don't understand how to play this gambling well and they play without having the burden and also the target of being able to win so that they can easily win and when they understand how the game works. It will be very difficult to win because they have set a big target to win the gambling.

If they are just starting to gamble and win, it would be better for them to still be able to control themselves in the game, don't let them play the game continuously because this will get them into trouble.

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December 10, 2023, 09:44:11 AM
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Gamblers should not believe in first game win trap
Experts conducted research that 80% of basic gamblers are trapped in the main win, thus making them addicted and losing a lot of money in the gambling arena. The first winning trap trick has been used for centuries by online and offline casinos.

Human nature is generally greedy, curious and ambitious, where they first gamble and win, the desire to increase their balance for a second win is strong, not knowing that they have fallen into a trap and lost everything.

My advice is to gamble without prioritizing emotions and greed, consider all gambling activities carefully, the first win is the beginning of suffering, so gamble without greed.

A first time win can encourage a newbie in gambling to become comfortable and believe that winning is easy in gambling, and he can continue gambling until he'll probably lose all the wins and initial capital and then starts to chase loses with new capital. Although this is not a guarantee that the gambler will end up as an addict, he might decide along the way to gamble responsibly or quit, or he might choose to be greedy and continue to gamble heavily in order to recover loses. So in the end it's not really because of first win or lose that makes people to be gambling addicts, it's the decision and discipline of the gambler in the long run that determines whether he'll gamble responsibly or become an addict.

A simple definition to avoid addiction will be gamble for fun and use a budgeted capital for it, no matter how the game turns out, win or lose when the gambling budget is exhausted, then call it quit till the next budget.

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December 10, 2023, 09:59:34 AM
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Maximum time i have seen that the biggner Gambler win at their first gambling. Maybe its their luck fevour on them . That winning luck not work every time. That's the reason again they sometimes go for extra gamble. But I think they should believe the gambling strategy when they do gamble. After winning the get confident that the trap for beginners gambler.
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Maximum time i have seen that the biggner Gambler win at their first gambling. Maybe its their luck fevour on them . That winning luck not work every time. That's the reason again they sometimes go for extra gamble. But I think they should believe the gambling strategy when they do gamble. After winning the get confident that the trap for beginners gambler.

Maybe what you say is true, for the problem of the number of wins it is indeed out of our control or even the gambler who does the session and I say it seems like they are being lucky at the beginning of their involvement. Of course it won't always work, or I mean they won't always get lucky to win in every session, I said out of 10x tries there might only be 1 or 2x wins that occur with a certain amount. Because basically gambling does not have any certainty for gamblers to get a pretty good result or vice versa, therefore it is absolutely not recommended for them to overdo it, especially with the amount of budget that is beyond their ability, it will only make them feel disappointed and hurt.

Another thing is that I don't think there is a strategy that will work 100% accurately to increase your chances of luck, the randomness that exists in gambling is real and has been proven by several cases of gamblers who lose more than earn even though they use the best way according to them, so it's better not to believe in it too much and you better apply a lot of restrictions strictly for your safety.

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December 10, 2023, 10:44:25 AM
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Indeed, the first win can make gamblers more careless because they are curious and challenged to win again, even with larger amount, they will spend more money to chase this win.
But telling those who are just starting to gamble or are beginner gamblers will only be in vain and cannot have any impact or impact on them because what they really have is their goal of winning.
From this it can be concluded that victory is their goal and we cannot change things like that and only they themselves can correct what has been wrong in their thinking for the purpose of winning.

But if it is said that only the first win is the most dangerous then that is not true because defeat is also very dangerous.
Just relying on surveys that have not been clearly proven cannot be used as an accurate assessment.
Just as comparison, winning will be difficult to obtain and they will stop chasing victory if they have experienced many defeats, but the first defeat will make the gambler disappointed and try to recover and it clear that the two are equal.

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The first win that we get, can lead to an assumption that this gambling can give us profit.  The victory at the beginning of the game, can make us careless in gambling because we think that luck and victory are on our side. So we behave carelessly by increasing the amount of bets up to many times. And the victory at the end of the game, this can lead to an assumption, that there is always hope even though your balance has started to run low. And again this can cause us to behave carelessly, by continuing to play even though we have often lost.

And departing from that, it is important for us to be wiser in responding to all the wins we get in gambling. Do not let the victory we get can change our behavior in gambling.

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December 10, 2023, 11:19:19 AM
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It's a big trap for every beginners, it doesn't have to be the first try, assuming they start with Slots game and after six rounds they net good amount of money, they will probably think it's this easy to win money in a casino, that's where they will start having dreams in their head, they will straight think about their bank account and how much they have.

It's very possible to be a addicted gambler from day one if you start winning straight away, all the hard earned money you keep in your bank account will be your next target, someone very close did this in 2022 and he went so broke that he returned to driving job he once left six years ago.

It's better to understand what you are getting into before going fully desperate on it, know and understand the risk of gambling, you will safe yourself from desperate attempt, it's 95% chances of never getting anything out of gambling, you don't want to bet your life on it.

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I think you got it wrong? It's not the first "game", but rather the first "win" that they get. So it doesn't matter even if you did the survey you're talking about. And in the case that I was pertaining to, first wins usually have a bigger dose of dopamine imo since it's the first time you both won a gamble and you received money through it at the same time. While it may not apply to all of us, I reckon most of us had that surge of adrenaline at that point.

But if it were your case, It's just a never-ending cycle really, regardless if you win most of the time or lose most of the time. Both sides have that incentive of persuading you to bet more with losing being "recoup" and winning being "win more" kind of idea.

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December 10, 2023, 11:30:48 AM
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And departing from that, it is important for us to be wiser in responding to all the wins we get in gambling. Do not let the victory we get can change our behavior in gambling.
I'm sure we've all been beginners at gambling, that's why advice like this is very important, don't get caught up in the first win you get because it's not necessarily completely ours, it could be that when we continue playing, the winning money will actually be drained again, the point is don't let the victory blind our eyes and make us forget to stop gambling.

For experienced gamblers those who are trying to play at a new casino for the first time to win there usually they know what they have to do which is to withdraw a few percent of the winnings and leave a little to gamble again and continue the game if they lose they will leave and come back later, this it is important for beginners to follow the way experienced players play so as not to get stuck on their first play. control emotions in any situation  Wink

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Unless some gambling platforms intentionally do this, I think it’s just luck but we pay a lot of attention to it because “it’s my first time and I won”. Gambling and losing the first time happens too, we just try to play again but forget that we would have recorded it in our head that we lost the first time so there would be no believe tied to the first win mentality. But note that no matter what, consistently playing or addiction has nothing to do with if you win or not… after all some people have self control and know their limit no matter how much they win.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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first win may be the first factor in someone becoming addicted because that when dopamine increases giving excessive pleasure and the mindset becomes thinking that gambling can provide large amounts of money in a short time and that when gamblers who bet for the first time will feel greedy and start gambling again without realized he was entering the addiction zone at an early stage.

and for gamblers who lose almost all the time for the first time, they feel afraid to gamble again because it is the first time they have lost and at that time they will feel hesitant to gamble again.

but in my opinion, this is all just about the condition of each individual mindset, even if they lose or win the initial bet, if their mind is very broad and understands the negative impacts of gambling, they will definitely not be addicted, but in general, winning has a big chance of becoming addicted.

        -  Actually, the first win at the casino is really the first trap for a gambler to become addicted, and winning at gambling is the way for a gambler to return to the casino. That's true, and I believe that.

But it didn't lead me to become addicted to gambling; I only play gambling occasionally when I have too much money or I'm bored, because gambling gives me entertainment and also relieves me when I'm in trouble sometimes.

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It's dangerous for gamblers who will think that they could repeat the same win over and over again. That could actually lead to gambling addiction because they are hoping over and over again and even if they are losing more they will try again because they already experience winning once or twice.
But correct, if a gambler is in control then this kind of trap is nothing to worry about. If we already accepted that it's going to be difficult to win against the house then we are okay. Only those who are too optimistic to think that they can defeat them with a large margin will be the ones who are in trouble.
I've experienced winning as a newbie and I already withdrawn the money from the gambling site and enjoyed all the profits with my kids. After that rest, I played back and luckily won again. Enjoyed that profit one more time until in the recent couple of months I am not able to win anymore. It's like everything I won was taken back and in my computation, most of the profits from before are almost equal to the losses in USD.
But that didn't make me a gambling addict, I still have control that whenever my budget is done, I will stop. That made me realize that gambling will take back what we won, it may take them a long time but they will claim it back slowly unless we get out of casino games.

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Playing for the first time is not the basis if the gambler is going to become addicted or not. Regardless of you win or lose when you first time playing, it still depends on your mindset towards gambling. Is it a way to make money or just for entertainment?

But there are people who see losses as an indication to just stop because of that bad experience. While others chose to continue to somehow recover back their money. Some of us believe that winning can trigger the gambler to keep playing, it might be true. But again, it depends on how you treat gambling, how you value your money to risk in games where luck is a major factor to be able to win. Because if you have no discipline and just let your emotion control you, certainly gambling can affect you negatively that can lead to addiction.
Is it naive to reduce addiction to mentality and discipline? We must accept casinos' clever strategies for hooking gamblers. Everything from slot machine sounds and lights to casino floor architecture is carefully engineered to attract and retain gamblers. In addition to strength, a person must understand their environment. Every piece is designed to attack human vulnerabilities in this psychological battleground. Isnt it equally vital to teach potential gamblers about these traps as mindset?

Money and winning are triggers, yes. What about societal factors? Do peer pressure, gambling camaraderie, and the glamorization of "large winnings" contribute to addiction? Gambling is social. Gambling may be for fun or profit, but social dynamics often influence behavior. Why not also address these social factors and educate individuals about how they can be quietly manipulated into gambling more than they intended? Not just the individual, but the gambling ecosystem. Dont we need a broader, more comprehensive approach to identify and reduce gambling addiction risks?

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December 10, 2023, 01:41:36 PM
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Most people that are gambling for the first time, did that because they wanted to make profit. Some gamblers will have already gotten addicted, and after they have overcome their addiction, will now understand that gambling is done for fun. Another set of gamblers are those that will not get addicted but after so much loss on gambleling is when they will now realize themselves that chasing their loss is leading them to more losses. This is when they will stop gambling for profit but for fun. In gambling experience is what teaches or disciplines a gambler for him to be able to control his gambling activities.

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If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.


It depends on the character of the gambler, some gamblers get motivated when they win on their first tries and spend time and money trying to extend their winning run, and some gamblers even though losses on their first tries continue to play, usually get their inspirations from gamblers who succeed from gambling, thinking that they can duplicate their access.
Their battle cry is if others can do it why not me I can do better than this guy so I will keep on trying until I get that winning formula.
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December 10, 2023, 05:34:22 PM
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Most people that are gambling for the first time, did that because they wanted to make profit. Some gamblers will have already gotten addicted, and after they have overcome their addiction, will now understand that gambling is done for fun. Another set of gamblers are those that will not get addicted but after so much loss on gambleling is when they will now realize themselves that chasing their loss is leading them to more losses. This is when they will stop gambling for profit but for fun. In gambling experience is what teaches or disciplines a gambler for him to be able to control his gambling activities.
Usually, they are curious because they have seen videos of other people who have won a lot of money, so they want to try it too. In this first game, they were able to get the victory they wanted, and this is what made them want to come back another day. But some gamblers don't stop immediately after winning because they are too greedy to want to win even bigger. They actually use their winnings to continue gambling, but unfortunately, most of them end up losing, which wastes all their money. But this also doesn't make them stop gambling and think that gambling is just an entertainment activity. Instead, they continue gambling again after they get more money. This is what triggers them to become addicted to gambling, and most of them will not realize it.

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Yes it's true. People’s behavior is based on experience, and when the gambling experience is positive from the very beginning, it is later very difficult to change your attitude towards it. I knew one gambler who played slots for the first time and won a car (several thousand dollars at that time). This played a very cruel joke on him. Then he lost this car and a lot of money trying to win again.
If his experience had not begun with such a pleasant event that he remembers for the rest of his life, then perhaps he would not have become addicted to gambling.

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No matter how much you try to warn newbie gamblers, they'd still believe that beginner's luck carries on and they are destined to win a lot of games just because they won the first time. Winning something releases feel good hormones which is addicting, and those who can't control these urges tend to chase this feeling because it is already embedded in their brains. It's just like doing something you deem as fun, and because you are enjoying it, you keep on coming back to it.

I guess the best advice is that those who gamble should keep track of how much they spent on gambling and that they take things easy. It's something that will claw through you every now and then and you'll give in because you're feeling lucky.
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If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.


It depends on the character of the gambler, some gamblers get motivated when they win on their first tries and spend time and money trying to extend their winning run, and some gamblers even though losses on their first tries continue to play, usually get their inspirations from gamblers who succeed from gambling, thinking that they can duplicate their access.
Their battle cry is if others can do it why not me I can do better than this guy so I will keep on trying until I get that winning formula.
Indeed, different gamblers has different response on their first win. But if we would base on what's usually happening, then for sure it is gamblers who are thrilled on their next bets after a winning one than with gamblers who are still playing after their first loss. And I guess it is where this idea originated. However we could only prove whether the argument is wrong or not once you get to that point wherein you will decide whether to continue playing or to stop already. Individual differences would as well matter and we just tend to complicate the idea due to our assumptions. If you're just unsure if your exposure to this industry would be good or bad in your end, then stop already. Winning and losing will both come its way to you.

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December 10, 2023, 06:01:19 PM
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Yes it is all about mindset, no matter what is the result of our first time gambling, it can be dangerous if we do not know what to do next.
Some people who won their first time gambling may think like "it is easy to make money", "I think I'm lucky with this game" or something similar which make them continue.
On the opposite side, some people who lost their first gambling may think "I'm unlucky now, maybe next", "I have to take back what I lost" so they continue.
Both situations are dangerous situation that may lead gamblers into addiction, I dont think that it is a trap but it is more about how to make decision with what to do based on what we get. 

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Starting from curiosity because some of my friends got a big enough win from the gambling activities he did, it encouraged me to join the world of gambling and immediately started betting with a large enough amount. But the first time I played gambling, I got a significant defeat. So I saw that this gambling really could not provide any benefits at all. And think that gambling is just about luck. And there are people who say that someone who has just entered the world of gambling will immediately get a big win. I think that's just nonsense.
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December 10, 2023, 06:52:06 PM
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There is no certain approach that best suits all gambling styles or personalities, this calls for us to know ourselves in relation to the game we desire and get to bet and at the same time manage both ourselves and our accounts proactively. I will not be among the people who are preaching fear into the minds of gamblers, this can only cause them not to be free with their gambling. This preaching is particularly not true, there is no relationship between the first-time result and the next tries, let fate and expertise continue to work for you as a gambler. The first winning can't stop another winning if it must, and the first loss can stop the next winning or loss, it is what it is.

If a gamble didn't play the second time, how would he know if it was going to be a win or loss? It has to do with our minds and this can't be a cause of addiction truly. I've also said it here more than once, addiction is a different issue, so I'm kinda of agreeing with the OP here as people often overemphasize things here. We should just be budgetary, know the games we are playing fully well, and have a good plan and not go astray from the plan. Our discipline must also be intact as it's the only way that could preserve our betting psychology. If we lose it, then we are no longer in control but emotions have taken over.

And of course, we should only budget the money we can afford to lose and never exceed that limit.

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December 10, 2023, 08:58:43 PM
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Starting from curiosity because some of my friends got a big enough win from the gambling activities he did, it encouraged me to join the world of gambling and immediately started betting with a large enough amount. But the first time I played gambling, I got a significant defeat. So I saw that this gambling really could not provide any benefits at all. And think that gambling is just about luck. And there are people who say that someone who has just entered the world of gambling will immediately get a big win. I think that's just nonsense.
But I don't know what happens if the first time I play gambling I immediately get a win. Maybe I will think the same as people, that this gambling can really benefit the players.

Well that is what we call risk in gambling, we really don't know what will be the outcome is, it could be based on luck, 50/50 chance or sports betting wherein odd makers put a team or a individual as favorite. Yes, there are a people who win immediately the first time when they enter gambling, maybe though you are not that lucky. Nevertheless, even if you lose the first time, it can still be motivation for others to chase what they have lost and so the cycle begin with either a big win or a small lost.

If you are talking about benefits, then obviously it's the free money and then the excitement that you are going to feel. What we call the adrenaline rush and so others are going to be trap with this first win as they want to repeat the process and that feeling again and again.
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December 10, 2023, 09:11:08 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

Its a joke, a myth, a gamblers fallacy and it will be repeated again and again by many people in the future.
In the online casino, it is impossible to set it by design, I think no need to take seriously for a topic like that.
Many people also will consider it as a joke either.

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December 10, 2023, 09:35:13 PM
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It's dangerous for gamblers who will think that they could repeat the same win over and over again. That could actually lead to gambling addiction because they are hoping over and over again and even if they are losing more they will try again because they already experience winning once or twice.
But correct, if a gambler is in control then this kind of trap is nothing to worry about. If we already accepted that it's going to be difficult to win against the house then we are okay. Only those who are too optimistic to think that they can defeat them with a large margin will be the ones who are in trouble.
I've experienced winning as a newbie and I already withdrawn the money from the gambling site and enjoyed all the profits with my kids. After that rest, I played back and luckily won again. Enjoyed that profit one more time until in the recent couple of months I am not able to win anymore. It's like everything I won was taken back and in my computation, most of the profits from before are almost equal to the losses in USD.
But that didn't make me a gambling addict, I still have control that whenever my budget is done, I will stop. That made me realize that gambling will take back what we won, it may take them a long time but they will claim it back slowly unless we get out of casino games.

The house takes everything we've won in gambling, you're right. Newbie gamblers fail to understand that competing with the house is quite demanding. And would eat up all their funds. Winning and withdrawing immediately sounds cool, but it'll be better to gamble a bit more, maybe twice, before taking the funds. Because if care is not taken the winner will wager all they've won and deposit more in the process of winning big. After the bank roll has been completely spent the gambler will feel sad for his mistakes. The problem revolves around every gambler who thinks they can win against the house. Those who gamble for fun have a better chance of winning than the loss-chasing gamblers. Who doesn't plan their money or time, while gambling? They also bring a bad name to the niche of gambling. As many hate gambling in society, because of the actions of addicted gamblers. Unless a person reads about gambling, they'll always see all gamblers as an irresponsible person. Due to their experiences with a loved one who has been abusing gambling. So, gamblers shouldn't believe in any win trap, they can only get lucky at some point, then withdraw money, like you, and move on. During their next gambling session, they can easily spend a few funds, if no win arrives, the player should stop and rest. Winning is not a must in gambling. Players who think it's a must to win in gambling will face deep trouble in gambling.

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December 10, 2023, 09:44:34 PM
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If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made.
It would be interesting if we could see the percentage of gamblers who win on the beginning of their journeys for real. Anyway, I believe if someone loses on their first attempt, the chances they are going to continue playing isn't the same when compared to someone who has won. And the more they lose at the beginning, less likely it will be they continue betting as well.

I've seen some comments from laymen on social medias who were recently introduced to gambling through social influencers, but didn't manage to win anything, so they just gave up immediately.

We, human beings, tend to only repeat behaviors and actions we are reinforced to. If there isn't any reinforcements by the environment, but punishments (to lose money) instead, there is no reason to keep trying.

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The lessons learned from loss leaves an indelible impression on the gambler than the wins. When you lose at first, you learn to sit back and review, reflect on the games you played, why you lost and what you can do so that it doesn't happen again.

On the other hand, if you win on your first game, you will think that it is walk in the park and that the odds are in your favour. You will get carried away and leave your gambling activity to chance. Most of the mistakes we made in gambling from the beginning would have been averted if only our first outcome was a loss.

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December 11, 2023, 01:04:21 AM
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Gamblers should not believe in the first game win trap! Yes, it is totally true Yesterday I played a demo game from the pragmatic with just 4 spins I got 20 free spins and had a jackpot two times  Grin Grin. Back years ago I played slot and also won the jackpot big and lost it all in the next few days like literally all of it. What a joke but it is what it is.

Deal with it guys. But because we win at first time we think it is sweet to play gamble and earn money

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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

Gambling is really dangerous especially for beginners and they don't have self-control and they quickly get addicted to that game. I also believe that beginners in gambling often win, that's why we have something called beginners luck in gambling because it's really true. And I also agree with what you said, most of the gamblers think about making money from gambling and that thinking is really wrong, you will get addicted to gambling faster if you think like that. There are also newbies in gambling who can control themselves no matter how excited they are, as long as you have a budget for playing and you don't exceed it, I think you are safe.

The case that what OP says can happen can be, of course, but in novice players, because novice players who have no idea what the game means, have in mind that they are going to win, what they have certain money and they are going to multiply it, and they enter with that type of thinking, they also believe in the mistake that if they have this value and lose it, then they don't care, because they put more money back to continue betting in the casino, and they don't They know that money at that time becomes secondary, because the emotions, the impulses are what sometimes play for one as a person, one can also observe that sometimes luck can be on one's side, but later They can change things for the worse, and that losing streak is what can make us all go wrong, so this is similar to things when in a hillo he talks about addiction can be born after a winning streak.

In part I know that this is the case, because a person who enters a casino for the first time and wins frequently for a reasonable amount of time, and who from one moment to the next begins to lose, and lose, the person would not be satisfied, because He knows that he was previously winning a lot of money, so he thinks that if he continues to play hard because he will be winning and that his streak will be much better than the previous one, then that is where the casino acts, because the casino has its house advantage , that's why they say that the house always wins, then when things change for the worse is where you know the true player, the one who is impatient, the one who loses control, the one who cannot accept that he can succeed. things as they are in the casino, then things can turn out to be a nightmare, or they can be stressful, also put pressure, all this can turn into a gaming session, when they lose the notion of what casinos are, what they are made of. to enjoy, to have fun.


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December 11, 2023, 05:24:28 AM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.
Because there are a lot of stories like that and coming from my fellow gamblers' stories they are tempted to bring more money and explore gambling as a means to make money when they experience winning on their first tries and we have so many threads about new gamblers falling into believing that they can make money from gambling because of their beginners' luck this is a fact it may not be true to other people but the fact remains that so many people fall into this trap that is why we have the saying beginners' curse in gambling

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If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.
But those who on their first tries experienced that beginners have a stronger motivation and belief that they can make money from gambling than those who suffered a series of losses from their first tries they are the ones who started to spend more time more money and explore ways to continue what they experienced on their first tries, you know in gambling you are motivated by your results and if you see good results in your first tries you start to believe that its possible to make money in gambling so you devise or explore methods so you can continue winning.

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Starting from curiosity because some of my friends got a big enough win from the gambling activities he did, it encouraged me to join the world of gambling and immediately started betting with a large enough amount. But the first time I played gambling, I got a significant defeat. So I saw that this gambling really could not provide any benefits at all. And think that gambling is just about luck. And there are people who say that someone who has just entered the world of gambling will immediately get a big win. I think that's just nonsense.
But I don't know what happens if the first time I play gambling I immediately get a win. Maybe I will think the same as people, that this gambling can really benefit the players.
Of course, not everyone can get a big win the first time when they first start gambling, in fact this kind of perspective is just talk from other people, in fact there are still many new players who were not able to win even though they have spent a lot of money gambling.  This is of course just a warning to people who win for the first time in gambling so that they can limit their gambling
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December 11, 2023, 09:51:48 AM
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Starting from curiosity because some of my friends got a big enough win from the gambling activities he did, it encouraged me to join the world of gambling and immediately started betting with a large enough amount. But the first time I played gambling, I got a significant defeat. So I saw that this gambling really could not provide any benefits at all. And think that gambling is just about luck. And there are people who say that someone who has just entered the world of gambling will immediately get a big win. I think that's just nonsense.
But I don't know what happens if the first time I play gambling I immediately get a win. Maybe I will think the same as people, that this gambling can really benefit the players.
Of course, not everyone can get a big win the first time when they first start gambling, in fact this kind of perspective is just talk from other people, in fact there are still many new players who were not able to win even though they have spent a lot of money gambling.  This is of course just a warning to people who win for the first time in gambling so that they can limit their gambling

Only some of them or some of them can get a win when at the beginning of their involvement luck comes at the same time when they have a session, the title above is just a warning if in the first session of  gambling you get a win then you should not easily believe and not say that all gamblers will get a win at the beginning of their involvement.
As you said, there are still many gamblers out there who have spent a lot of money but still have not won at all, and that is a big reason for the statement that "gambling is just about luck".

On the other hand, the warning made by the OP is very good, because lately I have seen that it is true that gamblers who put too much hope and confidence in income from gambling when in the early stages they can already get a win, the luck that comes at the beginning is like brainwashing them into assuming that "gambling is an effective way to earn" even though the initial victory is nothing more because at the same  time luck also comes. So it is hoped that for you and those especially who have just come to better understand what gambling is along with the concept of victory and the risks that are there, it is very useful so that you are not carried away by negative currents and end up in a slump.

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December 11, 2023, 10:31:23 AM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

What's even more dangerous is that casino and gambling companies know this, which gives them incentive to engineer their gaming platforms to give new players more wins after they've just registered. They will likely have statistics showing that even if they give a player back more than their deposit amount during the first few days of consistent play, they'll be able to get more out of the player long term. So not only does the player face a trap of their own making, there is great bias for the gambling site to psychologically trap someone too.

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December 11, 2023, 01:25:36 PM
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Starting from curiosity because some of my friends got a big enough win from the gambling activities he did, it encouraged me to join the world of gambling and immediately started betting with a large enough amount. But the first time I played gambling, I got a significant defeat. So I saw that this gambling really could not provide any benefits at all. And think that gambling is just about luck. And there are people who say that someone who has just entered the world of gambling will immediately get a big win. I think that's just nonsense.
But I don't know what happens if the first time I play gambling I immediately get a win. Maybe I will think the same as people, that this gambling can really benefit the players.
Of course, not everyone can get a big win the first time when they first start gambling, in fact this kind of perspective is just talk from other people, in fact there are still many new players who were not able to win even though they have spent a lot of money gambling.  This is of course just a warning to people who win for the first time in gambling so that they can limit their gambling

Only some of them or some of them can get a win when at the beginning of their involvement luck comes at the same time when they have a session, the title above is just a warning if in the first session of  gambling you get a win then you should not easily believe and not say that all gamblers will get a win at the beginning of their involvement.
As you said, there are still many gamblers out there who have spent a lot of money but still have not won at all, and that is a big reason for the statement that "gambling is just about luck".

On the other hand, the warning made by the OP is very good, because lately I have seen that it is true that gamblers who put too much hope and confidence in income from gambling when in the early stages they can already get a win, the luck that comes at the beginning is like brainwashing them into assuming that "gambling is an effective way to earn" even though the initial victory is nothing more because at the same  time luck also comes. So it is hoped that for you and those especially who have just come to better understand what gambling is along with the concept of victory and the risks that are there, it is very useful so that you are not carried away by negative currents and end up in a slump.
With hopes aglow in our hearts and fantasies of little victories sparkling in our eyes, we enter their territory. We tell ourselves, "It's my lucky day," as we hold our first, delicious victory, the beginner's trophy. The worst part is that it's a deceptive illusion, a trap. How many people have entered with their pockets full of beginner's luck only to emerge with their pockets empty? Infinite, my companion. Yes, we have seen them. The bright-eyed newcomers, telling stories of their "unbeatable" systems and "foolproof" techniques. Comedy gold!

And so, here's the paradox: we're tempted, are we not, even if we know better? It's intoxicating - the rush, the adrenaline. Let's not fool ourselves, though. We are the consenting marionettes of a master puppeteer, and that is gambling. They say the house always wins, and who are we to disagree? Therefore, let's remember to take a quick look in the mirror as we laugh at the naivete of others. Do we differ in any way?

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December 11, 2023, 01:40:12 PM
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No matter how much you try to warn newbie gamblers, they'd still believe that beginner's luck carries on and they are destined to win a lot of games just because they won the first time. Winning something releases feel good hormones which is addicting, and those who can't control these urges tend to chase this feeling because it is already embedded in their brains. It's just like doing something you deem as fun, and because you are enjoying it, you keep on coming back to it.

I guess the best advice is that those who gamble should keep track of how much they spent on gambling and that they take things easy. It's something that will claw through you every now and then and you'll give in because you're feeling lucky.

Yes that's right, the first win they get makes them confident that the next game can get the same win back and even get a bigger win, and this is already a fact. most beginners who have won at the beginning will continue to gamble because they are sure they will get a win back in the next game. even though it is not necessarily clear, most likely they will get a defeat that will drain their finances too not in small amounts. but in large amounts if they cannot limit their gambling.

And of course this will be detrimental to themselves where they have been made confident by the victory they got at the beginning. and make it a good start, even though everything is reversed. the initial victory is defeat.

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December 11, 2023, 01:43:55 PM
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It's tricky to rely your betting amount and the frequency of your bets in the future just because you won during your first try. Sometimes, they say that a first time is a charm, but it isn't like that for everyone. Some gets lucky, while some don't, and that's the reality. So you should manage your expectations when it comes to winning because not everytime luck will be in your favor.

If you do win during your first bet without much background knowledge, then good for you. But think thoroughly and research for the next time around. Nothing beats a person with an enough information and skills to win a bet alongside with luck.
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December 11, 2023, 01:50:13 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

What's even more dangerous is that casino and gambling companies know this, which gives them incentive to engineer their gaming platforms to give new players more wins after they've just registered. They will likely have statistics showing that even if they give a player back more than their deposit amount during the first few days of consistent play, they'll be able to get more out of the player long term. So not only does the player face a trap of their own making, there is great bias for the gambling site to psychologically trap someone too.

Just imagine if a person signed up on the gambling platform and on his first five attempts all were a loss. Would he still be back to gamble? Not right. This kind of marketing strategy means that the gambler will come back the second time, which means that there is a huge chance that he will deposit a huge amount of money but the result is he will lose it. Though I am not saying in all aspects as I do believe in gambler's beginners luck as I have experienced this mostly in physical gambling, right now in online gambling it is hard to determine if it is gambler's luck or if they just do it so that you will come back.
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December 11, 2023, 01:54:31 PM
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And of course this will be detrimental to themselves where they have been made confident by the victory they got at the beginning. and make it a good start, even though everything is reversed. the initial victory is defeat.
The thing that should not be done when gambling is not to be too confident in winning at the start because that can lead anyone to defeat. It is true what you said that an initial win is a loss that is not expected by all gamblers, I mean beginner gamblers because they are usually too confident and confident in the victory they just got for the first time they played.

There are many cases where casinos play with people's feelings to find out their character and how they play gambling, therefore the dealer never experiences defeat and always wins in the end, gamblers will only become losers and addicts if they can't really control those feelings at the first win. they get, it really is a trap that every novice gambler must understand.

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December 11, 2023, 09:19:04 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

Winning or losing their first gambling experience is not the reason why it is dangerous for the beginner.  It is the possibility of losing one control that is dangerous in gambling. Since when they lose their control, these people will be using money the can not afford to lose and eventually selling their properties in order to support their gambling activities.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

It is true that not all who have their first engagement in gambling win huge amount of money.  A great example is people who are buying lottery tickets.  Almost all first time buyer of lottery tickets losses.   The thing the fuels this people who losses in gambling is the shining possibility of winning a jackpot which can change their lives.
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December 11, 2023, 09:59:18 PM
Last edit: December 11, 2023, 10:10:43 PM by Fatunad
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Starting from curiosity because some of my friends got a big enough win from the gambling activities he did, it encouraged me to join the world of gambling and immediately started betting with a large enough amount. But the first time I played gambling, I got a significant defeat. So I saw that this gambling really could not provide any benefits at all. And think that gambling is just about luck. And there are people who say that someone who has just entered the world of gambling will immediately get a big win. I think that's just nonsense.
But I don't know what happens if the first time I play gambling I immediately get a win. Maybe I will think the same as people, that this gambling can really benefit the players.
Of course, not everyone can get a big win the first time when they first start gambling, in fact this kind of perspective is just talk from other people, in fact there are still many new players who were not able to win even though they have spent a lot of money gambling.  This is of course just a warning to people who win for the first time in gambling so that they can limit their gambling

Only some of them or some of them can get a win when at the beginning of their involvement luck comes at the same time when they have a session, the title above is just a warning if in the first session of  gambling you get a win then you should not easily believe and not say that all gamblers will get a win at the beginning of their involvement.
As you said, there are still many gamblers out there who have spent a lot of money but still have not won at all, and that is a big reason for the statement that "gambling is just about luck".

On the other hand, the warning made by the OP is very good, because lately I have seen that it is true that gamblers who put too much hope and confidence in income from gambling when in the early stages they can already get a win, the luck that comes at the beginning is like brainwashing them into assuming that "gambling is an effective way to earn" even though the initial victory is nothing more because at the same  time luck also comes. So it is hoped that for you and those especially who have just come to better understand what gambling is along with the concept of victory and the risks that are there, it is very useful so that you are not carried away by negative currents and end up in a slump.
With hopes aglow in our hearts and fantasies of little victories sparkling in our eyes, we enter their territory. We tell ourselves, "It's my lucky day," as we hold our first, delicious victory, the beginner's trophy. The worst part is that it's a deceptive illusion, a trap. How many people have entered with their pockets full of beginner's luck only to emerge with their pockets empty? Infinite, my companion. Yes, we have seen them. The bright-eyed newcomers, telling stories of their "unbeatable" systems and "foolproof" techniques. Comedy gold!

And so, here's the paradox: we're tempted, are we not, even if we know better? It's intoxicating - the rush, the adrenaline. Let's not fool ourselves, though. We are the consenting marionettes of a master puppeteer, and that is gambling. They say the house always wins, and who are we to disagree? Therefore, let's remember to take a quick look in the mirror as we laugh at the naivete of others. Do we differ in any way?
Specially when you are just simply doing your first gambling sessions or simply being a noob on which on the time that you do make up those win then this is the time that you would really be having those kind of thoughts that winning in gambling would really be just that easy and this would really be the start on making yourself getting involved with gambling because of those kind of hopes and beliefs that you do have in mind.
Its a common thing and scenario on which this is where control and discipline would really be that relevant. First wins arent really that a trap knowing that gambling do really just simply involves neither winning or losing.
it is really just that things been mold up basing on the situation because if you are that someone whose really having that good control then you wont really be finding yourself for any problems
on which it is really just that right that you would really be having reactions but if you do have that kind of control then everything wont really be that much hard to understand and able to assess it well.

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December 11, 2023, 10:28:37 PM
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Yes, I agreed with you on the clause that, if a someone play a gamble and win for the first time, he would be excited and that excitement would lead him to a great loss because he has not really master the games and because of the win he would be motivated to play more games at all time to win big. But I didn't win my first attempt in gambling so I was not motivated to any game. I play my normal game whenever I visit a casino center be in the bar or hotel or Beach. Take gambling for only for fund then you will enjoy it. Many come to the gambling space because they have seen someone won big amount of money and they are coming there to play and win. And the opposite is found in them.
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December 12, 2023, 01:40:47 AM
Last edit: December 15, 2023, 12:33:11 AM by wallet4bitcoin
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What's even more dangerous is that casino and gambling companies know this, which gives them incentive to engineer their gaming platforms to give new players more wins after they've just registered. They will likely have statistics showing that even if they give a player back more than their deposit amount during the first few days of consistent play, they'll be able to get more out of the player long term. So not only does the player face a trap of their own making, there is great bias for the gambling site to psychologically trap someone too.

You see these gambling sites are actually strategic in their thoughts and approaches.

Yes, they are in for money making but they also want to increase productivity using psychological means when possible.

I personally believe they employ the services of psychologist to psycho-analyze people and their behavioural patterns and then deploy it as a strategy.


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December 12, 2023, 02:19:56 AM
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Yes, I agreed with you on the clause that, if a someone play a gamble and win for the first time, he would be excited and that excitement would lead him to a great loss because he has not really master the games and because of the win he would be motivated to play more games at all time to win big. But I didn't win my first attempt in gambling so I was not motivated to any game. I play my normal game whenever I visit a casino center be in the bar or hotel or Beach. Take gambling for only for fund then you will enjoy it. Many come to the gambling space because they have seen someone won big amount of money and they are coming there to play and win. And the opposite is found in them.
When someone wins the first gambling game they play, it will certainly make them interested in the gambling they are playing, but if they cannot control themselves in the game they are playing, it will certainly cause them to experience a lot of losses so that they spend a lot of money to be able to gamble.
It's true that it's better for us to enjoy playing than just winning at gambling and getting money and if we only focus on winning and money, of course we won't have time to enjoy the games we play.
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It’s not a trap to be honest. Yes we gamblers just become more excited after winning the first game and then we think that we will win big amount from gambling. You can only consider it as a trap only if the casino manipulates the game’s outcome. But it’s your luck which plays an important role. You need to control yourself and don’t get away with the first win emotion. Gamble in limit and with the amount that you can afford to lose.

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Maybe it's a coincidence that those who play gambling for the first time are lucky enough to suddenly win gambling, so of course if you're a first-timer and that happens to you, you'll think it's good to gamble when you get lucky and win.

And usually also because what makes them feel is that he always has luck in his mind when he plays gambling, so that means he already has the mindset that he will come back to gamble again. That's his positive mindset toward gambling.



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December 12, 2023, 04:40:22 AM
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And of course this will be detrimental to themselves where they have been made confident by the victory they got at the beginning. and make it a good start, even though everything is reversed. the initial victory is defeat.
The thing that should not be done when gambling is not to be too confident in winning at the start because that can lead anyone to defeat. It is true what you said that an initial win is a loss that is not expected by all gamblers, I mean beginner gamblers because they are usually too confident and confident in the victory they just got for the first time they played.

There are many cases where casinos play with people's feelings to find out their character and how they play gambling, therefore the dealer never experiences defeat and always wins in the end, gamblers will only become losers and addicts if they can't really control those feelings at the first win. they get, it really is a trap that every novice gambler must understand.

It's not wrong to be confident in something, but if we are too confident, that's not good, it can lead to mistakes that will create chaos. Yes, that's right, beginning gamblers or beginners are usually too self-confident so they believe that the actions they take are correct, where after they lose they still gamble with full confidence that they will win again, not realizing that in my opinion they are trapped in gambling because of the initial victory they get which makes them too confident.

The defeat that many gamblers get is a win for the bookie who always makes a profit for everyone who gambles. This cannot be opposed, it is difficult to beat the dealer's machine, even though the system is random, the big possibility is defeat, not victory.


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December 12, 2023, 06:40:37 AM
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Maybe it's a coincidence that those who play gambling for the first time are lucky enough to suddenly win gambling, so of course if you're a first-timer and that happens to you, you'll think it's good to gamble when you get lucky and win.

And usually also because what makes them feel is that he always has luck in his mind when he plays gambling, so that means he already has the mindset that he will come back to gamble again. That's his positive mindset toward gambling.
Those who are gambling for the first time have the possibility of winning and that has happened a lot to people who are new to gambling. They might think that playing gambling is easy and they can win, but in reality, that won't be the case because in the second gambling game, they might experience loss and that could cause them to lose all their money.

Those who feel that playing gambling is easy and can win will feel disappointed because gambling is not what they expected. As they get more and more losses, it doesn't make them realize it. Instead, they want to win more and more. And that will result in them gambling more often instead of trying to control themselves and limit themselves from gambling.

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December 12, 2023, 06:46:53 AM
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I think that is really how gambling works. Without trap, the owner of the gambling site won't make any profit just by making odds in favor of the bettor.  It all runs on codes maybe random or not so I think things could be staged and made it unnoticeable for gamblers to realize the truth about the dirty tricks casino owners embedded on their casino games like slots. First game win trap is a more effective trap we sometimes get into.



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December 12, 2023, 09:22:16 AM
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For the first time many gamblers are wearing such traps in gambling. In the beginning they are very difficult to understand and those who are addicted are more affected. They do not understand the loss of their own thinking that they will get a huge amount of money for the first time, so they are more in the trap. The gambling will have to make money on an uncertain result as a bet. Many people argue that there is nothing wrong with gambling as long as the gambler's money is with themselves and he is addicted this is what we take to the gamblers addiction and the gamblers lose their control.

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December 12, 2023, 09:53:27 AM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

The reason people first try gambling is because they heard that gambling is the best way to make money, maybe there will be a few wins at the beginning but in the end all they often get is defeat, gambling is something that really makes people addicted, those who can't resist themselves to gamble, it will only make them worse off in their gambling, there have been many cases where gamblers were given a win at the start but ended up going bankrupt due to running out of capital and debts that had accumulated due to gambling.



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December 12, 2023, 10:00:14 AM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.
When someone is new to gambling, he has no good or bad experience with gambling.  So if he luckily wins his first bets then he has a good experience with gambling and he thinks that he will win like this in the future even if he loses later he thinks that he can win again and recover these losses.  Thinking this, he continued to gamble and suffered huge losses.  And if someone loses at the beginning of the game, he first has a bad experience which reduces his interest in gambling and he does not become a serious gambler.



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December 12, 2023, 10:02:10 AM
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The reason people first try gambling is because they heard that gambling is the best way to make money, maybe there will be a few wins at the beginning but in the end all they often get is defeat, gambling is something that really makes people addicted, those who can't resist themselves to gamble, it will only make them worse off in their gambling, there have been many cases where gamblers were given a win at the start but ended up going bankrupt due to running out of capital and debts that had accumulated due to gambling.
I agree that the reason some peoole start to gamble is because they see it as a way to make money, but I do not think they heard from people that they gamble and make money from it. Gambling is in the nature of humans as they will see it as a way of making money without anyone advising them. Another thing is that someone can first gamble and lose, but still thinking that he can use it to make money and continue to gamble and get addicted. Be it you win or lose at first time does not means anything.

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December 12, 2023, 10:22:18 AM
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The defeat that many gamblers get is a win for the bookie who always makes a profit for everyone who gambles. This cannot be opposed, it is difficult to beat the dealer's machine, even though the system is random, the big possibility is defeat, not victory.


I think that's what must be instilled into the minds of gamblers, no one can beat the dealer's machine, still the dealer will always win, even though gamblers often win in the first game but the habit of gamblers is often greedy with that win and tries to look for higher wins. Moreover, the winnings are not entirely his because if he continues to play the winnings and even the capital he has will continue to be drained.

Loss will always stick with any gambler, so we don't have to be surprised by that. As long as we can control ourselves so we don't get caught up in the games provided by the casino, maybe we can avoid losing a lot of money when gambling. The point is, don't be greedy when gambling, especially when you win the first game. Self-control when gambling is a way to continue gambling safely.

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December 12, 2023, 11:08:56 AM
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Yes, I agreed with you on the clause that, if a someone play a gamble and win for the first time, he would be excited and that excitement would lead him to a great loss because he has not really master the games and because of the win he would be motivated to play more games at all time to win big. But I didn't win my first attempt in gambling so I was not motivated to any game. I play my normal game whenever I visit a casino center be in the bar or hotel or Beach. Take gambling for only for fund then you will enjoy it. Many come to the gambling space because they have seen someone won big amount of money and they are coming there to play and win. And the opposite is found in them.
When someone wins the first gambling game they play, it will certainly make them interested in the gambling they are playing, but if they cannot control themselves in the game they are playing, it will certainly cause them to experience a lot of losses so that they spend a lot of money to be able to gamble.
It's true that it's better for us to enjoy playing than just winning at gambling and getting money and if we only focus on winning and money, of course we won't have time to enjoy the games we play.
The first win of a new gamble is like a trap from him to enter into gambling well. And if they loss they would lose interest to continue but will be willing to try their luck but if they win then they would be going there to win and not try their luck game again. The first lucky games is a motivation to new gamblers. And the funniest thing is that when they win at first and loss at second they would like to play continuously for having the hope that they are going to win their loss and that is the beginning of gambling addiction. And as I said earlier if one wants to enjoy gambling then play it for fun and not having the mindset to earn from it because if you put your mind on that then when you loss and you will be disappointed.
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December 12, 2023, 11:15:17 AM
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There is no way to avoid it anyway, whatever plays out depends on the person, it is better if you don't win on your first time gaming, because you will feel how hard it could get to win in gambling, although it doesn't make a lot of difference but it's still way better than someone who win in their first gambling experience, this is bad for the long term as they will think it things will always work in their favour.

It's even more disturbing if the begginer don't have any exposure to how gambling really works or what other gblinv experiences have been in their past time, it's like saying you go into something you don't know anything about and you don't even bother to do any research, I believe that if beginners do their research about gambling, someone will tell them not to go into gambling and some will say it's fine, there will be few people that will warn them about addiction, and having that fear alone can make them gamble with care.

They will have to try as see, with what they can afford to lose, just to see what will happen, this is better than someone who just make up their mind that they can get rich with gambling and they risk any amount of money they can, even the type they have can't afford to lose.

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December 12, 2023, 01:06:29 PM
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Suppose in a gambling game that if someone wins the first time it creates a trap for gamblers who are confident of winning the next time. Gamblers should keep in mind that gambling takes luck and it is not always easy to win in gaming. It is better not to win but the addiction to winning is bad. Not all gambling strategies will work in their favor. That's why it will be easier to avoid the trap if you stop excessive gambling.

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December 12, 2023, 02:28:02 PM
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Only some of them or some of them can get a win when at the beginning of their involvement luck comes at the same time when they have a session, the title above is just a warning if in the first session of  gambling you get a win then you should not easily believe and not say that all gamblers will get a win at the beginning of their involvement.
As you said, there are still many gamblers out there who have spent a lot of money but still have not won at all, and that is a big reason for the statement that "gambling is just about luck".

On the other hand, the warning made by the OP is very good, because lately I have seen that it is true that gamblers who put too much hope and confidence in income from gambling when in the early stages they can already get a win, the luck that comes at the beginning is like brainwashing them into assuming that "gambling is an effective way to earn" even though the initial victory is nothing more because at the same  time luck also comes. So it is hoped that for you and those especially who have just come to better understand what gambling is along with the concept of victory and the risks that are there, it is very useful so that you are not carried away by negative currents and end up in a slump.
With hopes aglow in our hearts and fantasies of little victories sparkling in our eyes, we enter their territory. We tell ourselves, "It's my lucky day," as we hold our first, delicious victory, the beginner's trophy. The worst part is that it's a deceptive illusion, a trap. How many people have entered with their pockets full of beginner's luck only to emerge with their pockets empty? Infinite, my companion. Yes, we have seen them. The bright-eyed newcomers, telling stories of their "unbeatable" systems and "foolproof" techniques. Comedy gold!

And so, here's the paradox: we're tempted, are we not, even if we know better? It's intoxicating - the rush, the adrenaline. Let's not fool ourselves, though. We are the consenting marionettes of a master puppeteer, and that is gambling. They say the house always wins, and who are we to disagree? Therefore, let's remember to take a quick look in the mirror as we laugh at the naivete of others. Do we differ in any way?

The first win at the beginning of the engagement can indeed change the mindset of a gambler significantly, some people may consider that winning is a normal thing because they understand that they are in gambling activities which basically have wins and losses, but for some people who really have very high enthusiasm they will exaggerate it or mean that victory by creating many assumptions in their minds that can trigger the arrival of a high enough confidence. They like to build scenarios in their own minds to make them believe more in the results of gambling, none other than that because they are too exaggerated in responding to the first victory which ultimately makes them have high confidence and expectations, when in fact it is not based on common sense but only based on hallucinations, they like digging deeper holes to trap themselves.

A scenario that runs in the brain that is not based on awareness and not considered with common sense will produce something that will deceive yourself, in fact it is not the casino that deceives you but yourself and your own mindset that makes you feel disappointed in the end because the results are far from appropriate. I think understanding is one of the most important things here so that you are not misguided.

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Well that is what we call risk in gambling, we really don't know what will be the outcome is, it could be based on luck, 50/50 chance or sports betting wherein odd makers put a team or a individual as favorite. Yes, there are a people who win immediately the first time when they enter gambling, maybe though you are not that lucky. Nevertheless, even if you lose the first time, it can still be motivation for others to chase what they have lost and so the cycle begin with either a big win or a small lost.

If you are talking about benefits, then obviously it's the free money and then the excitement that you are going to feel. What we call the adrenaline rush and so others are going to be trap with this first win as they want to repeat the process and that feeling again and again.

And believe me, when I continue to chase a victory like other people have, and continue to try to return the capital I have spent, I will only deepen my losses. it's a natural thing. and that's why I don't really expect big wins when gambling, and just let it go when I experience a loss.

And talking about sports betting, this goes back to our knowledge of the sport and our ability to carry out match analysis techniques. Because by having good knowledge and analytical skills, we will always be able to increase our chances of winning.

And so, here's the paradox: we're tempted, are we not, even if we know better? It's intoxicating - the rush, the adrenaline. Let's not fool ourselves, though. We are the consenting marionettes of a master puppeteer, and that is gambling. They say the house always wins, and who are we to disagree? Therefore, let's remember to take a quick look in the mirror as we laugh at the naivete of others. Do we differ in any way?

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December 12, 2023, 09:57:10 PM
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Winning is not a trap even if they gamble on luck-based games.
Sports betting or some skill based games can be won when they are really able to do the analysis properly and have expertise about it. So I don't think it's a trap even if some of us consider it a myth.

I don't believe in such myths, but winning and losing are part of gambling. It is not true that it is a trap, but perhaps it is considered a trap because some gamblers start to get addicted after the first win.

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Last edit: December 12, 2023, 10:16:13 PM by Sandra_hakeem
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It's a scheduled raffle...; It'll drop on your ticket Id today and would eventually drop for another tomorrow... It doesn't have to be yours everyday (especially for virtual gamings).. so If a one-time win can eventually convince anyone to keep gambling, then it means that your winnings were just given to you to keep the frequency - I can't call that a win for you cus you're definitely gonna spend them and lose everything without a doubt.
I don't believe in such myths, but winning and losing are part of gambling. It is not true that it is a trap, but perhaps it is considered a trap because some gamblers start to get addicted after the first win.
wait ... Cut it, Cut that shit up!! Losing is a myth to you? Seems you've got a different lexicon to the regular ones that defines the word "MYTH" in a different sense ... Cause what's this??

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December 12, 2023, 10:07:20 PM
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It is the truth actually, outcome of first game, whether it be a win or loss, isn't always the necessary reason why most gamblers get addicted to gambling, it's all a matter of personality and perspective, a gambler who first does his or her research and discover the risks involved with gambling will always gamble with precuastion, regardless of what the outcome of his or her first game is, if it's a win, he or she will understand that, the win is and would never be constant or consistent. And if it's a loss, he or she would know that loses are very Normal and common in gambling, as that there is no harm in accepting a loss even multiple times, for there will always be some winnings at the end of the day as time progresses.

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December 12, 2023, 11:01:17 PM
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We can't just simply say to other gamblers that they should not believe in such a first-game win trap.

Let them push through and experience themselves those they should expect once they continue to gamble. Whether they fall or not after that first-game experience, only they can tell. Newcomers won't understand it until they push their gambling experience.

Later on, they will realize the true meaning behind the first-game winning experience.
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December 12, 2023, 11:24:16 PM
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Winning is not a trap even if they gamble on luck-based games.
Agree. Winning isn't a trap, the wrong mindset is a true trap. If we have the mindset in gambling, we will be trapped in the wrong way in gambling.

Sports betting or some skill based games can be won when they are really able to do the analysis properly and have expertise about it. So I don't think it's a trap even if some of us consider it a myth.
There is some bets that can be analyzed with knowledge and experience. But there is also bets truly depending on the luck. However, the luck basis isn't a trap, it is just an opportunity to win it. Before we do betting, we already understand about the chance to win it. So, it won't function as a trap because we actually realize it.

I don't believe in such myths, but winning and losing are part of gambling. It is not true that it is a trap, but perhaps it is considered a trap because some gamblers start to get addicted after the first win.
Indeed. There should be wins and loses in gambling. If we don't want to lose, we simply don't try to gamble.
No, I don't think people will automatically start to be addicted after they got the first win. As long as the gambler understands the nature of gambling, he/she won't be addicted. He/she must realize that it is impossible if he/she will always win the gambling. There should be time in the future that he/she may experience severe loses.


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December 12, 2023, 11:49:00 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

First time win or lose never has anything to do with gambling addict. The mindset one have for gambling is the major cause of being an addict. Immediately one start purchasing is lost or believing you can become a billionaire through gambling within second, then problem has started already.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

It's high time people get to know this. The more they know the more the enjoy gambling. Gambling should be fun and not something that will turn you to think of lose.

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First time win or lose never has anything to do with gambling addict. The mindset one have for gambling is the major cause of being an addict. Immediately one start purchasing is lost or believing you can become a billionaire through gambling within second, then problem has started already.
It's true that winning or losing has nothing to do with addicts, but that's one of the causes of becoming addicted and you yourself said all this is just about mindset.
so this is how a beginner gambler comes to gambling playing a slot machine after 10 spins and gets a maxwin win and that's when the gambler has the mindset that it turns out gambling can give him money and he will continue to think about the win until the time comes when he comes back again to play slots and losing then depositing again until the time comes when he loses all the money in his pocket while his mind is still curious about his defeat and has additional thought patterns such as being sure to win after losing and continuously making deposits using borrowed money and finally the first signs of addiction have started.

on the one hand, losing can also be the cause of someone becoming addicted for beginners but the potential is not as big as winning except for a beginner gambler who has the idea of wanting to get a big win after seeing his friend win big and starts gambling even though he is losing he keeps trying until the time comes when he loses it all and become addicted to chasing losses.

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The defeat that many gamblers get is a win for the bookie who always makes a profit for everyone who gambles. This cannot be opposed, it is difficult to beat the dealer's machine, even though the system is random, the big possibility is defeat, not victory.


I think that's what must be instilled into the minds of gamblers, no one can beat the dealer's machine, still the dealer will always win, even though gamblers often win in the first game but the habit of gamblers is often greedy with that win and tries to look for higher wins. Moreover, the winnings are not entirely his because if he continues to play the winnings and even the capital he has will continue to be drained.

Loss will always stick with any gambler, so we don't have to be surprised by that. As long as we can control ourselves so we don't get caught up in the games provided by the casino, maybe we can avoid losing a lot of money when gambling. The point is, don't be greedy when gambling, especially when you win the first game. Self-control when gambling is a way to continue gambling safely.

Yes, you are right, the win that a gambler gets is a temporary win, where if they continue the game to get a bigger win, then it is possible that the win that they have achieved can be taken back by the dealer, but this cannot be done. hidden. Many gamblers continue playing to get big wins without thinking about the loss of the winnings they have earned and their capital which could also be lost because of this unsmart choice.

There's nothing wrong with wanting a bigger win because all gamblers want that, but rather than continuing the game where there is a risk of losing the winnings you have earned as well as the capital you have, it is better to play smartly. They can first cash out the winnings they get or at least cash back the capital they bet. Maybe this can be done so that there is no loss of capital staked at the start. Even though the winnings you have obtained are gone, at least there is unused capital or capital that is still safe. As you said, don't be greedy, and to continue gambling safely you have to have self-control, that's what you have to remember.

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December 13, 2023, 06:13:43 AM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.
well some called that a Beginners Luck mate and yeah I believe it is dangerous because this
will lead you to believe that there is truly a winning in gambling and will condition your mind that you can earn
better in simplest way of betting .
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December 13, 2023, 06:48:04 AM
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It is important for novice gamblers who want to enter the world of gambling to pay close attention, that losing and winning are the results of gambling, so like it or not, novice gamblers must be ready to accept this, and not only that. the most important thing is how we can control ourselves when we are in the casino. , and try to resist the temptation of every trick you see. Maybe that way, every gambler, both experienced and new, will minimize losing a lot of money.

For novice gamblers who only want to chase wins and don't see defeat in sight, this is very difficult to do and will likely result in losing a lot of money quickly.

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December 13, 2023, 07:28:01 AM
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Before engaging or entering gambling , better that the person knows what is this and how it is.

Knows the two sides and that is winning and losing(but majority is to lose of course)  because gambling is a money making machine of operators/owners .

there might be winning specially when you are starters(don't know if this can be read by the system letting newbie to win)  but the things to follow? on what will be the future? lol that is losses.

but it maybe a trap as given first winning , always remember to know when to stand and when to stop  because all losers are mostly the people who wanted to beat the table completely.









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December 13, 2023, 08:37:39 AM
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If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

The story will be different for different individuals, some gamblers, the reason for their addiction is the first time winning trap as it becomes a trap for them as they weren't prepared for winning so they think winning when gambling is very easy and continue gambling until they become addicts. It's dangerous when individuals that keeps winning think they can't lose and that's what winning does to most of the individuals gambling.

While other individuals, the reasons for their addiction is as they're not disciplined individuals in life so when they start gambling with that same attitude, it becomes a disaster. When an individual wins he still can become an addicted gambler and also when he loses he can become more addicted to gambling due to him chasing after the his losses and trying to win back his money with revenge gambling. Many individuals don't use the money they can afford to lose when gambling.

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December 13, 2023, 09:34:24 AM
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Maximum time i have seen that the biggner Gambler win at their first gambling. Maybe its their luck fevour on them . That winning luck not work every time. That's the reason again they sometimes go for extra gamble. But I think they should believe the gambling strategy when they do gamble. After winning the get confident that the trap for beginners gambler.
Gambling is mainly about luck, so yeah, their luck favours them during their winning moment. And yeah, luck does not stay forever. This is why a gambler can lose sometimes and they can feel disappointed which will made them go back and see if their luck had come back this time. Again we can get lucky to predict it correctly but most of the times it's not the case that happens, because gambling owners are always setting the winning difficulty to high.

Like I said earlier/first, gambling is mainly about luck, so we shouldn't believe or rely on the strategy. And indeed it can only trap us, which is only an added waste of money, time and effort.

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December 13, 2023, 09:50:11 AM
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It is important for novice gamblers who want to enter the world of gambling to pay close attention, that losing and winning are the results of gambling, so like it or not, novice gamblers must be ready to accept this, and not only that. the most important thing is how we can control ourselves when we are in the casino. , and try to resist the temptation of every trick you see. Maybe that way, every gambler, both experienced and new, will minimize losing a lot of money.

For novice gamblers who only want to chase wins and don't see defeat in sight, this is very difficult to do and will likely result in losing a lot of money quickly.
Winning and losing are normal things, but the most important thing is not to get caught up in winning for the first time because usually gamblers are given winnings to beginners to continue carrying out their activities in gambling. If they can't control themselves then the gambler can become bolder in betting in the hope of being able to win bigger, as a gambler you must be aware that winning is something that is difficult to achieve. Beginner gamblers must first learn about the risks of gambling. If they are stuck on their first win, the longer they will find it difficult to control themselves and risk losing more money.

For those who chase victory without seeing the risk of losing, they will become increasingly trapped in gambling and gambling itself will control the person mind and worse, it can cause gambling addiction because usually people like this find it difficult to control themselves, especially for beginners who have not yet experienced it victory.

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December 13, 2023, 09:56:07 AM
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It is important for novice gamblers who want to enter the world of gambling to pay close attention, that losing and winning are the results of gambling, so like it or not, novice gamblers must be ready to accept this, and not only that. the most important thing is how we can control ourselves when we are in the casino. , and try to resist the temptation of every trick you see. Maybe that way, every gambler, both experienced and new, will minimize losing a lot of money.

For novice gamblers who only want to chase wins and don't see defeat in sight, this is very difficult to do and will likely result in losing a lot of money quickly.
You are much on point, gambling is not what you just engage in if you do not have the necessary idea, in this case, there is nothing that will help you unless you go back to learning, practice what you learned and get to be betting with the mindset of being responsible. Other than this, the gambler would go astray from a good gambling style and will definitely lose in the end, there has never been an exception to this. Again, winning and losing are real in gambling but I like the fact that every gambler should zero their minds on them, and if you think of winning too much, you get to lose and get too emotional to lose more. Also, if you get to think about losing too much, you get to be afraid and lose more still. For these, zeroing our minds will go a long way as a neutral mind with adequate skills is better because all that matters after all is for gamblers to have a bold mind, good expertise in doing it and make sure they have the money they can gamble with, I mean such that will be without hurting them when they lose.

This will help their emotions and allow what they know about gambling to be effectively utilized without emotions altering it. And no matter the results of their first bet, they should not panic as this often determines the results of the subsequent bets in most cases. This calls for gamblers to have their actual plans even before starting at all, and never bet the games that will exhaust their money at once regardless of what the assurance is or what the outcome could be.

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December 13, 2023, 03:29:33 PM
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It is important for novice gamblers who want to enter the world of gambling to pay close attention, that losing and winning are the results of gambling, so like it or not, novice gamblers must be ready to accept this, and not only that. the most important thing is how we can control ourselves when we are in the casino. , and try to resist the temptation of every trick you see. Maybe that way, every gambler, both experienced and new, will minimize losing a lot of money.

For novice gamblers who only want to chase wins and don't see defeat in sight, this is very difficult to do and will likely result in losing a lot of money quickly.
You are much on point, gambling is not what you just engage in if you do not have the necessary idea, in this case, there is nothing that will help you unless you go back to learning, practice what you learned and get to be betting with the mindset of being responsible. Other than this, the gambler would go astray from a good gambling style and will definitely lose in the end, there has never been an exception to this. Again, winning and losing are real in gambling but I like the fact that every gambler should zero their minds on them, and if you think of winning too much, you get to lose and get too emotional to lose more. Also, if you get to think about losing too much, you get to be afraid and lose more still. For these, zeroing our minds will go a long way as a neutral mind with adequate skills is better because all that matters after all is for gamblers to have a bold mind, good expertise in doing it and make sure they have the money they can gamble with, I mean such that will be without hurting them when they lose.

This will help their emotions and allow what they know about gambling to be effectively utilized without emotions altering it. And no matter the results of their first bet, they should not panic as this often determines the results of the subsequent bets in most cases. This calls for gamblers to have their actual plans even before starting at all, and never bet the games that will exhaust their money at once regardless of what the assurance is or what the outcome could be.
Lets analyze your responsible gambling approach, which is excellent. The risky and unpredictable game of gambling is sometimes promoted as a quick way to get rich. Its drawbacks must be acknowledged. Theories like "zeroing our minds" on results are sound but difficult to implement. Emotions are hard to control, especially in stressful situations like gambling.

This theory suggests that gambling's unpredictability might cause considerable losses even with the best training and neutral mindset. Gamblers of all skill and caution regularly lose due to the unpredictability of gambling. The need of viewing gambling as enjoyment with financial hazards rather than a solid income source is highlighted.

Although education and responsibility are important, they cant eliminate gambling's risks. Any gambling discussion should emphasize prudence and awareness over misplaced optimism.

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First time win or lose never has anything to do with gambling addict. The mindset one have for gambling is the major cause of being an addict. Immediately one start purchasing is lost or believing you can become a billionaire through gambling within second, then problem has started already.
The first time you win may not make a person addicted to gambling, but in fact, there are signs that he is starting to feel addicted to gambling. If he decides to return to gambling a few days later, the signs will get bigger and make him a gambling addict.

A person's mindset must be maintained so that they don't think that gambling can give them win. They must be able to understand that gambling is just entertainment. That way, they will not have to continue gambling, whatever the result. Gambling might make someone a billionaire but that's only for a lucky few.

And people who can win the first time should not think that they can win again another day. Otherwise, they will regret it because next time, there is no guarantee they can win. So it's better to be careful when gambling and only use money that you can afford.

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December 13, 2023, 04:51:52 PM
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The reason people first try gambling is because they heard that gambling is the best way to make money, maybe there will be a few wins at the beginning but in the end all they often get is defeat, gambling is something that really makes people addicted, those who can't resist themselves to gamble, it will only make them worse off in their gambling, there have been many cases where gamblers were given a win at the start but ended up going bankrupt due to running out of capital and debts that had accumulated due to gambling.
I do not think that it's the "best" way of making money, but many thing it is the "easiest" way of making money. That has always been the issue and I think it will continue to be issue on the long run as well. I get that you are not going to end up with anything that is special, you are not going to end up with anything that will gain you any attention neither, but if you keep doing what you do then you are going to end up with a good result one way or another.

We are talking about easiest as in if you gamble once and put it all in and put it at a risky stuff, like 1% chance to win then you are going to end up winning a HUGE return if you win, but the most likely outcome (literally 99% of the time) you will lose it all. So while it looks like the easiest way of making money, it's also the easiest way to lose money as well and majority of the people do end up losing money very quickly and they lose even more trying to recover from that at the same time.

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Winning and losing are normal things, but the most important thing is not to get caught up in winning for the first time because usually gamblers are given winnings to beginners to continue carrying out their activities in gambling. If they can't control themselves then the gambler can become bolder in betting in the hope of being able to win bigger, as a gambler you must be aware that winning is something that is difficult to achieve. Beginner gamblers must first learn about the risks of gambling. If they are stuck on their first win, the longer they will find it difficult to control themselves and risk losing more money.

And in fact it is a trick in casinos, various kinds of games are put out by bookies with the aim of attracting the attention of gamblers, and if the gambler is weak in his mastery then of course he will be easily tempted or trapped in the trick. . If they are trapped too deep it will be difficult to get out and of course they will often experience defeat and lose a lot of money.




This will help their emotions and allow what they know about gambling to be effectively utilized without emotions altering it. And no matter the results of their first bet, they should not panic as this often determines the results of the subsequent bets in most cases. This calls for gamblers to have their actual plans even before starting at all, and never bet the games that will exhaust their money at once regardless of what the assurance is or what the outcome could be.

In other words, emotions will change when a person has had an experience that is very valuable for him, then he will be aware of what behavior he should carry out after having that experience, whether he is still emotional but just wasting his energy and thoughts or learning to suppress it. emotions so that they are not too fatal and try to improve them to be even better in the future and apart from that, self-awareness is also needed to perfect this behavior, if there is no self-awareness it will be in vain and the results will not match our expectations.

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December 14, 2023, 01:56:43 AM
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Yes it's not true and that people shouldn't believe in this trap for the reason why this trap looks like it's true is because a lot of people when they win, they tend to not think straight and so they end up having to do stupid stuff like not doing the same strategy that they created to win some might say it's beginner's luck but let me tell you, that what I've just mentioned about first game wins that's making it look like a trap.

We are talking about easiest as in if you gamble once and put it all in and put it at a risky stuff, like 1% chance to win then you are going to end up winning a HUGE return if you win, but the most likely outcome (literally 99% of the time) you will lose it all. So while it looks like the easiest way of making money, it's also the easiest way to lose money as well and majority of the people do end up losing money very quickly and they lose even more trying to recover from that at the same time.
That's why it's a trap even though it's just a psychological phenomenon that people have believed to be a true and real. I find it weird that people are willing to risk all their money for this one chance even though I know it's a gamble, I do think that there should be some form of control or bankroll management so you can make the most out of gambling experience and at the same time don't make it easy for the casino to get all of your money.



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December 14, 2023, 02:58:44 AM
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It all depends on the individual person, as a result of someone being addicted to gambling because they cannot control their desire to play. Someone can be addicted to gambling at first because they have experienced winning. Regardless of the first win or after several losses, but as a result of feeling that the win is still not big enough, he will continue to play to achieve a bigger win than he has ever won.
What gamblers often experience when they want to get a bigger win is that they lose their previously won win. When in this situation, the thinking of gambling addicts starts to become active, if at first they can win, of course they can win again. The result of this thinking makes it increasingly difficult for a person to control their emotions and becomes more addicted to wanting to win.

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If a gambler gets lucky at the very beginning of a gambling game, it is difficult to stop him. After the initial profit he will feel that the next steps will only bring him profit and he will try to gamble with more money thinking this. Whenever he tries to gamble with more money later, if his luck doesn't help him, he can lose his money. In the beginning, without being so greedy or in such a hurry, he should try to learn, try to understand and try to be patient. If a person loses money in the beginning of gambling, he will think several times before taking the next gamble whether the next gamble is right for him, but if he wins in the first gamble, he will be restless thinking when to take the next gamble. Gamblers in the new state need to be very careful and control their greed to avoid huge losses.

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     -   If they won gambling, that means he got lucky. I couldn't say that this is a winning trap; maybe it depends on the gambler who won and how he treats it. Because, in my experience, it was not a trap for me.

Why are you OP? Did you say it was a trap for you because you became addicted to gambling? It really depends on the individual gambler if you allow it to be a trap for you, right? I have been gambling for a long time, but I have never become addicted to it. So, the first time I won, gambling was not a trap for me.

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December 14, 2023, 06:40:40 AM
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I don't think casinos offer better chances at winning at first. If that was the case it could be exploited easily.
If someone wants to be certain that his rolls are fair and worries too much of things like this, then he can gamble on probably fair casino games.

I think the more realistic issue with luring in players is how easy it is to win on no-stake rolls and fun token rolls. In non provably fair games this can be a real issue.
It's what you'd call a beginner's luck. Yes there's no casinos that offer that but I'm sure there's some casino out there that's offering that kind of first win reward but I don't think that they're that eager to give you the win, maybe if it's your first win they will give you some sort of bonus. That's not really an illegal thing to do though, the way they lure is unfortunately within the legal bounds of the law so they're not doing anything wrong even if we want to make them look bad for it, they're still doing what any advertisers in the world of business do, attract customer by any means necessary. I mean how come we have not complained about the appearance of a quarter pounder on TV and then comparing it to when we finally order it? That's deceiving too right?

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December 14, 2023, 07:02:03 AM
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The first win of a new gamble is like a trap from him to enter into gambling well. And if they loss they would lose interest to continue but will be willing to try their luck but if they win then they would be going there to win and not try their luck game again. The first lucky games is a motivation to new gamblers. And the funniest thing is that when they win at first and loss at second they would like to play continuously for having the hope that they are going to win their loss and that is the beginning of gambling addiction. And as I said earlier if one wants to enjoy gambling then play it for fun and not having the mindset to earn from it because if you put your mind on that then when you loss and you will be disappointed.

Most gamblers enter the world of gambling in this way, first they are offered a winning streak and then after they get carried away with the game they start consistently making deposits to be able to chase more money. But I don't want to be a hypocrite, because I used to be like that too. It is very difficult to be able to remove the perception of money from your gambling and just have fun at it, especially if you are a beginner at gambling. Only when you are experienced and learn from your mistakes can you have a good mindset in gambling.

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December 14, 2023, 07:34:34 AM
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     -   If they won gambling, that means he got lucky. I couldn't say that this is a winning trap; maybe it depends on the gambler who won and how he treats it. Because, in my experience, it was not a trap for me.

Why are you OP? Did you say it was a trap for you because you became addicted to gambling? It really depends on the individual gambler if you allow it to be a trap for you, right? I have been gambling for a long time, but I have never become addicted to it. So, the first time I won, gambling was not a trap for me.
Yes, sometimes it is a fact that when you create a new account or become a new user you will usually be given a win for the first time, what OP means is that it is not a trap if I usually say that it is like a machine reading the character of a player's behavior, but I don't mean to accuse all casinos of doing that and controlling the machine. them, indeed sometimes I often try to play at several casinos, it's always like that, if I continue playing it means I'm a greedy person and the machine knows how to beat me.

But for smart people, maybe when they get their first win, they immediately withdraw it and then leave, look for a new site that has a reputation so that it will be safe to play again using a new account there, but that's just my impression because everyone has different views, as you said. Also, the issue of addiction comes back to each individual and not to the intended trap. for me it is a choice that must be chosen when winning the first time, continue or stop.  Grin

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December 14, 2023, 07:50:09 AM
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     -   If they won gambling, that means he got lucky. I couldn't say that this is a winning trap; maybe it depends on the gambler who won and how he treats it. Because, in my experience, it was not a trap for me.

Why are you OP? Did you say it was a trap for you because you became addicted to gambling? It really depends on the individual gambler if you allow it to be a trap for you, right? I have been gambling for a long time, but I have never become addicted to it. So, the first time I won, gambling was not a trap for me.
Yes, sometimes it is a fact that when you create a new account or become a new user you will usually be given a win for the first time, what OP means is that it is not a trap if I usually say that it is like a machine reading the character of a player's behavior, but I don't mean to accuse all casinos of doing that and controlling the machine. them, indeed sometimes I often try to play at several casinos, it's always like that, if I continue playing it means I'm a greedy person and the machine knows how to beat me.

But for smart people, maybe when they get their first win, they immediately withdraw it and then leave, look for a new site that has a reputation so that it will be safe to play again using a new account there, but that's just my impression because everyone has different views, as you said. Also, the issue of addiction comes back to each individual and not to the intended trap. for me it is a choice that must be chosen when winning the first time, continue or stop.  Grin

I see your point, and it was also right were I agreed on what you just said. Actually, we gamblers have our own interpretation of how to manage a casino where we will gamble. There are only two types of gamblers. The responsible gambler and the greedy gambler.

Now, it is up to us to choose which of these two we want when we play gambling here in crypto gambling. So what you are saying is true and right, my friend. That's why we should not just be gamblers, but instead we should also have hidden intelligence as players in a casino.

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December 14, 2023, 08:55:36 AM
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It all depends on the individual person, as a result of someone being addicted to gambling because they cannot control their desire to play. Someone can be addicted to gambling at first because they have experienced winning. Regardless of the first win or after several losses, but as a result of feeling that the win is still not big enough, he will continue to play to achieve a bigger win than he has ever won.
What gamblers often experience when they want to get a bigger win is that they lose their previously won win. When in this situation, the thinking of gambling addicts starts to become active, if at first they can win, of course they can win again. The result of this thinking makes it increasingly difficult for a person to control their emotions and becomes more addicted to wanting to win.
Maybe. This kind of thing always depends on how mentally prepared a person is or if he is in dire need of money.
Most gambling addicts came from the poor section and when you think of it, it's scary. Given that a trap was set to make him win the first time, it will depend on what his next move will be. He can run away and just enjoy the profits or he could give it one more try to try and increase the profits. But we all know that greediness is not a good thing because the gambling site will always try to win it back no matter what. Forget RNG, or Provably fair because those things do not really exist in my opinion. Try betting 10k - 20k bets and you will see how cruel it can be. IMO, there's a system in which all our winnings are listed or everything is already set for us to lose.
The only way to take advantage of a profit is when you withdraw, playing more will end up with our profits taken back and even the capital that we trying to protect.

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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

The truth of the matter is that, the zeal to continue gambling after a winning or loss varies from one individual to the other, and as such, the results of such variations can never always be truly trusted alone as the determining factor to knowing who gets addicted in gambling in a long run or not. However, other factors which makes people get addicted to gambling is the environment or peer group a person finds his or herself, as it plays a major role more than first winning.

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The reason people first try gambling is because they heard that gambling is the best way to make money, maybe there will be a few wins at the beginning but in the end all they often get is defeat, gambling is something that really makes people addicted, those who can't resist themselves to gamble, it will only make them worse off in their gambling, there have been many cases where gamblers were given a win at the start but ended up going bankrupt due to running out of capital and debts that had accumulated due to gambling.
I do not think that it's the "best" way of making money, but many thing it is the "easiest" way of making money. That has always been the issue and I think it will continue to be issue on the long run as well. I get that you are not going to end up with anything that is special, you are not going to end up with anything that will gain you any attention neither, but if you keep doing what you do then you are going to end up with a good result one way or another.

We are talking about easiest as in if you gamble once and put it all in and put it at a risky stuff, like 1% chance to win then you are going to end up winning a HUGE return if you win, but the most likely outcome (literally 99% of the time) you will lose it all. So while it looks like the easiest way of making money, it's also the easiest way to lose money as well and majority of the people do end up losing money very quickly and they lose even more trying to recover from that at the same time.
"That's the easiest way to make money," is a common saying. But let's flip that coin and see its other side. The house always wins, doesn't it? You've got it exactly right: the deck is stacked against us. It's alluring to have a 1% chance of striking it rich, but what about the 99% probability of leaving empty-handed? It's a classic risk vs reward situation where the risk frequently wears a mask of invisibility.

Aren't we funny animals, humans? We become addicted to the surge of adrenaline that comes from "almost winning." Our big win dream turns into a stick-on carrot. The problem is that the pursuit is never-ending. It's not just about losing money, as you pointed out, but also about losing more in an aimless attempt to make up for losses. Not only does the money suffer in this high-stakes game, but the spirit also suffers. And that's the actual risk, my friend.

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December 14, 2023, 09:46:23 AM
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     -   If they won gambling, that means he got lucky. I couldn't say that this is a winning trap; maybe it depends on the gambler who won and how he treats it. Because, in my experience, it was not a trap for me.
Gamblers are trapped in their thoughts so that when the gambler starts to lose, they think that the casino has trapped them, but it's not, because the choice is in the gambler's hands to keep playing or stop even though the results are quite good at the beginning of his introduction to gambling.
I never feel trapped by my initial winnings at gambling but often end up losing all my money in online casinos because it's hard to stop on that day, like yesterday when playing a slot that I had just played for the first time and a few rounds gave me a big win and decided to stop playing but just persisted just an hour or two and finally return to the game and lose everything, so it's not the casino that traps us but our minds.

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December 14, 2023, 07:26:00 PM
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There are literally places that makes people win their first ever game, and gives them a good return, it's designed that way, but they do put a rollover in there, so that means you end up gambling and winning so you think you are going to keep winning and you lose until you could withdraw. It makes people see that there is a possibility of winning and keep doing it more, when you have very little money left they still make you win, so that you do not end up leaving completely but then you eventually lose, that win streak in the middle is what makes you think it's possible.

So all in all, there are many places that try to scam people and should be something that we all care about and be worried about as well, these people do not directly steal your money, they end up making it look like you have lost that money during the regular period and not really look at it like you have done something wrong, and that's why many people do not realize they are getting scammed.

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December 14, 2023, 08:17:10 PM
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Winning and losing are normal things, but the most important thing is not to get caught up in winning for the first time because usually gamblers are given winnings to beginners to continue carrying out their activities in gambling. If they can't control themselves then the gambler can become bolder in betting in the hope of being able to win bigger, as a gambler you must be aware that winning is something that is difficult to achieve. Beginner gamblers must first learn about the risks of gambling. If they are stuck on their first win, the longer they will find it difficult to control themselves and risk losing more money.

And in fact it is a trick in casinos, various kinds of games are put out by bookies with the aim of attracting the attention of gamblers, and if the gambler is weak in his mastery then of course he will be easily tempted or trapped in the trick. . If they are trapped too deep it will be difficult to get out and of course they will often experience defeat and lose a lot of money.




This will help their emotions and allow what they know about gambling to be effectively utilized without emotions altering it. And no matter the results of their first bet, they should not panic as this often determines the results of the subsequent bets in most cases. This calls for gamblers to have their actual plans even before starting at all, and never bet the games that will exhaust their money at once regardless of what the assurance is or what the outcome could be.

In other words, emotions will change when a person has had an experience that is very valuable for him, then he will be aware of what behavior he should carry out after having that experience, whether he is still emotional but just wasting his energy and thoughts or learning to suppress it. emotions so that they are not too fatal and try to improve them to be even better in the future and apart from that, self-awareness is also needed to perfect this behavior, if there is no self-awareness it will be in vain and the results will not match our expectations.
They would really be doing all sorts of things on just to make everything look interesting and fancy as much as possible because this would really be their primary goals of these platforms or companies on which their
main goal is to have more revenue out of those gamblers who are really that becoming impulsive basing up on the things that they've been experiencing on which it is really that true that it is really that a some sort of trap
on which if you wont really be that making yourself that careful then you are most likely you would really be putting up yourself on such danger on spending up more and this is something that you should really be wary and be careful because once you do get yourself blinded by greed then this is where mistakes would really be happening.

First win trap? If you are a person who is really that emotionally impulsive then you would really be finding out yourself to be on a situation or condition on which you might really be that
ending up miserable or devastated when it comes to finances just because you do make out some actions on which it doesnt really supposed to be that on that way.
Some people do have  that kind of control towards their actions and there are ones who do really make some toleration on the things that they do believe
or trying to push out to work.

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December 14, 2023, 08:39:05 PM
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     -   If they won gambling, that means he got lucky. I couldn't say that this is a winning trap; maybe it depends on the gambler who won and how he treats it. Because, in my experience, it was not a trap for me.
Gamblers are trapped in their thoughts so that when the gambler starts to lose, they think that the casino has trapped them, but it's not, because the choice is in the gambler's hands to keep playing or stop even though the results are quite good at the beginning of his introduction to gambling.
I never feel trapped by my initial winnings at gambling but often end up losing all my money in online casinos because it's hard to stop on that day, like yesterday when playing a slot that I had just played for the first time and a few rounds gave me a big win and decided to stop playing but just persisted just an hour or two and finally return to the game and lose everything, so it's not the casino that traps us but our minds.

For the problem of traps, it seems that it is more specialized only for those who have divergent goals and perspectives on gambling, or that means coming with goals and intentions that are not recommended. Of course, for the problem of "traps" it will really come back to someone when they get a win in the session they are doing, but usually gamblers especially those who come with the intention of earning always can't help but feel all the excessive feelings that are in their minds, the sensation they feel in such a situation is truly extraordinary and it seems to be able to cover all the disappointments of losing in the previous few sessions.

Instead of thinking that it was a break-even point that they managed to reach and after that quit by going home with the winnings but what is more likely and usually happens is like what you experienced, assuming that it is a good opportunity to make more is the idea that arises or comes out of your head when such situations come and that assumption comes and controls your mind unconsciously, that's what makes it difficult for you to stop and eventually even suffer defeat by losing all the money you have won earlier. Of course it is not the casino that traps you but your hopes and expectations are too high that make you disappointed and regretful, I think this is the initial scenario before you enter the addiction.

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December 15, 2023, 03:35:06 AM
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I think whether a newcomer wins or loses in gambling doesn't significantly impact whether they continue and potentially develop an addiction. Whether they win or lose, there's a rationale to keep playing. If they win, they might see it as a money-making opportunity, so why not continue? At worst, they've lost the money they just won. If they lose, they might continue to try to recover their losses. Don't you agree that hardly anyone walks away after a loss without that psychological drive to try to make up for it?

The casinos often let new players win in the initial rounds; it's a strategy to attract and hook new players. Once you step into the game, you're drawn in, and addiction can happen at any time. The key is how you control your gambling, not whether you win or lose the first time.

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Suppose in a gambling game that if someone wins the first time it creates a trap for gamblers who are confident of winning the next time. Gamblers should keep in mind that gambling takes luck and it is not always easy to win in gaming. It is better not to win but the addiction to winning is bad. Not all gambling strategies will work in their favor. That's why it will be easier to avoid the trap if you stop excessive gambling.
When we talk about gambling games, there are no working *STRATEGIES* that can make someone win or save them from excessive losses apart from the strategy of stopping when the time is right. Gambling games and strategies are two contradicting things, you can't expect to get an upper hand in a gambling game by using a certain strategy when you already know that the outcome will be based on your luck and your applied strategy cannot change that.

So, strategies are a recipe for disaster, those who apply strategies like the martingale or anything to recover the losses or win more will end up losing everything eventually because the house will always have an edge over the gambler and there is no way one can win over the house in a gambling game.

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I believe that we call this as the "cycle of gambling" where a gambler is stuck on this endless loop of winning/losing.

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In order to at least pacify this problem, the recommended solution here is to allocate a certain budget whenever a person gambles. For example, if you plan on gambling today, limit your time by bringing a specific amount of budget to avoid any kind of over-expenditure that can surely prevent you from experiencing a losing streak.

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December 15, 2023, 04:00:41 PM
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I believe that we call this as the "cycle of gambling" where a gambler is stuck on this endless loop of winning/losing.

When a gambler wins, their initial reaction is to gamble again and to try if their luck would continue. Unfortunately when they lose a game, also, their initial reaction is to recover such loss by gambling again their winnings. This creates an endless cycle of win/lose depending on the outcome if the gambler fails to control the urge to play.

In order to at least pacify this problem, the recommended solution here is to allocate a certain budget whenever a person gambles. For example, if you plan on gambling today, limit your time by bringing a specific amount of budget to avoid any kind of over-expenditure that can surely prevent you from experiencing a losing streak.

Yes, limiting the budget and time of gambling is really necessary and it is very important to minimize all unwanted things such as maybe preventing us from running out of money too much just because of curiosity and making re-deposits, but on the other hand unfortunately not all gamblers can do that and maybe it is one of the things that is very difficult to do or apply by gamblers, the fact is that even though they have implemented such planning for a safer approach in fact it cannot be denied that there will always be times when they break it.

Of course, one of the reasons why they assume to put money back even after winning is because of the explosion of endorphins that fill all parts of the brain which indirectly encourages them to try again to be able to get the same sensation with a larger amount of winnings, will it happen? No, as you said that most gamblers will end up tragically if they put excessive actions is a fact and is common. Likewise with losing, it's simply like this "winning is addictive and losing is curious" that makes them greedy and unable to accept the risks that occur.

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December 15, 2023, 04:33:35 PM
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Well, I think in every experience of a person whenever they win something or even receive a prize, they would eventually retry it as they would expect it to happen twice. What's more when it comes to gambling especially when it involves money, let's be honest people are greedy and once they have tasted the win, they desire more. Still, we all know what are the possible outcomes if you continue gambling which favors the casino itself, since it's a 50/50 situation which is win and lose, there is also a chance that the person would keep continuing gambling and some would make a profit and go home with extra money. The only solution for you to stop this is to know your limit and have a target value for you to stop gambling.

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December 15, 2023, 04:58:05 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

This is probably one of the most important tips for those who are interested in gambling. What I mean is to always remember that gambling is a way to make money and that you should use money that you can afford to lose. Because of this, many problems have arisen and will continue to arise for people. They use money they can't afford to lose to make money.
I think that in general it doesn’t matter if a person wins money for the first time or loses it, if he can’t control himself then it’s better not to play at all

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Often the casino gives a win the first time, so that a person believes in his strength and continue to play further, not too worried about the size of bets and subsequent losses. It is best to take the winnings and stop playing for a while to listen to your inner voice and realize whether it is worth continuing. There is no need to hurry
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December 15, 2023, 05:12:20 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

This is probably one of the most important tips for those who are interested in gambling. What I mean is to always remember that gambling is a way to make money and that you should use money that you can afford to lose. Because of this, many problems have arisen and will continue to arise for people. They use money they can't afford to lose to make money.
I think that in general it doesn’t matter if a person wins money for the first time or loses it, if he can’t control himself then it’s better not to play at all
Really very very basic but it turns out that tons of people do really mess up their lives because they cant really just follow this simple rules or simple ideas on how gambling should be treated up.
There are ones who could be able to take such control, there are ones who would really be that having no care at all and this is why they would really be falling out into a condition on which they would really be having that kind of impression that gambling could make them rich until the time comes that they would mess up and this is where regrets and realizations would happen.
Lets try our very best on not to end up with this kind of miserable situation because if you do really have this kind of approach and beliefs in mind then it would really be just making you desperate.

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So, strategies are a recipe for disaster, those who apply strategies like the martingale or anything to recover the losses or win more will end up losing everything eventually because the house will always have an edge over the gambler and there is no way one can win over the house in a gambling game.
It depends on the games because if you talking about strategy in line with football games you will have a high tendency to win your bet easily if you know the analysis of the clubs and what their performance has been in the last couple of games, this is what makes the difference at most times, but yes based on in house games, there may not be workable strategy unless for some few skills-based games and skills-luck based games in few games also.
But with football,  you have the upper hand to speculate and analyze the market at whatever time, many time we select our winning teams based on their performance and statistic, like in the various leagues, we have all the player's information and also the clubs' positions so this information helps us to make better-informed decisions when selecting our games.

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If you gamble first and win then you will save your mental energy and then you will gamble again and thus you will eventually become a daily gambler. We know it's not dangerous at first but when you go to the hopper again and again then it becomes reality. My younger brother is betting online and i searched his ID where most of the winning stories were but i fell behind him. On the other hand winning or losing the first time is not what makes them addictive but when you win fast the first time you make it addictiv.

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December 15, 2023, 06:42:15 PM
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If you gamble first and win then you will save your mental energy and then you will gamble again and thus you will eventually become a daily gambler. We know it's not dangerous at first but when you go to the hopper again and again then it becomes reality. My younger brother is betting online and i searched his ID where most of the winning stories were but i fell behind him. On the other hand winning or losing the first time is not what makes them addictive but when you win fast the first time you make it addictiv.
I would say this is not entirely accurate, a first timer in gambling and the luckily scoffing out a win are not those that get addicted, but I will say addiction is caused on the kind of mindset you set out to it. One thing that gets one addicted to gambling is when you don’t treat it as a game but a platform where you must get rich, people look at other people’s winning story and then go into gambling from one game to another and That’s how the addiction goes on. Although some first timers are lure in by the first game but not all of them

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December 15, 2023, 06:46:23 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

This is probably one of the most important tips for those who are interested in gambling. What I mean is to always remember that gambling is a way to make money and that you should use money that you can afford to lose. Because of this, many problems have arisen and will continue to arise for people. They use money they can't afford to lose to make money.
I think that in general it doesn’t matter if a person wins money for the first time or loses it, if he can’t control himself then it’s better not to play at all
Really very very basic but it turns out that tons of people do really mess up their lives because they cant really just follow this simple rules or simple ideas on how gambling should be treated up.
There are ones who could be able to take such control, there are ones who would really be that having no care at all and this is why they would really be falling out into a condition on which they would really be having that kind of impression that gambling could make them rich until the time comes that they would mess up and this is where regrets and realizations would happen.
Lets try our very best on not to end up with this kind of miserable situation because if you do really have this kind of approach and beliefs in mind then it would really be just making you desperate.
If you are someone whose really that mindful and really that responsible on dealing up with gambling then you wont really be finding yourself on such trouble. People do usually ending up on a disaster
if they would really be starting on creating or molding those kind of impressions and beliefs that they could make themselves rich with gambling.Yes, there's a probability but it is really that close to impossible
because of house edge and other factors on which it would really be putting up gambler on a huge disadvantage.

This is why tons of people who do destroy out their lives with gambling because of having those kind of hopes on which this is something that need to get rid of with.
You cant make yourself that get easily rich with gambling because it would really be requiring that extreme luck factor on which it could make things possible.
Important thing is that you wont really be trying out to chase on being lucky and just simply play the game and enjoy it.

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December 15, 2023, 06:54:34 PM
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If you gamble first and win then you will save your mental energy and then you will gamble again and thus you will eventually become a daily gambler. We know it's not dangerous at first but when you go to the hopper again and again then it becomes reality. My younger brother is betting online and i searched his ID where most of the winning stories were but i fell behind him. On the other hand winning or losing the first time is not what makes them addictive but when you win fast the first time you make it addictiv.
I would say this is not entirely accurate, a first timer in gambling and the luckily scoffing out a win are not those that get addicted, but I will say addiction is caused on the kind of mindset you set out to it. One thing that gets one addicted to gambling is when you don’t treat it as a game but a platform where you must get rich, people look at other people’s winning story and then go into gambling from one game to another and That’s how the addiction goes on. Although some first timers are lure in by the first game but not all of them
You will not be addicted if you will not encounter a win first even though you are thinking gambling as platform to get rich because you will be easily discouraged if you lose frequently in the beginning without experiencing the taste of winning.

I myself won’t be gambling for a long time if I don’t have good experience on gambling when I was a newbie. I’m not saying that first game win is a trap but the mindset of getting an early win will give hope to gambler to continue playing because they will be optimistic to win more in the future.

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December 15, 2023, 07:10:08 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.
We all know that gambling is all about luck and if you don't have luck I don't think you can win a gambling but from my understanding I'm seeing that gambling is something when you will win you won't know, so someone can gamble for the first time and win and it's base on the person's luck and same time someone can also gamble for the first time and lose and if he or she tries again and again the person will lose again it depends on the person's luck, so in all gambling is not something you can win and you boasts for it, basically a gambling is a game of opportunity and luck

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December 15, 2023, 10:35:06 PM
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We all know that gambling is all about luck and if you don't have luck I don't think you can win a gambling but from my understanding I'm seeing that gambling is something when you will win you won't know, so someone can gamble for the first time and win and it's base on the person's luck and same time someone can also gamble for the first time and lose and if he or she tries again and again the person will lose again it depends on the person's luck, so in all gambling is not something you can win and you boasts for it, basically a gambling is a game of opportunity and luck
You are correct. Gambling is played on luck. It was always about luck. But we shouldn't say that all the time because there are many fake gambling sites around the internet. These fake gambling site lures the gamblers by rigging the game the first couple of times and after some wins when he builds up enough confident that he can win, that's when the real tricks begins. He ends up losing everything.
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December 15, 2023, 10:56:37 PM
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Beginner's luck, first win trap, they're all the same heuristic fooling people into thinking the odds are with them when it can't be any farther from the truth. There are casinos out there who keeps a profile of every gambler and they may throw a few chickpeas to them in their first game to just entice them to play and spend more. Some casinos just give out coincidental wins to keep either that losing person going, or to keep that first-timer in the game by fooling them into thinking the house is fair.

You must know that every casino has they own set of kinks to earning their money, but none of them would play the 50/50 game with you. If you won first time then good job, but don't expect the subsequent games to be as lucky as that first one.

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December 15, 2023, 11:12:11 PM
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You are correct. Gambling is played on luck. It was always about luck. But we shouldn't say that all the time because there are many fake gambling sites around the internet. These fake gambling site lures the gamblers by rigging the game the first couple of times and after some wins when he builds up enough confident that he can win, that's when the real tricks begins. He ends up losing everything.
Not all gambling games are purely based on the luck, some games need specific skills. However, we can't deny that luck has a big role in most gambling games. Regarding the fraudulence, it doesn't happen in fake gambling sites but it is also possible to happen in real gambling sites. So, we must be careful to choose gambling sites, check the popularity and track-record of the gambling sites!! Anyway, if you are difficult to win in gambling games, it is not always caused by the system on the gambling sites. You also need to evaluate how your knowledge and experience!!

You must know that every casino has they own set of kinks to earning their money, but none of them would play the 50/50 game with you. If you won first time then good job, but don't expect the subsequent games to be as lucky as that first one.
Yep. The house always wins, that's why there are many gambling sites. If they are defeated by gamblers, there will be no many gambling sites. So, it is true that we don't expect much to win again and again, although we already proved that we can win 1 time.


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December 15, 2023, 11:15:39 PM
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First off I think gamblers needs to understand that gambling is a two way thing, you either win or you lose but you are meant to expect either a positive or a negative result depending on your luck at the moment. Personally I think first time win is one of the biggest traps in gambling for a beginner who's trying out gambling this is because the win encourages the player to continue with a high hope of getting more profits which may turn him into becoming more interested to gamble more and more probably till he's left with nothing but losing on a first stake in gambling will demoralize a starter into not trying out again but it all takes the ability of the person to either choose to stop or continue.
Become addicted or addictive to gambling comes as a result of a continuous win or loss, for the win the person will keep playing to get more profit which eventually turns him and addict while for loss the person is focused on gambling to recover from his losses which turns him to be addicted too but in all gambling with an amount that won't affect the well being of a person is the best way to gamble.

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December 15, 2023, 11:20:22 PM
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I very rarely find people who have their first loss in gambling then they then chase that loss, because most people who start gambling they use the money they can lose and most if they lose the first time gambling they are indifferent to gambling.

Except for people who first win the first time gambling in their first moment of gambling and can get money 5 to 10 times the deposit they made, it will consider gambling to bring good luck in his life and certainly people who experience it will experience kecanuduan, because he will come again to try his luck in gambling next time, well that's where someone will lose money and can't lose his money until finally he chases defeat.

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December 15, 2023, 11:23:31 PM
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When we talk about gambling games, there are no working *STRATEGIES* that can make someone win or save them from excessive losses apart from the strategy of stopping when the time is right. Gambling games and strategies are two contradicting things, you can't expect to get an upper hand in a gambling game by using a certain strategy when you already know that the outcome will be based on your luck and your applied strategy cannot change that.

So, strategies are a recipe for disaster, those who apply strategies like the martingale or anything to recover the losses or win more will end up losing everything eventually because the house will always have an edge over the gambler and there is no way one can win over the house in a gambling game.

The gambler who use the strategy in the gambling site was engaged with the less win and most of the time no loss.If the gambler get less loss because of the their strategy is greater one.The random bet will give the gambler with the loss,So the strategy may save the gambler from the loss.If you became the master in the gambling strategy,then you can earn from the same strategy.The gambler should know when to stop the game and how to recover the loss money.If the gambler will have the more self confidence in his game,So the gambling site can’t win over such self confidence gamblers.The gambler also need to change their strategies if it not properly.

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December 15, 2023, 11:25:46 PM
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We all know that gambling is all about luck and if you don't have luck I don't think you can win a gambling but from my understanding I'm seeing that gambling is something when you will win you won't know, so someone can gamble for the first time and win and it's base on the person's luck and same time someone can also gamble for the first time and lose and if he or she tries again and again the person will lose again it depends on the person's luck, so in all gambling is not something you can win and you boasts for it, basically a gambling is a game of opportunity and luck
You are correct. Gambling is played on luck. It was always about luck. But we shouldn't say that all the time because there are many fake gambling sites around the internet. These fake gambling site lures the gamblers by rigging the game the first couple of times and after some wins when he builds up enough confident that he can win, that's when the real tricks begins. He ends up losing everything.
The fact is that gambling players are actually made like that. the point is to keep thinking about luck. if they win, they will think they are lucky. and if they are losing they are made to think they are unlucky, so that's when gamblers think that if they are unlucky now, the next try will be lucky. that's the cycle and will continue.

They never think about how much money has been spent to get the satisfaction that is said to be lucky. even though if the total between winning and losing, it will definitely be clear how much the difference is. and most of them experience losses.

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I very rarely find people who have their first loss in gambling then they then chase that loss, because most people who start gambling they use the money they can lose and most if they lose the first time gambling they are indifferent to gambling.

Except for people who first win the first time gambling in their first moment of gambling and can get money 5 to 10 times the deposit they made, it will consider gambling to bring good luck in his life and certainly people who experience it will experience kecanuduan, because he will come again to try his luck in gambling next time, well that's where someone will lose money and can't lose his money until finally he chases defeat.
This is true and we don't know whether this had been planned or just the coincidence. Most of the time people easily fall for it, because it was kind of trial and they find themselves successful. This further makes them experience massive loss. Most of the gamblers could've experienced it, and many could've lost big money for the same reason.

This happens with any game, I personally experienced it with Dice. I don't have much knowledge and I was just wagering, whatever chosen becomes a win. Finally I wasn't able to keep up the win. Maybe someone who have the better fund management skill could easily take a break and make it successful whereas the majority wager for big and loss everything.

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December 15, 2023, 11:35:00 PM
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I very rarely find people who have their first loss in gambling then they then chase that loss, because most people who start gambling they use the money they can lose and most if they lose the first time gambling they are indifferent to gambling.

Except for people who first win the first time gambling in their first moment of gambling and can get money 5 to 10 times the deposit they made, it will consider gambling to bring good luck in his life and certainly people who experience it will experience kecanuduan, because he will come again to try his luck in gambling next time, well that's where someone will lose money and can't lose his money until finally he chases defeat.
This is true and we don't know whether this had been planned or just the coincidence. Most of the time people easily fall for it, because it was kind of trial and they find themselves successful. This further makes them experience massive loss. Most of the gamblers could've experienced it, and many could've lost big money for the same reason.

This happens with any game, I personally experienced it with Dice. I don't have much knowledge and I was just wagering, whatever chosen becomes a win. Finally I wasn't able to keep up the win. Maybe someone who have the better fund management skill could easily take a break and make it successful whereas the majority wager for big and loss everything.

let us put it this way, a gambler for sure started somewhere and that we have different backgrounds on why we are in this realm. we have our own stories to tell why we are in this habit.

but even though we have our own stories, it depends on how you handle your gambling activities. as each player has their own reasons why they are getting hooked in this addictive game.

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You are correct. Gambling is played on luck. It was always about luck. But we shouldn't say that all the time because there are many fake gambling sites around the internet. These fake gambling site lures the gamblers by rigging the game the first couple of times and after some wins when he builds up enough confident that he can win, that's when the real tricks begins. He ends up losing everything.
Not all gambling games are purely based on the luck, some games need specific skills. However, we can't deny that luck has a big role in most gambling games. Regarding the fraudulence, it doesn't happen in fake gambling sites but it is also possible to happen in real gambling sites. So, we must be careful to choose gambling sites, check the popularity and track-record of the gambling sites!! Anyway, if you are difficult to win in gambling games, it is not always caused by the system on the gambling sites. You also need to evaluate how your knowledge and experience!!
There surely are gambling games, such as slot machines and certain forms of roulette, are just luck-driven, and There are others, like poker, blackjack and sport betting, involve a significant skill element. Gamblers can enhance their chances of winning in knowledge/skill-based gambling through tactical decisions and a deep understanding of the game dynamics. But of course, even knowledge/skill-based gambling have luck to play a role.

Fraudulence in gambling is common concern, and it extends to both online and offline platforms. While fake gambling sites are an obvious threat, reputable sites can fall prey to dishonest practices. Rigged games and unfair odds can occur anywhere that make the gamblers need to select trustworthy and established gambling sites. Beyond external factors, a player's success in gambling is also influenced by their knowledge and experience. A critical self-assessment of gambler's skills and knowledge is crucial for improving the chances of success.

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We all know that gambling is all about luck and if you don't have luck I don't think you can win a gambling but from my understanding I'm seeing that gambling is something when you will win you won't know, so someone can gamble for the first time and win and it's base on the person's luck and same time someone can also gamble for the first time and lose and if he or she tries again and again the person will lose again it depends on the person's luck, so in all gambling is not something you can win and you boasts for it, basically a gambling is a game of opportunity and luck
You are correct. Gambling is played on luck. It was always about luck. But we shouldn't say that all the time because there are many fake gambling sites around the internet. These fake gambling site lures the gamblers by rigging the game the first couple of times and after some wins when he builds up enough confident that he can win, that's when the real tricks begins. He ends up losing everything.

Gambling is not the only basis for whether you are lucky or not, you must have intelligence on how to play any gambling games, especially card games. As for the fake gambling sites yeah, it does really exist.

That's why we should always be careful and don't lose defense, we can search it online and check if the gambling site we entered is legit.

I also experienced one time an influencer who promoted this gambling site and then when I signed into that site, I had to use his/her referral code. And then I did it out of curiosity and excitement since the only amount that you need to cash into your account is low. I won in the first game but lost afterward. So I quit.
I did rely on my luck on that site, but I ran out of luck. Cheesy

 I think that it is common in gambling sites that they make you win the moment you play your first game, and that's part of their tricks and traps because of course you like the game and you'll be inspired if you win in the first game. but later on, when you lose you want to take back your winnings and that's when you start to get addicted to gambling.

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I don't think the first win is always going to be a trap or I wouldn't really consider that it's a trap to get you further involved, it's gambling and anyone can win and lose, so the casino doesn't mean that the first win is to trap you further.

All of this depends on the gambler's point of view, if indeed they address gambling as more of a pleasure activity (earning) then I think it is very possible that you are easily tempted by your first win and think excessively like thinking that "this is a good place to earn, I think it all comes back to one's point of view and understanding in terms of gambling especially about probability, if from the start they understand everything then I think they will remain fine, or that means they will not be easily tempted by something that looks like tempting.

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December 16, 2023, 11:41:51 AM
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I very rarely find people who have their first loss in gambling then they then chase that loss, because most people who start gambling they use the money they can lose and most if they lose the first time gambling they are indifferent to gambling.

Except for people who first win the first time gambling in their first moment of gambling and can get money 5 to 10 times the deposit they made, it will consider gambling to bring good luck in his life and certainly people who experience it will experience kecanuduan, because he will come again to try his luck in gambling next time, well that's where someone will lose money and can't lose his money until finally he chases defeat.
This is true and we don't know whether this had been planned or just the coincidence. Most of the time people easily fall for it, because it was kind of trial and they find themselves successful. This further makes them experience massive loss. Most of the gamblers could've experienced it, and many could've lost big money for the same reason.

This happens with any game, I personally experienced it with Dice. I don't have much knowledge and I was just wagering, whatever is chosen becomes a win. Finally, I wasn't able to keep up the win. Maybe someone who has better fund management skill could easily take a break and make it successful whereas the majority wager for big and lose everything.
Just continue to do what works best for you in the casino and nothing more or less, but as for me, a single win or a bunch of them will not stop me from betting again, it's all about my plan before entering the house or opening the betting platform. This goes to losses as well. I always have what I want to do preplanned and no initial wins and losses can alter it, and this is the mistake many make, they just play anyhow. This is also the reason why I do not bet with a huge sum when it comes to casinos, I make sure that I bet proportionately and very little which I do not go beyond for any reason. Another good thing about casinos so as for us to plan better is for us to know the games we are playing very well and not do the guesswork or always play at random. I often shun the games like dice most times because I know that it could be well rigged against me. By this, I must have tried my best to know the aspect I am good at and stick to it, and I must have known the ratio of my winning to losing in every bet as well. Going straight to my best games and playing them even as I manage my portfolio and have fun is the goal here, and not the fear of winning and start panicking to play more.

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December 16, 2023, 12:22:54 PM
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I think that it is common in gambling sites that they make you win the moment you play your first game, and that's part of their tricks and traps because of course you like the game and you'll be inspired if you win in the first game. but later on, when you lose you want to take back your winnings and that's when you start to get addicted to gambling.

Therefore, it is necessary to be consistent when playing gambling on a new site and winning the first game, it is best to withdraw all the money and then return it in a few days to try your luck again. Usually there are casinos that may read the player's character from the behavior of the way he gambles. The point is, every time you win in the first game, don't continue the game if you don't want something bad to happen in the end.

Whether it's a gambling addiction or losing more money because the bottom line is that we should never follow our desires when we get our first win at a new casino, it could be a trap or some kind of trick and it could also be your luck, so make sure to use techniques too The strategy I usually use is to immediately withdraw the money then leave, after a few days try to come back again to gamble there looking for new luck.  Wink

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December 16, 2023, 02:42:49 PM
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We all know that gambling is all about luck and if you don't have luck I don't think you can win a gambling but from my understanding I'm seeing that gambling is something when you will win you won't know, so someone can gamble for the first time and win and it's base on the person's luck and same time someone can also gamble for the first time and lose and if he or she tries again and again the person will lose again it depends on the person's luck, so in all gambling is not something you can win and you boasts for it, basically a gambling is a game of opportunity and luck
You are correct. Gambling is played on luck. It was always about luck. But we shouldn't say that all the time because there are many fake gambling sites around the internet. These fake gambling site lures the gamblers by rigging the game the first couple of times and after some wins when he builds up enough confident that he can win, that's when the real tricks begins. He ends up losing everything.

Gambling is not the only basis for whether you are lucky or not, you must have intelligence on how to play any gambling games, especially card games. As for the fake gambling sites yeah, it does really exist.

That's why we should always be careful and don't lose defense, we can search it online and check if the gambling site we entered is legit.

I also experienced one time an influencer who promoted this gambling site and then when I signed into that site, I had to use his/her referral code. And then I did it out of curiosity and excitement since the only amount that you need to cash into your account is low. I won in the first game but lost afterward. So I quit.
I did rely on my luck on that site, but I ran out of luck. Cheesy

 I think that it is common in gambling sites that they make you win the moment you play your first game, and that's part of their tricks and traps because of course you like the game and you'll be inspired if you win in the first game. but later on, when you lose you want to take back your winnings and that's when you start to get addicted to gambling.

Gambling is not just luck, but also the idea of competence. This combination is seductive and misleading. Card games' thin border between skill and luck must be considered when discussing intelligence. Probabilities prevail, and the house always wins. Your influencer and initial win experience illustrates how these platforms work. They generate a winning fantasy that releases dangerously addictive dopamine. The first win hooks you in by playing on the innate urge to duplicate success

You identified a frequent gambling strategy: the initial gain is a trap. Understanding human psychology is crucial. Our brains seek patterns and believe in winning streaks In gambling, these are generally well-crafted illusions that deceive. The loss-chasing cycle is harmful. Being aware of these methods helps us make informed decisions. Gambling should be approached cautiously and cognizant of its psychological dangers. Intelligence in playing the game and recognizing its emotional and financial effects is crucial

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December 16, 2023, 03:24:24 PM
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I don't think the first win is always going to be a trap or I wouldn't really consider that it's a trap to get you further involved, it's gambling and anyone can win and lose, so the casino doesn't mean that the first win is to trap you further.

All of this depends on the gambler's point of view, if indeed they address gambling as more of a pleasure activity (earning) then I think it is very possible that you are easily tempted by your first win and think excessively like thinking that "this is a good place to earn, I think it all comes back to one's point of view and understanding in terms of gambling especially about probability, if from the start they understand everything then I think they will remain fine, or that means they will not be easily tempted by something that looks like tempting.
Maybe it's not a trap for gamblers but for gamblers themselves who want to get bigger wins so that's why there are still many gamblers who return to gambling. They are tempted to win again after the first gambling game and think they can win again. Casinos already know this so they continue to provide promotions that attract gamblers to return to gambling. And that's what makes gamblers return to gambling.

If gamblers know that getting a win when they start gambling is just beginner's luck, they should not be tempted to return to gambling. Maybe they can return another day but I don't think they can win the gambling game again. It will make them think that they can earn or make money from gambling and if they think like that, they will continue to return to gambling and maybe they will spend even more money.

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December 16, 2023, 03:30:12 PM
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I think that it is common in gambling sites that they make you win the moment you play your first game, and that's part of their tricks and traps because of course you like the game and you'll be inspired if you win in the first game. but later on, when you lose you want to take back your winnings and that's when you start to get addicted to gambling.

Therefore, it is necessary to be consistent when playing gambling on a new site and winning the first game, it is best to withdraw all the money and then return it in a few days to try your luck again. Usually there are casinos that may read the player's character from the behavior of the way he gambles. The point is, every time you win in the first game, don't continue the game if you don't want something bad to happen in the end.

Whether it's a gambling addiction or losing more money because the bottom line is that we should never follow our desires when we get our first win at a new casino, it could be a trap or some kind of trick and it could also be your luck, so make sure to use techniques too The strategy I usually use is to immediately withdraw the money then leave, after a few days try to come back again to gamble there looking for new luck.  Wink

usually the first win is definitely cashed in first and they will come back after a few days later, assuming there will definitely be another win that can be cashed in and this continues to happen in the future, where they have been made sure of the first win but the rest are only small wins that are always obtained and small wins are not worth cashing in so they keep trying to get a win that is worth cashing in. so we should realize that luck is not always on the side of every gambling.

It's true, don't let the first win make someone addicted to gambling, but it can't be hidden this is the fact that many gamblers are trapped in their first win, what you do is good, because it's true that luck won't be on your side all the time, luck will definitely be on your side once in a while not all the time.

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We all know that gambling is all about luck and if you don't have luck I don't think you can win a gambling but from my understanding I'm seeing that gambling is something when you will win you won't know, so someone can gamble for the first time and win and it's base on the person's luck and same time someone can also gamble for the first time and lose and if he or she tries again and again the person will lose again it depends on the person's luck, so in all gambling is not something you can win and you boasts for it, basically a gambling is a game of opportunity and luck
You are correct. Gambling is played on luck. It was always about luck. But we shouldn't say that all the time because there are many fake gambling sites around the internet. These fake gambling site lures the gamblers by rigging the game the first couple of times and after some wins when he builds up enough confident that he can win, that's when the real tricks begins. He ends up losing everything.

Gambling is not the only basis for whether you are lucky or not, you must have intelligence on how to play any gambling games, especially card games. As for the fake gambling sites yeah, it does really exist.

That's why we should always be careful and don't lose defense, we can search it online and check if the gambling site we entered is legit.

I also experienced one time an influencer who promoted this gambling site and then when I signed into that site, I had to use his/her referral code. And then I did it out of curiosity and excitement since the only amount that you need to cash into your account is low. I won in the first game but lost afterward. So I quit.
I did rely on my luck on that site, but I ran out of luck. Cheesy

 I think that it is common in gambling sites that they make you win the moment you play your first game, and that's part of their tricks and traps because of course you like the game and you'll be inspired if you win in the first game. but later on, when you lose you want to take back your winnings and that's when you start to get addicted to gambling.

Gambling is not just luck, but also the idea of competence. This combination is seductive and misleading. Card games' thin border between skill and luck must be considered when discussing intelligence. Probabilities prevail, and the house always wins. Your influencer and initial win experience illustrates how these platforms work. They generate a winning fantasy that releases dangerously addictive dopamine. The first win hooks you in by playing on the innate urge to duplicate success

You identified a frequent gambling strategy: the initial gain is a trap. Understanding human psychology is crucial. Our brains seek patterns and believe in winning streaks In gambling, these are generally well-crafted illusions that deceive. The loss-chasing cycle is harmful. Being aware of these methods helps us make informed decisions. Gambling should be approached cautiously and cognizant of its psychological dangers. Intelligence in playing the game and recognizing its emotional and financial effects is crucial

That site is making a way to entice me to make a bet with their games, and that is by making me win in the first game which later on I quit and still be able to manage my bankroll.  It’s okay for me cause I was just only giving it a try even though I know for myself that I run out of luck every time I gamble.  Grin It gives me not much of a profit but it keeps me entertained.

Maybe if I didn't use my instinct at that time and just go along with their tricks, I might have become a gambler addict right but came back to my senses and made me realize that I should stop what I’m doing and then rest for a while. I mean let's just accept the fact that money will flow towards you and money will flow away from you.


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December 16, 2023, 05:15:30 PM
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I don't think the first win is always going to be a trap or I wouldn't really consider that it's a trap to get you further involved, it's gambling and anyone can win and lose, so the casino doesn't mean that the first win is to trap you further.

All of this depends on the gambler's point of view, if indeed they address gambling as more of a pleasure activity (earning) then I think it is very possible that you are easily tempted by your first win and think excessively like thinking that "this is a good place to earn, I think it all comes back to one's point of view and understanding in terms of gambling especially about probability, if from the start they understand everything then I think they will remain fine, or that means they will not be easily tempted by something that looks like tempting.

I think the that's exactly what the OP wanted to say but with different words. In the end, what he meant is that "gamblers should  not believe in first game win trap" because they might be tempted by the pleasurable sensation of the first win. Of course, it would be harder for a more stoic gambler to fall into this trap, so we should take the fact that we are all different for granted.

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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

Yes, the easiest way to convince and addict a player is to show him the "path to happiness", making him believe that it is possible to win a lot of money.
Certainly many players who are unable to win in the first few games end up losing their enthusiasm and desire to continue betting, which is why it is "important" that casinos provide players with a way to win some money right from the start..... this is generally provided. with "welcome bonuses" that considerably increase the user's chances of winning something.

Likewise, it is necessary to keep players motivated, enabling them to eventually win something "considerable", which is why houses always work with just over 50% instead of 80%, for example.... to make a profit but still provide "good chances" of victory for players eventually.

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December 17, 2023, 12:22:18 PM
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I very rarely find people who have their first loss in gambling then they then chase that loss, because most people who start gambling they use the money they can lose and most if they lose the first time gambling they are indifferent to gambling.

Except for people who first win the first time gambling in their first moment of gambling and can get money 5 to 10 times the deposit they made, it will consider gambling to bring good luck in his life and certainly people who experience it will experience kecanuduan, because he will come again to try his luck in gambling next time, well that's where someone will lose money and can't lose his money until finally he chases defeat.
This is true and we don't know whether this had been planned or just the coincidence. Most of the time people easily fall for it, because it was kind of trial and they find themselves successful. This further makes them experience massive loss. Most of the gamblers could've experienced it, and many could've lost big money for the same reason.

This happens with any game, I personally experienced it with Dice. I don't have much knowledge and I was just wagering, whatever chosen becomes a win. Finally I wasn't able to keep up the win. Maybe someone who have the better fund management skill could easily take a break and make it successful whereas the majority wager for big and loss everything.
Gamblers think that repeated bets will result in the same winnings, leading them to lose. If you are not experienced in gambling it is really difficult to deal with these situations dice are invaluable for determining your betting strategy in games. Volatility also known as variance describes the level of risk involved in a game it represents the frequency and size of potential wins. Dice games are generally considered high volatility because while you can adjust your chances of winning the potential for big wins and losses is significant.

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December 17, 2023, 12:51:57 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.
Truly gambling is a game of luck, however gamblers are suppose to engage in a betting in which the odds favours them or their chances of winning is bright irrespective of whether the outcome of their first bet ended in win or lose, most importantly is for the gamblers to focus on bettings which are their main preference or having a depth knowledge on, for instance I bet on soccer matches just like I knew the chances of Man City defeating Luton Town is bright or Man City would score atleast 2 goals etc these are gambling based on the prior knowledge and pre-analysis of games which is expected to be carried out by gamblers to increase their chances of winning their bets  all I needed to do is to parley that bet with two or three more bet to accumulate a reasonable odd.

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December 17, 2023, 03:12:26 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

 The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.


But newbies who just won on their first tries are more likely to get hooked because of the feeling that it is easy money, although we cannot rule out that even if newbies lose on their first try they can still get addicted, it is on the character of the newbies some newbies are persistent because they have seen other gamblers who made a lot of money and they believe that if you continue playing, you will eventually find the luck and the knowledge to win in gambling, so they continue to win even though they are losing a lot of money.

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December 17, 2023, 04:11:41 PM
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I very rarely find people who have their first loss in gambling then they then chase that loss, because most people who start gambling they use the money they can lose and most if they lose the first time gambling they are indifferent to gambling.

Except for people who first win the first time gambling in their first moment of gambling and can get money 5 to 10 times the deposit they made, it will consider gambling to bring good luck in his life and certainly people who experience it will experience kecanuduan, because he will come again to try his luck in gambling next time, well that's where someone will lose money and can't lose his money until finally he chases defeat.
This is true and we don't know whether this had been planned or just the coincidence. Most of the time people easily fall for it, because it was kind of trial and they find themselves successful. This further makes them experience massive loss. Most of the gamblers could've experienced it, and many could've lost big money for the same reason.

This happens with any game, I personally experienced it with Dice. I don't have much knowledge and I was just wagering, whatever chosen becomes a win. Finally I wasn't able to keep up the win. Maybe someone who have the better fund management skill could easily take a break and make it successful whereas the majority wager for big and loss everything.
Gamblers think that repeated bets will result in the same winnings, leading them to lose. If you are not experienced in gambling it is really difficult to deal with these situations dice are invaluable for determining your betting strategy in games. Volatility also known as variance describes the level of risk involved in a game it represents the frequency and size of potential wins. Dice games are generally considered high volatility because while you can adjust your chances of winning the potential for big wins and losses is significant.
Yes you are right, the dice is indeed very complicated and bigger potential for defeat, I think if excessive and only looking for victory in this dice game will make someone lose himself and the money, I once tried to play in some casinos to play my 7/10 dice at Give the first and attract me to come back at another time, and yes the mechanism is almost the same, you will spin in the same pattern and defeat is a definite thing, especially with ambitions to make money that has been eliminated in the game. Someone needs to study again and again in understanding this and don't get carried away by emotions.

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December 17, 2023, 04:30:43 PM
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I don't think the first win is always going to be a trap or I wouldn't really consider that it's a trap to get you further involved, it's gambling and anyone can win and lose, so the casino doesn't mean that the first win is to trap you further.

All of this depends on the gambler's point of view, if indeed they address gambling as more of a pleasure activity (earning) then I think it is very possible that you are easily tempted by your first win and think excessively like thinking that "this is a good place to earn, I think it all comes back to one's point of view and understanding in terms of gambling especially about probability, if from the start they understand everything then I think they will remain fine, or that means they will not be easily tempted by something that looks like tempting.
Maybe it's not a trap for gamblers but for gamblers themselves who want to get bigger wins so that's why there are still many gamblers who return to gambling. They are tempted to win again after the first gambling game and think they can win again. Casinos already know this so they continue to provide promotions that attract gamblers to return to gambling. And that's what makes gamblers return to gambling.

If gamblers know that getting a win when they start gambling is just beginner's luck, they should not be tempted to return to gambling. Maybe they can return another day but I don't think they can win the gambling game again. It will make them think that they can earn or make money from gambling and if they think like that, they will continue to return to gambling and maybe they will spend even more money.

And that means there is something that must be questioned regarding what exactly their purpose is to come and engage in this activity, people assume that the first win can be a trap that is only for or especially for people who are excessive in putting hopes on gambling so that they will indirectly change their mindset to "gambling to produce and pursue victory", basically an understanding that is not based on strong assertiveness will  clearly make them easily change their point of view on gambling.

I think if from the beginning they have  brought the right and healthy perspective on gambling then they will not be too tempted by the wins they get in the early stages of their involvement, in accordance with what I said earlier that if they already have the right understanding then obviously  they will be able to take some precautions, stop when they have got a certain amount of winnings and also stop when the position is losing, it is easy to do with a pretty good understanding and awareness..

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December 17, 2023, 08:49:58 PM
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When a person enters a casino and usually does so for the first time, things can be seen very well from the point of view that one always enters with the hope of always winning, there is a common belief that when one enters with 100usd one leaves. lead to $10k and something like that, then when you play you may have some luck and win very little, but later when you play more you begin to know the game as it is and it may happen that at the moment of playing the bad thing begins streak and the novice player always believes that by putting in more money he will get rid of Losses and it is like worse, then when things try to become more focused on winning, the novice player has to accept that the game has good streaks, bad streaks And when there is a bad streak that is long, it does not mean that the casino is stealing it, but that the system is like that.

When a current rookie says that he is being robbed, it is because he has really lost a lot of money, and it seems unfair to him that he has put in a significant Amount of Money and lost , that is What gives rise to things being able to happen that way.

When I started in the World of Casinos , the first thing I Played apart from Dice was poker , but when I started playing dice a lot , I Realized that things were Easy and at the same time difficult to master, because I always used the martingale , so I thought it was Unfair that I lost about 15 times, I said that the casino was robbing me, because it was not possible that Every shot with more Money Would make me lose, and then all this Started, but I didn't understand the Provably Fais thing, it moved him the seed, it moved numbers, a lot of things wrong that I Didn't Even know what to do, but how to do it, I watched a lot of Videos on YouTube, I discovered the Forum and here you come Across a lot of things, and that's why more and more it follows After all , this is a big world , it is something that is becoming more and more Known.

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December 17, 2023, 09:21:00 PM
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Gamblers should not believe in first game win trap
In this case, it is not correct to call them gamblers at all, but rather it is better to describe them as newcomers in the field of gambling or those who are in their first experiences with gambling. Because any beginner is often deceived by his first profit experience, especially if he is able to achieve a large profit.
We are now discussing the profit that comes quickly during the first gambling experiences and is the catalyst for the following experiences. But if the first profit came after a long series of successive losses, I think its psychological impact would necessarily be less.

I read the comments and was not surprised by the opinions of the majority who agree that the first profit is always the incentive to continue gambling.
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December 17, 2023, 11:28:00 PM
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I don't think the first win is always going to be a trap or I wouldn't really consider that it's a trap to get you further involved, it's gambling and anyone can win and lose, so the casino doesn't mean that the first win is to trap you further.

All of this depends on the gambler's point of view, if indeed they address gambling as more of a pleasure activity (earning) then I think it is very possible that you are easily tempted by your first win and think excessively like thinking that "this is a good place to earn, I think it all comes back to one's point of view and understanding in terms of gambling especially about probability, if from the start they understand everything then I think they will remain fine, or that means they will not be easily tempted by something that looks like tempting.

The first game may be the loss game to some gamblers,we can’t say the first game is the win for all the gamblers.It also depends on the gambling site which you are playing your game.The scam gambling site never allow you to win from the first game to loss game,the gambler will try to get the loss by depositing the money to the gambling site.But the fact is they never make the win from the scam gambling site.Even though the gamblers deposited 1000 dollars,he can’t win the ten dollars from such gambling site.The gamblers strategy itself enough to make the win from the good gambling site.

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December 17, 2023, 11:47:34 PM
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I don't think the first win is always going to be a trap or I wouldn't really consider that it's a trap to get you further involved, it's gambling and anyone can win and lose, so the casino doesn't mean that the first win is to trap you further.

All of this depends on the gambler's point of view, if indeed they address gambling as more of a pleasure activity (earning) then I think it is very possible that you are easily tempted by your first win and think excessively like thinking that "this is a good place to earn, I think it all comes back to one's point of view and understanding in terms of gambling especially about probability, if from the start they understand everything then I think they will remain fine, or that means they will not be easily tempted by something that looks like tempting.

The first game may be the loss game to some gamblers,we can’t say the first game is the win for all the gamblers.It also depends on the gambling site which you are playing your game.The scam gambling site never allow you to win from the first game to loss game,the gambler will try to get the loss by depositing the money to the gambling site.But the fact is they never make the win from the scam gambling site.Even though the gamblers deposited 1000 dollars,he can’t win the ten dollars from such gambling site.The gamblers strategy itself enough to make the win from the good gambling site.
When im just new to gambling, then i do really have that so called beginners luck on which it is true that it would really be giving out that kind of boost up on trying out to play even more because
you would be having that impression that it would be something that will really be that continuing and this is why you cant really be able to blame out that you wouldn't really be stopping anytime soon.
Until the time comes that losses are starting to pule up on which it do really cause that huge slice into my budget on which later on i did make out that complete quit up
and never turned back to play like that. I might be playing on some moments or being occasional gambling on which i do see for it not to be that bad.

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December 18, 2023, 01:25:44 PM
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I don't think the first win is always going to be a trap or I wouldn't really consider that it's a trap to get you further involved, it's gambling and anyone can win and lose, so the casino doesn't mean that the first win is to trap you further.

All of this depends on the gambler's point of view, if indeed they address gambling as more of a pleasure activity (earning) then I think it is very possible that you are easily tempted by your first win and think excessively like thinking that "this is a good place to earn, I think it all comes back to one's point of view and understanding in terms of gambling especially about probability, if from the start they understand everything then I think they will remain fine, or that means they will not be easily tempted by something that looks like tempting.

The first game may be the loss game to some gamblers,we can’t say the first game is the win for all the gamblers.It also depends on the gambling site which you are playing your game.The scam gambling site never allow you to win from the first game to loss game,the gambler will try to get the loss by depositing the money to the gambling site.But the fact is they never make the win from the scam gambling site.Even though the gamblers deposited 1000 dollars,he can’t win the ten dollars from such gambling site.The gamblers strategy itself enough to make the win from the good gambling site.

The conclusion that the OP is referring to is that usually someone will experience a change in mindset if at the beginning of their involvement they immediately get a win and that is what is meant by the first win trap, and that means not every gambler who just entered will always get a win but still in gambling everything cannot be predicted whether you will win or lose.

As for your statement about what casino they play at, or do you mean that winning depends on how good the casino is, I honestly never thought of it that way, I never thought that losing was caused by irresponsible or scam casinos, unless you are mentioning that casinos don't pay gamblers their winnings, well if that is what you mean then I guess I would agree with your idea, but as for the difficulty of finding winnings I think it is just about luck and I would say that if there are people who gamble without winning then I would say that they are very far from lucky.

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December 18, 2023, 04:58:55 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

 The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.
But newbies who just won on their first tries are more likely to get hooked because of the feeling that it is easy money, although we cannot rule out that even if newbies lose on their first try they can still get addicted, it is on the character of the newbies some newbies are persistent because they have seen other gamblers who made a lot of money and they believe that if you continue playing, you will eventually find the luck and the knowledge to win in gambling, so they continue to win even though they are losing a lot of money.
Getting addicted to gambling is dependent on one's views about gambling. If a gambler sees gambling as a way to earn money, they are bound to get addicted to it eventually even if they get a profit in their first gambling session or not because they will always come back looking for profits as soon as they get money even if they have lost what they had, and when a person does that, nothing can stop them from getting addicted because they are not disciplined.

On the other hand, a person or a gambler who gambles not just for profit but finds it a fun and entertaining activity or hobby and they don't mind losing, winning makes them happier, of course. Such people will have lower chances of getting addicted to gambling and any other activity that they might find more interesting can easily take them away from gambling.

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December 18, 2023, 09:32:18 PM
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First time winning is indeed a trap. Once a friend introduced me to a gambling site that pays. At first I was reluctant to try it out but after some time I decided to give it a trial. During the first round of the game, I won   Grin, what a motivation to put in more effort! I tried my luck again the second time, I lost. The loss didn't stop me from playing further,  infact I became even more serious and I lost them all. I believed if I could win during the first round,  then it is possible for me to win again but a second, third and even fourth winning never seemed to show up again, instead I kept losing money, I was trapped! It got to a point I had to call myself to order for I have lost more than enough.

A win is a big driving force, especially when it occurs during your first time of gambling or during the first round. It will trigger you to do more , more and more until you have nothing to gamble with anymore. No matter the outcome of your gamble, always stick to your budget or decision (If you had one before setting out to gamble), it will save you money and stress.

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December 18, 2023, 09:40:06 PM
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I don't think the first win is always going to be a trap or I wouldn't really consider that it's a trap to get you further involved, it's gambling and anyone can win and lose, so the casino doesn't mean that the first win is to trap you further.

All of this depends on the gambler's point of view, if indeed they address gambling as more of a pleasure activity (earning) then I think it is very possible that you are easily tempted by your first win and think excessively like thinking that "this is a good place to earn, I think it all comes back to one's point of view and understanding in terms of gambling especially about probability, if from the start they understand everything then I think they will remain fine, or that means they will not be easily tempted by something that looks like tempting.

The first game may be the loss game to some gamblers,we can’t say the first game is the win for all the gamblers.It also depends on the gambling site which you are playing your game.The scam gambling site never allow you to win from the first game to loss game,the gambler will try to get the loss by depositing the money to the gambling site.But the fact is they never make the win from the scam gambling site.Even though the gamblers deposited 1000 dollars,he can’t win the ten dollars from such gambling site.The gamblers strategy itself enough to make the win from the good gambling site.

The conclusion that the OP is referring to is that usually someone will experience a change in mindset if at the beginning of their involvement they immediately get a win and that is what is meant by the first win trap, and that means not every gambler who just entered will always get a win but still in gambling everything cannot be predicted whether you will win or lose.

As for your statement about what casino they play at, or do you mean that winning depends on how good the casino is, I honestly never thought of it that way, I never thought that losing was caused by irresponsible or scam casinos, unless you are mentioning that casinos don't pay gamblers their winnings, well if that is what you mean then I guess I would agree with your idea, but as for the difficulty of finding winnings I think it is just about luck and I would say that if there are people who gamble without winning then I would say that they are very far from lucky.
First win trap is somethin that would really be that those casinos would really be trying out to be happening specially these method would really be that effective majority with those noobs who are really that having that greedy approach towards gambling. Yes, you could really be able to make those initial wins but on the time that you wouldnt really be abel to to make those winnings and experiencing those losses then this is the best time  that you should really be quitting. Dont believe it on the first place? Easy to say but majority would really be failing to do so specially if that someone is really that expecting something positive with gambling then
most likely you would really be falling into that trap.

Somewhat if you are a type of person who do have that strong will and discipline or simply with those awareness at first place then you wont really that get easily hooked with those first win traps.
You would immediately be quitting up if ever you do see that you are spending up money that much.

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December 18, 2023, 11:48:37 PM
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Gamblers should careful of the challenges coming their way because it's never an easy tasks to filled in the void left open by most of their fellow gamblers. We take precautions whenever we're in the system, it doesn't respect any man and winning ought to be our ultimate objectives in the system. I know how frustrating it can be to captures winning especially in the first game wager on, I would silently close for that day because if one continue to gamble, losing is indirectionally calling him and before he knows it, your bank accounts will start bleeding from the heavy spending on the system with full hope of recovering.

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December 19, 2023, 04:40:03 AM
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A win is a big driving force, especially when it occurs during your first time of gambling or during the first round. It will trigger you to do more , more and more until you have nothing to gamble with anymore. No matter the outcome of your gamble, always stick to your budget or decision (If you had one before setting out to gamble), it will save you money and stress.

Well, I believe the beginner's luck will carry over until the first week since a newbie starts gambling. Though they might not have won on their very first bet, but a couple of tries and finally get the win, one might probably going to start to get hooked up in gambling.
Once a person starts winning, there is always something that's telling us that we could easily take back what we've lost with just a series of win during lucky moments. But that's just the start of it, not being addicted, but becoming a regular gambler.

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December 19, 2023, 06:50:17 AM
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First time winning is indeed a trap. Once a friend introduced me to a gambling site that pays. At first I was reluctant to try it out but after some time I decided to give it a trial. During the first round of the game, I won   Grin, what a motivation to put in more effort! I tried my luck again the second time, I lost. The loss didn't stop me from playing further,  infact I became even more serious and I lost them all. I believed if I could win during the first round,  then it is possible for me to win again but a second, third and even fourth winning never seemed to show up again, instead I kept losing money, I was trapped! It got to a point I had to call myself to order for I have lost more than enough.

A win is a big driving force, especially when it occurs during your first time of gambling or during the first round. It will trigger you to do more , more and more until you have nothing to gamble with anymore. No matter the outcome of your gamble, always stick to your budget or decision (If you had one before setting out to gamble), it will save you money and stress.

the possibility of gambling companies doing that is because the trick is like that, giving the winnings at the beginning so that they are happy, and the rest of the choice is theirs, like you said. the purpose of gambling companies is of course to reap the benefits of many people so they give the winnings at the beginning to convince people who gamble to continue gambling and this is proven by yourself. This is what gambling companies want where they will make a gambler to continue gambling because they will benefit from gamblers who are addicted to gambling, and when the gambler has got his first win then most likely they will gamble on wards because they are sure of the winnings they can get back. gambling companies have certainly prepared everything including marketing and strategies to attract the attention of many people, because of course gambling companies will always benefit by arranging everything in such a way, and also as the host they will always win, the initial victory is only an attractant for gamblers that can make them get stuck in the gambling cycle and spend their money on gambling and this results in profits for gambling companies which is their goal, getting people addicted to gambling to spend their money on gambling.

But keep in mind also, gambling companies that are everywhere do not force people to become addicted, but what makes them addicted to gambling is themselves. with their own choices that make them trapped in gambling and with the losses that are always obtained it is not because of the gambling company, but their own mistakes that cannot resist themselves with the temptation of gambling. It's true that winning is an incentive for people to gamble more often, the more often they deposit their money in gambling, the more profitable it is for gambling companies. if they can restrain themselves maybe they won't get caught up in the gambling cycle, the first win should not be made a benchmark, especially with that win we put great hopes on gambling that will hurt them financially in the long run.

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December 19, 2023, 07:09:47 AM
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First time winning is indeed a trap. Once a friend introduced me to a gambling site that pays. At first I was reluctant to try it out but after some time I decided to give it a trial. During the first round of the game, I won   Grin, what a motivation to put in more effort! I tried my luck again the second time, I lost. The loss didn't stop me from playing further,  infact I became even more serious and I lost them all. I believed if I could win during the first round,  then it is possible for me to win again but a second, third and even fourth winning never seemed to show up again, instead I kept losing money, I was trapped! It got to a point I had to call myself to order for I have lost more than enough.

A win is a big driving force, especially when it occurs during your first time of gambling or during the first round. It will trigger you to do more , more and more until you have nothing to gamble with anymore. No matter the outcome of your gamble, always stick to your budget or decision (If you had one before setting out to gamble), it will save you money and stress.
If you win once, you will be encouraged to play more for more luck, and you are lucky to have won the first time. The first time, a friend of mine selected the games and I was happy and expecting money to come because I was in school and had already calculated for that money, but there was no win so I just decided to leave it alone until I started seeing a lot of wins on Twitter, and I was encouraged to try my luck as well, but not recklessly and with serious caution. And there are people who, when they first start playing, they always win, and then they start losing, and by then they are used to winning, so it's a continuous automatic play for them, and before you know it, they are already drawn in, and gambling sometimes goes beyond what we expect. Playing the first time is what will sometimes determine how the gambling future of some people will be.

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December 19, 2023, 08:05:33 AM
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First time winning is indeed a trap. Once a friend introduced me to a gambling site that pays. At first I was reluctant to try it out but after some time I decided to give it a trial. During the first round of the game, I won   Grin, what a motivation to put in more effort! I tried my luck again the second time, I lost. The loss didn't stop me from playing further,  infact I became even more serious and I lost them all. I believed if I could win during the first round,  then it is possible for me to win again but a second, third and even fourth winning never seemed to show up again, instead I kept losing money, I was trapped! It got to a point I had to call myself to order for I have lost more than enough.

A win is a big driving force, especially when it occurs during your first time of gambling or during the first round. It will trigger you to do more , more and more until you have nothing to gamble with anymore. No matter the outcome of your gamble, always stick to your budget or decision (If you had one before setting out to gamble), it will save you money and stress.
If you win once, you will be encouraged to play more for more luck, and you are lucky to have won the first time. The first time, a friend of mine selected the games and I was happy and expecting money to come because I was in school and had already calculated for that money, but there was no win so I just decided to leave it alone until I started seeing a lot of wins on Twitter, and I was encouraged to try my luck as well, but not recklessly and with serious caution. And there are people who, when they first start playing, they always win, and then they start losing, and by then they are used to winning, so it's a continuous automatic play for them, and before you know it, they are already drawn in, and gambling sometimes goes beyond what we expect. Playing the first time is what will sometimes determine how the gambling future of some people will be.

First time win/lose can't determine if the gambler will become addicted if he opted to continue to play. The question is, why he is still playing? Is it to have fun or to make money? Because if the latter is the reason and his main desire when playing, it can really lead to serious problem when he is blinded with his goal. Aside from recovering the losses, lack of discipline and self-control, the desperation to profit is often the cause why a gambler is becoming addicted. Hence, it's not about the first time experience but your mindset towards gambling to continue this activity.

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December 19, 2023, 08:28:36 AM
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First time winning is indeed a trap. Once a friend introduced me to a gambling site that pays. At first I was reluctant to try it out but after some time I decided to give it a trial. During the first round of the game, I won   Grin, what a motivation to put in more effort! I tried my luck again the second time, I lost. The loss didn't stop me from playing further,  infact I became even more serious and I lost them all. I believed if I could win during the first round,  then it is possible for me to win again but a second, third and even fourth winning never seemed to show up again, instead I kept losing money, I was trapped! It got to a point I had to call myself to order for I have lost more than enough.

A win is a big driving force, especially when it occurs during your first time of gambling or during the first round. It will trigger you to do more , more and more until you have nothing to gamble with anymore. No matter the outcome of your gamble, always stick to your budget or decision (If you had one before setting out to gamble), it will save you money and stress.
If you win once, you will be encouraged to play more for more luck, and you are lucky to have won the first time. The first time, a friend of mine selected the games and I was happy and expecting money to come because I was in school and had already calculated for that money, but there was no win so I just decided to leave it alone until I started seeing a lot of wins on Twitter, and I was encouraged to try my luck as well, but not recklessly and with serious caution. And there are people who, when they first start playing, they always win, and then they start losing, and by then they are used to winning, so it's a continuous automatic play for them, and before you know it, they are already drawn in, and gambling sometimes goes beyond what we expect. Playing the first time is what will sometimes determine how the gambling future of some people will be.

First time win/lose can't determine if the gambler will become addicted if he opted to continue to play. The question is, why he is still playing? Is it to have fun or to make money? Because if the latter is the reason and his main desire when playing, it can really lead to serious problem when he is blinded with his goal. Aside from recovering the losses, lack of discipline and self-control, the desperation to profit is often the cause why a gambler is becoming addicted. Hence, it's not about the first time experience but your mindset towards gambling to continue this activity.

It could be true, but for sure, when we started our gambling journey, we have experience this so called beginners luck. So what it do is just reinforce us to gamble for more after the taste of your first win. And so others fell for it as they want to continue and replicate that experience.

So they try again and again until they've lost self-control already and turning into a gambling addict. So it's really a very dangerous and it could be a trap for the majority of us believing as the OP said, that we will go on and continue to win and win big, until it's too late.

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December 19, 2023, 02:39:18 PM
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The conclusion that the OP is referring to is that usually someone will experience a change in mindset if at the beginning of their involvement they immediately get a win and that is what is meant by the first win trap, and that means not every gambler who just entered will always get a win but still in gambling everything cannot be predicted whether you will win or lose.

As for your statement about what casino they play at, or do you mean that winning depends on how good the casino is, I honestly never thought of it that way, I never thought that losing was caused by irresponsible or scam casinos, unless you are mentioning that casinos don't pay gamblers their winnings, well if that is what you mean then I guess I would agree with your idea, but as for the difficulty of finding winnings I think it is just about luck and I would say that if there are people who gamble without winning then I would say that they are very far from lucky.
First win trap is somethin that would really be that those casinos would really be trying out to be happening specially these method would really be that effective majority with those noobs who are really that having that greedy approach towards gambling. Yes, you could really be able to make those initial wins but on the time that you wouldnt really be abel to to make those winnings and experiencing those losses then this is the best time  that you should really be quitting. Dont believe it on the first place? Easy to say but majority would really be failing to do so specially if that someone is really that expecting something positive with gambling then
most likely you would really be falling into that trap.

Somewhat if you are a type of person who do have that strong will and discipline or simply with those awareness at first place then you wont really that get easily hooked with those first win traps.
You would immediately be quitting up if ever you do see that you are spending up money that much.

But as I said above that in this problem especially for a win it is still difficult to predict, and maybe the title that the OP wrote is more referring to the change in mindset and perspective when novice gamblers get a win at the beginning of their involvement, increasing budgets, hopes and expectations for something much bigger than what they have won before is something they are likely to do if they come with the wrong perspective or if indeed the first win succeeds in changing their perspective on gambling.

It's hard to stop when it's too late, or when the mind is completely focused on winning, and they may end up gambling more aggressively instead of thinking  of some limits or plans to stop when some indications of something worse happen. Of course only awareness can bring it all back, or I mean bring their point of view back to the right path, but maybe if they have already experienced such a change in the beginning then I think it might be too late.

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December 20, 2023, 01:07:02 PM
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I have heard before that many gambling services make them win in many games and then make the person lose by making them place higher bets especially to their new members. Yes, this is something that can be possible with certain algorithmic arrangements especially in many gambling games but I don't think that casinos specifically use such an algorithm. As we all know, the worst thing that can happen to a person in gambling is to earn a high amount of money when he or she just starts gambling because this not only causes the person to gamble more but also triggers the ambition to earn more.

I think that especially someone who is going to gamble for the first time should pay attention to such details and determine very well where he/she should stand if he/she can potentially make continuous profits. If risk management is not provided correctly the person is likely to encounter disappointment.
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December 20, 2023, 01:16:42 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

I hope you know that luck is not a thing that is predictabl and not generic, we have some people that are very lucky in gambling that a time will come that you will ask your self if you are doing the right thing or the wrong thing. You will think that you are not doing something good but it's luck and I have seen a new gambler make something good many times and few losses despite having a big first win from ha.

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If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

This one is important, some new gamblers are trapped by this many times and regret after just like a guy that borrowed a huge amount of money and add to his own only to lose everything and took his own life for failure and scared of the shame that he may be able to pay back the money he borrowed. This are the kind of set up and because of lack of proper orientation of gambling, they fall for it.

There is this part many gamblers fail to see, if many people win from gambling, I think we will have testimonies everytime but it's only few and it's only when they win they post about it and when they lost, they don't post anything. That's tell us how careful we should be if you are thinking of making money from gambling, the rule should always be bet responsibly.

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There is this part many gamblers fail to see, if many people win from gambling, I think we will have testimonies everytime but it's only few and it's only when they win they post about it and when they lost, they don't post anything. That's tell us how careful we should be if you are thinking of making money from gambling, the rule should always be bet responsibly.

People are happier to share wins than losses. If someone sees someone else being lucky, we as people who see it should make ourselves aware about that. even if we play, maybe we won't be able to win like the people who share their wins on all social media and even in this forum. Of course all of us can try to play the game that giving a win , but we don't have to chase the same win as the winning can achieved by them.

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I don't think the first win is always going to be a trap or I wouldn't really consider that it's a trap to get you further involved, it's gambling and anyone can win and lose, so the casino doesn't mean that the first win is to trap you further.

All of this depends on the gambler's point of view, if indeed they address gambling as more of a pleasure activity (earning) then I think it is very possible that you are easily tempted by your first win and think excessively like thinking that "this is a good place to earn, I think it all comes back to one's point of view and understanding in terms of gambling especially about probability, if from the start they understand everything then I think they will remain fine, or that means they will not be easily tempted by something that looks like tempting.
Not all first win gamblers that will finish their money by continue gambling at the moment because, they will have something like this in mind that if the money got finish and people are already know that he or she won big money in the gambling which will be the reason why some wise gamblers will not continue after first win. Despite many gamblers have never win from their gambling but they are very wise and, if they have such opportunity, they will manage it well by saving some money for future betting and invest remaining money on business that will be bringing money to continue gambling in the community.

I think every gamblers in the gambling center knew how gambling work and they know that there are two things that involved in gambling which are gain or loss and anyone that come across gain will be very happy and anyone that will come across loss will not be happy and he or she will not stop gambling.

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I don't think the first win is always going to be a trap or I wouldn't really consider that it's a trap to get you further involved, it's gambling and anyone can win and lose, so the casino doesn't mean that the first win is to trap you further.

All of this depends on the gambler's point of view, if indeed they address gambling as more of a pleasure activity (earning) then I think it is very possible that you are easily tempted by your first win and think excessively like thinking that "this is a good place to earn, I think it all comes back to one's point of view and understanding in terms of gambling especially about probability, if from the start they understand everything then I think they will remain fine, or that means they will not be easily tempted by something that looks like tempting.
Not all first win gamblers that will finish their money by continue gambling at the moment because, they will have something like this in mind that if the money got finish and people are already know that he or she won big money in the gambling which will be the reason why some wise gamblers will not continue after first win. Despite many gamblers have never win from their gambling but they are very wise and, if they have such opportunity, they will manage it well by saving some money for future betting and invest remaining money on business that will be bringing money to continue gambling in the community.

I think every gamblers in the gambling center knew how gambling work and they know that there are two things that involved in gambling which are gain or loss and anyone that come across gain will be very happy and anyone that will come across loss will not be happy and he or she will not stop gambling.

Yes I can slightly conclude from what you said that awareness is one of the most important factors to be able to end everything with the best decision, with enough awareness then obviously they will be able to consider some things that never thought of if their situation was far from awareness, or that means awareness will keep them awake and safe, if at the same time they managed to get a win then obviously the first thing that will be done is memiluh to cash out because the worry and fear of losing  money that has been won will play a role there.

As a result, it's important to be  aware of what you're getting yourself into and what you're getting yourself into, as well as what you're getting yourself into and what you're getting yourself into.

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December 20, 2023, 05:31:03 PM
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Not all first win gamblers that will finish their money by continue gambling at the moment because, they will have something like this in mind that if the money got finish and people are already know that he or she won big money in the gambling which will be the reason why some wise gamblers will not continue after first win. Despite many gamblers have never win from their gambling but they are very wise and, if they have such opportunity, they will manage it well by saving some money for future betting and invest remaining money on business that will be bringing money to continue gambling in the community.

I think every gamblers in the gambling center knew how gambling work and they know that there are two things that involved in gambling which are gain or loss and anyone that come across gain will be very happy and anyone that will come across loss will not be happy and he or she will not stop gambling.

Being on the side of observers can be quite cautious and calculating. However, when you become a player, you are more likely to get caught up in the euphoria. Yes, you will remember that you were going to take your winnings and leave early, but everything in the casino is designed for the winner to get carried away and keep betting
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Not all first win gamblers that will finish their money by continue gambling at the moment because, they will have something like this in mind that if the money got finish and people are already know that he or she won big money in the gambling which will be the reason why some wise gamblers will not continue after first win. Despite many gamblers have never win from their gambling but they are very wise and, if they have such opportunity, they will manage it well by saving some money for future betting and invest remaining money on business that will be bringing money to continue gambling in the community.

I think every gamblers in the gambling center knew how gambling work and they know that there are two things that involved in gambling which are gain or loss and anyone that come across gain will be very happy and anyone that will come across loss will not be happy and he or she will not stop gambling.

Being on the side of observers can be quite cautious and calculating. However, when you become a player, you are more likely to get caught up in the euphoria. Yes, you will remember that you were going to take your winnings and leave early, but everything in the casino is designed for the winner to get carried away and keep betting
It is more easier for us to have the first winning and keep playing for a more better luck since the win is to keep making profits everytime. That might not keep happening everytime so we have to be prepared and make sure we don't do something that would keep taking away the profits we intended to have because of the aim of continuous winning. Winning on a casino should not be of desperation since we all have the time and privilege to keep gambling and making money for ourselves if we are patience enough. We can still make money in gambling if we know what we are doing and how to increase our chances as gamblers.

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December 20, 2023, 06:44:06 PM
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There is this part many gamblers fail to see, if many people win from gambling, I think we will have testimonies everytime but it's only few and it's only when they win they post about it and when they lost, they don't post anything. That's tell us how careful we should be if you are thinking of making money from gambling, the rule should always be bet responsibly.

People are happier to share wins than losses. If someone sees someone else being lucky, we as people who see it should make ourselves aware about that. even if we play, maybe we won't be able to win like the people who share their wins on all social media and even in this forum. Of course all of us can try to play the game that giving a win , but we don't have to chase the same win as the winning can achieved by them.
The category you ended it with can be considered by the unwise gamblers because someone had gambled and won a massive amount, and now, you can think you can follow the exact path of the person to also win. This makes them play more and even aggressively and tireless, but to no substantial gains still. I see no issue in trying to gamble and make winnings but I see the issue in trying to gamble sentimentally. There must not be any emotion in our gambling lifestyle and it is better that we do not emulate anyone or be envious of any person to the point that it will now affect our gambling life and pattern into pushing us into what we didn't plan. This is very wrong, even if a gambler loses, it is not in the right context for such gambler to continue to play emotionally if they do not have their plan already set. This is what causes most of the losses that people will be crying foul. What is peculiar with all these gamblers in this category is that they are acting based on emotion, which must be stopped by being disciplined. As much as I do not like gamblers to be fearful and not freely gamble, I still do not like it when gamblers do not have their plan and know their cautious spots.

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Gamble with the money you can lose.


  If this is what a gambler will always do, he will definitely not become addicted in the end because, from the beginning, you know how much money you will lose when you play gambling. This is what is called you; the amount you will play in gambling is limited.

  Because usually your only intention is to have fun, to have fun, to pass the time, you only do it because you have problems that you are going through, so you think that playing gambling will help you to think properly because you will temporarily forget the problems that you are facing.


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December 20, 2023, 10:18:32 PM
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Gamble with the money you can lose.


  If this is what a gambler will always do, he will definitely not become addicted in the end because, from the beginning, you know how much money you will lose when you play gambling. This is what is called you; the amount you will play in gambling is limited.

  Because usually your only intention is to have fun, to have fun, to pass the time, you only do it because you have problems that you are going through, so you think that playing gambling will help you to think properly because you will temporarily forget the problems that you are facing.


Sounds easy but it would really be that hard for you to maintain it out as you do go further ahead with your gambling activity on which those initial thoughts and plans that you do have will
really be gradually changing up as you do go ahead and this is something not new and something typical if we do speak about gambling. Its true that when it comes to gambling then tons of people would really be that having those impressions that easy win would really be just that too rampant specially if you have experience those beginners luck kind of thing then you would be molding
up that kind of mindset that it was just that easy and its just right that you should be continuing on what you are doing until reality would slap into your face.  Cheesy

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First time winning is indeed a trap. Once a friend introduced me to a gambling site that pays. At first I was reluctant to try it out but after some time I decided to give it a trial. During the first round of the game, I won   Grin, what a motivation to put in more effort! I tried my luck again the second time, I lost. The loss didn't stop me from playing further,  infact I became even more serious and I lost them all. I believed if I could win during the first round,  then it is possible for me to win again but a second, third and even fourth winning never seemed to show up again, instead I kept losing money, I was trapped! It got to a point I had to call myself to order for I have lost more than enough.

A win is a big driving force, especially when it occurs during your first time of gambling or during the first round. It will trigger you to do more , more and more until you have nothing to gamble with anymore. No matter the outcome of your gamble, always stick to your budget or decision (If you had one before setting out to gamble), it will save you money and stress.

On my first day gambling, what saved me from being a victim of such a mistake, was a lesser bankroll. I ran out of funds and immediately stopped gambling for the day. Beginning the journey with little funds is quite a good way of wagering our spare cash and wouldn't feel bad doing it. The experience was fun and since then my gambling has never been something to be scared about or think of sadly. The first outcome of gambling matters in determining the kind of view a player would have about gambling. When one checks through the reaction of most people who didn't win anymore after their first win in gambling, a good number tried until they lost everything. Why is it so? Because they had in mind that gambling would make them some money. The same initiative pushes them to do more and spend more using Martingale's strategy to earn huge profits. Gamblers do have a budget, but some would forget it once they get to the thrilling point of gambling.

They'll go above their budget by using their card to deposit more money. The thrill can continue until the whole money is lost. Satisfaction is not guaranteed, and the player would have to continue once he gets up to money on his card. A first game win can be a trap and at the same time a false idea. But in justifying people's view on the first win, it relies on the difference of gamblers. Like any other aspect of life, not all gamblers would be prey to such a trap. Some would move on after experiencing a few extra losses. We may think that lots of newbie gamblers fall for this, but the survey isn't there to prove it right. Notwithstanding that many gamblers testify to the fact that they weren't able to escape it, some other players were smart enough to bypass those tricks. Newbie gamblers must understand how to be steps ahead in following the tricks of gambling houses. Otherwise they'll wager all their money, looking for some more wins.

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December 21, 2023, 12:59:35 PM
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Sounds easy but it would really be that hard for you to maintain it out as you do go further ahead with your gambling activity on which those initial thoughts and plans that you do have will
really be gradually changing up as you do go ahead and this is something not new and something typical if we do speak about gambling. Its true that when it comes to gambling then tons of people would really be that having those impressions that easy win would really be just that too rampant specially if you have experience those beginners luck kind of thing then you would be molding
up that kind of mindset that it was just that easy and its just right that you should be continuing on what you are doing until reality would slap into your face.  Cheesy
Hahaha, but that kind of mindset nowadays is not only for beginner gamblers but also for gamblers who have been gambling for quite long time and there are still many who think the same as what you have said.
It just that in my opinion it actually still depends on their goals and ambitions in gambling, even if they get beginner win or beginner luck, if they have the right approach and goals then they won't gamble any longer.
But I really agree that beginners are people who are very easy to get addicted to, not only winning but losing will also be very influential for those who are still beginners.
Beginner gamblers still have quite curiosity about gambling so they will be much more concerned with being able to fulfill that desire than stopping when the time comes.

When we see or know beginner gamblers who do this, it can make us sympathetic and try to give them advice, but many don't care.
From here, the only way might be to let them become gambling addicts and experience the bitter experience, maybe it will be much more meaningful and they can use it as real advice and experience so that in the future they will no longer have the desire to repeat the same thing.

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December 21, 2023, 01:09:12 PM
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Gamble with the money you can lose.


  If this is what a gambler will always do, he will definitely not become addicted in the end because, from the beginning, you know how much money you will lose when you play gambling. This is what is called you; the amount you will play in gambling is limited.

  Because usually your only intention is to have fun, to have fun, to pass the time, you only do it because you have problems that you are going through, so you think that playing gambling will help you to think properly because you will temporarily forget the problems that you are facing.


Sounds easy but it would really be that hard for you to maintain it out as you do go further ahead with your gambling activity on which those initial thoughts and plans that you do have will
really be gradually changing up as you do go ahead and this is something not new and something typical if we do speak about gambling. Its true that when it comes to gambling then tons of people would really be that having those impressions that easy win would really be just that too rampant specially if you have experience those beginners luck kind of thing then you would be molding
up that kind of mindset that it was just that easy and its just right that you should be continuing on what you are doing until reality would slap into your face.  Cheesy

Maybe more precisely is easy to say but difficult to do Grin  I think this problem is no longer strange, some gamblers try to build a plan at the beginning along with applying some limits for precautions to minimize the number of losses is not too significant, on the other hand I think it's a pretty good plan for an approach, but unfortunately it is not uncommon or even very many of them who in the end when facing real situations they break all the promises they have built at the beginning. That is the reason why many end up with addiction, sometimes people who already have a good plan can end up with addiction because they cannot resist all the temptations that exist in every situation, well let alone those who do not prepare any precautions at all and instead act aggressively because they are too focused on winning.

Usually beginners who experience more things like that in my opinion, it is none other than because they do not have full firmness in their planning so it is easy to be shaken just because they see one or two temptations that look like tempting, on the other hand the first win can really change the mindset and point of view of gamblers, thinking that winning is quite easy to get so it is true what the OP said that the first win is very likely to be a trap for them to end up in addiction.

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December 21, 2023, 02:10:14 PM
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Maybe this kind of thing refers to the phenomenon where gamblers are trapped in the wrong mindset that they will continue to win after winning the first game. This could be a winning streak or a belief that their luck will continue. However, keep in mind that gambling outcomes are generally random and independent. Winning or losing the first match does not provide a guarantee that subsequent results will follow the same pattern, in the sense that each match or round must be considered as a separate event that is not affected by previous results. Gamblers who fall into the trap of thinking that they will continue winning after an initial win may continue to fall into risky behavior, placing larger bets to win larger amounts of profit.

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December 21, 2023, 10:56:06 PM
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Maybe this kind of thing refers to the phenomenon where gamblers are trapped in the wrong mindset that they will continue to win after winning the first game. This could be a winning streak or a belief that their luck will continue. However, keep in mind that gambling outcomes are generally random and independent. Winning or losing the first match does not provide a guarantee that subsequent results will follow the same pattern, in the sense that each match or round must be considered as a separate event that is not affected by previous results. Gamblers who fall into the trap of thinking that they will continue winning after an initial win may continue to fall into risky behavior, placing larger bets to win larger amounts of profit.
This can happen to some gamblers who have a mindset like that where when they win in their first gambling game, it makes them think that they can win again in other gambling games. But that cannot guarantee that they will get another win because what often happens is that someone who gambles on another day or in the next gambling game will experience defeat. Even though some people can still win on their second chance, they will also feel the loss, and if they don't realize that this is what gambling is, they will only experience more and more losses.

So that gets many people trapped in situations they couldn't have foreseen. And that makes them decide to keep trying it in the next gambling game or another day while still having that mindset. If they could realize that it was a mistake, they would not gamble so often and would just think that gambling is not something that they think can give them an easy win.

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December 23, 2023, 05:54:05 PM
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It's true that winning or losing has nothing to do with addicts, but that's one of the causes of becoming addicted and you yourself said all this is just about mindset.
so this is how a beginner gambler comes to gambling playing a slot machine after 10 spins and gets a maxwin win and that's when the gambler has the mindset that it turns out gambling can give him money and he will continue to think about the win until the time comes when he comes back again to play slots and losing then depositing again until the time comes when he loses all the money in his pocket while his mind is still curious about his defeat and has additional thought patterns such as being sure to win after losing and continuously making deposits using borrowed money and finally the first signs of addiction have started.

on the one hand, losing can also be the cause of someone becoming addicted for beginners but the potential is not as big as winning except for a beginner gambler who has the idea of wanting to get a big win after seeing his friend win big and starts gambling even though he is losing he keeps trying until the time comes when he loses it all and become addicted to chasing losses.
All newbies in gambling will always had their first win or lose, and each of these result can still lead for them to become an addict in gambling, if they will let their emotions consume them. As a newbie, their desire is still strong but I think they can't immediately become an addict. For it to become one, they need to have a lot of sessions and wagers first.

So, there is still a chance that they can change their direction, just like to the most of us. We realized later on that being addicted in gambling will only do nothing good to us, especially in the long run. What we talked about here must be the same as beginner's luck. Indeed they shouldn't believe about it, so that they will stop trying and losing more.

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All newbies in gambling will always had their first win or lose, and each of these result can still lead for them to become an addict in gambling, if they will let their emotions consume them. As a newbie, their desire is still strong but I think they can't immediately become an addict. For it to become one, they need to have a lot of sessions and wagers first.

So, there is still a chance that they can change their direction, just like to the most of us. We realized later on that being addicted in gambling will only do nothing good to us, especially in the long run. What we talked about here must be the same as beginner's luck. Indeed they shouldn't believe about it, so that they will stop trying and losing more.
yep, beginner gamblers dont immediately become gambling addicts when they get their first win or first loss, but if from these 2 situations beginner gamblers are still determined to bet to chase losses or chase wins, believe me, that's an early sign of addiction even though they're not 100% addicted.
perhaps of the majority of novice gamblers there are only a few who are able to control their emotions but of the majority of others they as novice gamblers fail to control their emotions or greed at the start of their gambling and several times I have found novice gamblers who often win but they continue to bet every day for get the same results and for me this is the first sign of an addicted gambler because his thinking has been dominated by winning and the happy sensation when he wins.

self control in winning is always an important role, but not everyone can control themselves when dealing with money, whereas gambling always involves money and that is the difficulty for a gambler to control himself.

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February 24, 2024, 06:56:37 PM
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Those people will become addicted with gambling who are greedy enough and consider gambling as primary source of income. But i agree with op that first game win is trap cause thus casino and gambling websites authorities try to boost gambler confidence and make them assure that, they could win more if they keep playing continuesly and thus people start playing more and more they lose. They try to recovery and so they inject more money and they lose big amount and they again try to recovery and thus this process keep continued and a gambler become addicted. Although everybody aren't same. Here I'm guessing about the facts behind addicted gamblers

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