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December 09, 2023, 05:25:46 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

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December 09, 2023, 05:42:05 PM
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I do not know why it happens this way at first gambling there is a better percentage of people who made profits and this leads to excitement that will in time affect the gambler as he will want to get involved more and more and even stake with higher amount as he feels he did it the first time and looks it as being so much easy.

There are set of people who take this gambling as a means of survival and this set of people are said to be addict and can hardly detect when to stop. One should be wise and have self control, know when to cross the line and understand the gambling system very well before indulging in them. As you made mention, gamble with an amount you can bear to loss, not loan money or the one carry out your cost of living

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December 09, 2023, 05:44:40 PM
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I don't think casinos offer better chances at winning at first. If that was the case it could be exploited easily.
If someone wants to be certain that his rolls are fair and worries too much of things like this, then he can gamble on probably fair casino games.

I think the more realistic issue with luring in players is how easy it is to win on no-stake rolls and fun token rolls. In non provably fair games this can be a real issue.

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December 09, 2023, 05:46:07 PM
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If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

Your observation that the main reason why people become gambling addicts is because they see gambling as a major source of income. The belief that they can earn a living through gambling motivates them to keep gambling until they lose control. You are also correct OP that until these people perceive gambling as entertainment and don't depend on it for survival, they might end up becoming addicted.

I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

I also commented on the thread you are referring to, but what the author of that thread talked about was how a first win could entice first-time gamblers. However this might not be the main cause of gambling addiction because they will learn within a short period that it is not possible to win consistently. But I think what the author was trying to highlight is that newbies shouldn't be deceived by first wins because gambling is an unpredictable terrain.

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December 09, 2023, 05:57:42 PM
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Being addicted is only in the mind. There are just gamblers who are taking it seriously until they struggle to fight its itch. Win or lose in the first, people will play to make quick cash.

I don't know if it's a trap but I chased my loss that's why I ended up continuing and losing more. And it was just a few Dogecoin. This was the first time I gambled in a crypto casino too this was the dice on an exchange site.

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December 09, 2023, 06:06:37 PM
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I got your point and I agree that it's dangerous, and the main reason for this is: User will think it's easy to win. And he will go all the way dow with this mind set.

And the fun part is, most of the newbies win in their first run, some people call it the newbies luck, even users can try this theory, open an account on any new casino for you, then play 10 spins/slot, and you will win before the next 100 rolls.

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December 09, 2023, 06:07:38 PM
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Gamblers should not believe in first game win trap
Experts conducted research that 80% of basic gamblers are trapped in the main win, thus making them addicted and losing a lot of money in the gambling arena. The first winning trap trick has been used for centuries by online and offline casinos.

Human nature is generally greedy, curious and ambitious, where they first gamble and win, the desire to increase their balance for a second win is strong, not knowing that they have fallen into a trap and lost everything.

My advice is to gamble without prioritizing emotions and greed, consider all gambling activities carefully, the first win is the beginning of suffering, so gamble without greed.

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December 09, 2023, 06:25:09 PM
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Conceiving the idea of only making a profit from gambling is a problem some people have. First of all, the primary reason for gambling should not be to only win; the gambler should also have it in their mind that they will win, lose, and catch some money. Gambling is sweeter like that, like knowing what you are actually in for. If you are only in for profit, you will not always be happy any time you lose, and the person might fall into the trap of their first win. This time around, it seems the majority of new gamblers are only gambling because they want to make a profit, and like the OP said, it would be only a few gamblers that probably won on their first bet on the first day they started gambling.

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Poor economic conditions along with weak finances can be one of the factors that become a big push why they continue to stick to gambling, especially if in the initial session of involvement they managed to get a win, they think that it seems like gambling is a solution to improve their finances that are not doing well, when in reality the first win is nothing more than something that can make them always come with high hopes of getting a win like before.

This is gambling where the end result is always unpredictable and only depends on how lucky you are at the time, so apply the understanding to yourself that there is no end result that can always make you smile, stay alert and be careful, everything that looks tempting in gambling is nothing more than a trap that can make you fall into a hole of endless problems.

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There are set of people who take this gambling as a means of survival and this set of people are said to be addict and can hardly detect when to stop.
Not that they take gambling as a means of survival, they wanted to take gambling as a means of survival and they start to lose and gambling does nity become a way as a means of survive but become miserable for them.

Poor economic conditions along with weak finances can be one of the factors that become a big push why they continue to stick to gambling
From research, rich countries like USA and China spend more on gambling than in poor countries. An addict can be poor or rich.

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If you win your first bet in some gambling platforms and it happens to most of the people who gambles for the first time in the platform, that platform is rigged. They are trying to manipulate beginners into thinking that they provide more wins than other platform. And it is also true that first win can trigger a sensation or some rush to gamble more but it is not necessarily the major factor for people becoming addicted to gambling.
Gambling is totally best on luck and if you win your first time then maybe you are lucky. And if you lose, luck is not on your side. If you enjoy gambling and you do it responsibly, do not overthink this too much. Everything that you won or lose is based on your luck. Except whatever you get as you can't change it.
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I do not know why it happens this way at first gambling there is a better percentage of people who made profits and this leads to excitement that will in time affect the gambler as he will want to get involved more and more and even stake with higher amount as he feels he did it the first time and looks it as being so much easy.

Yeah, they call it beginner's luck for a reason.  This whole thing happens 'cause newbie gamblers dont really get how risky it all is, so they're way more likely to throw down some wild bets without thinking too hard about losing it all and  they just figure they can beat the house, not realizing those cards are stacked against them from the start.   

I mean unless the games are rigged to let the new folks win a little extra at first - kinda like dangling a carrot so they bet bigger next round.  But that'd be pretty sketchy, right?

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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.
But what is the major reason why people gamble aside from the fun that they derive from it. I don't think if you remove fun out of why people gamble, there would be anything else aside from the monetary gain. So it will be surprising to expect people to gamble without expecting a win or to wish that a gambler lose in his first time trying to gamble. I think the euphoria that comes with gambling is untimely and it can always spring up at anytime a gambler wins a game, not necessarily his First time. That's why someone can win a gamble today, lose and be sad tomorrow, then win again and be extremely happy as if they were never sad about it . It is because the joy and happiness that comes with winning a gamble is untimely and always side by side with the situation the gambler finds themselves.

Overall, I think people gamble for the thrill that is in the risk of the game, the excitement that comes with winning a gamble, the monetary gain, entertainment, the socialisation, and sometimes to even escape depression. Some people gamble only when they are depressed and when they win , it brings that joy innate in them but the risk is that if they lose, they can become more depressed and hostile. The last reason I can think off is that, people gamble for the sake of solving their financial needs or crisis as oftentimes seen in students cases.

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A gambler with a first win and you say danger? I agree.
It is difficult to first change the mindset about gambling because they have never experienced a losing streak, but with the first win their mindset is only one if playing again he has confidence will win and think it is easy to win in a game then it is quite dangerous.

Still the first gambling person will find it difficult to say that gambling is just for fun and burning money, their goal is definitely to make money in gambling otherwise they will not play because they will not be interested especially for the first time trying.

Because there is money in the game, they are willing to risk any money to win this is more like an addiction.

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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

To be fair, if we separate gambling from betting, I would dare to say that sportbetting can be an actual way to make money if one knows what is going on and how to handle risk. In the other hand, gambling is deffirent from betting, the user has little to no control over the outcome over the result of the gambling session. Even though what you say makes relatively good sense, I still believe that the first win of a novice gambler can enhance their desire to continue to wager money further. If a novice gambler, on the other hand, had a lossing first experience in a casino, I believe it would be less likely for them to continue to gamble.

I do not manage the statistics, though. So I could be completely wrong.


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December 09, 2023, 07:27:20 PM
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first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.
Gamble with the money you can lose.
Of course yes, gambling addictions can be triggered at both sides either at top or bottom of intolerable lost which the gambler is desperate for his bets recovery and while on the context, he is liable to more losts. And the gambler further tends to continues betting sometimes incoherently and imbalanced to apply logical predictions due to the pressures of his lost.
This is state of time is tantamount to gambling addictions

Also, it could be a linger of winning definitely the gamblers inability to control his winning excitement. Here the mindsets of the gambler could be that yeah, I am w lucky gambler and he would want to keep betting hoping to win as like the other time(s).
Sometimes his desperacies of more winning may either earn him more winning or lost at it all but rest assured that he just want to keep betting and maintain a profitable winning level while then his urge of urgency is aroused and nurtured to addictions.

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December 09, 2023, 07:29:52 PM
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I have believed that,  there is where the gambler's luck is,  in the sense that, sometimes when you gamble at a particular casino,  you tend to have higher luck than the other and this has been my experience in some few casinos before say on stake where I gamble most,  from the beginning,  I have always had a good luck start-up right from my very first game I was able to win and even though I have recorded some loses,  but still believe that I have high luck on stake than other casinos.

But also I have experienced some other casinos,  where I gambled for several times now, but all ended in losses and I began to believe that my luck was not in that casino.
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

That's right, this casino trick works not only on players who came right away, but also on long-time players who were unlucky at the beginning, but continued to play and play. I mean that a big win can destroy the self-control of even an experienced player.

Today I watched an interview about such a guy, and I felt very sorry for him. The point was that he stuck to his strategy and was successful. But then he won x30 and in the end he lost all that money. It turns out that the casino does not pay such large winnings immediately, but in parts. It is possible for the player to lose all the money before he sees it.

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December 09, 2023, 07:38:11 PM
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What I experienced when I first started gambling was that I was not given a win and often I lost, and the win that I got was a process and the win happened in the long term.
However, the first thing I feel in gambling is curiosity, and when I lose I feel curious and hope that on the next bet I will win. And when I win I feel addicted and keep betting in the hope that on the next bet I will win again, and these two things make me continue gambling where actually after I realize I lose more than I win.
But that has passed and has become a lesson for me and now I just gamble for fun with sufficient capital with a little hope that luck will come. If I'm unlucky, and the little capital I have prepared runs out, then I stop.

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December 09, 2023, 07:43:40 PM
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

That's right, this casino trick works not only on players who came right away, but also on long-time players who were unlucky at the beginning, but continued to play and play. I mean that a big win can destroy the self-control of even an experienced player.

Today I watched an interview about such a guy, and I felt very sorry for him. The point was that he stuck to his strategy and was successful. But then he won x30 and in the end he lost all that money. It turns out that the casino does not pay such large winnings immediately, but in parts. It is possible for the player to lose all the money before he sees it.

if i can't withdraw the whole amount i would just gradually do it like their TOS. sounds not legal. but he because he came back and played the casino claimed back what he won. the casino did it successfully. he was tricked.

continuous exposure to casinos is more of a choice it's no wonder many of us keep discussing this addiction, maybe they are indeed addicted since they keep discussing it.
since we keep busy in this forum all the time, we are exposed to casinos.









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