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December 19, 2023, 04:54:57 PM |
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Absolutely agree with you guys. I don't understand people who demean women before men. Yes, I understand that some of these people follow their religion, but it seems to me that following such religions in the 21st century is absurd. In my understanding women should have all the same privileges as men, not only in entertainment, but also in other spheres of life, because they are an integral part of the process thanks to which mankind has not yet died out.
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December 19, 2023, 05:07:23 PM |
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Absolutely agree with you guys. I don't understand people who demean women before men. Yes, I understand that some of these people follow their religion, but it seems to me that following such religions in the 21st century is absurd. In my understanding women should have all the same privileges as men, not only in entertainment, but also in other spheres of life, because they are an integral part of the process thanks to which mankind has not yet died out.
It's not entirely because of religious rules, but culture also needs to be considered. All countries have their own cultural rules, this could also be a cause. However, in terms of privileges, I think almost all countries apply the same privileges. Except for those related to culture and religion. We can see now, everyone, both men and woman, can gamble, work or whatever they want. There is nothing wrong with this rule. Rules not made by the government often take precedence over. for example, in certain areas men and women still differentiate in terms of privileges, including not being allowed to gamble, then I think that does not mean they do not fulfill the right to be free, but just following the culture rules.
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December 19, 2023, 05:16:38 PM |
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Why does it feel like it's the wrong choice to choose both of them to quit, it's not even the options. It's weird that the best course of action in this scenario is not mentioned at all, feels like OP is trying to create a discussion that already has an obvious answer but at the same time OP isn't satisfied with the answer and ends up trying to create an artificial division. This in my opinion is one of the questions that aren't worthy of long discussions because it's not a good question and there's an easy answer.
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December 19, 2023, 05:27:09 PM |
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Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.
In a situation where the both spouse are gamblers. Husband gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.
Would it help if one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.
Has it gotten to this stage where gambling is now a debate for couples, who should take care of the home and who should do the house chores and take of the children. I will drop my opinion as a western man and like an African person. In the west, responsibilities of the children is all on the hand of both parent, the kids need their dad and also their mom, it is not about who is doing the money everyday but priority comes more to who is earning less because that is the person that is will be having free time and look after the kids but the mom must always be available for the basic needs of the kids, is not the work of man to be doing domestic chores and cooking all the time particularly if he is a bad cook, but I'm not sure if gambling is even a career to debate this because I don't know if gambling is going to take the whole days of the parent. An African man doesn't need to say this twice, it is the responsibility of the man to provide and it is that of the woman to look after the home but if he is doing something extra, fine but she has to look after the kids but still, she need to look after the children and not the man because more of the responsibilities is on his shoulder.
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December 19, 2023, 06:45:43 PM |
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I don't know how many people here who've seen or rather listened to the new Eminem Juice World song, but it reminds me of gambling and gambling responsibly. Juice World famously and sadly died of drug OD a few years ago now, and Em famously had a drug issue for years. So it's a song of responsibility (rare in the Hip Hop genre). It sort of reminds me of this...if you can do it responsibly then great, if not..you shouldnt be gambling at all.
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December 19, 2023, 08:10:05 PM |
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If they are both able to earn their own money, I think they can both continue to gamble. They can also share household expenses. I think there is a possibility that both of them might get out of control, but it is not a sure thing, and both of them can manage to act responsibly. I don't think it's right to have prejudiced thoughts against this imaginary couple. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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December 19, 2023, 08:22:27 PM |
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Obviously the wife has to quit gambling. The husband has the responsibility to provide money for the family so it is understandable that he goes into gambling to meet up with the family needs. On the hand the wife's responsibility is to grow and care for the family. Am still wondering how women who are into gambling tend to mix family responsibilities with gambling. After looking out for the kids, prepare meal for the family, do the dishes and make preparations for the next day. They still have time to gamble. Such a woman is strong and i do not have any issue with women in gambling. Am just saying that the both of them should not be gambling at least there should be one who will help manage the other from being addicted.
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December 19, 2023, 10:50:24 PM |
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If they are both able to earn their own money, I think they can both continue to gamble. They can also share household expenses. I think there is a possibility that both of them might get out of control, but it is not a sure thing, and both of them can manage to act responsibly. I don't think it's right to have prejudiced thoughts against this imaginary couple. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Well, I find this very difficult to resolve. We cannot force a person to quit gambling. While we are gambling. If economic conditions are good and both people know how to control themselves in gambling and have a lot of free time. Both could use some time to gamble. If either of the people has an addiction and a difficult economic situation, I think both should quit gambling. We cannot gamble in front of people who are addicted to gambling, and they will not be able to go through rehab.
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December 19, 2023, 11:09:17 PM |
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If they are both able to earn their own money, I think they can both continue to gamble. They can also share household expenses. I think there is a possibility that both of them might get out of control, but it is not a sure thing, and both of them can manage to act responsibly. I don't think it's right to have prejudiced thoughts against this imaginary couple. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Yes but the problem is that they act in gambling and not other activities that really give certainty to earn, even though for example they already have a pretty good plan on financial management and gambling but on the other hand honestly I don't really agree if there are people who say that "it's okay to continue gambling" after all this is gambling which is nothing more than luck that can make them get results to divide the expenses of family needs. Honestly, I am one of the former active gamblers and I have my reasons why I prefer the couple to quit, we have to know that we are human beings and gambling involves things in the human mind such as hopes, expectations, emotions, I am not sure they will really be able to apply self-control and family bankroll management very firmly when both of them are overcome by emotions due to losing, isn't it possible for the couple to act out of control? Obviously, the most difficult thing for human beings to do is when they have to restrain their emotions not to vent, not only in gambling but also in other problems in real life is also the same, the difficulty of managing emotions that eventually act out of control.
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December 19, 2023, 11:30:46 PM |
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If they are both able to earn their own money, I think they can both continue to gamble. They can also share household expenses. I think there is a possibility that both of them might get out of control, but it is not a sure thing, and both of them can manage to act responsibly. I don't think it's right to have prejudiced thoughts against this imaginary couple. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Well, I find this very difficult to resolve. We cannot force a person to quit gambling. While we are gambling. If economic conditions are good and both people know how to control themselves in gambling and have a lot of free time. Both could use some time to gamble. If either of the people has an addiction and a difficult economic situation, I think both should quit gambling. We cannot gamble in front of people who are addicted to gambling, and they will not be able to go through rehab. So if both hold tight to gambling while nobody quitting, then what view do you think the society will see such family where both husband and wife are gamblers? Because one true fact that remain is that no matter how both tries to gamble responsibly, inasmuch as both keeps gambling and happens to have children, there is a higher tendency they having one child who is an addictive and chronic gambler, which is the least thing any parent will ever want from his/her child. Hence, one quitting will go a long way curing such menace. But unless if we are talking about a moderate gambler who do not gamblers all ways, but if we mean full-time gamblers, then both parties are not suitable to be husband and wife.
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December 19, 2023, 11:34:33 PM |
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Why does it feel like it's the wrong choice to choose both of them to quit, it's not even the options. It's weird that the best course of action in this scenario is not mentioned at all, feels like OP is trying to create a discussion that already has an obvious answer but at the same time OP isn't satisfied with the answer and ends up trying to create an artificial division. This in my opinion is one of the questions that aren't worthy of long discussions because it's not a good question and there's an easy answer.
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December 19, 2023, 11:36:03 PM |
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Both husband and wife gambles? They need to be careful about their kid because children learn from both parents. So whatever you do or say, your children will listen and copy these behavior. With that said, the last thing you ever want to do is have your young son or daughter start talking about gambling or whatsoever at such an age. Considering that, both parents may need to stop gambling and focus on bringing up their children in a better way and environment.
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December 19, 2023, 11:52:06 PM |
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Obviously the wife has to quit gambling. The husband has the responsibility to provide money for the family (...)
100% agree (...) so it is understandable that he goes into gambling to meet up with the family needs.
You lost me here. Big time. If a man resorts to gambling to provide for a family, he's neither a husband nor father material. With the exception of maybe professional poker players etc, but I consider that to be a skill game, not gambling. Am still wondering how women who are into gambling tend to mix family responsibilities with gambling. After looking out for the kids, prepare meal for the family, do the dishes and make preparations for the next day. They still have time to gamble.
Most women not only don't gamble at all, but they have oftentimes an unreasonable aversion to gambling. But those who do would likely pick up some quick, online slot games, which you could play anytime on your phone, so doesn't require any massive time commitment.
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December 20, 2023, 09:07:28 AM |
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Obviously the wife has to quit gambling. The husband has the responsibility to provide money for the family (...)
100% agree I agree that husbands must be the main money makers in the family, but what if gambling is not about providing money? If gambling is a job, then it is still discussible, but if it having fun, simply spending time, then why women should stand aside? That's how it was in society century ago, men gamble, women stand behind and support. What you agree to is some kind of a stereotype. If we see women smoking, we already gave her a negative tag. Tattoos women body looks amoral. It was all in past. Modern world if different. Like I've posted, if it is not about religion, then there is an equality in gambling.
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December 20, 2023, 10:28:41 AM |
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Absolutely agree with you guys. I don't understand people who demean women before men. Yes, I understand that some of these people follow their religion, but it seems to me that following such religions in the 21st century is absurd. In my understanding women should have all the same privileges as men, not only in entertainment, but also in other spheres of life, because they are an integral part of the process thanks to which mankind has not yet died out. Don't take it too far, I don't think that anyone will be demeaning women for them to do the right thing. The responsibility of the woman when it comes to taking care of the house and family is way more than that of men and men are mostly known mainly for the money provision and support they give to the family. Especially with the children, the mother connects and spends more time with them than most men, this is why women in most cases sacrifice something even if no one is forcing them to do so. But in some cases, if the couples are irresponsible, I don't even expect anyone to sacrifice for another but for them both to entirely quit gambling one way or the other for the sake of the family. But if they are not such irresponsible gamblers, I would say that it is a good thing that they keep their gambling habits because it is not a big deal to me as long as it doesn't affect their responsible way of life and it is not taking their time uncontrollably. But if the two still insist that one must quit, I believe that the one with the highest responsibility at home and to the children should sacrifice it for the other.
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December 20, 2023, 10:52:08 AM |
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If they are both able to earn their own money, I think they can both continue to gamble. They can also share household expenses. I think there is a possibility that both of them might get out of control, but it is not a sure thing, and both of them can manage to act responsibly. I don't think it's right to have prejudiced thoughts against this imaginary couple. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Well, I find this very difficult to resolve. We cannot force a person to quit gambling. While we are gambling. If economic conditions are good and both people know how to control themselves in gambling and have a lot of free time. Both could use some time to gamble. If either of the people has an addiction and a difficult economic situation, I think both should quit gambling. We cannot gamble in front of people who are addicted to gambling, and they will not be able to go through rehab. Let them determine their own path in life, meaning whether they are good or bad at gambling, they are the ones who judge and if a husband and wife enter the world of gambling and they enjoy it and it doesn't even become a burden on their family then what's wrong with them gambling?? And it must always be remembered that husband and wife as gamblers must cover up this behavior as much as possible in front of their children so that their children do not follow in their parents' footsteps. However, gambling is a bad behavior in life and not everyone can control themselves well when gambling. If a husband and wife are already gambling, enjoy it together and maintain good control and always be careful in every gambling game they play.
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Jody.Drummer
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December 20, 2023, 11:40:49 AM |
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Well, I find this very difficult to resolve. We cannot force a person to quit gambling. While we are gambling. If economic conditions are good and both people know how to control themselves in gambling and have a lot of free time. Both could use some time to gamble. If either of the people has an addiction and a difficult economic situation, I think both should quit gambling. We cannot gamble in front of people who are addicted to gambling, and they will not be able to go through rehab.
Let them determine their own path in life, meaning whether they are good or bad at gambling, they are the ones who judge and if a husband and wife enter the world of gambling and they enjoy it and it doesn't even become a burden on their family then what's wrong with them gambling?? And it must always be remembered that husband and wife as gamblers must cover up this behavior as much as possible in front of their children so that their children do not follow in their parents' footsteps. However, gambling is a bad behavior in life and not everyone can control themselves well when gambling. If a husband and wife are already gambling, enjoy it together and maintain good control and always be careful in every gambling game they play. If we are referring to the sense of care between people then yes maybe I would also say the same thing as you in the sense of allowing them to continue gambling and without giving any best advice, but don't we have a humane sense, if we realize that in fact the whole activity is not recommended then why don't we give them a little advice and understanding that is straight and true? Honestly, I can't help but care about everyone whether it's my friends, relatives or even strangers, especially if they are married, which means they have full responsibility for the finances in their family, especially in terms of balancing so that everything can remain fine. Sometimes people who have a goal to have fun are very likely to enter the addiction phase unconsciously and experience problems with their finances, well even if the couple considers gambling as entertainment but still the risks are always unavoidable and one of them is like what I said that it is possible that over time they end up with addiction, you have also said that not everyone can control themselves and emotions in gambling, isn't that also very likely to be experienced by this couple and then they experience problems with family finances? It's basically everyone's right, but certainly hopefully they can change their point of view to be more realistic so that they can consider anything correctly.
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December 20, 2023, 01:02:23 PM |
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So if both hold tight to gambling while nobody quitting, then what view do you think the society will see such family where both husband and wife are gamblers? Because one true fact that remain is that no matter how both tries to gamble responsibly, inasmuch as both keeps gambling and happens to have children, there is a higher tendency they having one child who is an addictive and chronic gambler, which is the least thing any parent will ever want from his/her child. Hence, one quitting will go a long way curing such menace.
But unless if we are talking about a moderate gambler who do not gamblers all ways, but if we mean full-time gamblers, then both parties are not suitable to be husband and wife.
I think it's awkward. 2 Husband and wife are both people who like to gamble, and they see gambling as an entertaining game. The best solution is for them to teach children from a young age to know about gambling knowledge. Guide children towards healthy gambling in the future. Because even if you ban children, they will learn about gambling later because gambling is now widely advertised online. Teaching them about healthy gambling is probably a safer way.
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December 20, 2023, 02:39:48 PM |
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I think it's awkward. 2 Husband and wife are both people who like to gamble, and they see gambling as an entertaining game. The best solution is for them to teach children from a young age to know about gambling knowledge. Guide children towards healthy gambling in the future. Because even if you ban children, they will learn about gambling later because gambling is now widely advertised online. Teaching them about healthy gambling is probably a safer way. There is nothing strange in the fact that this is what happens, although morally we rarely see this condition occur in one couple who are involved in gambling simultaneously. If the view of gambling that they carry out is only as entertainment and involved responsibly then in my opinion it is not a problem because I am sure if that is the scenario they will definitely be able to overcome financial problems and not get involved excessively. There are rarely parents who intend to teach their children about gambling and in almost many places I visit there are no parents who are willing to teach their children about gambling because this is not the right choice for them.
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December 20, 2023, 02:56:18 PM |
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If they are both able to earn their own money, I think they can both continue to gamble. They can also share household expenses. I think there is a possibility that both of them might get out of control, but it is not a sure thing, and both of them can manage to act responsibly. I don't think it's right to have prejudiced thoughts against this imaginary couple. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) There’s no point in even thinking about the fact that sooner or later their joint activities will get out of control. And I hope you understand perfectly well that the consequences for both will be incredibly sad. Not only will they lose all their money, but they will also go into debt that they will not be able to pay off due to their gambling addiction. I went through this myself and I never want to go back to it. I had a very hard time getting out of debt.
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