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December 14, 2023, 02:58:53 PM
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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Dude won about $5000 which looks like a huge amount of money. He didn't actualize anything with it but felt he could double, triple or quadruple the money but ended up losing everything to bookies. I guess he must have ran into debts trying to see if he could be lucky again, but since the luck wasn't forth coming he decided to report him self.

Crazy things what gambling can make one do. His action could be said to be heroic or foolish, depending on what he does afterwards with his life. If he's able to pick up himself, stay away from gambling and become more financially prudent, then he's a hero but if he's just whining, regretting his losses and actions, then he's foolish.
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December 14, 2023, 03:14:40 PM
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each person may be different in dealing with their addiction, there are people who limit themselves or self-exclude like he did, where a gambler for whatever reason comes to the gaming commission to get themselves banned. what he did needs to be appreciated because he consciously came to the gaming commission because he realized he was already addicted to gambling and didn't want to stay in it any longer.

It's a lot more better when you realize on your own that you're addicted and that it's already destroying you and could do worse if not handled in time, and then you're working and putting more effort towards fighting his addiction, that way there's absolutely nothing you can't do just to make sure you kill the addiction. Some gamblers are so addicted to gambling but yet they do not acknowledge it and even when you as a friend try to advice them and maybe try to offer help to them, they feel offended for some reason. So I think it's good the guy acknowledged that he was addicted and took such a heroic action towards killing his addiction.

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December 14, 2023, 03:37:28 PM
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If the addiction becomes strong, you can always change the name or take a friend with you. It is easier to hire someone to give a frying pan to the head if in response to the question "where did you go?", this person hears something about casinos.

And what happens if the winnings turn out to be 1 million dollars.
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December 14, 2023, 03:37:41 PM
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I probably won't do the same thing he did but I'd most likely look for other ways to stop my addiction, I mean, there are better ways to overcome addiction without risking yourself from being prosecuted. anyway, if the story is true, I'm glad it worked for him, I don't even know if what he said is possible, I mean I know you can do it on an online casino but I am not sure if it is possible on physical casinos.
Agree with you mate there are a lot of ways to overcome addiction's there are a lot of things who can help us away in addiction all we need is a dedication and self control then for sure that addict will overcome snd leave gambling for the rest of his/her life anyways nowadays there are a lot of people who are addicted in gambling and that's the reason why there are many new gambling sites was created.

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December 14, 2023, 04:48:42 PM
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I always find it a bit odd when people have to do things like get themselves banned in order to fight a habit. Is it really that difficult to control your own actions? I understand people get addicted to things, but having to go this far in order to get others to keep your habit in check rather than just controlling your own behavior seems odd to me.

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December 14, 2023, 04:58:54 PM
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For some, it was when they started losing big, is the main cause of their addiction. But this guy here is the opposite. He go back thinking he can win big again but he later realized that it was only a trap prepared by the casinos. I know we can ban our selves in the casino but it's also my first time hearing what he did there of banning himself in the gaming commission.

It was a like a global ban which is a much better solution if we are experiencing a severe gambling problem. He needs to ensure that he can't win big, so he will be forced to bet tiny amounts this time, (which is fine), only to enjoy gambling because totally removing it in our life is very hard. But this guy here still did it after some time. I guess that is even better.

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December 14, 2023, 05:54:01 PM
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Haven't you heard of self-exclusion in gambling?

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What is self-exclusion?
Self-exclusion means asking one or multiple gambling companies to prevent you from gambling with them for a set length of time, usually between 6 months and 5 years. This means you will not be able to gamble within their venue, or via their website or app. Gambling companies must offer you the option to self-exclude by law.

https://www.begambleaware.org/self-exclusion

So yes, you can do go to the gaming commission and ask yourself to be ban. I know a guy that has been banned, but he didn't do it himself, his wife did. The wife call the casinos and describe his husband and obviously his identification.

And then he told me that he was surprised when he go to a casino and that he was stop and was banned from entering. Later he found out that his wife is the one responsible because that time he was really addicted to that point that he is playing money that did not belong to him (he was a government employee that time).

I did not know that you could self-exclude other people. But perhaps in the case of a husband and wife they are legally seen as having the same bank account or something? His wife obviously really cares about him, otherwise she would have just left without much ado. But instead of picking the simpler option of leaving, she decided to help him out with his addiction. That seems to be a heart warming relationship. He is a very lucky man.

Self exclusion is a really good system.

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December 14, 2023, 06:20:05 PM
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Self exclusion as others have mentioned. Well it might sound hard to some but it is a valid thing to do especially if it is by his own will or for his own good. Not all people have the initiative to impose self discipline to oneself. To some, cutting the connection or closing the door, is the only way they could restrict oneself from a particular thing. Casinos won't voluntarily do that simply because it would be a loss of customer to them. However if the question is would I be doing the same thing, then the answer is it depends.  If I am not being able to function on a daily basis, then I probably would also do it. But if it is from others then it is just a thing to consider 'coz you know yourself more than anyone else. If you will be left with no choice then you'd be the one to engage with adjustment.
I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I always find it a bit odd when people have to do things like get themselves banned in order to fight a habit. Is it really that difficult to control your own actions? I understand people get addicted to things, but having to go this far in order to get others to keep your habit in check rather than just controlling your own behavior seems odd to me.
Well yes, in some instances there are people who cannot themselves.We are different from one another, we could also make the changes or have our own preferences as well. If those who are getting addicted to this industry are not having the resources to quit something in a proper way,then they often create their solution right away.

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December 14, 2023, 08:12:43 PM
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each person may be different in dealing with their addiction, there are people who limit themselves or self-exclude like he did, where a gambler for whatever reason comes to the gaming commission to get themselves banned. what he did needs to be appreciated because he consciously came to the gaming commission because he realized he was already addicted to gambling and didn't want to stay in it any longer.

It's a lot more better when you realize on your own that you're addicted and that it's already destroying you and could do worse if not handled in time, and then you're working and putting more effort towards fighting his addiction, that way there's absolutely nothing you can't do just to make sure you kill the addiction. Some gamblers are so addicted to gambling but yet they do not acknowledge it and even when you as a friend try to advice them and maybe try to offer help to them, they feel offended for some reason. So I think it's good the guy acknowledged that he was addicted and took such a heroic action towards killing his addiction.
Self-awareness and the ability to recognize and acknowledge addiction are indeed critical steps toward recovery. Nothing is more valuable than doing something positive by your own pure intention. It takes great strength and courage to confront one's own challenges and take proactive measures to address them. it is indeed a heroic action, when a gambler realizes that an addiction is having a detrimental impact on their life, and they actively work towards overcoming it.

Some people may indeed be deeply entrenched in their addiction and may not be receptive to advice or help, even from the closest ones. People may respond defensively when confronted with the reality of their situation, because addiction can be a sensitive and complex issue. But acceptance opens the door to various support circle, whether through friends, family, or professional help, that can aid in the recovery process.

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December 14, 2023, 08:23:56 PM
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Self exclusion as others have mentioned. Well it might sound hard to some but it is a valid thing to do especially if it is by his own will or for his own good. Not all people have the initiative to impose self discipline to oneself. To some, cutting the connection or closing the door, is the only way they could restrict oneself from a particular thing. Casinos won't voluntarily do that simply because it would be a loss of customer to them. However if the question is would I be doing the same thing, then the answer is it depends.  If I am not being able to function on a daily basis, then I probably would also do it. But if it is from others then it is just a thing to consider 'coz you know yourself more than anyone else. If you will be left with no choice then you'd be the one to engage with adjustment.
I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I always find it a bit odd when people have to do things like get themselves banned in order to fight a habit. Is it really that difficult to control your own actions? I understand people get addicted to things, but having to go this far in order to get others to keep your habit in check rather than just controlling your own behavior seems odd to me.
Well yes, in some instances there are people who cannot themselves.We are different from one another, we could also make the changes or have our own preferences as well. If those who are getting addicted to this industry are not having the resources to quit something in a proper way,then they often create their solution right away.
Some said that self exclusion is really that somewhat pointless or useless but if the site or platform does have this kind of feature then we cant really say that there would be no gamblers would really be making use of such feature on which we do know that it would really be something that might be helpful into some gamblers but somewhat its true that if you are really that liking to quit or getting yourself that get rid towards
gambling then you wont really be needing up these kind of things but if you do really find yourself having that kind of problem on which you cant really be able to resist then you would really be finding
these things to be something relevant and we cant really be able to avoid that there would really be always something to say by peo0le around.

Self exclusions could neither be effective or not, as long its been there or such feature then its up to us whether we would really be making use of it or not. Just make it sure that you would
really be that responsible all of the time when it comes gambling activity because this is where people do usually mess up on the time that they are making themselves that
being too delusional and thing that we could really make ourselves that getting rich with gambling which we know that it cant be that possible or would be so easy.

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December 15, 2023, 08:09:44 AM
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Never heard this one. Wow something new. I say he is a fool for making such a decision but I think that he is a hero for overcoming his gambling addiction. It's not something one can get rid of in an overnight. So I what he did can be considered as an act of heroism. I know because I have been there. Those who were an addict at a time knows the feeling. Judging one person from a distance can be very easy. But when one actually go through this only then he knows how hard it is.
It is easy to get addicted to something but it is very difficult to get back from addiction to normal life. Those who have once been addicted to drugs and have recovered from that addiction know how difficult the challenge is. We may be good in that we do not do drugs or we are not addicted to drugs and therefore we cannot understand how difficult it is for a person to recover from drug addiction. I was addicted to gambling so I can imagine how hard it is to get back into a normal life. Ever since I felt that I needed to go back to a normal life I tried and made up my mind a lot even though I failed several times to get back to a normal gambling life but I didn't give up and I managed to get out of there. If there are people around us who are addicted to gambling or drugs and they want to return to normal life we should help them to return to normal life.

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December 15, 2023, 01:34:53 PM
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Your interest in this story is reasonable! Many places have self-exclusion programs for gambling and addiction. These systems let people voluntarily prohibit themselves from casinos, which takes courage and self-control. Recognizing limits and taking action is key. I know sports betting and psychology well enough to say that addiction can be overwhelming. Stimulated by possible wins, the brain's reward system hijacks rational decision-making. Do I suggest this method? If it's available and you're addicted to gambling, yes. Gambling can have emotional and psychological consequences in addition to money losses. Self-exclusion is like a safety net - it catches you when you fall. Reclaiming control over one's life is brave and respectable. It's about mental health and wellbeing, not simply money. If you or someone you know is addicted to gambling, consider comparable options. Isn't peace of mind worth more than a jackpot?

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December 16, 2023, 02:46:02 AM
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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
Dude won about $5000 which looks like a huge amount of money. He didn't actualize anything with it but felt he could double, triple or quadruple the money but ended up losing everything to bookies. I guess he must have ran into debts trying to see if he could be lucky again, but since the luck wasn't forth coming he decided to report him self.

Crazy things what gambling can make one do. His action could be said to be heroic or foolish, depending on what he does afterwards with his life. If he's able to pick up himself, stay away from gambling and become more financially prudent, then he's a hero but if he's just whining, regretting his losses and actions, then he's foolish.
No matter where he ends up in life, the step he has taken for what he did to himself is a heroic step without a doubt because a lot of people wouldn't do that, not because they can't do it but because they don't have that much courage and self-control so that they can control themselves after they do that. If you know that you can't stop gambling and you will find some way to gamble anyway, there is no point in getting banned or blacklisted from casinos around the city or country.

With online gambling platforms on the rise, this has become even rare. After all, even if a gambler does get himself banned or restricted on a certain platform, they will head to another platform once they feels the urge to gamble and cannot control it because they know there are a lot of options available.

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December 16, 2023, 04:01:28 AM
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Never heard this one. Wow something new. I say he is a fool for making such a decision but I think that he is a hero for overcoming his gambling addiction. It's not something one can get rid of in an overnight. So I what he did can be considered as an act of heroism. I know because I have been there. Those who were an addict at a time knows the feeling. Judging one person from a distance can be very easy. But when one actually go through this only then he knows how hard it is.
It is easy to get addicted to something but it is very difficult to get back from addiction to normal life. Those who have once been addicted to drugs and have recovered from that addiction know how difficult the challenge is. We may be good in that we do not do drugs or we are not addicted to drugs and therefore we cannot understand how difficult it is for a person to recover from drug addiction. I was addicted to gambling so I can imagine how hard it is to get back into a normal life. Ever since I felt that I needed to go back to a normal life I tried and made up my mind a lot even though I failed several times to get back to a normal gambling life but I didn't give up and I managed to get out of there. If there are people around us who are addicted to gambling or drugs and they want to return to normal life we should help them to return to normal life.

I agree with you, addiction could be easily attained by just doing things over the limit that has been already affecting them in many ways such as financially, mentally, emotionally, or even physically. However, the process of being clean would take a lot of time and seeking help from professionals. Some would literally take years even if they are that old, they would only realize that they have been eliminated from the addiction that they have. Remember that even doing just a simple thing like limiting yourself wouldn't help you overcome your addiction, it could go back to zero once you try once again while you are in the process of cleaning. I also want to say congrats on overcoming your addiction, it's not as easy as it might sound, just surround yourself with positive people who could give you a healthy lifestyle.

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December 16, 2023, 04:36:22 AM
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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
A gambler can take a break from gambling whenever he wants. If he feels that he has lost control over gambling. Then he can cancel his inclusion there at his wish. This happens often even after I started my gambling life when I lost a lot of money and I decided to ban myself from gambling when I realized that I was addicted. The site I was browsing showed me the option to self-exclude. There I can take a break from gambling for different periods or for life if I want. I asked for a permanent ban there at that time. Later when I got a desire for gambling again I was forced to start gambling on another platform.

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December 16, 2023, 05:46:29 AM
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I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
So you friend won $5,000, got addicted, lost everything he had, got himself banned from casinos in his country, and now he is still allowed to gamble but can't take home any winnings except up to $200. This seems to be the most stupidest rule I have seen. Whoever made that "law" or "rule" in your country made it in such a way that they can still take advantage of the gamblers. In other words, a predatory rule where they take advantage of gamblers. A real gambling addict would still go and gamble to that $200. Why doesn't the gaming comission just ban him for life? If he tries to enter any casino, they will just deny him access. That's it!

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December 16, 2023, 07:34:23 AM
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So you friend won $5,000, got addicted, lost everything he had, got himself banned from casinos in his country, and now he is still allowed to gamble but can't take home any winnings except up to $200. This seems to be the most stupidest rule I have seen. Whoever made that "law" or "rule" in your country made it in such a way that they can still take advantage of the gamblers. In other words, a predatory rule where they take advantage of gamblers. A real gambling addict would still go and gamble to that $200. Why doesn't the gaming comission just ban him for life? If he tries to enter any casino, they will just deny him access. That's it!

I have to agree that the rule sounds so stupid, how can he is banned but he is still allowed to gamble but he has is limited to win. I will even say that the gambling commission with such a rule is a scam because they just want to take advantage from gamblers. If the gambling commission banned him, he should not be allowed to play anymore. Such a rule has changed the real meaning of "ban". This is the first time I heard such a stupid rule, self exclusion in online casinos seems to be better although it is not effective to stop people from gambling because addicted gamblers will always find a way to gamble although they have used the self exclusion system.

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December 16, 2023, 09:37:04 AM
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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
A gambler can take a break from gambling whenever he wants. If he feels that he has lost control over gambling. Then he can cancel his inclusion there at his wish. This happens often even after I started my gambling life when I lost a lot of money and I decided to ban myself from gambling when I realized that I was addicted. The site I was browsing showed me the option to self-exclude. There I can take a break from gambling for different periods or for life if I want. I asked for a permanent ban there at that time. Later when I got a desire for gambling again I was forced to start gambling on another platform.
Taking a break from gambling is highly recommended for those who have been gambling too often. Instead of losing a lot of money and losing control of himself, it would be better for him to leave gambling for a while.
It will remind him that gambling is not something that can give him victory and earn money.
By resting, a person can reduce his gambling activities so that his mind will not think about gambling, especially if he really wants to reduce his gambling activities.
The self-exclusion feature already exists in casinos but it will not be useful if a gambler wants to keep returning to gambling as he can create another account to return to gambling.
So it's better to decide to rest for a while while thinking about really reducing your gambling activities.

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December 16, 2023, 10:10:24 AM
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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I'm not familiar with this either. I've never heard of it before. If there's something like this and I'm addicted to gambling It would not matter since Gambling is widespread in our country. In some communities, it is common to see people gambling in their homes or neighborhoods. Moreover, when someone in the community passes away, people may hold a vigil in their memory, during which gambling may happen. Self-exclusion may not be effective in stopping gambling unless you take personal responsibility to avoid it.

Overcoming gambling addiction is a difficult task, and self-exclusion doesn't always work. Despite this, he has managed to avoid it, making him a hero.
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December 16, 2023, 10:39:25 AM
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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
A gambler can take a break from gambling whenever he wants. If he feels that he has lost control over gambling. Then he can cancel his inclusion there at his wish. This happens often even after I started my gambling life when I lost a lot of money and I decided to ban myself from gambling when I realized that I was addicted. The site I was browsing showed me the option to self-exclude. There I can take a break from gambling for different periods or for life if I want. I asked for a permanent ban there at that time. Later when I got a desire for gambling again I was forced to start gambling on another platform.

It is always a wise decision like Op has done to take a break from what is not benefiting someone like in the case of Op. At least taking a break for a while is good and even if you want to come back, you would have restrategized on what you were doing wrongly earlier and fashion a way forward to it just like in your own case that you started afresh on another platform after banning yourself on the previous platform.

We need such discipline in gambling because it requires effort not to allow our sentiment becloud our sense of reasoning and not many gamblers have that kind of strong will to take a decision to ban themselves out of their gambling platform because they would keep thinking a day will come for their own winning but that may not happen, so is better to take such kind of hard decision if you are a serial loser.

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