Ben Barubal
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December 20, 2023, 10:26:54 PM |
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.
What is your take on this?
That's important because, as a gambler, you know the restrictions that an online casino has. Just in case you have a problem, you know if you have done something wrong or violated a gambling platform. That's why it becomes a problem for other gamblers that when they have a problem, they will complain in the end, and only then will they realize that the mistake or shortcoming is theirs because they did not read the TOS of the casino.
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Heartilly
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December 20, 2023, 10:34:00 PM |
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.
What is your take on this?
It's not my habit to read the terms and conditions but if it's a crypto-casino, I always look for their KYC terms. Before, when KYC was not a big deal, I rarely checked the terms of KYC on a crypto-casino but since regulators strictly mandate crypto-casinos, we should be aware of that. Good thing that there are still lots of crypto-casinos that taking KYC as not a mandatory requirement to play on the site. I appreciate those crypto-casinos that have noticed upon registration about the mandatory KYC.
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Wiwo
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December 20, 2023, 10:37:46 PM |
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Before now, I have not read the terms and conditions of some sites or services also, even when I buy new electronics I never care to read the manual, but the result of this on me has been negative because many of those times are either those electronics never work well of even get spoiled along the way, so for sure it becomes very important to read and understand all the terms of usage to have the best performance.
The same goes with gambling, it is very important to read all the terms and conditions of the casino before you register on them so that anytime you come across any issues along the way you can easily handle them to the extent of your knowledge of the casino, so this make terms and conditions very important no matter how boring it could be reading the big documents.
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Mr.suevie
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December 20, 2023, 10:57:24 PM |
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.
What is your take on this?
Even as I know how it's important to read the terms and conditions before registration in any platform be it casino or any other type of platform, I won't lie that am a victim not actually doing the readings of the terms and conditions. Well the main reason for this first would be the fact that the whole terms and conditions something are written to actually irritate the gambler and by this I mean the font and size at which some of these terms are written. While another would be the fact that most people are just too lazy to do it.
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chaser15
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December 20, 2023, 11:04:14 PM |
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I admit, no in most cases. But with lots of cases and issues where the site is issuing an account locked and banned because of violating the Terms and Conditions, I always read some parts of it. Not the whole terms but those priorities based on my view.
Here are some of the priority things that I'm looking at as Terms and Services:
- restricted countries (some gambling sites can still accessed freely and normally in restricted countries) - use of VPN or any other proxy-network program - KYC
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Onyeeze
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December 20, 2023, 11:07:02 PM |
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Myself I do take my time to read all the necessary things concerning a casino gambling instructions before I can as well do anything in accordance with any platform, because when you don't take your time to read the gambling site instructions won't be able to understand the measure of the platform, so therefore for we to understand the platform very we what we needed is to take our time to go through the terms and conditions of the platform, so many people have challenges of platform due to what they have in mind is not to engage in a kyc verification whereas the terms and conditions of the platform demands kyc, so after everything they began to have issues with the site
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Docnaster
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December 20, 2023, 11:08:00 PM |
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.
What is your take on this?
Even as I know how it's important to read the terms and conditions before registration in any platform be it casino or any other type of platform, I won't lie that am a victim not actually doing the readings of the terms and conditions. Well the main reason for this first would be the fact that the whole terms and conditions something are written to actually irritate the gambler and by this I mean the font and size at which some of these terms are written. While another would be the fact that most people are just too lazy to do it. I would agree with you. If you say that some of the terms and conditions or terms of services of many casinos are written to irritate the gamblers and discourage them from reading from beginning to the end. I do not actually know why these terms of services are very lengthy. I am also a victim, I do not have that patients to read from page 1 to the end. I only look at some areas where it will affect me such as withdrawal and deposit and another area is about kyc. I am of the opinion that every gambling site terms of services should be summarised and put on the first page and yet encourage everyone to read to the end. If this happens I will simply read only the summary and proceed.
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Smartvirus
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December 20, 2023, 11:16:09 PM |
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I am of the opinion that every gambling site terms of services should be summarised and put on the first page and yet encourage everyone to read to the end. If this happens I will simply read only the summary and proceed.
A summary is what you apparently wouldn’t get and you know why? They don’t want you coming here to give excuses on how it wasn’t stated clearly. That’s why, they’ve got a whole lot on it carefully crafted and updated from time to time. For what is worth, the gambling sites have done their most in dividing the terms of service into segments. I think that has been some of the best ideas on how to follow up the bulk of terms in their service offerings. They’ve got options for; Withdrawals, Deposit, Restrictions, How to use, etc. It goes on. What you have yo do is yo search for those key places where you feel you can easily be affected and go over it. Read through and you would get an idea on if it is a site to keep up with or not. I do that often.
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Wiwo
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December 20, 2023, 11:21:19 PM |
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.
What is your take on this?
That's important because, as a gambler, you know the restrictions that an online casino has. Just in case you have a problem, you know if you have done something wrong or violated a gambling platform. That's why it becomes a problem for other gamblers that when they have a problem, they will complain in the end, and only then will they realize that the mistake or shortcoming is theirs because they did not read the TOS of the casino. The need to read thenT&C of casino is very high demanding and as such it is important to take a clear look at them before you even try to create an account on those casinos most time, the majority of those that run into one problem or the other does so at there own disobedience on none compliance with the rules that are set by the casinos as regards to in included in the terms of there services. Laziness have made many of us to lose money before and for that, we have to learn from those mistakes and avoid making such against in the future.
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Quidat
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December 20, 2023, 11:31:45 PM |
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Myself I do take my time to read all the necessary things concerning a casino gambling instructions before I can as well do anything in accordance with any platform, because when you don't take your time to read the gambling site instructions won't be able to understand the measure of the platform, so therefore for we to understand the platform very we what we needed is to take our time to go through the terms and conditions of the platform, so many people have challenges of platform due to what they have in mind is not to engage in a kyc verification whereas the terms and conditions of the platform demands kyc, so after everything they began to have issues with the site
Just need to snip out those important key notes or informations which you would really be needing to read up and not on the whole agreement. 1. KYC rules 2. Restricted countries 3. Account limitations These are the most common information that would really be changed up and this is why its not really that shocking that people do miss out because they do believe that each casino do have the same terms and conditions which is really very wrong assumption.
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TelolettOm
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December 20, 2023, 11:33:57 PM |
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That's important because, as a gambler, you know the restrictions that an online casino has. Just in case you have a problem, you know if you have done something wrong or violated a gambling platform.
You're right. It is very necessary to know the restriction, limitation, or the rules on the casino sites. So, we won't experience them during playing the games on the casino sites. If we don't read them, it is very possible to break/violate them. And we may have a serious problem in the future. How if we can't withdraw our prizes? It should be very annoying, right? That's why it becomes a problem for other gamblers that when they have a problem, they will complain in the end, and only then will they realize that the mistake or shortcoming is theirs because they did not read the TOS of the casino.
Yes. There were many cases that gamblers experienced problems because they didn't read TOS in the casinos. It should be a big lesson for everyone who wants to gamble in casino sites. Why don't we spend time to read the TOS? I think it won't spend many hours to read all the information in TOS. Just lazy people who don't want to read it.
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Hirose UK
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December 23, 2023, 04:46:40 AM |
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The need to read thenT&C of casino is very high demanding and as such it is important to take a clear look at them before you even try to create an account on those casinos most time, the majority of those that run into one problem or the other does so at there own disobedience on none compliance with the rules that are set by the casinos as regards to in included in the terms of there services.
Laziness have made many of us to lose money before and for that, we have to learn from those mistakes and avoid making such against in the future.
So that is the need and it is the obligation of all gamblers to want to read and understand all the contents in the tos because it can make them aware of what they should do and what they should avoid. This is not just about the interests of the casino but also the interests of all gamblers so that in the future they do not experience or encounter difficult problems. Isn't it ridiculous to see gamblers blaming the casino when they make mistake and get into trouble, even though at the beginning of registering they didn't want to read the text about all the rules that have been set. We as gamblers must be able to avoid all forms of action that can cause problems and we must take care of ourselves so that we can always be safe and comfortable on gambling sites. ~snip~
Just need to snip out those important key notes or informations which you would really be needing to read up and not on the whole agreement. 1. KYC rules 2. Restricted countries 3. Account limitations These are the most common information that would really be changed up and this is why its not really that shocking that people do miss out because they do believe that each casino do have the same terms and conditions which is really very wrong assumption. Yes, there are three contents of high five that every gambler really needs to understand and I will add another one which is no less important. 1. KYC rules 2. Restricted countries 3. Account limitations In these three high five contents, KYC and also the country that is restricted is problem that occurs quite often and even causes debate among fellow gamblers and the support team. What I will add is the withdrawal requirements, this point is very important to understand early because there are many cases where customers cannot withdraw certain amount because they are waiting to fulfill the bet amount first. Although there are also withdrawal requirements with KYC but the requirements with the betting amount will really be very tedious and I think many gamblers will find it objectionable.
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December 23, 2023, 05:02:47 AM |
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It's not my habit to read the terms and conditions but if it's a crypto-casino, I always look for their KYC terms. Before, when KYC was not a big deal, I rarely checked the terms of KYC on a crypto-casino but since regulators strictly mandate crypto-casinos, we should be aware of that. Good thing that there are still lots of crypto-casinos that taking KYC as not a mandatory requirement to play on the site.
I appreciate those crypto-casinos that have noticed upon registration about the mandatory KYC.
How this condition about mandatory identity verification began to irritate me. Now almost everywhere they want to implement this method. Why do they need all this? Why do you need to disclose personal data if a person is gambling? This is something unimaginable and disgusting, in my opinion. This is a violation of human rights and freedoms, and also puts people in some danger. Their data can be used by third parties at their discretion. How many times have they already warned that on the Internet you should be very careful in this matter and once again not give out personal information to just anyone? It's a pity that people are so stupid and blind. They continue to do this. It feels like the fear of any sad consequences has left them.
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December 23, 2023, 05:09:19 AM |
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I don't give time to read those, why? because terms and conditions can be changed anytime they want so even when you read those and understand, if they make changes to terms and conditions, you need to follow those things even if you like it or not.
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rodskee
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December 23, 2023, 05:42:36 AM |
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.
What is your take on this?
Nowadays , i am not visiting the terms because aside from being lengthy most of them are almost identical that gives me no time to spend my time , but what I only do is not to play in new casinos that has no reviews from bitcointalk members , meaning all the casino i played and planning to play are only those casino's that has representative in bitcointalk.org and also have been visited and tried by other senior members here so I need not to give time in terms of service but only to rely in the experiences and reviews of fellow members here, I save time and I save effort .
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Hypnosis00
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December 23, 2023, 05:50:57 AM |
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.
What is your take on this?
Well, I admit to myself that I never read all of the Terms and Conditions of the casino. I could blame myself if ever I violated their rules rather than complaining but it doesn't mean that I was new to how things work out. In fact, without reading we can also ask directly for their support about KYC requirements. Now, it was hard to find gambling sites that never asked for KYC because the majority have been doing this (probably because the government requires them to collect basic information about the registrant). Therefore, I would say that you better prepare to do that as the casino may not ask upon registration but later on, they will implement it.
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rhomelmabini
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December 23, 2023, 06:07:53 AM |
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.
What is your take on this?
As you say it's boring but you can click that little life hack "Ctrl+f" and find the word you're trying to search. There's only a little you'll get some trouble on a casino, it's either your region is limited or you have to pass that KYC because you're deemed suspicious. Just search for these and you'll life will be easier on this T&C.
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danherbias07
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December 23, 2023, 07:58:32 AM |
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I admit, no in most cases. But with lots of cases and issues where the site is issuing an account locked and banned because of violating the Terms and Conditions, I always read some parts of it. Not the whole terms but those priorities based on my view.
Here are some of the priority things that I'm looking at as Terms and Services:
- restricted countries (some gambling sites can still accessed freely and normally in restricted countries) - use of VPN or any other proxy-network program - KYC
Same. I am too lazy to read everything, especially upon reviewing another gambling site. I mean, I have the basics because I read the whole terms and agreement on the first gambling site that I visited. So, when looking up a new gambling site, I'd directly go to the country restrictions and other important stuff, although every word written there is actually important. I don't recommend this to new gamblers, it's better to read them all to know the rules, what's not to do, or about the rules. Then if they don't like the first online gambling site they could just browse the next terms and agreement of another and go directly to the important points. Gamblers are mostly impatience reading this stuff but maybe this could save us sometimes if we know the limits and restrictions. I have seen some gamblers who complained about the kind of stuff that is in the terms, we cannot win a case against them if all is written there. It just means we didn't read them at all.
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Accardo
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December 23, 2023, 08:40:01 AM |
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.
What is your take on this?
Even as I know how it's important to read the terms and conditions before registration in any platform be it casino or any other type of platform, I won't lie that am a victim not actually doing the readings of the terms and conditions. Well the main reason for this first would be the fact that the whole terms and conditions something are written to actually irritate the gambler and by this I mean the font and size at which some of these terms are written. While another would be the fact that most people are just too lazy to do it. Does it make any change, reading the terms and conditions? In most ways it does, and reading the terms of service of a casino doesn't mean that the gambler would have to do that in one day. The most important of those rules would be shared on different platforms or discussed in the chat box of the casino website. I've seen top casino terms like the prohibition of certain regions or countries being discussed on review sites. The punishable offense makes it to the discussion boards of the casino's blog or forum discussions. So, if a person is too lazy to read a few important terms of a service where he wagers money, he should endeavor to research the few rules that have got people talking. Others who read it may have done this to enlighten others who didn't. I don't see it as a difficult task to glance at the crucial aspects of a casino's rules and abide by the terms not to lose our money or account. Most people have lost their accounts and money, due to the failure to read those few words of advice on what to do in a casino. Imagine playing from a prohibited region, what could be the joy of the gambler when he wins and is being denied of his money? You'd see them, most times, running to online forums seeking help and blaming the casino for not being good to gamblers. While the problem is from the gambler because he didn't read their terms of service. Hence, it's very important to set out time and glance through it, I could remember reading them, and it wasn't a difficult task. It looks too long, but once you begin, the process gets easier and you start to enjoy the read. The writers are also marvelous writers, they make the long read memorable. I noticed that review writers mostly read those write-ups to make up a competent review about the casino. Using them for your information about a casino could be nice for non readers, but always hear from the horse's mouth.
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DabsPoorVersion
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December 23, 2023, 09:51:13 AM |
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Well, I admit to myself that I never read all of the Terms and Conditions of the casino. I could blame myself if ever I violated their rules rather than complaining but it doesn't mean that I was new to how things work out. In fact, without reading we can also ask directly for their support about KYC requirements. Now, it was hard to find gambling sites that never asked for KYC because the majority have been doing this (probably because the government requires them to collect basic information about the registrant). Therefore, I would say that you better prepare to do that as the casino may not ask upon registration but later on, they will implement it.
It is very rare for people to read the terms and conditions of a casino, I myself have never even read the terms because after I created an account all I had in mind was to play the games on the site and I have never had any problems in the games I played. Before carrying out KYC, of course we have to see whether the site will guarantee the data we have given them or whether they don't care about our data, so it would be better for us to choose a gambling site that doesn't have any problems. If you care about the security of your identity, you should at least consider reading the ToS. All the important information needed for your security was there. Reading it from start to end is not required, you should know the key points of what you are looking for in certain gambling sites. And for the above statement, asking the chat support about the KYC requirements, I'm not saying it is bad to ask them, but they have already provided the information about KYC requirements and all we need to do is read it, so why not be responsible and find the answer by exploring the website.
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