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February 18, 2024, 02:56:52 PM |
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The thing is that even betting a small amount you can win a lot, thousands of USD. And what a shame it would be if won't be able to withdraw you winnings in that case! So, I would say, no, not only you want to play with quite a lot of money you should read the terms and conditions. Save yourself from possible unpleasant situations, read them.
How your small bet turns into thousands of dollars is something that happens very rarely. To be honest, I also don't like reading very long and complicated ToS. I appreciate you wanting to read it but if it were me then I would just ask people who have played there first. I think a trusted casino must have a strong community and it will be easy for us to get the information we need. If it's thousands of dollars I think it's easy to ask because there's a chance someone else has had this happen to them. But if it's tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of dollars on very small bets, then there's a good chance you won't be able to withdraw your money if you don't actually read the ToS. But doesn't that sound like a fairy tale that is almost impossible to happen. I like your sincerity, my friend, it's not always easy or convenient to read the terms and conditions of companies, and if you see some of them, you will naturally know that they are discouraging with how long they are. So I wonder how some unlazy people will even read them not to talk of the lazy readers who are more than those who are not lazy. Personally, as well, I do not read all the terms and conditions of companies, but I make sure that I scroll to the main points where especially the terms and conditions binding the withdrawal, limits, service, KYC and many more are stated. At times too, I just ask the main questions that are causing issues between the casinos/sportsbooks and their customers from their representative to have a fast/summary knowledge of them. This has been helping me and I've never been cheated by any company till day, not to talk of violating their terms and conditions. However, I know that is good to read the terms and condition, and this is better than the strong community you mentioned as well. Community, if care is not taken could mislead you in their interpretations unless the representative of the company is always there to furnish customers with correct information. It is actually better to read and digest the terms and conditions by yourself.
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February 18, 2024, 03:06:58 PM |
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The thing is that even betting a small amount you can win a lot, thousands of USD. And what a shame it would be if won't be able to withdraw you winnings in that case! So, I would say, no, not only you want to play with quite a lot of money you should read the terms and conditions. Save yourself from possible unpleasant situations, read them.
I second this; most times, this is what usually gets most gamblers into trouble. They start with a small amount and call it nothing, and they don't care to check on what the casino has done. They continue to win small amounts, withdraw them, and go. They start enjoying the casino but still forget to check their TOS. They still continue to gamble, and this time they can make a larger deposit, and the wager amount will increase, which is also equal to the amount that could be won in the casino. The problem will all start when they want to make a withdrawal and it's declined. That's when the casino will either point out to them the rules that they don't abide by or they will have to find that out for themselves. I have seen such a similar case on the scam accusations board.
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February 18, 2024, 03:11:04 PM |
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Reading terms and conditions is good but not everyone has the patient to read the bogus write up of the casino. And some gamblers are not even interested to reward those things and all they want is to register and gamble. And when they win and about to withdraw and when the casino restrict them to with the funds then they would come and complain and creating thread for the casino head. And as the Op said, if they would have read it at the early time. They would have avoided this drama of withdrawal. Now they have to pass through stress and time. But if they can provide all the needed information to the casino then it will still be easy for them and why they are complaining if because of the time and delay.
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February 18, 2024, 05:05:54 PM |
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Reading terms and conditions is good but not everyone has the patient to read the bogus write up of the casino. And some gamblers are not even interested to reward those things and all they want is to register and gamble. And when they win and about to withdraw and when the casino restrict them to with the funds then they would come and complain and creating thread for the casino head. And as the Op said, if they would have read it at the early time. They would have avoided this drama of withdrawal. Now they have to pass through stress and time. But if they can provide all the needed information to the casino then it will still be easy for them and why they are complaining if because of the time and delay.
T&C reading isn't about endurance; it's about wallet protection. Hear the groaning. You say, "But it's so long." Well, guess? Avoiding those "bogus write-ups" is like plunging into a pool without checking for water. Want to bet? Nice, but gamble wisely. Drama follows. Someone didn't do their homework, causing complaints, threads, and claims of justice. Understand what you're doing. It's business, not friendship, in casinos. There are no grey areas. If you don't read them, who's responsible for problems? Instead than lamenting the delay, why not invest some of it upfront? Don't just win; play with eyes open. Perhaps the problem isn't the casino but your gaming style if you won't read a few paragraphs to safeguard your interests
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February 19, 2024, 12:22:00 PM |
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The thing is that even betting a small amount you can win a lot, thousands of USD. And what a shame it would be if won't be able to withdraw you winnings in that case! So, I would say, no, not only you want to play with quite a lot of money you should read the terms and conditions. Save yourself from possible unpleasant situations, read them.
I second this; most times, this is what usually gets most gamblers into trouble. They start with a small amount and call it nothing, and they don't care to check on what the casino has done. They continue to win small amounts, withdraw them, and go. They start enjoying the casino but still forget to check their TOS. They still continue to gamble, and this time they can make a larger deposit, and the wager amount will increase, which is also equal to the amount that could be won in the casino. The problem will all start when they want to make a withdrawal and it's declined. That's when the casino will either point out to them the rules that they don't abide by or they will have to find that out for themselves. I have seen such a similar case on the scam accusations board. A good example on the post above you, byusing small deposit you manage to win a lot but unfortunately with your laziness not to read the terms and conditions there are rules that you needed to understand, it cause delayed with your money to sometimes resulting to freeze your account or in a lighter consequences since you can't withdraw you'll continue to play for more and lose it back to the house. It's very important that you know and understand the rules inside by reading even a partial of the terms and condition, with that knowledge you can support your claim by pointing it to the rules itself.
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February 19, 2024, 12:37:05 PM |
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They continue to win small amounts, withdraw them, and go. They start enjoying the casino but still forget to check their TOS. They still continue to gamble, and this time they can make a larger deposit, and the wager amount will increase, which is also equal to the amount that could be won in the casino. The problem will all start when they want to make a withdrawal and it's declined. That's when the casino will either point out to them the rules that they don't abide by or they will have to find that out for themselves. I have seen such a similar case on the scam accusations board.
That's true and to be honest I'm just a gambler who is happy with smaller bets so when withdrawing money I'm never asked to complete KYC or provide my ID, but I probably know if I withdraw a large amount of money because I made a large deposit there will probably be Another new problem is that the site will definitely ask for my identity to process the withdrawal and they will definitely ask me to read the terms and conditions there, that's why it's important for gamblers who like big bets to read the site's terms and conditions or rules before doing so. In fact, almost all sites don't differ much in terms and conditions, so just read what's important, if you like playing on a new site, you should just try it out with a little more money, but if you want to play seriously on one of the sites and the place makes you more comfortable, you should read all the terms and conditions or existing regulations so that there are no misunderstandings that end up accusing the casino of committing fraud and cheating, even though the user has not read the rules or terms and conditions on their site. it is important to ,read them and avoid any problems with the casino as much as possible.
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February 19, 2024, 12:50:22 PM |
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It's very important that you know and understand the rules inside by reading even a partial of the terms and condition, with that knowledge you can support your claim by pointing it to the rules itself.
Even with the partial, I don't think that the most of us takes time into reading those. But I agree that it's important to at least get to see and read them. So whenever some problems come up then all we have to do is to understand them if some things have happened and we don't like it. We just have to be familiarized with most rules in the casino we play.
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February 22, 2024, 07:28:03 PM |
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Reading terms and conditions is good but not everyone has the patient to read the bogus write up of the casino. And some gamblers are not even interested to reward those things and all they want is to register and gamble. And when they win and about to withdraw and when the casino restrict them to with the funds then they would come and complain and creating thread for the casino head. And as the Op said, if they would have read it at the early time. They would have avoided this drama of withdrawal. Now they have to pass through stress and time. But if they can provide all the needed information to the casino then it will still be easy for them and why they are complaining if because of the time and delay.
Reading a TOS is boring, we all know that, but if a person is going to deposit money at a website and they expect to make a great deal of money with it then at minimum they should read the TOS to know what they can expect out of the casino, and it can be said that we need to go even further than that and check the reputation of a casino and many other important factors, like the speed of withdrawals and whether you need to identify yourself to make a withdrawal.
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February 22, 2024, 07:39:57 PM |
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Reading terms and conditions is good but not everyone has the patient to read the bogus write up of the casino. And some gamblers are not even interested to reward those things and all they want is to register and gamble. And when they win and about to withdraw and when the casino restrict them to with the funds then they would come and complain and creating thread for the casino head. And as the Op said, if they would have read it at the early time. They would have avoided this drama of withdrawal. Now they have to pass through stress and time. But if they can provide all the needed information to the casino then it will still be easy for them and why they are complaining if because of the time and delay.
Reading a TOS is boring, we all know that, but if a person is going to deposit money at a website and they expect to make a great deal of money with it then at minimum they should read the TOS to know what they can expect out of the casino, and it can be said that we need to go even further than that and check the reputation of a casino and many other important factors, like the speed of withdrawals and whether you need to identify yourself to make a withdrawal. We are all guilty with this on which it is really true that most of us really dont have the time nor having the interest on reading up sites terms and conditions until issues would really be faced on. This is the only time we would really be checking out with those terms and conditions on the time that we are facing some issues on which we should have done this earlier. Its not really that hard to follow up these basics but due to laziness and tiring thing then i couldnt blame on why majority of gamblers do really experience out the same thing. Even myself is really that guilty with this on which im not really that a fan when it comes to reading but since its needed then it wouldnt be bad on reading up the keypoints.
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February 23, 2024, 04:31:01 PM |
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Reading terms and conditions is good but not everyone has the patient to read the bogus write up of the casino. And some gamblers are not even interested to reward those things and all they want is to register and gamble. And when they win and about to withdraw and when the casino restrict them to with the funds then they would come and complain and creating thread for the casino head. And as the Op said, if they would have read it at the early time. They would have avoided this drama of withdrawal. Now they have to pass through stress and time. But if they can provide all the needed information to the casino then it will still be easy for them and why they are complaining if because of the time and delay.
Reading a TOS is boring, we all know that, but if a person is going to deposit money at a website and they expect to make a great deal of money with it then at minimum they should read the TOS to know what they can expect out of the casino, and it can be said that we need to go even further than that and check the reputation of a casino and many other important factors, like the speed of withdrawals and whether you need to identify yourself to make a withdrawal. Before I didn't see this as a good option, because I was very lazy, and because the Tos was something that made me waste time, that's how I saw it, because I wanted my registration to be quick and if I started reading so much to That was wasting time, but now I know the things I have seen in the problems that have arisen, given that there are many inconveniences with withdrawals, with KYC requirements, with betting requirements, because one has to take the time to read them, in addition I consider that money is what we must take great care of, and since we are going to deposit money, it is something that must make us alert. We in the casino must always be very careful, not allowing things to get out of hand, because when we have to control our money, emotions also get out of control and make us commit financial follies, which We don't want to make the most common mistakes we make, so those types of things are what we should avoid, we shouldn't be easy targets to lose. Therefore, it is easier to control the money for the casino than the emotions, and since if we have the casino rules that they promote we read, we can defend ourselves against any situation that the casino presents to us and that seems unfair to us, in addition, all the knows about laws, is a person who covers his back in any situation, not only in casinos, in the place where he lives, to defend himself against injustice, so I would always recommend reading before knowing what we are going to play, because In fact, what we will risk is our money, and above all, read very carefully the requirements that they require to be able to withdraw if we win, because sometimes many inconveniences arise and that causes inconvenience.
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The thing is that even betting a small amount you can win a lot, thousands of USD. And what a shame it would be if won't be able to withdraw you winnings in that case! So, I would say, no, not only you want to play with quite a lot of money you should read the terms and conditions. Save yourself from possible unpleasant situations, read them.
How your small bet turns into thousands of dollars is something that happens very rarely. To be honest, I also don't like reading very long and complicated ToS. I appreciate you wanting to read it but if it were me then I would just ask people who have played there first. I think a trusted casino must have a strong community and it will be easy for us to get the information we need. If it's thousands of dollars I think it's easy to ask because there's a chance someone else has had this happen to them. But if it's tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of dollars on very small bets, then there's a good chance you won't be able to withdraw your money if you don't actually read the ToS. But doesn't that sound like a fairy tale that is almost impossible to happen.Indeed, it does. But what we are doing when playing slots is we dream about the impossible. We don't expect it exactly, but somewhere in the corner of our mind we always remember that it can happen. The probability is very low, but it's never zero. And if it happens and you can't withdraw your winnings because you didn't read the ToS, well, everyone can imagine how it would feel.
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Why not read ToS just one, from the beginning to an end. Some clause can be skipped, as they give descriptions of a terms. As I think all the casinos have more or less same ToS, and you have read one ToS, you can easily navigate in other and find changes or special rules. There is no need to read every ToS, but to be familiar with what it is, is a must. Not reading diagonally and claim that you «know ToS», but to read once and understand what it is. That would be my advice. Reading rules helps a lot in adult life ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 25, 2024, 09:52:21 AM |
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We can't be hooping from one casino to another, we take out time to choose the necessary casino that's our favorite, it entangle all our actions and operation in the space of gambling. We register on casinos that are regarded to satisfy our goals. However there are some extents of these terms and conditions that doesn't follow to what we expects to see. We carefully anticipate with these casinos because any slight mistakes comes with extra costs. Ofcourse nobody will be happy to see his portfolio empty due to the immense heavy losses experience.
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February 25, 2024, 03:22:28 PM |
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We can't be hooping from one casino to another, we take out time to choose the necessary casino that's our favorite, it entangle all our actions and operation in the space of gambling. We register on casinos that are regarded to satisfy our goals. However there are some extents of these terms and conditions that doesn't follow to what we expects to see. We carefully anticipate with these casinos because any slight mistakes comes with extra costs. Ofcourse nobody will be happy to see his portfolio empty due to the immense heavy losses experience.
If you can read the terms and conditions before you use one casino and the other casinos, you will not have a problem because you knows what is the rules on every casino. We chooses the right casino by research and not just hooping from one casino to another because that will gives risks to us, especially if we don't knows what is the rules on each casinos. Before we register on one casino, we must make sure to understand their terms and conditions so we don't have to get a problems. We can anticipate the bad things that many gamblers often face because we always make sure everything before we decide. It's our prevention to choose the right casino for us and as long as we can be careful, we will be fine.
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February 25, 2024, 04:21:40 PM |
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Reading terms and conditions is good but not everyone has the patient to read the bogus write up of the casino. And some gamblers are not even interested to reward those things and all they want is to register and gamble. And when they win and about to withdraw and when the casino restrict them to with the funds then they would come and complain and creating thread for the casino head. And as the Op said, if they would have read it at the early time. They would have avoided this drama of withdrawal. Now they have to pass through stress and time. But if they can provide all the needed information to the casino then it will still be easy for them and why they are complaining if because of the time and delay.
Reading a TOS is boring, we all know that, but if a person is going to deposit money at a website and they expect to make a great deal of money with it then at minimum they should read the TOS to know what they can expect out of the casino, and it can be said that we need to go even further than that and check the reputation of a casino and many other important factors, like the speed of withdrawals and whether you need to identify yourself to make a withdrawal. Before I didn't see this as a good option, because I was very lazy, and because the Tos was something that made me waste time, that's how I saw it, because I wanted my registration to be quick and if I started reading so much to That was wasting time, but now I know the things I have seen in the problems that have arisen, given that there are many inconveniences with withdrawals, with KYC requirements, with betting requirements, because one has to take the time to read them, in addition I consider that money is what we must take great care of, and since we are going to deposit money, it is something that must make us alert. We in the casino must always be very careful, not allowing things to get out of hand, because when we have to control our money, emotions also get out of control and make us commit financial follies, which We don't want to make the most common mistakes we make, so those types of things are what we should avoid, we shouldn't be easy targets to lose. Therefore, it is easier to control the money for the casino than the emotions, and since if we have the casino rules that they promote we read, we can defend ourselves against any situation that the casino presents to us and that seems unfair to us, in addition, all the knows about laws, is a person who covers his back in any situation, not only in casinos, in the place where he lives, to defend himself against injustice, so I would always recommend reading before knowing what we are going to play, because In fact, what we will risk is our money, and above all, read very carefully the requirements that they require to be able to withdraw if we win, because sometimes many inconveniences arise and that causes inconvenience. You're late to the party, but better late than never. Ignoring TOS in online gambling is like handing over your wallet and saying, "Take what you want." It's not just about the money; it's about your rights. These casinos, they're not your friends. They're businesses, and their TOS is their playbook Those withdrawal headaches, KYC hiccups, and betting hoops? They're all in there, in the TOS. You skip that, you're playing their game, not yours. This isn't just about being careful; it's about being smart. Arm yourself with knowledge, and you turn the tables. Don't just play the game; know the game. That's how you win, both in the casino and in life
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February 25, 2024, 04:42:56 PM |
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There is no casino platform where the terms and conditions are straightforward. Every casino extends the terms and conditions in such a way that it is difficult for a gambler to grab all the rules and regulations. I have yet to see any gambler who registers on the site after understanding the terms and conditions very well. Gamblers have a very common thought that gambling platforms must not run away with their wealth. Moreover, they give the highest priority to gambling. Terms and conditions are only a waste of time for them. Although those conditions should be worn by everyone but not everyone is willing to read them.
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February 27, 2024, 11:54:55 PM |
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That's right, you're absolutely right, we as thinking people must see things as they are, I don't deny, I know that many times I registered in a casino without even wanting to read a letter from the Tos, I just Accepted it and that's it, it was More than anything a pro-laziness issue, but nothing was like that, but considering the amount of things that have been Developed today , the problems that these dreams entail can be avoided as much as possible, because I am one of those who think that if I comply with the laws Well, we can defend ourselves well, people have their own laws, if we read them we will know or have an idea of what we are Getting into, there will be no more things to do, simply the things we do we have to be very Careful , so Therefore, when we are seeing that this could be possible and defend ourselves in a way, it is Beneficial for us. In this case, we will see a large number of people who are complaining to casinos for something they have done, for something they have decided to do, and sometimes the people or the players are right, but the sole fact of not having read the Chain Codes that Things can be very strange, different and can turn out badly, in this order of ideas I can say that Coughs are our weapon to deal with any eventuality. This is because you have everything right, it is for intelligent people, and this is obvious, in a casino what we put is money, it is not just anything, we must know very well what we are getting into and this can cause things to change. Whether they are good or bad, then it doesn't hurt to take about 10 minutes to read the entire Tos, there is always something that we can find that we like or don't like, sometimes in the Tos there are clauses for bonuses, which sometimes Sometimes when they release the bonuses and concross they don't say them, but if they say them in general, these types of things can sometimes also cause problems and all for not reading.
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February 27, 2024, 11:57:58 PM |
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There is no casino platform where the terms and conditions are straightforward. Every casino extends the terms and conditions in such a way that it is difficult for a gambler to grab all the rules and regulations. I have yet to see any gambler who registers on the site after understanding the terms and conditions very well. Gamblers have a very common thought that gambling platforms must not run away with their wealth. Moreover, they give the highest priority to gambling. Terms and conditions are only a waste of time for them. Although those conditions should be worn by everyone but not everyone is willing to read them.
Extension or not really been that stated or mentioned? Then you are basically dealing up with a shady casino if they would really be having this kind of behavior on which tending to changed up those things on the time that there would really be some issues that been faced on. Somewhat you do have that point on which they could really be anytime having that kind of changes on which we dont really be able to see whether its been written earlier or its been changed up immediately and there's no way on proving it out and this is why when it comes on presenting evidences then that gambler wont really be able to do something just because they cant be able to justify on what they have noticed out.
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There is no casino platform where the terms and conditions are straightforward. Every casino extends the terms and conditions in such a way that it is difficult for a gambler to grab all the rules and regulations. I have yet to see any gambler who registers on the site after understanding the terms and conditions very well. Gamblers have a very common thought that gambling platforms must not run away with their wealth. Moreover, they give the highest priority to gambling. Terms and conditions are only a waste of time for them. Although those conditions should be worn by everyone but not everyone is willing to read them.
The terms and conditions of exchange places may be different, but they all want to make the exchange stronger and not make losses in gambling places, so as you mentioned, people who use gambling sites try as much as possible not to make themselves rich and always make deposits. to a gambling place because it can be set in a script that makes him lose or win when gambling. What is safer is gambling in sports because it cannot be regulated by a system, it all depends on the conditions of the game when on the field.
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February 29, 2024, 07:32:46 PM |
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There is no casino platform where the terms and conditions are straightforward. Every casino extends the terms and conditions in such a way that it is difficult for a gambler to grab all the rules and regulations. I have yet to see any gambler who registers on the site after understanding the terms and conditions very well. Gamblers have a very common thought that gambling platforms must not run away with their wealth. Moreover, they give the highest priority to gambling. Terms and conditions are only a waste of time for them. Although those conditions should be worn by everyone but not everyone is willing to read them.
The TOS may be written in a roundabout language, but that is because very often lawyers are in charge of writing that document so the casino faces no losses in the case one of the circumstances enumerated there actually happen, now this may seem unfair as the player may not understand fully what they are signing up themselves for, but you can easily ask for the customer support of that particular casino about a specific detail that you may not understand about it, and I am sure they will glad to explain it in simpler terms.
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