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December 19, 2023, 02:27:44 PM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
No experience so far or at least not to my knowledge. I also prefer betting on top leagues like most members. I have heard of match fixing accusations from local sport leagues but it's usually the accuser's words against the accused. No real evidence to support it so I cannot really call the game as rigged. There are bettors that are just sore losers so can't take them seriously.

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December 19, 2023, 03:15:30 PM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
No experience so far or at least not to my knowledge. I also prefer betting on top leagues like most members. I have heard of match fixing accusations from local sport leagues but it's usually the accuser's words against the accused. No real evidence to support it so I cannot really call the game as rigged. There are bettors that are just sore losers so can't take them seriously.
If you watch the news, maybe you have heard that there are several matches where match fixing is suspected, this also happens in several other European small leagues or even in Asia, there are several former football players in my country and he is telling the truth about match fixing and he one of the players who was bribed with money by football officials at that time to play badly and lose in a final match.

I used to think like you that it couldn't possibly happen and thought people were accusing of match fixing but after seeing statements from former football players who had been involved I thought that it seemed like not only in my country but the football mafia would always be out there playing. in minor league leagues to manipulate bets also in gambling and more.

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December 19, 2023, 03:31:04 PM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
In my experience fixing is way more common when it comes to district leagues, college leagues and small-cap games. Not the big ones that get broadcasted all over the globe to a huge audience. These small scale games are the bread and butter for many local bookies and fixers. They will make money from them and not do any other job at all - its the primary source of earning among other strongarming jobs.

Hence if you are betting on the big games, dont fuss about fixing much, keep your mind at ease there.

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December 19, 2023, 03:38:39 PM
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The issue of match fixing is a bit of a concern for me because it is related to the manipulation of match results which is clearly detrimental to gamblers. However, because I bet on a big league which clearly maintains its credibility, transparency and honesty, I'm not too worried that the league will be related to this match fixing. Even though the risk is still there, I think it is very small and it is not something to worry about.
If we are not aware of third party arrangements for matches, betting seems to be a long-term plan for players as they can at least have a sense of fairness but the game just leaks a bit of manipulation, the level of vigilance and betting restrictions also becomes low and most major tournaments will hide all these problems. Besides, players with high salaries almost have extremely high pride, they do not like a match where the opponent becomes an actor, they need a prestigious victory, instead of meaningless victory and lack of spiritual respect

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December 19, 2023, 03:39:14 PM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
In my experience fixing is way more common when it comes to district leagues, college leagues and small-cap games. Not the big ones that get broadcasted all over the globe to a huge audience. These small scale games are the bread and butter for many local bookies and fixers. They will make money from them and not do any other job at all - its the primary source of earning among other strongarming jobs.

Hence if you are betting on the big games, dont fuss about fixing much, keep your mind at ease there.

That's the reason why small leagues has a very small limit because of this possible fixed games. For major leagues, you can bet as much as you want because bookies are willing to accept bets since they know it will attract actions on both sides. The thing is, if in a small league, you know what team will win because you have an inside information about the fix game, bookies are gonna lose a lot of money, so limiting it is just their way to preven that from happening.

It makes sense, right? Because if they don't believe that fixed game is happening, the limitation should be remove since what they want in the first place is to gain more bettors so they could increase the wagers they'll be receiving.

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December 19, 2023, 03:54:21 PM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
No experience so far or at least not to my knowledge. I also prefer betting on top leagues like most members. I have heard of match fixing accusations from local sport leagues but it's usually the accuser's words against the accused. No real evidence to support it so I cannot really call the game as rigged. There are bettors that are just sore losers so can't take them seriously.
If you watch the news, maybe you have heard that there are several matches where match fixing is suspected, this also happens in several other European small leagues or even in Asia, there are several former football players in my country and he is telling the truth about match fixing and he one of the players who was bribed with money by football officials at that time to play badly and lose in a final match.

I used to think like you that it couldn't possibly happen and thought people were accusing of match fixing but after seeing statements from former football players who had been involved I thought that it seemed like not only in my country but the football mafia would always be out there playing. in minor league leagues to manipulate bets also in gambling and more.
I know and of course I believe in things like this because in some countries with not too much competition there can be cases of bribery or match fixing that are motivated by officials or certain people with the sole aim of gaining personal gain.
Usually it is betting, many unexpected things happen because of the actions of people who have enormous wealth who bet and they are willing to spend certain amount of money to make bribes and be able to win their bets.
In Asian football, there have been many similar cases, but what always happens more often is referees who are unfair because they side with one team.
A football match that experiences something like this will be very disadvantaged and of course it will give rise to bad thoughts or conversations among football fans, they will say that football has become place of capitalism and is really unclean.

I said something similar to several football fans in the past but they didn't believe it because they thought every team wanted to win and every team wanted to win the title.
But I think otherwise because money is very valuable and money can change everything from manipulation to bribes that are carried out to favor one party.
And we will find similar cases more often in small leagues or competitions in each country.

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December 19, 2023, 06:21:08 PM
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I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

It is an interesting question and I think the real answer can only be given by someone who has been involved with that shit. But from what I have read in the past about this, I think bookmakers are quite well on top of things and it isn't easy to place a bet for someone to make millions (and perhaps even share it with other people as you said). You have all these camera angles, you have scripted referee talk in some leagues I believe. You have all the rules, like how much scope is there left for a referee or a player to fix a match with an action that the whole world can watch on repeat from 10 angles? I still don't want to come across as naive and there is probably a lot of stuff going on, but with technology becoming so much better, I think it's tough to fix a match without anyone noticing. And I think that bookmakers are quite careful when they notice someone trying to bet a million on the next throw in. I wouldn't say it is not a thing anymore, but I believe it is quite hard to pull off.

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December 19, 2023, 06:39:43 PM
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It really doesn't , because it's so few and far between that we actually ever hear of matches being fixed.  Now don't get me wrong, I damn well know that they do..but they don't as often as I think people think they do. 

Has anyone seen all the parody commercial the NFL (US football) has been putting out, mainly before the season, where they are all mocking the fact that so many say the league is "scripted".  It's pretty funny, pointing out the absurdity.

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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
No experience so far or at least not to my knowledge. I also prefer betting on top leagues like most members. I have heard of match fixing accusations from local sport leagues but it's usually the accuser's words against the accused. No real evidence to support it so I cannot really call the game as rigged. There are bettors that are just sore losers so can't take them seriously.

You're right, any reputable gambling sport should not engage on match fixing in other for them to gain their spectators trust, those that do this at the local level may not be that observant about it to that extent by knowing if the people really want that or not, but i see no gain in fixing a match than where manipulations is an order of the day, people may not want to for such sports to gamble because they know that it's been fixed by the organizers.

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December 20, 2023, 02:06:52 AM
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The issue of match fixing is a bit of a concern for me because it is related to the manipulation of match results which is clearly detrimental to gamblers. However, because I bet on a big league which clearly maintains its credibility, transparency and honesty, I'm not too worried that the league will be related to this match fixing. Even though the risk is still there, I think it is very small and it is not something to worry about.
Yes, most gamblers who bet on sports games definitely prefer to bet on big leagues because there is less to manipulation, apart from that, big league leagues maintain their reputation. I myself also prefer to bet on big leagues such as the European League, Champions League, La Liga, League 1 , Italian League, Bundesliga and Premier League it is very unlikely that they will do this for personal gain because the income from these leagues is of course bigger and the points for each club are very important.

This is different from local leagues which can be manipulated and the risk of losing is greater, so for those of us who prioritize profit and don't want to experience the risk of match fixing, it is better to bet on big league leagues, but you also have to be able to use high skills to analyze big league predictions. It's not easy, but it's more difficult than predicting local leagues which have been arranged in such a way by the bookies.

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December 21, 2023, 09:09:23 PM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
No experience so far or at least not to my knowledge. I also prefer betting on top leagues like most members. I have heard of match fixing accusations from local sport leagues but it's usually the accuser's words against the accused. No real evidence to support it so I cannot really call the game as rigged. There are bettors that are just sore losers so can't take them seriously.

You're right, any reputable gambling sport should not engage on match fixing in other for them to gain their spectators trust, those that do this at the local level may not be that observant about it to that extent by knowing if the people really want that or not, but i see no gain in fixing a match than where manipulations is an order of the day, people may not want to for such sports to gamble because they know that it's been fixed by the organizers.

It is not about the reputation of a specific sport. I think most sports really have a good reputation in general, but when you have got some people who want to take advantage of an offer from the mafia or something, it can be bad for the sport of course.

I remember that Djokovic said he was approached a couple of times with high offers to fix some tennis matches. That is actually one reason why I think players or sports professionals should earn enough to get well along because that makes them less prone to saying yes to illegal stuff like that.

But there is also force from these organizations that try to bribe referees or players. Imagine players or referees get threatened by some dangerous people. There isn't much they can do against it.

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December 21, 2023, 09:20:28 PM
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The issue of match fixing is a bit of a concern for me because it is related to the manipulation of match results which is clearly detrimental to gamblers. However, because I bet on a big league which clearly maintains its credibility, transparency and honesty, I'm not too worried that the league will be related to this match fixing. Even though the risk is still there, I think it is very small and it is not something to worry about.

I too don’t think popular big leagues would want to dip their hands into such shenanigans. They know they can’t risk their reputation they’ve got over things like this. I don’t see the fixed games going on in the premier league or in the champions league. They’ve got everything to lose if they manipulate the outcomes of matches.

Perhaps in little leagues that isn’t popular or known, things like this could very well be going on unknown to people. Fixed games should be of a concern to every sport enthusiast and not just people who gamble. It literally takes away the competitive spirit.
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You're right, any reputable gambling sport should not engage on match fixing in other for them to gain their spectators trust, those that do this at the local level may not be that observant about it to that extent by knowing if the people really want that or not, but i see no gain in fixing a match than where manipulations is an order of the day, people may not want to for such sports to gamble because they know that it's been fixed by the organizers.

Let me correct you, match fixing had nothing to do with the spectators, its all about making more money at a little space of time, the bigger boys meets with the clubs leaders of little clubs and offers them good money that they only dream of making, being poor, they oblige and fix the matches to their sponsors advantage, the match plays and these big gamblers smash the bookies and make huge compensation for themselves, the club owners and  those involved also makes it big too from the bookies and they're satisfied. The spectators of such teams aren't that much influential people that can raise dust, that's why they don't bother about them while fixing matches. Their key aim is to  make a lot of money.

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Let me correct you, match fixing had nothing to do with the spectators, its all about making more money at a little space of time, the bigger boys meets with the clubs leaders of little clubs and offers them good money that they only dream of making, being poor, they oblige and fix the matches to their sponsors advantage, the match plays and these big gamblers smash the bookies and make huge compensation for themselves, the club owners and  those involved also makes it big too from the bookies and they're satisfied. The spectators of such teams aren't that much influential people that can raise dust, that's why they don't bother about them while fixing matches. Their key aim is to  make a lot of money.

It is practically difficult to prove whether a particular match is fixing or not. Yes, you can see individual signs, but the overall picture is often blurred. And if you bought the result of a match, it does not mean that someone has made a deal with someone. It is often a fraud
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It does but at the same time I think for different reasons from other gamblers. Other people see match fixing as a negative thing since it makes them lose bets that they otherwise would've won but personally, I'm just more concerned about the integrity of the game. When you deliberately tip the scales in your favor, especially in sports like football or basketball, you're literally tarnishing the main purpose as to why these games are played—to show prowess and to find out who's the greatest athlete for that particular sport.

It ruins the vibe and takes the fun out of playing and watching games like these. Can you imagine how boring it would be if everything you've been watching on the TV, especially reality shows and game shows for that matter, are nothing but staged and scripted? It makes you lose interest in that game, and eventually not only you would feel that way but everyone else who's a fan of that particular show, which leads to massive decline and eventually, the death of the franchise.

I've seen leagues fail because of corruption within their respective systems, so it's no surprise that people will be so concerned about match fixing.

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December 22, 2023, 08:11:55 AM
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I too don’t think popular big leagues would want to dip their hands into such shenanigans.

If big leagues try to fix matches, then they are trying to cause problems for themselves. I have been hearing about match fixing for a long time, but I haven’t experienced any match fixing before, or maybe it has been done before and I didn’t notice it. But I think it’s done in small local leagues that don’t get much attention, it won’t even be noticed because people are not following the league. Even if it’s done in some small leagues, they are supposed to be punished when caught because it doesn’t make any sense to me, they are doing it for their own selfish interests, which is not supposed to be like that, that’s purely cheating.

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December 22, 2023, 11:10:45 AM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
No experience so far or at least not to my knowledge. I also prefer betting on top leagues like most members. I have heard of match fixing accusations from local sport leagues but it's usually the accuser's words against the accused. No real evidence to support it so I cannot really call the game as rigged. There are bettors that are just sore losers so can't take them seriously.
Is this happening in this current dispensation? If it is, then it can't be in the top leagues, or better still, they must be very secretive in doing it. As we all know, what we actually see might not be what actually happened, but this is not fair if it truly happens, and it is a serious offence if caught at the same time. Mind you, allegations or accusations are still not facts, I heard of such too, but these days, you can't because of an allegation or accusation sanction teams anyhow, there must be proof, a valid one for that matter, which is what I believe is always difficult to puzzle out. As it is now, I would like to take my mind off this kind of allegations, whether it happens or not, as long as they do not deprive me of the entire tourney, there is nothing concerning me.

It will be left to how the involved teams could play and display their talent to know whether they are worth the trophy or not. There are many benefits of match-fixing though which might attract some parties to get involved in it. But this can't be in major matches where every team is getting ready for the celebration and the glory of lifting the cup, for real. And if they would ever comprise for other teams, there must be a very huge sum of money that must be paid for that purpose by the parties involved.

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December 22, 2023, 11:11:42 AM
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I too don’t think popular big leagues would want to dip their hands into such shenanigans.
If big leagues try to fix matches, then they are trying to cause problems for themselves. I have been hearing about match fixing for a long time, but I haven’t experienced any match fixing before, or maybe it has been done before and I didn’t notice it. But I think it’s done in small local leagues that don’t get much attention, it won’t even be noticed because people are not following the league. Even if it’s done in some small leagues, they are supposed to be punished when caught because it doesn’t make any sense to me, they are doing it for their own selfish interests, which is not supposed to be like that, that’s purely cheating.
But we will also never know whether fixed matches exist or are just based on the stories people tell about them. But what you said about it happening in small local leagues could be happening because of a lack of supervision from the center, so people who influence some areas can use their power to pressure the people behind the game.

Anything is possible, especially in sports, because various interests want their favorite team to win. We as spectators also don't feel it directly. But we can be suspicious about the existence of fixed matches in several leagues, especially if there is something clearly visible from several matches that a particular team is trying to win. That will not escape the observation of the commentators and people who watch the match, but we cannot do anything because the influence of people who do illegal things is very strong.

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December 22, 2023, 11:18:24 AM
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Often, when I lose, I think about in-house games being fixed. It might sound funny, because those who lose always find excuses and blame others, but sometimes it is hard to believe in getting 1.00 three times in a row in limbo or crash. I mean the game can throw something between 1.00 to 9999, but the variability that 1.00 comes three times in a row is so low, it is even lower than getting 9999, yet still I have never seen 9999, but got 1.00 1.00 1.00 or 1.00 1.00 several times in one week already.

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December 23, 2023, 03:38:13 AM
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I too don’t think popular big leagues would want to dip their hands into such shenanigans.

If big leagues try to fix matches, then they are trying to cause problems for themselves. I have been hearing about match fixing for a long time, but I haven’t experienced any match fixing before, or maybe it has been done before and I didn’t notice it. But I think it’s done in small local leagues that don’t get much attention, it won’t even be noticed because people are not following the league. Even if it’s done in some small leagues, they are supposed to be punished when caught because it doesn’t make any sense to me, they are doing it for their own selfish interests, which is not supposed to be like that, that’s purely cheating.
The issue is that match fixing is very difficult to prove, as no one that is part of it wants to get the secret out as they will incriminate themselves and get in trouble.

And even the sport federations want to know nothing about it, because if a scandal like that was revealed then the fans will lose confidence on the sport and they may decide to not watch it anymore, so even those that have nothing to do with it but that benefit from the league in question do not want to even investigate, as they could shoot themselves on their foot if they do so.

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